Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago

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The Strange and deceptive Heliocentrics will have you believe that their model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago .

This is just another one of their deceptions ; the current Heliocentric model was designed in the 19th century.

The video  below contains an article from a newspaper from the said time that verifys this .


I have also provided an audio book from a British man who was educated in the 19 th century these Heliocentrics will try and decieve you and imply that the likes of Samuel Rowbotham and John E Quinlan where like the flat earthers of today; being a minority rather than the majority in western society.

 The truth is that they at the time where the majority and reflected the views of the public.

If we look at the great men of the time such as Samuel Rowbotham ( Parallax ) it is said he steam rollered all opponents to the Flat Earth in his many debates.

This is because at the time the flat earth was still taught in the education system so it was the generally accepted model .

It only takes a few generations for nonsense to become fact when we are indoctrinated with the said information from an early age as is the practice now and has been for the last 120 years.

This would also explain why these Strange Heliocentrics could not stage space exploration and the fake moon landings to well after the second world war as the people that where taught the truth that being that the Earth is flat and stationary with waters above and waters below would all be dead.

For example the nursery rhyme twinkle twinkle little star was written by Jane Austin in 1806 :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkle,_Twinkle,_Little_Star

This verifys that the public at the time where not familiar with the Heliocentric model.

We should pay particular attention to the lyrics in the first verse :

Twinkle, twinkle, little star, How I wonder what you are! Up above the world so high, Like a diamond in the sky.



We can all verify for ourselves that this would not be possible today as these Strange   deceptive Heliocentrics have infiltrated our education system the first thing we see in the Nursery classroom is Heliocentric nonsense such as the Globe , Dinosaurs , fictional books on space and aliens .

I believe the slogan in UK Nurserys is " reading is fun "
This translates to " Brain washing starts young "

Children's television is even worse I don't even want to get started on that.

These Heliocentrics will make out that the above topics have nothing to do with their model but any normal person can determine that it is all part of the same deception that enables the Heliocentrics to get us to accept the impossible and ignore our own observations and senses as adults.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2017, 03:51:32 PM by Resistance.is.Futile »

The Strange and deceptive Heliocentrics will have you believe that their model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago .

This is just another one of their deceptions ; the current Heliocentric model was designed in the 19th century.

The video  below contains an article from a newspaper from the said time that verifys this .


I have also provided an audio book from a British man who was educated in the 19 th century these Heliocentrics will try and decieve you and imply that the likes of Samuel Rowbotham and John E Quinlan where like the flat earthers of today; being a minority rather than the majority in western society.

 The truth is that they at the time where the majority and reflected the views of the public.

If we look at the great men of the time such as Samuel Rowbotham ( Parallax ) it is said he steam rollered all opponents to the Flat Earth in his many debates.

This is because at the time the flat earth was still taught in the education system so it was the generally accepted model .

It only takes a few generations for nonsense to become fact when we are indoctrinated with the said information from an early age as is the practice now and has been for the last 120 years.

This would also explain why these Strange Heliocentrics could not stage space exploration and the fake moon landings to well after the second world war as the people that where taught the truth that being that the Earth is flat and stationary with waters above and waters below would all be dead.

For example the nursery rhyme twinkle twinkle little star was written by Jane Austin in 1806 :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkle,_Twinkle,_Little_Star

This verifys that the public at the time where not familiar with the Heliocentric model.

We should pay particular attention to the lyrics in the first verse :

Twinkle, twinkle, little star, How I wonder what you are! Up above the world so high, Like a diamond in the sky.



We can all verify for ourselves that this would not be possible today as these Strange   deceptive Heliocentrics have infiltrated our education system the first thing we see in the Nursery classroom is Heliocentric nonsense such as the Globe , Dinosaurs , fictional books on space and aliens .

I believe the slogan in UK Nurserys is " reading is fun "
This translates to " Brain washing starts young "

Children's television is even worse I don't even want to get started on that.

These Heliocentrics will make out that the above topics have nothing to do with their model but any normal person can determine that it is all part of the same deception that enables the Heliocentrics to get us to accept the impossible and ignore our own observations and senses as adults.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

you show one article of a newspaper as a prove, what is with all the scientific publication that show it is otherwise?

