Convince me that the earth is flat

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Convince me that the earth is flat
« on: September 24, 2017, 08:48:52 AM »
Convince me that the earth is flat. Give me your best arguments

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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2017, 08:52:53 AM »
Shalom and welcome to the trenches.
The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

Scripture, facts, science, stats, and logic is how I argue.

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zork

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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2017, 08:58:18 AM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Crutchwater

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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2017, 02:19:13 PM »
Most here were convinced by youtube...

Also, it LOOKS flat!
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Son of Orospu

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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2017, 02:27:51 PM »
Convince me that the earth is flat. Give me your best arguments

Why do you think that everyone is so concerned about what you think?  Perhaps you think the round Earth revolves around you?  I think there is a psychological condition at play here...

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rabinoz

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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2017, 07:42:13 PM »
Most here were convinced by youtube...

Also, it LOOKS flat!
This help with the "it LOOKS flat!" bit?

Most of their belief is based on the fallacy of some fantasy called "the curvature of the earth." Of course, the earth is flat and there is one of this "curvature" at all !
Yup, that horizon sure looks level to me:

Sun near setting at Weipa
   

Sunset at Weipa
   

Sun almost gone

PS If you ask things like
Convince me that the earth is flat. Give me your best arguments
    You'll just get everyone try to "take the Mickey" out of you.
    Mind you IMHO, :P :P even the flatists don't have any good arguments!  :P :P

Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2017, 09:43:16 PM »
Convince me that the earth is flat. Give me your best arguments

Why do you think that everyone is so concerned about what you think?  Perhaps you think the round Earth revolves around you?  I think there is a psychological condition at play here...

Is it common for moderators to be rude when people ask for proof?
is that not the point of this forum for you to convince people?
The OP said nothing rude to you nor did he say anything contrary to your opinion, he may quite well be on the fence and honestly asking for evidence you people have to convince him of your theory
FE people have nothing to fear but sphere itself

Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2017, 11:45:04 PM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

This newish phenomenon of fake news coupled with pure unadulterated nonsense is pretty prevalent on this forum. The above statement when Zork claims some internet signals travel at six times light speed is a great example. No evidence is given, how could there be?, he just makes his claim as if it were true. He no doubt read about it on some site on the internet that deals in fake truth. The real and potentially serious problem is that some people, mainly the poorly educated like Zork, believe in it.

Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2017, 02:55:28 AM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

This newish phenomenon of fake news coupled with pure unadulterated nonsense is pretty prevalent on this forum. The above statement when Zork claims some internet signals travel at six times light speed is a great example. No evidence is given, how could there be?, he just makes his claim as if it were true. He no doubt read about it on some site on the internet that deals in fake truth. The real and potentially serious problem is that some people, mainly the poorly educated like Zork, believe in it.
Zork was referring to a claim Intikam made (one of your own, incidentally), not making a claim pf his own.  Good read lol.

Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2017, 07:23:20 AM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

True ! That's why internet optical fiber is very slow and ethernet wire so fast ... Conclusion : earth is flat

Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2017, 08:34:59 AM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

True ! That's why internet optical fiber is very slow and ethernet wire so fast ... Conclusion : earth is flat

Ethernet wire? do you mean copper telephone wires, Ethernet (category 5 wire with rj45 connectors) are used between router and pc if you use fiber optic lines to your home or the older copper wire lines. I am assuming your comment was a joke as fiber can go much faster than copper wire.
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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2017, 01:17:12 PM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

True ! That's why internet optical fiber is very slow and ethernet wire so fast ... Conclusion : earth is flat

Ethernet wire? do you mean copper telephone wires, Ethernet (category 5 wire with rj45 connectors) are used between router and pc if you use fiber optic lines to your home or the older copper wire lines. I am assuming your comment was a joke as fiber can go much faster than copper wire.
I assume he was making a joke, pointing out how the majority of the internet uses optic fibre, which uses light and thus it can't go faster than light.

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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2017, 01:22:26 PM »
Convince me that the earth is flat. Give me your best arguments

Try the "Debate" section.
Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Chorus:
Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !

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robintex

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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2017, 01:28:19 PM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

True ! That's why internet optical fiber is very slow and ethernet wire so fast ... Conclusion : earth is flat

Ethernet wire? do you mean copper telephone wires, Ethernet (category 5 wire with rj45 connectors) are used between router and pc if you use fiber optic lines to your home or the older copper wire lines. I am assuming your comment was a joke as fiber can go much faster than copper wire.
I assume he was making a joke, pointing out how the majority of the internet uses optic fibre, which uses light and thus it can't go faster than light.

