I have a question i find interesting

If God created us. Why woukd he cast satan in this bubble with us...
Think about it.. if you created something so precious why would you put something in there with it to spoil it???

AnD hey im new i can see all the bots everywhere so annoying...... grew up in colombia and throughout all elementary i really cant remember them saying anything about space actually..... 

Also why cant anyone just send a rover w. Video camera to withstand cold temperatures over the ice wall if there is one....? W. A camera connected to satellite...... 

Also why cant anyone just send a rover w. Video camera to withstand cold temperatures over the ice wall if there is one....? W. A camera connected to satellite...... 

Flat Earthers don't believe satellites are real.  To them, they are fake.  The reason nobody has seen the great ice wall is, there isn't one.      And... the Flat Earthers believe it is guarded by NASA spooks or something.

Yeah.. you have wandered into a whole other place on this site 

If God created us. Why woukd he cast satan in this bubble with us...
Think about it.. if you created something so precious why would you put something in there with it to spoil it???

AnD hey im new i can see all the bots everywhere so annoying...... grew up in colombia and throughout all elementary i really cant remember them saying anything about space actually..... 

Also why cant anyone just send a rover w. Video camera to withstand cold temperatures over the ice wall if there is one....? W. A camera connected to satellite...... 

As Really pointed out you have entered a realm of denial and crackpots. Ill try to catch you up on some of what the flat earthers believe.

-The earth is flat with a dome prison covering it with an ice wall at the edge
-There is a global conspiracy to hide the flat earth involving billions of people
-The sun and moon are much smaller and only 3,000 miles away and under the dome
-All land,sea and air navigation using a global map is a lie
-GPS (global positioning system) is a lie
-Compasses lie
-Gravity isnt real
-Space isnt real
-Satellites are not real
-The stars and planets are painted on the dome or some form of projection
-Eclipses are caused by other objects like a black sun
-Meteors are fake
-UFOs are demons or something
-All telescopes are designed to fake a CGI space
-All space pictures and video are faked or CGI
-NASA and the United Nations are the muscle of the conspiracy to keep the secret
-The edge is guarded by NASA and the UN with 10,000 ships/submarines,air force and hundreds of thousands of personnel so you cant reach the edge
-All the nukes we launched and detonated in high altitude were an attempt to destroy the dome
-Science is a lie and its a religion

This list could go on forever but thats a good start. Welcome to Wonderland Alice!

The true wonderland is probably outside the realm of known Flatland

If you happen to visit it Grizz please report back

Quote from: Lula on August 26, 2017, 11:27:53 PM

If God created us. Why woukd he cast satan in this bubble with us...
Think about it.. if you created something so precious why would you put something in there with it to spoil it???

AnD hey im new i can see all the bots everywhere so annoying...... grew up in colombia and throughout all elementary i really cant remember them saying anything about space actually..... 

Also why cant anyone just send a rover w. Video camera to withstand cold temperatures over the ice wall if there is one....? W. A camera connected to satellite...... 

As Really pointed out you have entered a realm of denial and crackpots. Ill try to catch you up on some of what the flat earthers believe.

-The earth is flat with a dome prison covering it with an ice wall at the edge
-There is a global conspiracy to hide the flat earth involving billions of people
-The sun and moon are much smaller and only 3,000 miles away and under the dome
-All land,sea and air navigation using a global map is a lie
-GPS (global positioning system) is a lie
-Compasses lie
-Gravity isnt real
-Space isnt real
-Satellites are not real
-The stars and planets are painted on the dome or some form of projection
-Eclipses are caused by other objects like a black sun
-Meteors are fake
-UFOs are demons or something
-All telescopes are designed to fake a CGI space
-All space pictures and video are faked or CGI
-NASA and the United Nations are the muscle of the conspiracy to keep the secret
-The edge is guarded by NASA and the UN with 10,000 ships/submarines,air force and hundreds of thousands of personnel so you cant reach the edge
-All the nukes we launched and detonated in high altitude were an attempt to destroy the dome
-Science is a lie and its a religion

This list could go on forever but thats a good start. Welcome to Wonderland Alice!

And the funny thing is, they can not prove any of this claims. Not even a single one.

Quote from: Lula on August 26, 2017, 11:27:53 PM

If God created us. Why woukd he cast satan in this bubble with us...
Think about it.. if you created something so precious why would you put something in there with it to spoil it???

AnD hey im new i can see all the bots everywhere so annoying...... grew up in colombia and throughout all elementary i really cant remember them saying anything about space actually..... 

Also why cant anyone just send a rover w. Video camera to withstand cold temperatures over the ice wall if there is one....? W. A camera connected to satellite...... 

