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Do you understand what "automated multi-platform malware attack and control systems" means dno? I don't mean to sound rude.

It's not a conspiracy theory that this is used on the american people.

Quote from: disputeone on September 11, 2017, 03:31:05 AM

Do you understand what "automated multi-platform malware attack and control systems" means dno? I don't mean to sound rude.

It's not a conspiracy theory that this is used on the american people.

Yes. It is automated, it works on many platforms, it attacks systems using malware and controls them. Not very surprising. What it's actually used for exactly and on whom you don't know.

Quote from: crutonius on September 10, 2017, 11:44:56 PM

Quote from: disputeone on September 10, 2017, 07:06:37 PM

All this information is coming from wikileaks.

I am not aware of any connection between wikileaks and any channel. 2, 4, 6, 8 or 12.

The problem is you've got a bunch of very technical data but menacing sounding data.  What you don't have is it's context though.  Which is a tricky thing because it requires a lot of research.  Instead what you've done is adapted it into your worldview without thinking critically.

I hate it when people do that.
Let's both try to do less of it in the future.

To be totally honest however, I think the context speaks for itself on this quote.

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The CIA has developed automated multi-platform malware attack and control systems covering Windows, Mac OS X, Solaris, Linux and more, such as EDB's "HIVE" and the related "Cutthroat" and "Swindle" tools

Could you tell me what context that would be fine with you? Forgive me if I'm wrong but my impression was that this is the first time you've seen these leaks.

Quote from: disputeone on September 11, 2017, 01:20:12 AM

Quote from: crutonius on September 10, 2017, 11:44:56 PM

Quote from: disputeone on September 10, 2017, 07:06:37 PM

All this information is coming from wikileaks.

I am not aware of any connection between wikileaks and any channel. 2, 4, 6, 8 or 12.

The problem is you've got a bunch of very technical data but menacing sounding data.  What you don't have is it's context though.  Which is a tricky thing because it requires a lot of research.  Instead what you've done is adapted it into your worldview without thinking critically.

I hate it when people do that.
Let's both try to do less of it in the future.

To be totally honest however, I think the context speaks for itself on this quote.

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The CIA has developed automated multi-platform malware attack and control systems covering Windows, Mac OS X, Solaris, Linux and more, such as EDB's "HIVE" and the related "Cutthroat" and "Swindle" tools

Could you tell me what context that would be fine with you? Forgive me if I'm wrong but my impression was that this is the first time you've seen these leaks.

As DNO and Razor have pointed out, we have a cyber warfare division of the military.  This cyber warfare division develops tools to carry out - wait for it - cyber warfare.  Or here's a Simpson's clip that explains it more entertainingly.



So they have these tools.  Have they abused them, yes?  The public found out.  There was an uproar.  More checks and balanced were put into place to curb that abuse.  Eventually they'll abuse them again and there will be pressured to get it under control again.  This is pretty much how government has always operated.  Like a shitty car it's something we always have to put work into maintaining.

Like a shitty car it's something we always have to put work into maintaining.

Speaking of guns, (well you were before)  the government has lots of them, I wonder who they are going to shoot?

Quote from: crutonius on September 11, 2017, 06:05:31 AM

Like a shitty car it's something we always have to put work into maintaining.

Buy a new car. You owe it to yourselves. You've been saving up a long time and are a very rich country. You deserve a shiny new car.

Quote from: Rayzor on September 11, 2017, 05:16:40 AM

Speaking of guns, (well you were before)  the government has lots of them, I wonder who they are going to shoot?

The baddies right Rayzor? Those baddies they warn us about on TV before we invade them? We're the goodies aren't we buddy?

jroa makes a good point, how does the government bust people using tor and crypto Crutonius?

a new car ceases to be a new car after the first day.

It was only a few months ago that a guy went before a court for drug dealing/peado pics/something else "protected' by the Tor network.  The evidence was plain and simple, except that the government would not disclose how they broke through the smokescreen.  The judge let him go.

I think we can all agree that the government knows what you are doing online, even if they can't get a conviction because they can not disclose their methods.

It was only a few months ago that a guy went before a court for drug dealing/peado pics/something else "protected' by the Tor network.  The evidence was plain and simple, except that the government would not disclose how they broke through the smokescreen.  The judge let him go.

I think we can all agree that the government knows what you are doing online, even if they can't get a conviction because they can not disclose their methods.

"Checks and balances" are for the little people only now days.

If one insists on doing things on the darknet that he wants to be kept secret, he might consider using Tails.  At least you would not have to worry so much about leaving footprints on your computer.

Quote from: jroa on September 25, 2017, 11:45:51 AM

The NCIS is watching you.

But what if I'm watching them?

Quote from: jroa on September 25, 2017, 11:45:51 AM

The NCIS is watching you.

But what if I'm watching them?

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on September 24, 2017, 03:30:06 PM

I memba when 8chan was the new home of Gamergate.

I don't, but I guess that must have been the golden age of 8chan

Anyway, I got myself a darknet-to-do-list:

1) Find an undercover cop and ask him some questions about his job & what he encounters, what his view on the darknet are, why he does such a job etc.

2) Ask some cp-leechers about their morals and maybe confront them with some ethical issues, if one of them is willing to talk.

3) Find some politically extreme (preferably left) forum (that isn't a chan).

4) If you have any ideas, please tell me