The Strange and deceptive Heliocentrics will have you believe that their model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago .

This is just another one of their deceptions ; the current Heliocentric model was designed in the 19th century.

The earth has been known to be spherical, with a good estimate of its size, for 2000 or so years. The heliocentric model of the solar system became well established in the 16th century (less than 500 years ago) because it explained observations better and more elegantly than the geocentric model of the solar system. Together they work well to form a coherent explination of both commonly-made and highly precise observations, but they are still distinct models.

It might help your argument if you got your facts straight for a change. Your argument needs all the help it can get.

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The video  below contains an article from a newspaper from the said time that verifys this .

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Yet another video? Can you summarize the points this video purports to make? All of these videos so far have been shot through with errors and misinformation, and are a complete waste of time.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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FalseProphet

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The heliocentric model of the solar system became well established in the 16th century

In the 17th century. Around 1600 the Tychonian model was the model of choice. It explained observation as well as the Copernican model and did also explain the lack of measurable star parallax. Most astronomers just could not imagine at this time how ridiculously far away the stars are.

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rabinoz

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The Strange and deceptive Heliocentrics will have you believe that their model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago .
Stop lying to us! No-one claims that the current Heliocentric Globe "model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago".
It was suggested and discarded around 2300 years ago, but was not given much credence to well after the time of Nicolaus Copernicus (1514).
Even then it was slow to catch on, though Galileo Galilei did support his ideas (around 1610).
It was not till around Kepler's theory (1609 to 1618) that it gained with acceptance.

But your claims that we "believe that their model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago" is simply false and YOU know it.

I can see you just setting another of your totally dishonest straw-man arguments again, as you and so many YouTube flat earth video producers do,

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
This is just another one of their deceptions ; the current Heliocentric model was designed in the 19th century.
That is a totally untrue, and another one of your deceptions.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
The video  below contains an article from a newspaper from the said time that verifys this .


It doesn't! It's just a newspaper report from the tiny village of Grand Marais, Minnesota.
In the best of times a newspaper report means little.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
I have also provided an audio book from a British man who was educated in the 19 th century these Heliocentrics will try and decieve you and imply that the likes of Samuel Rowbotham and John E Quinlan where like the flat earthers of today; being a minority rather than the majority in western society.
The truth is that they at the time where the majority and reflected the views of the public.
Rubbish! Sometime I'll take the time to prove just how ignorant Samuel Birley Rowbotham was on astronomy, science in general and measurement.

Why do you insist on posting total fabrications? The Heliocentric Globe came much later the those I list below, but the Globe was without a doubt the accepted shape of the fro thousands of years.

The Venerable Bede,
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Bede the Venerable
The monk Bede (c. 672735) wrote in his influential treatise on computus, The Reckoning of Time, that the Earth was round. He explained the unequal length of daylight from "the roundness of the Earth, for not without reason is it called 'the orb of the world' on the pages of Holy Scripture and of ordinary literature. It is, in fact, set like a sphere in the middle of the whole universe." (De temporum ratione, 32). The large number of surviving manuscripts of The Reckoning of Time, copied to meet the Carolingian requirement that all priests should study the computus, indicates that many, if not most, priests were exposed to the idea of the sphericity of the Earth.
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Bede was lucid about earth's sphericity, writing "We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth's circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe... For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides."
From: Spherical Earth

But not all by any means we're from Europe.
Would your "those in power that educated white males" include those from India, Arabia and Persia?

And certainly many in those middle eastern countries (including India) knew the earth was a Globe around the first millennium AD.
  • Aryabhata of India (AD 476550): "was a pioneer of mathematical astronomy. He describes the earth as being spherical and that it rotates on its axis"

  • Caliph al-Ma'mun: "Around AD 830 commissioned a group of astronomers led by Al-Khwarizmi to measure the distance from Tadmur (Palmyra) to Raqqa, in modern Syria. They found the cities to be separated by one degree of latitude and the distance between them to be 66 2/3 miles and thus calculated the Earth's circumference to be 24,000 miles. Another estimate given was 56  2/3 Arabic miles per degree, which corresponds to 111.8 km per degree and a circumference of 40,248 km, very close to the currently modern values of 111.3 km per degree and 40,068 km circumference, respectively."