As Really pointed out you have entered a realm of denial and crackpots. Ill try to catch you up on some of what the flat earthers believe.

-The earth is flat with a dome prison covering it with an ice wall at the edge
-There is a global conspiracy to hide the flat earth involving billions of people
-The sun and moon are much smaller and only 3,000 miles away and under the dome
-All land,sea and air navigation using a global map is a lie
-GPS (global positioning system) is a lie
-Compasses lie
-Gravity isnt real
-Space isnt real
-Satellites are not real
-The stars and planets are painted on the dome or some form of projection
-Eclipses are caused by other objects like a black sun
-Meteors are fake
-UFOs are demons or something
-All telescopes are designed to fake a CGI space
-All space pictures and video are faked or CGI
-NASA and the United Nations are the muscle of the conspiracy to keep the secret
-The edge is guarded by NASA and the UN with 10,000 ships/submarines,air force and hundreds of thousands of personnel so you cant reach the edge
-All the nukes we launched and detonated in high altitude were an attempt to destroy the dome
-Science is a lie and its a religion

This list could go on forever but thats a good start. Welcome to Wonderland Alice!

Sums it up pretty good.

Cypher: I know what you're thinking, 'cause right now I'm thinking the same thing. Actually, I've been thinking it ever since I got here: Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

I agree, that's the one full of cyanide.

Globeheads can't prove a single one of their points either, can't find a shred of curvature anywhere on the planet, can't for the life of them seem to demonstrate that they are spinning around... yet here we are in 2017 having to talk to clueless globeheads, many of which think the moon's phases are caused by the earth's shadow and don't even know how their own model works!

Not a shred of proof for any of the globe claims! And here they are trumpeting that they know where they actually live! Really feel sorry for some of you guys that are so gullible, probably thinking life just spontaneously arose out of nowhere as well because science magicians told you so, and that the whole universe just *popped* into existence from a magic atom! Bet you can't tell me what made it decide to pop into existence, was it bored and suicidal with its past life? Maybe thought it was time for a change after sitting on the couch too long and watching too much TV that it had to escape its past universe and POP start a new one?

Gotta love people that are so sure of their worldview and believe they know for a fact what happened millions and billions of years ago. Despite there being not a single shred of believable evidence anywhere for the age of the earth. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a few hundred years old myself, if it wasn't just warped into existence when I was born (simulation theory). Because unlike all the clueless globe-sheep-heads, I don't pretend to know things that are outside the realm of my own observation and experience and don't tend to trust governments that have been proven to lie time and time again on the biggest and most significant events.

Would the shape and nature of the earth not be something to lie about, for more control over the people that live on it? You guys don't think anything like that is possible! Unbelievable how confident some of you are in assertions that are impossible and unprovable and go directly against the nature of your own senses and observations, and are so quick to trust what mainstream science and governments tell you! Like a good, well-behaved little sheep.

Globeheads can't prove a single one of their points either, can't find a shred of curvature anywhere on the planet,

can't for the life of them seem to demonstrate that they are spinning around...

Then there are numerous "minor" things like Foucault Pendulums, marine Gyro-compasses, Gyro-theodolites, Ring-Laser Gyros, the Coriolis Effect, etc, etc.

yet here we are in 2017 having to talk to clueless globeheads, many of which think the moon's phases are caused by the earth's shadow

No! "the moon's phases . . . caused by the earth's shadow" is what flat earth ignoramuses like Jeranism claim!

and don't even know how their own model works!

No! That is flat earth ignoramuses not understand the simplest things about the Heliocentric Globe!

Not a shred of proof for any of the globe claims!

So you claim, then you claim that any trace of evidence disproving your Precious Pizza Planet is automatically fake, simply because it disproves your Precious Pizza Planet.

And here they are trumpeting that they know where they actually live! Really feel sorry for some of you guys that are so gullible, probably thinking life just spontaneously arose out of nowhere as well because science magicians told you so, and that the whole universe just *popped* into existence from a magic atom! Bet you can't tell me what made it decide to pop into existence, was it bored and suicidal with its past life? Maybe thought it was time for a change after sitting on the couch too long and watching too much TV that it had to escape its past universe and POP start a new one?

What has the method of creation got to do with the shape of the earth? Nothing!

More later when I have a couple of minutes to spare!

Globeheads can't prove a single one of their points either, can't find a shred of curvature anywhere on the planet, can't for the life of them seem to demonstrate that they are spinning around... yet here we are in 2017 having to talk to clueless globeheads, many of which think the moon's phases are caused by the earth's shadow and don't even know how their own model works!

