The Problem With Round Earthers

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The Problem With Round Earthers
« on: September 23, 2017, 01:20:32 PM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
« Last Edit: September 23, 2017, 05:22:34 PM by Googleotomy »
Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

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Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2017, 01:24:45 PM »
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2017, 03:30:14 PM »
Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
Yup, that horizon sure looks level to me:

Sun near setting at Weipa
   

Sunset at Weipa
   

Sun almost gone

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2017, 04:59:18 PM »
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 05:16:11 PM »
that was last night...

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2017, 05:21:11 PM »
Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
Yup, that horizon sure looks level to me:

Sun near setting at Weipa
   

Sunset at Weipa
   

Sun almost gone

Aye, Aye Sir ! That's one thing I do remember from my Sea Duty.
Put the writers of the " Manual For Lookouts "  and the Lookouts themselfs in the list of liars and conspiritors !
« Last Edit: September 23, 2017, 06:06:42 PM by Googleotomy »
Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Chorus:
Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !

Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2017, 10:52:37 PM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."



There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."

And you sir apparently have taken a seat in Plato’s Cave, where thy are showing the flat Earth
and have taken it in, hook line and sinker, to the point that the Dunning-Kruger effect  is in full effect.
As you see it, the truth, is a lie, and I don’t know how to drag you out of the cave.
For any evidence that I give, you’ll just call it a lie.
I see that there is no hope for you, unless you can drag yourself out of the cave.
The the universe has no obligation to makes sense to you.
The earth is a globe.

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2017, 11:37:33 PM »
Aye, Aye Sir ! That's one thing I do remember from my Sea Duty.
Put the writers of the " Manual For Lookouts "  and the Lookouts themselfs in the list of liars and conspiritors !
Toss them in the brig! It's the cat-o-tails for 'em when it's freezin' cold at dawn.

That's larn 'em to try to deceive His Majesty's Admiralty.

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2017, 08:00:46 AM »
Aye, Aye Sir ! That's one thing I do remember from my Sea Duty.
Put the writers of the " Manual For Lookouts "  and the Lookouts themselfs in the list of liars and conspiritors !
Toss them in the brig! It's the cat-o-tails for 'em when it's freezin' cold at dawn.

That's larn 'em to try to deceive His Majesty's Admiralty.

"And I kid you not ! " - Philip Francis Queeg, LCDR USN, Commanding Officer, USS Caine, DMS-18
« Last Edit: September 24, 2017, 08:08:54 AM by Googleotomy »
Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Chorus:
Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2017, 08:02:32 AM »
ITT: round earthers giving each other asspats.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2017, 12:49:52 PM »
Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
Yup, that horizon sure looks level to me:

Sun near setting at Weipa
   

Sunset at Weipa
   

Sun almost gone
You did notice that in the last picture the sun looks more like the top of a piramide than a circle.......did you ?  ;D

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2017, 01:37:35 PM »
Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
Yup, that horizon sure looks level to me:

Sun near setting at Weipa
   

Sunset at Weipa
   

Sun almost gone
You did notice that in the last picture the sun looks more like the top of a piramide than a circle.......did you ?  ;D
OMG!!  Sunsets are an Illuminati conspiracy.  :o
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2017, 02:08:31 PM »
You did notice that in the last picture the sun looks more like the top of a piramide than a circle.......did you ?  ;D
Sure, you can get all sorts of distortion when the sun is right on or partly behind the horizon:

25 - Sunset at Barnhill
   

26 - Sunset to North
   

28 - Almost Sunset

Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2017, 02:36:29 PM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2017, 02:38:09 PM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike

Googleotomy is a roundy, just like you.  ::)

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2017, 02:40:02 PM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike

I would like to invite you to study this model and tell me what you think?
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2017, 02:42:05 PM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike

Googleotomy is a roundy, just like you.  ::)
I didn't know that but my point on flat earth theory still stands.  I apologize to the TS for directing my comment at him/her.

Mike
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2017, 02:43:47 PM »
Googleotomy is a roundy, just like you.  ::)
:o I thought "Angry Globularist" was the term.  :o
::) Just like you? ::)

Signed Amused Globularist.

Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2017, 02:44:05 PM »

I would like to invite you to study this model and tell me what you think?
Wow, there's a lot there to digest.  It'll take some time to wade through all of that.  It looks interesting though.

Mike
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2017, 02:47:32 PM »

I would like to invite you to study this model and tell me what you think?
Wow, there's a lot there to digest.  It'll take some time to wade through all of that.  It looks interesting though.

Mike

Sounds good. Disregard the duplicate PM.
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2017, 03:24:40 PM »
I would like to invite you to study this model and tell me what you think?
You mean the  :D model  :D where John Davis deceptively claims Einstein's Relativity Proves The Earth is Flat.