  • Abu Rayhan Biruni (9731048):
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    used a new method to accurately compute the Earth's circumference, by which he arrived at a value that was close to modern values for the Earth's circumference. His estimate of 6,339.9 km for the Earth radius was only 16.8 km less than the modern value of 6,356.7 km. In contrast to his predecessors, who measured the Earth's circumference by sighting the Sun simultaneously from two different locations, Biruni developed a new method of using trigonometric calculations based on the angle between a plain and mountain top.

    This yielded more accurate measurements of the Earth's circumference and made it possible for a single person to measure it from a single location. Biruni's method was intended to avoid "walking across hot, dusty deserts," and the idea came to him when he was on top of a tall mountain in India. From the top of the mountain, he sighted the angle to the horizon which, along with the mountain's height (which he calculated beforehand), allowed him to calculate the curvature of the Earth. He also made use of algebra to formulate trigonometric equations and used the astrolabe to measure angles.
They all seemed certain that the earth was a Globe then, and I'm sure no-one has flattened it since :P.

And I am quite aware that they (apart from Aryabhata of India) believed that the earth was stationary and at the centre of the universe.
I have no problem with that as proof of the earth's rotation initially came from astronomical observations, Ptolemy's for Nicolaus Copernicus and Tycho Brahe's for Johannes Kepler.

Run off and learn some real history instead of dredging up rubbish from YouTube videos made be

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frenat

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Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
The video  below contains an article from a newspaper from the said time that verifys this .


It doesn't! It's just a newspaper report from the tiny village of Grand Marais, Minnesota.
In the best of times a newspaper report means little.
It also appears to be sarcastic.  Other articles on the same page are also fanciful.

From the comments on the video "That's clearly either a joke, or somebody being sarcastic about a flat earth nut case.

The imposters act? No such thing. It's a part of the "British constitution"? Ah, well, Britain doesn't HAVE a constitution. And one of the punishments is "burning at the stake". Sheeah, right.

You were suckered by a 117 year old article."

But RiF should know this already as IIRC was mentioned the last time he posted this video.  Further proof he is just trolling.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2017, 09:39:37 PM by frenat »

The heliocentric model of the solar system became well established in the 16th century

In the 17th century. Around 1600 the Tychonian model was the model of choice. It explained observation as well as the Copernican model and did also explain the lack of measurable star parallax. Most astronomers just could not imagine at this time how ridiculously far away the stars are.

Fine. Maybe it's 400 years, not 500, instead of 2000.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

The Strange and deceptive Heliocentrics will have you believe that their model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago .
Stop lying to us! No-one claims that the current Heliocentric Globe "model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago".
It was suggested and discarded around 2300 years ago, but was not given much credence to well after the time of Nicolaus Copernicus (1514).
Even then it was slow to catch on, though Galileo Galilei did support his ideas (around 1610).
It was not till around Kepler's theory (1609 to 1618) that it gained with acceptance.

But your claims that we "believe that their model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago" is simply false and YOU know it.

I can see you just setting another of your totally dishonest straw-man arguments again, as you and so many YouTube flat earth video producers do,

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
This is just another one of their deceptions ; the current Heliocentric model was designed in the 19th century.
That is a totally untrue, and another one of your deceptions.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
The video  below contains an article from a newspaper from the said time that verifys this .


It doesn't! It's just a newspaper report from the tiny village of Grand Marais, Minnesota.
In the best of times a newspaper report means little.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
I have also provided an audio book from a British man who was educated in the 19 th century these Heliocentrics will try and decieve you and imply that the likes of Samuel Rowbotham and John E Quinlan where like the flat earthers of today; being a minority rather than the majority in western society.
The truth is that they at the time where the majority and reflected the views of the public.
Rubbish! Sometime I'll take the time to prove just how ignorant Samuel Birley Rowbotham was on astronomy, science in general and measurement.