This is literally a bold face lie! Flat earthers just keep denying proven facts

Not a shred of proof for any of the globe claims! And here they are trumpeting that they know where they actually live! Really feel sorry for some of you guys that are so gullible, probably thinking life just spontaneously arose out of nowhere as well because science magicians told you so, and that the whole universe just *popped* into existence from a magic atom! Bet you can't tell me what made it decide to pop into existence, was it bored and suicidal with its past life? Maybe thought it was time for a change after sitting on the couch too long and watching too much TV that it had to escape its past universe and POP start a new one?

Sure the big bang is just a theory but it wouldnt be magic it would of been the blueprints of the universe created by god if you like. Whats makes your FE claims of a magic sky wizard creating a snow globe prison to keep us in like pets any more believable? An infinite and grand universe god would be way more powerful and creative than a small minded petty FE god that thinks very small.

Gotta love people that are so sure of their worldview and believe they know for a fact what happened millions and billions of years ago. Despite there being not a single shred of believable evidence anywhere for the age of the earth. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a few hundred years old myself, if it wasn't just warped into existence when I was born (simulation theory). Because unlike all the clueless globe-sheep-heads, I don't pretend to know things that are outside the realm of my own observation and experience and don't tend to trust governments that have been proven to lie time and time again on the biggest and most significant events.

This just shows the retardation of some flat earthers. You think the world is only a few hundred years old OMG! Even though we have human records going back several thousand years. Plus cave art that is tens of thousands of years old. Not mention what we have learned from investigative research AKA science!

Would the shape and nature of the earth not be something to lie about, for more control over the people that live on it? You guys don't think anything like that is possible! Unbelievable how confident some of you are in assertions that are impossible and unprovable and go directly against the nature of your own senses and observations, and are so quick to trust what mainstream science and governments tell you! Like a good, well-behaved little sheep.

There is absolutely no reason to lie about something like this. If the exploration of the world would of proved a flat earth under a dome it would of been just the way it is. If anything a FE under a dome allows for even more control of the population.

See the fact that you say there would be "absolutely no reason to lie about this" shows how small your thinking is on the matter. There would be numerous reasons to lie about it, including undermining everyone's reality. The fact that you or I have no clue where we really live means we can't even really fathom what other reasons there might be - we are unaware of a huge number of things that are being hidden from us. We can't even begin to fathom the scope of stuff that is hidden from us.

What's that phrase, knowledge is power?

My point with the age of earth is that I don't know how old it is, but don't take such an oddly specific answer like "4.6 billion years" to be anything but complete and utter bullshit. I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a few hundred years, not that I thought it was. It could be 50 thousand years old, 50 million years old, or hell, 50 trillion for all I know.

Rabinoz, I've seen that vid or whatever and sorry but I don't take it to be anything other than bullshit. Get up in a plane and you will see there is no curvature on any stretch of bridge of any length imaginable. Nobody has ever observed a curving body of water, and never will as far as I'm concerned but we will agree to disagree because it is not a point worth arguing on the flat earth society (or is it the round earth society, hard to tell these days).

See the fact that you say there would be "absolutely no reason to lie about this" shows how small your thinking is on the matter. There would be numerous reasons to lie about it, including undermining everyone's reality. The fact that you or I have no clue where we really live means we can't even really fathom what other reasons there might be - we are unaware of a huge number of things that are being hidden from us. We can't even begin to fathom the scope of stuff that is hidden from us.

What would be there to gain from"undermining everyone's reality"? Dont say NASA,capitalism or anything to do with modern day money/power because the ancient world didnt have those things yet. It was ruled by religion and kings who had all the money/power and didnt share it. If early exploration would of shown a flat earth the religions and leaders would of been all over it and used it for guaranteed control since it would of proved some form of a god using the earth like a game board. So your statement and belief is back words if control is the motivation.

First of all you know nothing about the ancient world, since you weren't there (or were you?). You know only what is taught in textbooks and discussed on conspiracy sites, like me. And that has nothing to do with the globe earth anyway which was supposedly introduced around 500 years ago, and how those morons bought into it is beyond me.

Second, since you seem so well versed in flat earth arguments, why don't you repeat back to me some of the reasons you've found for the lie? Maybe you can even come up with some new ones?

See the fact that you say there would be "absolutely no reason to lie about this" shows how small your thinking is on the matter. There would be numerous reasons to lie about it, including undermining everyone's reality. The fact that you or I have no clue where we really live means we can't even really fathom what other reasons there might be - we are unaware of a huge number of things that are being hidden from us. We can't even begin to fathom the scope of stuff that is hidden from us.

Since you are unaware what is being hidden from you, it could amount to nothing, yes?