Einstein's General Relativity does not prove that the Earth is Flat and to claim it does, as John Davis, is quite misleading.

Einstein's curved spacetime does not change the shape of the earth or even the apparent shape of the earth at all. The only change is a minute change in diameter (about 1 cm - big deal!).
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Our Local Spacetime
Now that we know what spacetime looks like far from the Earth, we’re ready to explore what it looks like near Earth. Our local spacetime is shown in figure 8.

Figure 8. The shape spacetime near Earth. The red arrow points towards the Earth,
the surface of which is a solid black tube. The blue arrow points into the future.

The lines parallel to the red arrow are lines of constant time, and the lines parallel to the blue arrow are lines of constant distance from the Earth. Notice that the surface of the Earth, the big solid black line, is not a point but a line. This is the worldline of the surface of the Earth. Notice also that the lines scrunch together as you approach the surface of the Earth. This is because lengths and durations are actually shrinking near the Earth. We age slightly slower at sea level than we do on an airplane. (This is related to the gravitational redshift I discussed in an older post.)

If it looks like that scrunching together would eventually lead to the lines of constant distance lying on top of each other, you’re right! If I made the surface of the Earth a smaller and smaller radius, then the lines would eventually lie on top of each other.

The rest in: The Physics Mill, Our Local Spacetime

I have pulled up John Davis a number of times for his deceptive claim the Einstein somehow validates his non-Euclideam model.
Einstein's General Relativity does no such thing and simply does not suggest any "curving" of this nature.

Undoubtedly he does this to give a totally untenable hypothesis a veneer of respectability when in reality it is no more than a thought experment.

It is worth noting that John Davis never really describes his "theory" nor shows what it would do. All he claims is that it "explains everything".

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2017, 04:38:00 PM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike

Googleotomy is a roundy, just like you.  ::)
I didn't know that but my point on flat earth theory still stands.  I apologize to the TS for directing my comment at him/her.

Mike

He was also a sailor and will bore you for hours about how his job in the navy was to stare at the horizon all day.

Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2017, 07:14:00 PM »
ITT: round earthers giving each other asspats.
😂😂😂

Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2017, 07:02:52 AM »
Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
Yup, that horizon sure looks level to me:

Sun near setting at Weipa
   

Sunset at Weipa
   

Sun almost gone
You did notice that in the last picture the sun looks more like the top of a piramide than a circle.......did you ?  ;D

and what do you take from that, how would that shape change work with your FlatEarthIdea?

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2017, 10:25:56 AM »
ITT: round earthers giving each other asspats.
Maybe you could remind them that this isn't that kind of site.
God is real.                                         
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2017, 10:32:03 AM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike

Googleotomy is a roundy, just like you.  ::)

And one who just visits this website for the fun of it.  :)
I think lots of people don't hate you, jroa
I think.......After all........Lots of people like "The Three Stooges" too. ::)
« Last Edit: September 25, 2017, 10:54:28 AM by Googleotomy »
Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2017, 11:17:03 AM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike

Googleotomy is a roundy, just like you.  ::)

And one who just visits this website for the fun of it.  :)
I think lots of people don't hate you, jroa
I think.......After all........Lots of people like "The Three Stooges" too. ::)

Just, please don't bore us with hours and hours of you telling us how you spent 2 and a half years at sea staring at the horizon.  Thanks. 

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2017, 11:36:20 AM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike

Googleotomy is a roundy, just like you.  ::)

And one who just visits this website for the fun of it.  :)
I think lots of people don't hate you, jroa
I think.......After all........Lots of people like "The Three Stooges" too. ::)

Just, please don't bore us with hours and hours of you telling us how you spent 2 and a half years at sea staring at the horizon.  Thanks.

Well......Very little of that 2 1/2 years Sea Duty was spent just "staring at the horizon."
That was just on the times after "knock off ship's work" was sounded. It was just a past time hobby, along with checking how far those things were on the radar.
They did keep us ET's, RD's and RM's  busy most of the time staring at the radios and radars to be sure it was working properly.

The lookouts did spend a lot of time "staring at the horizon".... That was part of their duties.....And they did know how to estimate the distance to the horizon according to their height above the level of the sea.....Because there is a curvature of the earth......Because the earth is a globe.

Oh.....And about the size of antennas for "Moon Bounce".Some of it is on the 144 MHZ band. That's a Wave Length of 2 Meters. A little less than "the size of a football field."
« Last Edit: September 25, 2017, 11:47:15 AM by Googleotomy »
Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Chorus:
Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !

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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2017, 11:40:55 AM »
Concerning the OP...

What are the odds that you Flat Earth believers are the victims of indoctrination, and brainwashing?


If it's RE that's wrong, we have been fooled by some of the greatest minds in history.

If FE is wrong, you have been duped by  YouTube!


I'll take my chances with the RE side.
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Re: The Problem With Round Earthers
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2017, 11:51:24 AM »
The problem with some, if not many, "Round Earthers" is that they have been indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or deluded into belieiving that the earth is some spherical,  or globe shaped planet, however very slightly "oblate" or "pear shaped "it might be. Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
 
They base their belief on lies which they call "facts and/or evidence" , a few examples of which are the following.:

The horizon, which is said to be the imaginary point were land or sea appears to meet the sky, :
The distance to this so-called "horizon" may be estimated by a simple magical formula.
A person standing at sea level, and looking out to sea is said to "see" the horizon at some 2 or 3 miles in the distance.
A person standing in a crow's nest, 90 or 100 feet above sea level, is said to be able to see some 10 or 12 miles in the distance.
Persons who are lookouts in the United States Navy , for just one example, have been taught that this is true.
But so they say.
But of course this is just a lie and part of the conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat.

They have also been so affected that even though that they believe that when they see only the top masts of a ship approaching them from a distance at first instead of seeing the whole ship for the whole time this is a result of this "curvature."








There are also those who work on subjects as the maximum range of some shipboard navy radars (The SG-1b Navy Radar System, for example)and those who work on the maximum spacing between repeater stations on a radar microwave system (used by the Federal Aviation Administration in The United States Of America for example ) base their lies on this "curvature" fallacy.

Just one more (of many more "Round Earth Lies") are from a group of amateur radio operators who claim to have performed a thing called "Moon Bounce."
They have claimed to have transmitted signals aimed at the moon !. LOL
They claimed to have received these signals back on earth after "bouncing them off the moon !
They claim that they have  estimated the distance to the moon from the earth as some 238, 150  miles.
Of course the distance is 3000 miles.
There are many other reason why these are just lies.
It would take an antenna the size of a football field to do this.
And of course, these people whose main activity is talking to truckers.
And just amateurs !

Just a few "Round Earth Lies"-versus-"Flat Earth Truths."
So you're saying that a person who believes the earth is round is incapable of independent, critical thought?  That such people are incapable of seeing the world around them?

Interesting approach to say that only those that believe in a flat earth are capable of seeing the truth.  I've been reading this and other sites on flat earth theory for months not.  I've watched every Youtube video I could find.  I've read even paper and even a book on the subject.  I have to tell you that what I've read and watched have only further proved to me the earth is round...or more correctly disproved the flat earth. 

The way I see it, there are to many insurmountable issues with flat earth theory for it be viable.  e.g. The flight distances and times between locations in the southern hemisphere, the different solar eclipse paths, or the fact that the sun must project some kind of goofy pear shaped pattern of light in order for sunlight to fall on locations in the northern and southern hemispheres at the same time matching what we observe on a daily basis. 

These are not things that we've been taught.  Those three examples are observable by anyone who cares to look.  They require not theory, no math, only observation. 

Resistance.Is.Futile has to talk about a completely un-observable, unverifiable black sun to explain the solar eclipse.  This is the kind of conjecture that makes it even harder to put any validity into flat earth theory.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but my belief in a globe is as much based on actual observation as it is what I've learned in school.

Mike

Googleotomy is a roundy, just like you.  ::)

And one who just visits this website for the fun of it.  :)
I think lots of people don't hate you, jroa
I think.......After all........Lots of people like "The Three Stooges" too. ::)

Just, please don't bore us with hours and hours of you telling us how you spent 2 and a half years at sea staring at the horizon.  Thanks.

Well......Very little of that 2 1/2 years Sea Duty was spent just "staring at the horizon."
That was just on the times after "knock off ship's work" was sounded. It was just a past time hobby, along with checking how far those things were on the radar.
They did keep us ET's, RD's and RM's  busy most of the time staring at the radios and radars to be sure it was working properly.

The lookouts did spend a lot of time "staring at the horizon".... That was part of their duties.....And they did know how to estimate the distance to the horizon according to their height above the level of the sea.....Because there is a curvature of the earth......Because the earth is a globe.

Oh.....And about the size of antennas for "Moon Bounce".Some of it is on the 144 MHZ band. That's a Wave Length of 2 Meters. A little less than "the size of a football field."

If you spent, let us say, 6 months at sea for every 6 months you spent at port, then your 2 and a halt years in the Navy would equal just over a year of sea service.  Just saying.