Why do you insist on posting total fabrications? The Heliocentric Globe came much later the those I list below, but the Globe was without a doubt the accepted shape of the fro thousands of years.

The Venerable Bede,
Quote
Bede the Venerable
The monk Bede (c. 672735) wrote in his influential treatise on computus, The Reckoning of Time, that the Earth was round. He explained the unequal length of daylight from "the roundness of the Earth, for not without reason is it called 'the orb of the world' on the pages of Holy Scripture and of ordinary literature. It is, in fact, set like a sphere in the middle of the whole universe." (De temporum ratione, 32). The large number of surviving manuscripts of The Reckoning of Time, copied to meet the Carolingian requirement that all priests should study the computus, indicates that many, if not most, priests were exposed to the idea of the sphericity of the Earth.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Bede was lucid about earth's sphericity, writing "We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth's circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe... For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides."
From: Spherical Earth

But not all by any means we're from Europe.
Would your "those in power that educated white males" include those from India, Arabia and Persia?

And certainly many in those middle eastern countries (including India) knew the earth was a Globe around the first millennium AD.
  • Aryabhata of India (AD 476550): "was a pioneer of mathematical astronomy. He describes the earth as being spherical and that it rotates on its axis"

  • Caliph al-Ma'mun: "Around AD 830 commissioned a group of astronomers led by Al-Khwarizmi to measure the distance from Tadmur (Palmyra) to Raqqa, in modern Syria. They found the cities to be separated by one degree of latitude and the distance between them to be 66 2/3 miles and thus calculated the Earth's circumference to be 24,000 miles. Another estimate given was 56  2/3 Arabic miles per degree, which corresponds to 111.8 km per degree and a circumference of 40,248 km, very close to the currently modern values of 111.3 km per degree and 40,068 km circumference, respectively."

  • Abu Rayhan Biruni (9731048):
    Quote
    used a new method to accurately compute the Earth's circumference, by which he arrived at a value that was close to modern values for the Earth's circumference. His estimate of 6,339.9 km for the Earth radius was only 16.8 km less than the modern value of 6,356.7 km. In contrast to his predecessors, who measured the Earth's circumference by sighting the Sun simultaneously from two different locations, Biruni developed a new method of using trigonometric calculations based on the angle between a plain and mountain top.

    This yielded more accurate measurements of the Earth's circumference and made it possible for a single person to measure it from a single location. Biruni's method was intended to avoid "walking across hot, dusty deserts," and the idea came to him when he was on top of a tall mountain in India. From the top of the mountain, he sighted the angle to the horizon which, along with the mountain's height (which he calculated beforehand), allowed him to calculate the curvature of the Earth. He also made use of algebra to formulate trigonometric equations and used the astrolabe to measure angles.
They all seemed certain that the earth was a Globe then, and I'm sure no-one has flattened it since :P.

And I am quite aware that they (apart from Aryabhata of India) believed that the earth was stationary and at the centre of the universe.
I have no problem with that as proof of the earth's rotation initially came from astronomical observations, Ptolemy's for Nicolaus Copernicus and Tycho Brahe's for Johannes Kepler.

Run off and learn some real history instead of dredging up rubbish from YouTube videos made be

You speak nonsense.

All you Heliocentrics do is lie and decieve.

The His-story you provide us with is pure fabrication it is all bollocks that your brethren have pulled out their arse over the last few centuries to justify your ridiculous model.

The only way any normal person can verify your words regarding world history is if they where 2000 years old.

As us flat earthers know you strange people have been proven to be Liars and will make anything up to justify your religion this goes right from this forum to world history.

I do pity you cattle like strange people in a way ; as all of the efforts your brethren have made over in the past few hundred years have been for naught.

In a few years time the majority of people in the west will trust their own senses and observations and will not believe the impossible ; they will reject your stories on world his-story and your ridiculous Heliocentric model.

For example you strange people expect the masses to believe that stars are 1000000000000000 miles away.

You expect the masses to believe that the light travels through the vacuum of space (space doesn't exist ) and can be seen with the naked eye from such an obscene distance .

Lol.

Lol.

