Flights in the Southern Hemisphere

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2017, 07:55:30 PM »
I havent been in here in a few days but as I can see zero progress has been made by the flat earthers in explaining southern hemisphere to southern hemisphere flights.  I see alot of deflection about round vs sphere but thats kinda like what a magician does when he is trying to pull a trick on you.  Its called misdirection.  So, I guess we all agree that it is impossible for the Qantas flight to make if from Santiago to Sydney in 12 hours non stop on a flat earth which basically means, this thread single handedly debunks the flat earth.  "Roundies" always win!!!

Ignoring everyone else doesn't make you right.


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2017, 08:00:33 PM »
You wanna know what does make me right, facts.  Yes, facts make me right.  You guys have provided none.  You have been given more than enough chances to explain this flight in a flat earth model and you have given none.  Yes zero.  So, yes I am right. 

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2017, 08:26:43 PM »
You wanna know what does make me right, facts.  Yes, facts make me right.  You guys have provided none.  You have been given more than enough chances to explain this flight in a flat earth model and you have given none.  Yes zero.  So, yes I am right.

What facts make you right, relevant to this topic?


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #63 on: October 04, 2017, 08:30:09 PM »
The Santiago to Sydney flight. 

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2017, 08:34:24 PM »
The Santiago to Sydney flight.

How so?


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #65 on: October 04, 2017, 08:36:32 PM »
You know what it is stupid, im not going to go over this whole thread again.  You pretending you dont know what im talking about is proof enough for me.  Like I said "Roundies" always win

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2017, 08:41:01 PM »
You know what it is stupid, im not going to go over this whole thread again.  You pretending you dont know what im talking about is proof enough for me.  Like I said "Roundies" always win

I do know what you're talking about. What I don't know is where you proved anything that would contradict a flat Earth with facts.
You can't just say, "No I won't answer I win!", and expect to be taken seriously.


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2017, 08:45:28 PM »
The daily flight between Santiago and Sydney.  Definitly proves the earth is round.  Here is some good reading material for you found earlier in this thread

https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/page-5


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2017, 08:48:53 PM »
The daily flight between Santiago and Sydney.  Definitly proves the earth is round.  Here is some good reading material for you found earlier in this thread

https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/page-5

And I don't understand why you think this can't happen on a flat Earth.


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2017, 08:52:10 PM »
Thank you for deflecting once again like all you FEs do, proving us "roundies" correct.  You know exactly why it is impossible to work on a flat earth.  Your not even smart enough for your own theory

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2017, 08:56:20 PM »
Thank you for deflecting once again like all you FEs do, proving us "roundies" correct.  You know exactly why it is impossible to work on a flat earth.  Your not even smart enough for your own theory

I'm not deflecting at all, actually. Quite the opposite. I'm asking for more information.


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2017, 08:58:23 PM »
Believe me its all in the thread, you know it is.  Deflecting again

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2017, 09:02:07 PM »
Believe me its all in the thread, you know it is.  Deflecting again

If it's in the thread then quote it. I'm not deflecting at all. Do you know what deflecting means?


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2017, 09:19:30 PM »
I will do you one better, I will attach the link AGAIN.  You do your research and tell me how this flight is possible on a flat earth.

https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/page-5

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2017, 09:41:05 PM »
I will do you one better, I will attach the link AGAIN.  You do your research and tell me how this flight is possible on a flat earth.

https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/page-5

There's nothing really in there. We've talked about this. The flight doesn't even go over Antarctica.


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #75 on: October 04, 2017, 11:27:10 PM »
So you, just like all other flat earthers arent willing to even try to explain one of them.  I know why though, we all know why, even you know why you cant.  The earth is round.  Pick one of them and explain it, just one

Oh, and just one more thing, i would also like an explanation of why both the north and south poles are frozen yet the equator is hot.  Again makes sense on a round earth...not so much on a flat earth.  If you would be so kind.  Thanks much

Probably because the path the Sun follows is relatively centered on the equator, depending on the time of year.

So prove it.  Since you have already admitted that you flat earthers dont know how to make maps, tell me how we get seasons, tell me why lunar phases and eclipse phases show a round shadow, tell me why when a ship disappears keel first when sailing off in the distance, tell me why you can see the curvature of the earth at high altitudes, why have passengers on the concord witnessed two sunsets, why cant you see the southern cross in the northern hemisphere or the north star in the southern hemisphere, how can it be winter in australia when its summer in the USA?  None of these and many many more can any of you morons explain. 

I have to ask, have you ever made a map?
As for seasons and winter/summer in different hemiplanes, the ellipse the Sun follows expands, contracts, and wobbles as the year goes on.
Ships appear to disappear from the bottom up due to a combination of Rowbotham's perspective effect and refraction (or bendy light).

