# uh oh. another nail. sorry guys.

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#### InFlatEarth

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##### Re: uh oh. another nail. sorry guys.
« Reply #480 on: January 31, 2018, 12:16:50 PM »
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The rocket gases are however exerting pressure on the combustion chamber, on every side except the nozzle.  Due to conservation of momentum, the exiting gas will push on the rocket and move it away from the nozzle.

What is the mass of a satellite, 500 kg?
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/satellite_mass_categories.html

What is the speed of the satellite that is in orbit? 28,000 km/hr

What is the momentum of the satellite? Mass * Velocity

28,000 km/hr = 7,777.78 m/s

Momentum = 7,777.78 m/s * 500 kg = 3,888,890 kg * m /s

OK, show me how much "propellant is needed to change the direction of the satellite

To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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#### sokarul

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« Reply #481 on: January 31, 2018, 12:30:46 PM »
And I have already explained that without friction, their can't be any movement.

The wheels have friction with the ground and thus creating slip and wheel turning and thus motion
Explain where the atmosphere comes into play in the video.
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#### ItsRoundIPromise

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« Reply #482 on: January 31, 2018, 12:31:03 PM »
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The rocket gases are however exerting pressure on the combustion chamber, on every side except the nozzle.  Due to conservation of momentum, the exiting gas will push on the rocket and move it away from the nozzle.

What is the mass of a satellite, 500 kg?
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/satellite_mass_categories.html

What is the speed of the satellite that is in orbit? 28,000 km/hr

What is the momentum of the satellite? Mass * Velocity

28,000 km/hr = 7,777.78 m/s

Momentum = 7,777.78 m/s * 500 kg = 3,888,890 kg * m /s

OK, show me how much "propellant is needed to change the direction of the satellite
Before I do a whole lot of calculations for you, do you understand that satellites don't "change direction" in the gross manner I'm afraid you're thinking?  They make small orbital corrections that involve mostly accelerating to a higher orbit, but can sometimes decelerate to a lower orbit, or make minor adjustments to change orbital inclination.  As long as you understand that's the nature of actual orbital maneuvers I will grind out the numbers for you.

If you think there are satellites that are in east to west orbits that can just be changed direction so they are in west to east orbits then I'm not going to waste my time with you.

#### InFlatEarth

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« Reply #483 on: January 31, 2018, 12:39:35 PM »
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The rocket gases are however exerting pressure on the combustion chamber, on every side except the nozzle.  Due to conservation of momentum, the exiting gas will push on the rocket and move it away from the nozzle.

What is the mass of a satellite, 500 kg?
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/satellite_mass_categories.html

What is the speed of the satellite that is in orbit? 28,000 km/hr

What is the momentum of the satellite? Mass * Velocity

28,000 km/hr = 7,777.78 m/s

Momentum = 7,777.78 m/s * 500 kg = 3,888,890 kg * m /s

OK, show me how much "propellant is needed to change the direction of the satellite
Before I do a whole lot of calculations for you, do you understand that satellites don't "change direction" in the gross manner I'm afraid you're thinking?  They make small orbital corrections that involve mostly accelerating to a higher orbit, but can sometimes decelerate to a lower orbit, or make minor adjustments to change orbital inclination.  As long as you understand that's the nature of actual orbital maneuvers I will grind out the numbers for you.

If you think there are satellites that are in east to west orbits that can just be changed direction so they are in west to east orbits then I'm not going to waste my time with you.

Conservation of momentum. Do I need to say anything more?

By the way, in the x,y,z direction

3,888,890 kg * m /s
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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« Reply #484 on: January 31, 2018, 12:59:40 PM »
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The rocket gases are however exerting pressure on the combustion chamber, on every side except the nozzle.  Due to conservation of momentum, the exiting gas will push on the rocket and move it away from the nozzle.