Anyone that actually thinks about this will realise their folly in believing such nonsense in the first place.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2017, 12:49:06 AM by Resistance.is.Futile »

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The His-story you provide us with is pure fabrication it is all bollocks that your brethren have pulled out their arse over the last few centuries to justify your ridiculous model.

The only way any normal person can verify your words regarding world history is if they where 2000 years old.

Interesting. So any writings done by any philosopher, astronomer, engineer, physicist and the like over the last 2000 years that does not confirm with your ideas of the earth being flat and the center of a minuscule universe is obviously a lie? Meanwhile your quote mining, taking things our of context, and outright fabrications are the truth because the help you sleep better on your flat earth at night?

Delusion

Your strange deluded babblings are false

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rabinoz

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<< unsubstantiated deceitful incorrect rubbish deleted >>
Stop lying to us! No-one claims that the current Heliocentric Globe "model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago".
It was suggested and discarded around 2300 years ago, but was not given much credence to well after the time of Nicolaus Copernicus (1514).
Even then it was slow to catch on, though Galileo Galilei did support his ideas (around 1610).
It was not till around Kepler's theory (1609 to 1618) that it gained with acceptance.

But your claims that we "believe that their model was designed and constructed over 2000 years ago" is simply false and YOU know it.

I can see you just setting another of your totally dishonest straw-man arguments again, as you and so many YouTube flat earth video producers do,

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
<< unsubstantiated deceitful incorrect rubbish deleted >>
That is a totally untrue, and another one of your deceptions.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
<< unsubstantiated deceitful incorrect rubbish deleted >>
It doesn't! It's just a newspaper report from the tiny village of Grand Marais, Minnesota.
In the best of times a newspaper report means little.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
<< unsubstantiated deceitful incorrect rubbish deleted >>
Rubbish! Sometime I'll take the time to prove just how ignorant Samuel Birley Rowbotham was on astronomy, science in general and measurement.

Why do you insist on posting total fabrications? The Heliocentric Globe came much later the those I list below, but the Globe was without a doubt the accepted shape of the fro thousands of years.

The Venerable Bede,
Quote
Bede the Venerable
The monk Bede (c. 672735) wrote in his influential treatise on computus, The Reckoning of Time, that the Earth was round. He explained the unequal length of daylight from "the roundness of the Earth, for not without reason is it called 'the orb of the world' on the pages of Holy Scripture and of ordinary literature. It is, in fact, set like a sphere in the middle of the whole universe." (De temporum ratione, 32). The large number of surviving manuscripts of The Reckoning of Time, copied to meet the Carolingian requirement that all priests should study the computus, indicates that many, if not most, priests were exposed to the idea of the sphericity of the Earth.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Bede was lucid about earth's sphericity, writing "We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth's circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe... For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides."
From: Spherical Earth

But not all by any means were from Europe.

And certainly many in those middle eastern countries (including India) knew the earth was a Globe around the first millennium AD.
  • Aryabhata of India (AD 476550): "was a pioneer of mathematical astronomy. He describes the earth as being spherical and that it rotates on its axis"

  • Caliph al-Ma'mun: "Around AD 830 commissioned a group of astronomers led by Al-Khwarizmi to measure the distance from Tadmur (Palmyra) to Raqqa, in modern Syria. They found the cities to be separated by one degree of latitude and the distance between them to be 66 2/3 miles and thus calculated the Earth's circumference to be 24,000 miles. Another estimate given was 56  2/3 Arabic miles per degree, which corresponds to 111.8 km per degree and a circumference of 40,248 km, very close to the currently modern values of 111.3 km per degree and 40,068 km circumference, respectively."

  • Abu Rayhan Biruni (9731048):
    Quote
    used a new method to accurately compute the Earth's circumference, by which he arrived at a value that was close to modern values for the Earth's circumference. His estimate of 6,339.9 km for the Earth radius was only 16.8 km less than the modern value of 6,356.7 km. In contrast to his predecessors, who measured the Earth's circumference by sighting the Sun simultaneously from two different locations, Biruni developed a new method of using trigonometric calculations based on the angle between a plain and mountain top.