Local telephone services here have replaced overhead copper wire lines with underground fiber optics for all telephone, cable television and internet services.
I have seen some fe comments that speed of radio waves is also b.s.
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Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Chorus:
Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !

Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2017, 11:47:13 PM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

True ! That's why internet optical fiber is very slow and ethernet wire so fast ... Conclusion : earth is flat

Ethernet wire? do you mean copper telephone wires, Ethernet (category 5 wire with rj45 connectors) are used between router and pc if you use fiber optic lines to your home or the older copper wire lines. I am assuming your comment was a joke as fiber can go much faster than copper wire.
I assume he was making a joke, pointing out how the majority of the internet uses optic fibre, which uses light and thus it can't go faster than light.

Local telephone services here have replaced overhead copper wire lines with underground fiber optics for all telephone, cable television and internet services.
I have seen some fe comments that speed of radio waves is also b.s.

I can believe that, What I would like to know which of them actually has the qualifications and research to prove it. My guess is none of them
FE people have nothing to fear but sphere itself

Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2017, 12:20:39 AM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

True ! That's why internet optical fiber is very slow and ethernet wire so fast ... Conclusion : earth is flat

Ethernet wire? do you mean copper telephone wires, Ethernet (category 5 wire with rj45 connectors) are used between router and pc if you use fiber optic lines to your home or the older copper wire lines. I am assuming your comment was a joke as fiber can go much faster than copper wire.
I assume he was making a joke, pointing out how the majority of the internet uses optic fibre, which uses light and thus it can't go faster than light.

Yes was Irony in reaction to the quoted sentence :)

Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2017, 12:38:53 AM »
From the best arguments presented by Intikam - the speed limit of light is a bullshit. Internet ping times between some lines are about 6 times faster than light speed.
 I just like the reasoning - speed limit of light is a bullshit so the earth is flat.

True ! That's why internet optical fiber is very slow and ethernet wire so fast ... Conclusion : earth is flat

Ethernet wire? do you mean copper telephone wires, Ethernet (category 5 wire with rj45 connectors) are used between router and pc if you use fiber optic lines to your home or the older copper wire lines. I am assuming your comment was a joke as fiber can go much faster than copper wire.
I assume he was making a joke, pointing out how the majority of the internet uses optic fibre, which uses light and thus it can't go faster than light.

Yes was Irony in reaction to the quoted sentence :)

It does not really matter if I quoted any sentence or not I did not remove anything relevant to my comment. please tell me which other comments was relevant? I have been on this site a few days now and all FE people do is knock everything possible yet have no problems using technology that was invented by science for communications. Oh and you did not respond to the point I mentioned about you being wrong about ethernet (category 5 cable) being used in every type of internet connection that uses a router. all a Ethernet cable does is bridge router to pc it does not bring the connection to your home
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JackBlack

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Re: Convince me that the earth is flat
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2017, 01:19:16 AM »
Oh and you did not respond to the point I mentioned about you being wrong about ethernet (category 5 cable) being used in every type of internet connection that uses a router. all a Ethernet cable does is bridge router to pc it does not bring the connection to your home
Since you don't want to just accept it was a joke and move on and seem intent on dwelling on this crap:
YOU'RE WRONG!
You can get fibre optic routers and fibre optic network cards. You can also get (or at least could) get modems for a PC.
As such you can easily get the internet without any cat 5 cables.

Also, ethernet does not refer to the cable. It refers primarily to the data structure.
You can have ethernet over optic fibre, ethernet over coaxial cable, ethernet over twisted pair (e.g. cat 5 or cat 6 cables, typically with 8P8C connectors, which are not RJ45, that is a different standard), and depending upon how you have it set up, you can even have wireless ethernet.

Ethernet defines the data link layer, that is how the data is structured with various bits and bytes. It does not define the physical layer, as such any physical layer can be used.
Similarly, you can also use cat 5 cables for a variety of interfaces, not just ethernet. For example, some serial communications, like RS485 will use cat 5 cables. ADSL can also be carried over cat-5 cables, without being ethernet.

Regardless, that still doesn't address what he actually said.
He didn't say the internet comes to the computer without using ethernet cables.
Instead he said the fibre optic internet is slower than ethernet.
For most users, this will be the case.
They have fibre optic internet which goes to their router. This is typically a relatively slow connection varying from 10s to 100s (and occasionally up to 1000) Mb/s.
Conversely, ethernet routers are typically 1000 Mb/s, and if not, they will almost certainly be 100 Mb/s or faster.

As such, the typical home internet setup has a fast internal ethernet with a much slower internet.