What is the mass of a satellite, 500 kg?
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/satellite_mass_categories.html

What is the speed of the satellite that is in orbit? 28,000 km/hr

What is the momentum of the satellite? Mass * Velocity

28,000 km/hr = 7,777.78 m/s

Momentum = 7,777.78 m/s * 500 kg = 3,888,890 kg * m /s

OK, show me how much "propellant is needed to change the direction of the satellite
Before I do a whole lot of calculations for you, do you understand that satellites don't "change direction" in the gross manner I'm afraid you're thinking?  They make small orbital corrections that involve mostly accelerating to a higher orbit, but can sometimes decelerate to a lower orbit, or make minor adjustments to change orbital inclination.  As long as you understand that's the nature of actual orbital maneuvers I will grind out the numbers for you.

If you think there are satellites that are in east to west orbits that can just be changed direction so they are in west to east orbits then I'm not going to waste my time with you.

Conservation of momentum. Do I need to say anything more?

By the way, in the x,y,z direction

3,888,890 kg * m /s
I'm still waiting for you to explain the force that pushes the skateboard back when you throw the ball.

#### InFlatEarth

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« Reply #485 on: February 01, 2018, 05:33:25 AM »

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74102.0
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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« Reply #486 on: February 01, 2018, 05:55:28 AM »

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74102.0
Ok, but what makes the skateboard move when you throw the ball?

#### InFlatEarth

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« Reply #487 on: February 01, 2018, 06:11:52 AM »

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74102.0
Ok, but what makes the skateboard move when you throw the ball?

Aether
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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« Reply #488 on: February 01, 2018, 06:25:56 AM »

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74102.0
Ok, but what makes the skateboard move when you throw the ball?

Aether
How does that work?

#### sokarul

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« Reply #489 on: February 01, 2018, 07:09:15 AM »

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74102.0
Ok, but what makes the skateboard move when you throw the ball?

Aether
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#### rabinoz

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##### Re: uh oh. another nail. sorry guys.
« Reply #490 on: February 01, 2018, 03:21:35 PM »

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74102.0
Ok, but what makes the skateboard move when you throw the ball?

Aether
And since you claim that space is filled by aether, I guess that you are finally admitting that rockets  do work in space  , though for the wrong reason.

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#### Papa Legba

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« Reply #491 on: February 02, 2018, 11:03:47 AM »
Back to sanity...

Please confirm you still think your following claim is a sane and logical statement, Mr the Rabbibot...

Cos I think it's the most mental thing anyone on this site has ever said.

Quote from: Papa Legba
Here's another good example of its incompetence:
Seems the rabbibot now states that even though gravity causes a downwards force it is not forcing things downwards...
That's right, Mr Voodoo Priest, that is what I said!
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID ALRIGHT!
Yup, that's what I said! gravity might be causing a downwards force on you, but it is not forcing you down.

THAT'S STILL WHAT HE SAID!
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#### rvlvr

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« Reply #492 on: February 02, 2018, 11:30:43 AM »
He'll be here all week, folks! Try the veal!

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#### Papa Legba

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« Reply #493 on: February 02, 2018, 11:45:25 AM »
I'll be here until the rabbibot justifies making the following statement, Paul...

Cos I think it's the most mental thing anyone on this site has ever said.

Quote from: Papa Legba
Here's another good example of its incompetence:
Seems the rabbibot now states that even though gravity causes a downwards force it is not forcing things downwards...
That's right, Mr Voodoo Priest, that is what I said!
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID ALRIGHT!
Yup, that's what I said! gravity might be causing a downwards force on you, but it is not forcing you down.

THAT'S STILL WHAT HE SAID!
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

#### rvlvr

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« Reply #494 on: February 02, 2018, 12:17:10 PM »
Hey, now that you are here. What do you think of the map brotherhood of the dome has created?

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#### dutchy

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« Reply #495 on: February 02, 2018, 12:18:09 PM »
Hey, now that you are here. What do you think of the map brotherhood of the dome has created?
I follow the topic, but does he have a map allready ?

#### rvlvr

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« Reply #496 on: February 02, 2018, 12:39:53 PM »
I think it is getting ready. Do you think it is accurate?

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#### dutchy

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« Reply #497 on: February 02, 2018, 12:48:16 PM »
I think it is getting ready. Do you think it is accurate?
I don't know (yet)  !!!
Is that a valid answer among so many extremely pretentious forum members ?
Is it possible that a member over here claims he does not know something while the ocean of profound knowledge is surrounding him ?