    This yielded more accurate measurements of the Earth's circumference and made it possible for a single person to measure it from a single location. Biruni's method was intended to avoid "walking across hot, dusty deserts," and the idea came to him when he was on top of a tall mountain in India. From the top of the mountain, he sighted the angle to the horizon which, along with the mountain's height (which he calculated beforehand), allowed him to calculate the curvature of the Earth. He also made use of algebra to formulate trigonometric equations and used the astrolabe to measure angles.
They all seemed certain that the earth was a Globe then, and I'm sure no-one has flattened it since :P.

And I am quite aware that they (apart from Aryabhata of India) believed that the earth was stationary and at the centre of the universe.
I have no problem with that as proof of the earth's rotation initially came from astronomical observations, Ptolemy's for Nicolaus Copernicus and Tycho Brahe's for Johannes Kepler.

Run off and learn some real history instead of dredging up rubbish from YouTube videos made be
<< unsubstantiated deceitful incorrect rubbish deleted >>
So sorry, but I seem to have deleted everything you wrote, no matter, it was all trash.

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Crutchwater

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 03:05:15 AM »
Who is a bigger idiot?

The idiot?

Or the idiot who argues with the idiot?

RiF is playing you guys like a stolen fiddle.
I will always be Here To Laugh At You.

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rabinoz

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 03:13:07 AM »
Who is a bigger idiot?

The idiot?

Or the idiot who argues with the idiot?

RiF is playing you guys like a stolen fiddle.
Some enjoy poking hornets nests with a stick. And I'm aware of How to argue with an idiot.
Scroll down and get more details, like:
"Never wrestle with a pig, you'll both get dirty and the pig will enjoy it." In other words, don't argue with an idiot, you both look stupid and the idiot enjoys it!

Though I post not to argue with RiF, he takes no notice anyway,  but just to show others the other side.
You might note that I simply delete most of his rubbish.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2017, 03:17:08 AM by rabinoz »

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Crutchwater

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2017, 03:43:41 AM »
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy your posts, and enjoy watching RiF get his ass handed to him repeatedly...

 I have no patience for such endeavors, but I salute you!
I will always be Here To Laugh At You.

Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2017, 04:37:46 AM »
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy your posts, and enjoy watching RiF get his ass handed to him repeatedly...

 I have no patience for such endeavors, but I salute you!

and for me it is also a good learning how to handle idiotic believes.

before i was more the way to answer: "you are a complete idiot you should better shut up"
that leads to the fakt that bystanders think i have no real argument against that person and therefore they believe more that person.
now i know that you can defeat these idiot with arguments and also how to us their own arguments against them.
That leads to it that bystanders understand that i listen to his arguments and also understood them and could give that way the proper counter arguments.

i even had it a few times that the idiotic arguer saw that he was wrong and changed his mind and agreed at the end with me.

Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2017, 05:17:39 AM »
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy your posts, and enjoy watching RiF get his ass handed to him repeatedly...

 I have no patience for such endeavors, but I salute you!

and for me it is also a good learning how to handle idiotic believes.

before i was more the way to answer: "you are a complete idiot you should better shut up"
that leads to the fakt that bystanders think i have no real argument against that person and therefore they believe more that person.
now i know that you can defeat these idiot with arguments and also how to us their own arguments against them.
That leads to it that bystanders understand that i listen to his arguments and also understood them and could give that way the proper counter arguments.

i even had it a few times that the idiotic arguer saw that he was wrong and changed his mind and agreed at the end with me.

Example please ......


Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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GRIZZ420

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2017, 07:51:13 AM »
I got a question for resistance is futile. How could someone who believes in flat earth be a Star Trek fan?

Your name is quote from the Borg and Trek is one of the most NASA and real science influenced shows on TV. If you support Star Trek you then unintentionally or intentionally support NASA along with scientific facts and theory.

Facts are stubborn things and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
- John Adams

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zork

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2017, 02:30:24 PM »
This is just another one of their deceptions ; the current Heliocentric model was designed in the 19th century.

