Mind Control

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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2008, 10:42:49 AM »
Yeah, I seem to remember Blair looking for public support on this issue, got none, and said, "fuck it, I'm doing it anyway."

Nothing to do with our people, just the government.

However, I will remain on the fence about Gordon Brown for now.
Asides usual political waffle a PM says and never does, he did tell Bush he wasn't being his bitch like the last PM, so he's better than Blair on that note.


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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2008, 11:09:44 AM »
its called capatilism my friend

I have always noted that in this forum but no one lsitens, comrade.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2008, 11:22:05 AM »
Communism didnt work during the Cold War as it wasnt implemented properly.

Sadly, communism can only be applied affectively if the general populace agrees within a common concensus that their wants and needs are supplied are satisfactory.  An iron-fist regime like the soviets are not communists, but a fascist state controlled by an elite oligarchy.  Communism succeeds only within small communities.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2008, 11:25:51 AM »
Hmmm ok first of all Slavery does not work, it is uneconomical, the Romans realised it, the British realised it and the Americans realised it.


First of all if you have slavery it takes jobs away from "free" men, secondly slaves are generally demotivated, and finally, the most important reason, is that with slaves you have a duty of care to feed and house them. With an employee you pay them pittance and they have to fight for whatever scraps they can.


Don't let anyone tell you that Lincoln abolished slavery because he was a good man, he did it for economical and political reasons (economical that i listed above, and politcally he wanted to weaken the south).

So thinking that Capitilism will end in a return to slavery is naive.


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Middle Ages Europe

Most of Middle Earth

err middle earth? what/when is middle earth? i assume he is not talking about Tolkien.

anyway in the Middle ages he with the biggest sword and the most friends was the one who was the "owner" and he simply divided out his "property" amongst those that fought for him. that would be the feudal system.


but enough talk about this Distributism which in my eyes seem pretty Marxist but with religion (i believe the term is a Theocracy?)


this topic is about Mind Control, not on political beliefs which there are hunderds of posts in this forum about already.

I concur. Slavery was only a temporary measure in the above mentioned societies, primary as a means to control a concurred population or if there was a lack of workforce that occured on the Dutch sugar plantations.  The current system has been replaced with outsourcing and contracting.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2008, 11:32:14 AM »
all the same, totalitarian governments like that crush invention and creativity, it would stagnate the world, never mind that mind control would also crush invention and creativity.... unless the worlds power is concentrated into one man this would not work, because if it were two men, they are both going to be afraid of the other taking his power, therefore he will need bigger and better weaponary, etc.


Also the economic cost of keeping a significant part of the world under "mind control" would probably be very large. Which is probably why the world powers opt for a more general passive mind control as they do now via propaganda and the media.

I believe governments implemented mind control to obtain information; a tool for espionage.  I doubt they planned on implementing it on a grander scale.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2008, 11:50:55 AM »
Your opinion has nothing to back it. Take some .44 caliber aspirin and get back to me in the morning.

I prefer the metric system.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2008, 11:52:12 AM »
Your opinion has nothing to back it. Take some .44 caliber aspirin and get back to me in the morning.
Mids impregnated himself? :o

Raist is Midnight?  Why wasn't I informed?
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2008, 01:23:39 PM »
Democracy is the most disguised, the most inverse of what it purports to be, and has aalways been the most degenerate form of goernment. 

Dionysius is right.  Democratic Athens became an imperial nation that took advantage of the Delian League and often opposed free thinking individuals - such as Socrates - comdemning them to death or exile.  Similarities occur by the Roman Republic.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2008, 01:29:10 PM »
But, hey, I'm making all this up.

You, comrade, are a proponent of mind control.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2008, 01:43:10 PM »
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2008, 01:48:00 PM »
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!

too long; didnt read
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2008, 02:15:23 PM »
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!

too long; didnt read
Do you have any evidence to support your spurious claims?

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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #72 on: February 05, 2008, 06:02:06 PM »
Your opinion has nothing to back it. Take some .44 caliber aspirin and get back to me in the morning.
Mids impregnated himself? :o

Raist is Midnight?  Why wasn't I informed?
But I am you! So we are three people. w00t.

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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2008, 06:02:56 PM »
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!

too long; didnt read
Do you have any evidence to support your spurious claims?
The lack of his response having to do with the last post is proof.

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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #74 on: February 06, 2008, 07:30:31 AM »
I can control minds. I am Matt Parkman.
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #75 on: February 06, 2008, 09:34:20 AM »
I can control minds. I am Matt Parkman.

HA! I was the one that made you type that.
Yes, quite.  No one would ever claim to be someone they're not in their profile name.

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« Reply #76 on: February 06, 2008, 09:34:54 AM »
No, you just think you were. I made you think it.
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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« Reply #77 on: February 06, 2008, 11:27:22 AM »
No, you just think you were. I made you think it.

Then it is as I have foreseen.
Yes, quite.  No one would ever claim to be someone they're not in their profile name.

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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2008, 11:32:41 AM »
Is this forum turning... into a heroes debate?
duh...duh...duh....
another good ability- the power to change the script.
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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2008, 05:26:56 PM »
A better ability, to type with one hand. ;)

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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2008, 05:38:09 PM »
Yes, it prevents cigarette burns on the keyboard.

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Re: Mind Control
« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2008, 05:40:05 PM »
Ah cigarettes.......