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#### Papa Legba

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« Reply #498 on: February 02, 2018, 01:06:51 PM »
I think it is getting ready. Do you think it is accurate?
I don't know (yet)  !!!
Is that a valid answer among so many extremely pretentious forum members ?
Is it possible that a member over here claims he does not know something while the ocean of profound knowledge is surrounding him ?

Here's Lord Kelvin on gravity:

"I accept no theory of gravitation. Present science has no right to attempt to explain gravitation. We know nothing about it. We simply know nothing about it".

https://zapatopi.net/kelvin/quotes/

So you're in good company when you say "I don't know".

Of course, Kelvin was speaking of the Causes of gravity; the Effects are well recorded...

Except to the rabbibot, of course, who thinks that gravity causes a downwards force that somehow does not force things downwards.

That imaginary flat Earth friend in his head really did a job on him, dutchy...

Teach him to say: "I do not know and it does not matter that I don't"...

Save him!
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#### Macarios

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« Reply #499 on: February 02, 2018, 01:17:23 PM »
Here's Lord Kelvin on gravity:

"I accept no theory of gravitation. Present science has no right to attempt to explain gravitation. We know nothing about it. We simply know nothing about it".

Maybe he was right at the time?
(Later things changed. We can't stop time.)

Or was he right?
If "we simply know nothing about it", is there any other way to discover, but to explore and try to explain?
If I don't understand it, it doesn't mean no one could.

We already know that there's no authority in science but facts and figures.
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

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#### Papa Legba

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« Reply #500 on: February 02, 2018, 01:23:03 PM »
Here's Lord Kelvin on gravity:

"I accept no theory of gravitation. Present science has no right to attempt to explain gravitation. We know nothing about it. We simply know nothing about it".

Maybe he was right at the time?
(Later things changed. We can't stop time.)

Or was he right?
If "we simply know nothing about it", is there any other way to discover, but to explore and try to explain?
If I don't understand it, it doesn't mean no one could.

We already know that there's no authority in science but facts and figures.

I put your post through this:

http://www.cleverbot.com

It replied: "fuck off, bot".

So yeah...

« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 01:28:22 PM by Papa Legba »
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#### Rounde

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« Reply #501 on: February 02, 2018, 01:42:15 PM »
Uh oh you people, you got it wrong. The earth is r o I n d sup
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#### rabinoz

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« Reply #502 on: February 02, 2018, 01:53:39 PM »
Except to the rabbibot, of course, who thinks that gravity causes a downwards force that somehow does not force things downwards.
That's right Mr Dimwit Voodoo Priest!
Gravity causes a downwards force that might keep you on your chair, but if it forced things downwards you would be forced down through your and end in the "underworld".

Sit a block of steel on your head and "gravity causes a downwards force" onto your head, but it "does not force" that block of steel "downwards" through you head.

It's no wonder that you cannot understand how more than 2200 satellites can be orbiting  the earth, including this really really big one.
 VLADIVOSTOK, RUSSIA – JANUARY 31, 2018: A red supermoon rises over hills in the city of Vladivostok in Russia’s Far East.Yuri Smityuk/TASS (Photo by Yuri SmityukTASS via Getty Images)

Still the super dense Mr Dimwit Voodoo Priest won't understand it,
but normal rational people might understand the difference between causing a downwards force and forcing things downwards.

Bye bye Mr Dimwit Voodoo Priest

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#### Papa Legba

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« Reply #503 on: February 02, 2018, 02:00:07 PM »
Except to the rabbibot, of course, who thinks that gravity causes a downwards force that somehow does not force things downwards.
normal rational people might understand the difference between causing a downwards force and forcing things downwards.

No.

Never met a single one who has.

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#### rabinoz

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« Reply #504 on: February 02, 2018, 02:01:50 PM »
Here's Lord Kelvin on gravity:

"I accept no theory of gravitation. Present science has no right to attempt to explain gravitation. We know nothing about it. We simply know nothing about it".

Maybe he was right at the time?
(Later things changed. We can't stop time.)