The video  below contains an article from a newspaper from the said time that verifys this .
You lie. There is no such claim in this article.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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dutchy

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2017, 02:59:04 PM »
I've created a modern version of 'twinkle twinkle little star' that should be the only version available from now on.
And i am expecting full support from the globbies who are complaining about a failing educational system lately.
Here is the new gindergarten version of 2017 !
And i inserted some related questions into the lyrics, which give parents and teachers a great oppertunity to teach our 3 and 4 years old the proper way in 2017.

Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near
Up above the world so high
Scattered through fragmented sky
Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

When the blazing sun is gone
When our side of earth is done
Other suns will reappear
Twinkle through the atmosphere
Thermo, thermo plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near


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RocketSauce

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2017, 03:06:21 PM »
I'm shocked...

This is the oldest newspaper in America... It's been around since 1764... And it confirms what Resistance.is.Futile says...



https://connecticuthistory.org/New-Evidence-Suggests-The-Earth-Is-Not-So-Flat/

Well... at least, it was figured out eventually to be a Round Earth... I guess...  :(
Quote from: Every FE'r

Please don't mention Himawari 8
Quote from: sceptimatic
Impossible to have the same volume and different density.

*fact*
Extra Virgin Penguin Blood is a natural aphrodisiac

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RocketSauce

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2017, 03:07:26 PM »
I've created a modern version of 'twinkle twinkle little star' that should be the only version available from now on.
And i am expecting full support from the globbies who are complaining about a failing educational system lately.
Here is the new gindergarten version of 2017 !
And i inserted some related questions into the lyrics, which give parents and teachers a great oppertunity to teach our 3 and 4 years old the proper way in 2017.

Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near
Up above the world so high
Scattered through fragmented sky
Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

When the blazing sun is gone
When our side of earth is done
Other suns will reappear
Twinkle through the atmosphere
Thermo, thermo plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

That's pretty good...
Quote from: Every FE'r

Please don't mention Himawari 8
Quote from: sceptimatic
Impossible to have the same volume and different density.

*fact*
Extra Virgin Penguin Blood is a natural aphrodisiac

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Sentinel

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  • Open your eyes...
Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2017, 03:09:44 PM »
I've created a modern version of 'twinkle twinkle little star' that should be the only version available from now on.
And i am expecting full support from the globbies who are complaining about a failing educational system lately.
Here is the new gindergarten version of 2017 !
And i inserted some related questions into the lyrics, which give parents and teachers a great oppertunity to teach our 3 and 4 years old the proper way in 2017.

Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near
Up above the world so high
Scattered through fragmented sky
Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

When the blazing sun is gone
When our side of earth is done
Other suns will reappear
Twinkle through the atmosphere
Thermo, thermo plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

The educational system def failed on you I'm afraid...
But fear not, if ignorance actually is bliss you should be quite happy anyway.  :-\
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible."

Stanislaw Jerzy Lec

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dutchy

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2017, 03:16:46 PM »
I've created a modern version of 'twinkle twinkle little star' that should be the only version available from now on.
And i am expecting full support from the globbies who are complaining about a failing educational system lately.
Here is the new gindergarten version of 2017 !
And i inserted some related questions into the lyrics, which give parents and teachers a great oppertunity to teach our 3 and 4 years old the proper way in 2017.

Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near
Up above the world so high
Scattered through fragmented sky
Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

When the blazing sun is gone
When our side of earth is done
Other suns will reappear
Twinkle through the atmosphere
Thermo, thermo plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

The educational system def failed on you I'm afraid...
But fear not, if ignorance actually is bliss you should be quite happy anyway.  :-\
That is one vote for the new version then ?
That makes two allready !

I am happy that my expertise in the music industry isn't futile after all.
I have more ideas though.....  an intergallactic live performance between the ISS and a typicall elementary school choir.
I call it 'between two worlds'. ::)

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Sentinel

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2017, 03:28:47 PM »
I really wonder though how it must feel to have over 1000 posts on any internet board and still being laughed at because of the level of ridiculousness you showed in basically any of these posts.
If you really were into conspiracy BS why you didn't chose a proper one like 9/11, Area 51 or even Bigfoot? FE isn't even laughable at best, and you didn't even get the punch line it seems...  :-\
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible."