My point with the age of earth is that I don't know how old it is, but don't take such an oddly specific answer like "4.6 billion years" to be anything but complete and utter bullshit. I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a few hundred years, not that I thought it was. It could be 50 thousand years old, 50 million years old, or hell, 50 trillion for all I know.

Your assertion of your own ignorance (which I don't doubt) does not reflect on other people's knowledge. And the option remains open to you to educate yourself.

First of all you know nothing about the ancient world, since you weren't there (or were you?). You know only what is taught in textbooks and discussed on conspiracy sites, like me. And that has nothing to do with the globe earth anyway which was supposedly introduced around 500 years ago, and how those morons bought into it is beyond me.

Second, since you seem so well versed in flat earth arguments, why don't you repeat back to me some of the reasons you've found for the lie? Maybe you can even come up with some new ones?

So now your implying all/most corroborated evidence, documentation and verbal histories are false. 500 years ago all the countries of the world were ruled by religion, kings, queens, emperors, warlords, etc and they didnt share power. And the leaders used religion as its main tool of control. Proof of a flat earth would of guaranteed an even more powerful control of the world using religion which is the way most of history worked until modern times. So to imply that the heliocentric model created a better way to control the world is just BS because the old ways worked better for them.

The top two FE arguments for hiding a flat earth as told by flat earth believers are. NASA makes easy paydays from tax money and the United Nations uses it as control. Both of which did not exist 65 years ago let alone 500 years ago. You dont need more examples to debunk the whole control thing than those.

This is why when humans started doing everything they could to find answers to everything was one of the greatest steps forward in progress. The greatest tool humans ever created to help them do that is science. Using science to try and explain a belief is great but you can never dismiss what you find out because it goes against your hardcore belief when that belief is discredited by proven facts.

Ill give you a little example of belief vs science. Back in the dark ages through to the colonial days christians and others use to think when you sneezed it meant a demon was trying to posses your body and your soul was trying to fight it off. Thats where the Phrase "bless you" came into being used for someone who sneezed. Then some doctors and scientists discovered the real reason we sneeze and people stopped believing its was demons.

When facts out way a belief thats has no facts to support it just like the flat earth theory, known proven facts win every time. I will not tell you stop trying to find the facts to support a flat earth because if thats how you want to spend your time so be it. But as of this minute the flat earth theory has zero facts to support it. The only evidence FErs have brought to the table so far are based on belief, perception, and flawed experiments and data that omit many known and proven facts that discredit it.

See the fact that you say there would be "absolutely no reason to lie about this" shows how small your thinking is on the matter. There would be numerous reasons to lie about it, including undermining everyone's reality.

But why lie specifically about the shape of the earth?

The fact that you or I have no clue where we really live means we can't even really fathom what other reasons there might be

You might have no idea, but you can't speak for me or others!

- we are unaware of a huge number of things that are being hidden from us. We can't even begin to fathom the scope of stuff that is hidden from us.

What logic!
If "we are unaware of a huge number of things that are being hidden from us" how can you claim "a huge number of things that are being hidden from us".

What's that phrase, knowledge is power?

My point with the age of earth is that I don't know how old it is, but don't take such an oddly specific answer like "4.6 billion years" to be anything but complete and utter bullshit.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with the shape of the earth!

I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a few hundred years, not that I thought it was.

You may admit to total ignorance!
On the other hand, I am prepared to accept some of the recorded history, especially when there a number of sources for it and archeological evidence backing even that up.

It could be 50 thousand years old, 50 million years old, or hell, 50 trillion for all I know.

It might be! And it might have been created exactly as we see it  "last Thursday"  see Last Thursdayism.

Rabinoz, I've seen that vid or whatever and sorry but I don't take it to be anything other than bullshit. Get up in a plane and you will see there is no curvature on any stretch of bridge of any length imaginable.

What possible connection is there between "Getting up in a plane" and "seeing there is no curvature on any stretch of bridge of any length imaginable".
In case you hadn't  heard it before, the Globe is huge!

Nobody has ever observed a curving body of water, and never will as far as I'm concerned

Maybe you haven't, but I find even this evidence of "curved water"! You might wonder at that, but simply the fact of a sharp sea-air boundary is evidence of a near horizon, only a few kilometers away.
And how do I know that? From these photos taken from the same place.
The left photo below is taken with the camera about 50 cm above water level.
That beacon is known to be 2.6 km away and on the horizon and guess what?
Ignoring any possible refraction, the curve calculator gives: Horizon = 2.52 km and  Hidden= 0 meters.
The right-hand photo taken from about 3 m above water level, the horizon is well past the beacon.
Those simple photos are, to me, very good evidence of "curved water".
It the water were not curved the horizon would be distant and blurred by the blue haze we see from a higher altitude from mountains and aircraft.