Or was he right?
If "we simply know nothing about it", is there any other way to discover, but to explore and try to explain?
If I don't understand it, it doesn't mean no one could.

We already know that there's no authority in science but facts and figures.

If you think that Lord Kelvin actually doubted gravitation read this paper about aether and gravitation:
Skulls in the Stars, Lord Kelvin vs. the Aether! (1901)
Of course, Mr Dimwit Voodoo Priest won't have the attention span to even read it, let alone the nous to understand what it means.

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#### Papa Legba

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« Reply #505 on: February 02, 2018, 02:29:18 PM »
STFU rabbibot.

The only Kelvin quote relevant to your sick self is this:

"The true measure of a man is what he would do if he knew he would never get caught".

You know you will never get caught, so you are utterly without moral or intellectual compass...

Here are the depths to which your twisted self is prepared to sink:

Quote from: Papa Legba
Here's another good example of its incompetence:
Seems the rabbibot now states that even though gravity causes a downwards force it is not forcing things downwards...
That's right, Mr Voodoo Priest, that is what I said!
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID ALRIGHT!
Yup, that's what I said! gravity might be causing a downwards force on you, but it is not forcing you down.

THAT'S STILL WHAT HE SAID!
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

#### rabinoz

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« Reply #506 on: February 02, 2018, 03:07:40 PM »
STFU rabbibot.

The only Kelvin quote relevant to your sick self is this:

"The true measure of a man is what he would do if he knew he would never get caught".

You know you will never get caught, so you are utterly without moral or intellectual compass...

Here are the depths to which your twisted self is prepared to sink:

Quote from: Papa Legba
Here's another good example of its incompetence:
Seems the rabbibot now states that even though gravity causes a downwards force it is not forcing things downwards...
That's right, Mr Voodoo Priest, that is what I said!
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID ALRIGHT!
Yup, that's what I said! gravity might be causing a downwards force on you, but it is not forcing you down.

THAT'S STILL WHAT HE SAID!
Yup, I said that and you haven't the brains to see what it means, nor even understand how the moon "stays up there" and isn't forced down by gravity!

The poor Mr Demented Voodoo Priest is getting desperate! I do hope you have a safety valve, so you don't blow your top!
Bye bye, have a nice night!

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#### Papa Legba

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« Reply #507 on: February 02, 2018, 03:24:56 PM »
Quote from: Papa Legba
Seems the rabbibot now states that even though gravity causes a downwards force it is not forcing things downwards...
That's right, Mr Voodoo Priest, that is what I said!
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID ALRIGHT!
Yup, that's what I said! gravity might be causing a downwards force on you, but it is not forcing you down.

THAT'S STILL WHAT HE SAID!
Yup, I said that

YUP HE DEFINITELY SAID THAT!
« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 03:30:02 PM by Papa Legba »
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#### JerkFace

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« Reply #508 on: February 02, 2018, 03:35:01 PM »
The poor Mr Demented Voodoo Priest is getting desperate! I do hope you have a safety valve, so you don't blow your top!

Hi Rab,  here's a tip on how to piss off Papa Legba,  just ignore him,  never respond to trolls ever.   His particular psychosis requires feedback to validate his existence, it doesn't matter if the responses are  positive or negative.   By ignoring him you deprive him of that and he eventually goes away.

The exception to the rule is reverse trolling,  Markjo has developed that to a high art.  but it's not a technique for beginners.

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

#### markjo

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##### Re: uh oh. another nail. sorry guys.
« Reply #509 on: February 02, 2018, 03:35:39 PM »
I think it is getting ready. Do you think it is accurate?
I don't know (yet)  !!!
Is that a valid answer among so many extremely pretentious forum members ?
Is it possible that a member over here claims he does not know something while the ocean of profound knowledge is surrounding him ?

Here's Lord Kelvin on gravity:

"I accept no theory of gravitation. Present science has no right to attempt to explain gravitation. We know nothing about it. We simply know nothing about it".

https://zapatopi.net/kelvin/quotes/
He also said "Radio has no future" and "X-rays will prove to be a hoax."
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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