Have you ever seen the curvature of the Earth from high altitudes?
I certainly haven't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Rowbotham

interesting read. He sold fake cures was well known as a charlatan even back when he was alive. How many respectable people do you know who use a pseudo name to sell life preserving treatments and cures for illnesses we don't even have today. If I am wrong and he wasn't a lying con artist then show the world his cures for cancer or AIDS because he was more than happy to sell them to people. anything with his name on it is not proof of anything
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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #76 on: October 05, 2017, 03:22:17 AM »
The daily flight between Santiago and Sydney.  Definitly proves the earth is round.  Here is some good reading material for you found earlier in this thread

https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/page-5

And I don't understand why you think this can't happen on a flat Earth.
Because on any flat earth model with the North Pole in the centre and an Antarctic Ice-Wall around the outside not only would
       the distance from Sydney to Santiago would be far greater on the flat earth than on the Globe,
       but the route taken for the shortest distance on the flat earth would be completely different from the route on the Globe.
I can't comment further till I have some idea of how you imagine the "continental layout" of the flat earth.

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #77 on: October 05, 2017, 04:01:30 AM »
https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/page-5
There's nothing really in there. We've talked about this. The flight doesn't even go over Antarctica.
So what, did anyone claim that the flight went over Antarctica? The route distance and the path of the route are the issues.
You did read this post Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere « Reply #52 on: October 04, 2017, 07:42:48 AM »

This is the route on that QF28 flight:
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A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28)

QF28, Route on Mercator's Projection
The flight plan has us spending quite a bit of time at 71'30" South and the cloud forecast at the moment shows not a lot of cloud!
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QF28, Route on Polar Projection

Just got in. We had 30 minutes with an awesome view of the ice.
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Read the rest in: A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28)

But at least tell us whether "your flat earth" has the North Pole in the centre and Antarctica around the outside.

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #78 on: October 05, 2017, 07:28:53 PM »
https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/page-5
There's nothing really in there. We've talked about this. The flight doesn't even go over Antarctica.
So what, did anyone claim that the flight went over Antarctica? The route distance and the path of the route are the issues.
You did read this post Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere « Reply #52 on: October 04, 2017, 07:42:48 AM »

This is the route on that QF28 flight:
Quote from: TWCobra
A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28)

QF28, Route on Mercator's Projection
The flight plan has us spending quite a bit of time at 71'30" South and the cloud forecast at the moment shows not a lot of cloud!
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QF28, Route on Polar Projection

Just got in. We had 30 minutes with an awesome view of the ice.
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Read the rest in: A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28)

But at least tell us whether "your flat earth" has the North Pole in the centre and Antarctica around the outside.

Sorry, I must have had this thread confused with yet another that covers the same topic. I still don't see the issue here.


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2017, 11:55:39 AM »
Actually current flight paths do not make sense on a globe but make perfect sense on a flat disk shaped earth. For example all flights from California to Japan or Korea go over Alaska taking the Northern route, this makes sense only if the earth was a disk not a globe. All flights to Europe from United States take place over Greenland and sometimes even north of Greenland, this only makes sense on a disk. Flight from Australia to South Africa goes over Dubai, makes no sense on a globe but makes great sense on a disk, Look into it folks
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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2017, 12:05:54 PM »
Actually current flight paths do not make sense on a globe but make perfect sense on a flat disk shaped earth.
Actually, they make perfect sense on a globe if you understand how great circle routes work.
http://www.gcmap.com/
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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2017, 01:32:47 PM »
Actually current flight paths do not make sense on a globe but make perfect sense on a flat disk shaped earth. For example all flights from California to Japan or Korea go over Alaska taking the Northern route, this makes sense only if the earth was a disk not a globe. All flights to Europe from United States take place over Greenland and sometimes even north of Greenland, this only makes sense on a disk. Flight from Australia to South Africa goes over Dubai, makes no sense on a globe but makes great sense on a disk, Look into it folks
I would like to see a flat earth map that works with flight paths in the Southern Hemisphere.  The distances don't work.

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2017, 03:37:56 PM »
Actually current flight paths do not make sense on a globe but make perfect sense on a flat disk shaped earth. For example all flights from California to Japan or Korea go over Alaska taking the Northern route, this makes sense only if the earth was a disk not a globe. All flights to Europe from United States take place over Greenland and sometimes even north of Greenland, this only makes sense on a disk. Flight from Australia to South Africa goes over Dubai, makes no sense on a globe but makes great sense on a disk, Look into it folks
I would like to see a flat earth map that works with flight paths in the Southern Hemisphere.  The distances don't work.

Make one then.


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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2017, 03:39:56 PM »
Actually current flight paths do not make sense on a globe but make perfect sense on a flat disk shaped earth.
Rubbish!