Stanislaw Jerzy Lec

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Crutchwater

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2017, 04:26:58 PM »
Grammy winner, for sure.


"Niel DeGrasse Tyson is great and all, and Imma let you finish, but dutchy is the greatest artist on earth"


~Kanye
I will always be Here To Laugh At You.

Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2017, 05:39:20 PM »
I've created a modern version of 'twinkle twinkle little star' that should be the only version available from now on.
And i am expecting full support from the globbies who are complaining about a failing educational system lately.
Here is the new gindergarten version of 2017 !
And i inserted some related questions into the lyrics, which give parents and teachers a great oppertunity to teach our 3 and 4 years old the proper way in 2017.

Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near
Up above the world so high
Scattered through fragmented sky
Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

When the blazing sun is gone
When our side of earth is done
Other suns will reappear
Twinkle through the atmosphere
Thermo, thermo plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

The educational system def failed on you I'm afraid...
But fear not, if ignorance actually is bliss you should be quite happy anyway.  :-\
That is one vote for the new version then ?
That makes two allready !

I am happy that my expertise in the music industry isn't futile after all.
I have more ideas though.....  an intergallactic live performance between the ISS and a typicall elementary school choir.
I call it 'between two worlds'. ::)

I see what you like to try to do. You would like to influence the children into you believe system.

Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2017, 11:09:49 PM »
I've created a modern version of 'twinkle twinkle little star' that should be the only version available from now on.
And i am expecting full support from the globbies who are complaining about a failing educational system lately.
Here is the new gindergarten version of 2017 !
And i inserted some related questions into the lyrics, which give parents and teachers a great oppertunity to teach our 3 and 4 years old the proper way in 2017.

Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near
Up above the world so high
Scattered through fragmented sky
Thermo, thermo, plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

When the blazing sun is gone
When our side of earth is done
Other suns will reappear
Twinkle through the atmosphere
Thermo, thermo plasma sphere
Wonder why you look so near

Lol.

Lol.

Nice one.

Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2017, 11:12:13 PM »
I'm shocked...

This is the oldest newspaper in America... It's been around since 1764... And it confirms what Resistance.is.Futile says...



https://connecticuthistory.org/New-Evidence-Suggests-The-Earth-Is-Not-So-Flat/

Well... at least, it was figured out eventually to be a Round Earth... I guess...  :(

That is because I'm correct and these Heliocentrics lie and decieve that is why they should not be believed.



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2017, 11:24:57 PM »
I got a question for resistance is futile. How could someone who believes in flat earth be a Star Trek fan?

Your name is quote from the Borg and Trek is one of the most NASA and real science influenced shows on TV. If you support Star Trek you then unintentionally or intentionally support NASA along with scientific facts and theory.



I used to watch Star trek when it was on TV and I still watch the starwars films when there on.

Fortunately for me I can determine the difference between science - fiction and real verifiable science.

My debating name has many meanings the ones listed here are relevant to me :

1. In Star Trek, part of the standard message used by the Borg when they encounter an alien race they intend to assimilate into their collective. 

2. In other uses (such as gaming), uttered by somebody about to launch what they believe to be an all-out and unstoppable attack against an opponent with the intent of conquering/defeating them in one fell swoop. Only to be used if you want to announce your presence. 

3. Also used by a victor just after having utterly crushed an opponent.

It also has another meaning that is not listed here that is relevant to you Heliocentrics.


Unfortunately for your people by the time you do find out the full meaning of my name it will be too late.

 :(

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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rabinoz

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2017, 12:31:24 AM »
Unfortunately for your people by the time you do find out the full meaning of my name it will be too late.
Really Mr Troll.puppet.on.a.String just who is pulling your strings?

Your ludicrous pancake earth is totally useless at explaining reality.

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zork

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Re: Proof the HC Model was fabricated in the 19th century and not 2000 years ago
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2017, 02:54:42 AM »
It also has another meaning that is not listed here that is relevant to you Heliocentrics.

Unfortunately for your people by the time you do find out the full meaning of my name it will be too late.
I  guess if its too late then it can be after your death. Or if not then who really cares what your name means. And if we get to know then we can have a good laugh at it.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
-
http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.