On the horizon you have undoubtedly seen this, but " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Proving the Earth is not Flat - Part 1 - The Horizon.
It does explain why the horizon looks flat - because the horizon is flat!

but we will agree to disagree because it is not a point worth arguing on the flat earth society (or is it the round earth society, hard to tell these days).

Yes, "we will agree to disagree", but if it wasn't for us terribly gullible  Globularists
If our posts offend your delicate sensibilities,

It might be! And it might have been created exactly as we see it  "last Thursday"  see Last Thursdayism.

OMG ROTFL I have never seen that before that made my night RAB

The reality is, earth doesn't spin or move. I will let you guys know when it starts spinning, I'm sure we will all feel it. Just don't hold your breath! Could it be a globe? Unlikely. Could it be moving? Unlikely. These are apparently DANGEROUS suggestions though in all places such as the flat earth society! Gotta be careful with these words and ideas... dangerous, dangerous ideas...

RAB I did notice something you said earlier about jeranism thinking the moon's phases are caused by the earth's shadow? Got a link? I am impressed you know some flat earth youtubers as well, must be a big fan 

Well...

There ARE all those pesky photographs and videos of our spinning globe...

But I suppose every single one of them is fake, right?

Yes, unless you're incredibly gullible.

Yes, unless you're incredibly gullible.

Sorry, but you've been misled.

I know it must hurt, but you're wrong about a great many things.

The reality is, earth doesn't spin or move. I will let you guys know when it starts spinning, I'm sure we will all feel it.

So you have factual proof to present us with measured and tested data confirmed by real accredited professional scientists right? Not some backyard hillbilly with a camera on youtube because they dont count lol
Are you a physicist?
Are you an astronomer?
Maybe your an oceanographer who studies the ocean currents caused by the earths spin?
How about a geophysicist that studies plate tectonic movements caused by the earths spin?
What about an atmospheric scientist that studies wind currents from the earths spin?

Maybe your just someone that uses his belief and only perception to conclude the earth doesn't rotate.
Yep thats definitely the one!

The reality is, earth doesn't spin or move. I will let you guys know when it starts spinning, I'm sure we will all feel it.

How are you sure we will feel it? What if it starts spinning really slowly and gradually builds up speed? At what point will we feel it?

The reason I mentioned it is I have now talked to 4 people IRL who have told me that the moon's phases are caused by the earth's shadow lol. Normal people, not flat earthers or even conspiracy theorists. I'm starting to think most people are just clueless idiots when it comes to some things...

As a suggestion: Try to hide the big fat "FLATTARD" sign on your forehead when you try to talk to people to avoid the dumb ones.   

Rip Riley

Yet another arrogant clueless fuckwit.

Tell me this, why cant we see the sun at night, event though it is supposed to be the same size as the moon, and at the same distance, yet it is much brighter than the moon - BUT we can see the moon in the day.

Why, because the earth is a rotating globe an the night sky is on the OTHER side, facing away.

Give me a fuckwit answer.

Resorting to ad hominems? Wow.

Resorting to ad hominems? Wow.

When you spout such nonsense, what would you expect?

The Earth is proven to be a spinning sphere.

If anything all the globe-heads astroturfing on this forum should instantly cause ANYBODY to suspect that the earth is flat.

Well done guys.

I hope millions more become flat earthers thanks to your presence here, start waking up and questioning where they really live. And flat earth is probably just the least of our concerns in this world.

If anything all the globe-heads astroturfing on this forum should instantly cause ANYBODY to suspect that the earth is flat.

Well done guys.

I hope millions more become flat earthers thanks to your presence here, start waking up and questioning where they really live. And flat earth is probably just the least of our concerns in this world.

You mean watching YouTube in their step dad's basement??

If anything all the globe-heads astroturfing on this forum should instantly cause ANYBODY to suspect that the earth is flat.

Well done guys.

I hope millions more become flat earthers thanks to your presence here, start waking up and questioning where they really live. And flat earth is probably just the least of our concerns in this world.

The world population is about 7.5 billion people. It is estimated that there are 3-7 million flat earth believers. Thats means FErs make up less than one tenth (1/10) of 1% of the current world population. So the most people ever alive at one time out numbers everyone added up in the entire history of man. Yet flat earthers still make up only an extremely microscopic fraction of it.

With all the awesome modern day tools, inventions and knowledge you cant prove 1 single thing about your theory so I dont think another million flattards with tip the scales in your favor lol.