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For example all flights from California to Japan or Korea go over Alaska taking the Northern route, this makes sense only if the earth was a disk not a globe.
Rubbish!
The shortest distances on the Globe are "great circles" and long distance airline routes are usually close to "great circles".

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All flights to Europe from United States take place over Greenland and sometimes even north of Greenland, this only makes sense on a disk.
And that fits perfectly with great circle routes on the Globe.

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Flight from Australia to South Africa goes over Dubai, makes no sense on a globe but makes great sense on a disk, Look into it folks
Emirates Airline do fly Australia to South Africa via a stop-over in Dubai, BUT QANTAS flies regular direct flights Sydney to/from Johannesburg.

Here is one Sydney to Johannesburg flight.
QANTAS flight QF63 flew Sydney, Australia to Johannesburg, South Africa in 13 hrs 29 min (on May 6) and the Great Circle distance is 11,036 km

Flight QF63 Sydney to Johannesburg

And here is a Santiago to Sydney flight. QANTAS flight QF28 flew from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia in 13 hrs 35 min (on May 11) flight distance is 11,462 km.

Flight QF28 Santiago to Sydney

There are also flights by Latham Airlines - see Latham Airlines, Melbourne to Santiago.
And direct flights from Aukland, New Zealand to South America.

On Sydney to/from Santiago flights you might like to read Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere « Reply #77 on: October 05, 2017, 09:01:30 PM »
;D ;D Of course, you will claim the all airline pilots are members of the illuminati. ;D ;D

Please run off and learn some facts about real airline routes before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #84 on: October 08, 2017, 05:12:01 PM »
I think the problem is that flat earthers don't recognize the difference between a true map of the world (a globe) and a map which is a projection of the globe.

Here is something else to consider.
Using the Bipolar AEP, try plotting the course a ship would have to take to go by ocean from San Diego, California to Yokosuka, Japan.
I will withhold my comments until I read those from flat earthers.
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I will retract that statement and make this comment.
I made three "round trips"  during my sea duty in the USN from San Francisco and San Diego to and from Yokosuka, Sasebo, Iwakuni,
Hong Kong, the Phillipines  and the coast of Korea. We certainly didn't use the Bipolar AEP for navigation and we certainly didn't sail around Alaska, the Arctic Ocean, the North Pole and Siberia to get to Japan and those other places !

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #85 on: October 08, 2017, 07:12:37 PM »
Actually current flight paths do not make sense on a globe but make perfect sense on a flat disk shaped earth. For example all flights from California to Japan or Korea go over Alaska taking the Northern route, this makes sense only if the earth was a disk not a globe. All flights to Europe from United States take place over Greenland and sometimes even north of Greenland, this only makes sense on a disk. Flight from Australia to South Africa goes over Dubai, makes no sense on a globe but makes great sense on a disk, Look into it folks
I would like to see a flat earth map that works with flight paths in the Southern Hemisphere.  The distances don't work.

Make one then.
As I said, the distances don't work.  Which is why there are no real flat earth maps

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2017, 07:21:30 PM »
Actually current flight paths do not make sense on a globe but make perfect sense on a flat disk shaped earth. For example all flights from California to Japan or Korea go over Alaska taking the Northern route, this makes sense only if the earth was a disk not a globe. All flights to Europe from United States take place over Greenland and sometimes even north of Greenland, this only makes sense on a disk. Flight from Australia to South Africa goes over Dubai, makes no sense on a globe but makes great sense on a disk, Look into it folks
I would like to see a flat earth map that works with flight paths in the Southern Hemisphere.  The distances don't work.

Make one then.

It is impossible to make your flat Earth map it has so many variants depending on which FE theory you choose to believe, that is the main issue with FE you all claim you know the truth but can not even agree with each other
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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2017, 01:30:55 AM »
Make one then.
That's your problem, not ours!

We've got accurate maps of the Globe, you don't have accurate maps of the flat earth - that seems very significant to me.

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2017, 10:50:22 AM »
Make one then.
That's your problem, not ours!

We've got accurate maps of the Globe, you don't have accurate maps of the flat earth - that seems very significant to me.

That's a typical flat earther response - we can't prove a flat earth but it must be flat because it is flat"

I've been ignoring this site fpr a while because ot seems you are just debating with kids. Hands over ears, eyes closed, "na na na na na" screaming and they demand to be taken seriously.

Research flat earth my round bottom.

Do they do any researching or is it watching fake discredited videos until all that drivel poors out their ears

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Re: Flights in the Southern Hemisphere
« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2017, 11:20:35 AM »
I would be intrested on some comments from th3rm0m3rm3tro on my post.
I shall be awaiting the same.
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