What is the origin of earth?

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Re: What is the origin of earth?
« Reply #120 on: August 15, 2017, 06:57:13 AM »

You say accidentally like it is a bad thing  ::)

Many things were created by accident, popsicles, even babies (everyone in this forum might have been an accidents tho :P)
I meant accidentally as in ''highly improbable''.

some accidents are indeed accidents, like making a baby, but some cosmic accidents are impossible when you try to wrap your head around the currently supported hypothesis.
More so,....they are getting absurder every decade.........if we follow the evolution of our universe back in time we get an infinite density and infinitly strong gravity into a singularity that causes all current equations and models to collaps.

Something is not right here.....or should i say improbable ?  ;D
Back to the drawing board,....or like i do, live by faith ?

I see no problem with how the universe might have been created, it actually make some sense (to me). great amounts of matter gathering around thanks to gravity (wich isn't just a force, but an aspect of the universe/space, a property of it.) creating stars, and consequentially these stars acting like nuclear reactors and creating more elements and when these stars die, the explosion sparce these  elements through space, and this process repeats, on and on, like a system, and all that thanks to gravity. Gravity have always been there, we just don't understand it good enough.

All of this does sounds highly improbable, but once you put an actor, it becomes a staged play; who is this actor you ask? It could be God, let's get even more crazy and say that God could have been the singularity from wich the big bang emerged, the universe might be God itself, those equations that you mention are just a way to understand it, to make sense of what we see and feel.

Yes, it all sounds absurd and yes this singularity does defies what we know about the universe, but take in account that, this singularity is/was what created our universe (before the big bang there were no laws, or the ones that existed were waaay different than those we know today), therefore this singularity created our laws.

Of course that this singulariy is absurdly enough to break our laws of physics (it is supposed to do so), so does God, is what created us, but you chose to accept one and deny the other when they are the same thing: A creator, our creator.

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Re: What is the origin of earth?
« Reply #121 on: August 15, 2017, 09:50:45 AM »
Don't these religious nuts know that a priest was the first to come up with what later became known as the big bang?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
Jesuites are part of the illuminati, together with the freeemasons of the scottish rite the main cause of a hypothetical world that kicked God out existence.

The globe and the heliocentric inventions are invented during the total reign of the Roman Catholic church not independent science, because that has never existed.
If the Catholic church demanded a flatearth,....it was going to be a flatearth all the way.
Copernicus lived in a private estate instaed of being burned at the stake as a heretic, the stake which trinity deniers did receive.

The Castholic church/order of the Jesuites invented the heliocentric model and the big bang.
The pope has recently stated to baptise aliens at the Vatican if they would visit earth.

Like i have pointed out in another topic it is all about the alien/evil entities that will be introduced as inhabitants of the vast universe we have become so familiar with through the Hollywood film industry.
By creating a hypothetical vast universe, life somewhere else seems very likely.
And those life forms could look like anything.

This way the devil can clog behind the ''space fantasies'' when revealing himself and his armees upon the face of this world.
All meticulously described in the bible for the one with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Wasn't Galileo imprisoned by the roman catholic church for supporting the heliocentric model?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

"The Roman Inquisition tried Galileo in 1633 and found him "vehemently suspect of heresy", sentencing him to indefinite imprisonment. Galileo was kept under house arrest until his death in 1642."
His house arrest was for his agressive behaviour not his views.
He presented his theory in Italian instead of Latin which offended a lot of Roman Catholics....there is much more to it though.....

In the end he was imprisoned for the rest of his life.....9 years.
They didn't kill him, if they really thought the world was flat, because it was in the bilbe, they surely would have done so.
Roman Catholics are heretics and our current cosmological model has it roots solely in the order of the Jesuits.

I don't understand why most people claim as if the Catholic church was a flatearth bastion ?

The Romans where pagans.

The Romans worshipped the Sun God Helios.

The Roman Catholic Church would of welcomed the Heliocentric model with open arms as they do today.

The Roman Catholic Church changed the sabbath from Saturday to the Pagan day of the Sun which is when the Pagans would worship Helios.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
I don't think that's how that worked.  I think it was to celebrate the risen Christ, which happened on the first day, Sunday.  I also think that change came before there was a Roman Catholic Church.

Incorrect.

https://www.sabbathtruth.com/free-resources/article-library/id/916/catholic-church-admits-they-made-the-change

These Roman Catholics and most modern Christians do not keep Gods laws.

The Ten Commandments.

This is because the majority of modern Christianity comes from the Roman Catholic Church

This is because the Romans where Pagans.

This is because the Romans worshipped Helios.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Re: What is the origin of earth?
« Reply #122 on: August 15, 2017, 11:31:44 AM »
Don't these religious nuts know that a priest was the first to come up with what later became known as the big bang?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
Jesuites are part of the illuminati, together with the freeemasons of the scottish rite the main cause of a hypothetical world that kicked God out existence.

The globe and the heliocentric inventions are invented during the total reign of the Roman Catholic church not independent science, because that has never existed.
If the Catholic church demanded a flatearth,....it was going to be a flatearth all the way.
Copernicus lived in a private estate instaed of being burned at the stake as a heretic, the stake which trinity deniers did receive.

The Castholic church/order of the Jesuites invented the heliocentric model and the big bang.
The pope has recently stated to baptise aliens at the Vatican if they would visit earth.

Like i have pointed out in another topic it is all about the alien/evil entities that will be introduced as inhabitants of the vast universe we have become so familiar with through the Hollywood film industry.
By creating a hypothetical vast universe, life somewhere else seems very likely.
And those life forms could look like anything.

This way the devil can clog behind the ''space fantasies'' when revealing himself and his armees upon the face of this world.
All meticulously described in the bible for the one with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Wasn't Galileo imprisoned by the roman catholic church for supporting the heliocentric model?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

"The Roman Inquisition tried Galileo in 1633 and found him "vehemently suspect of heresy", sentencing him to indefinite imprisonment. Galileo was kept under house arrest until his death in 1642."
His house arrest was for his agressive behaviour not his views.
He presented his theory in Italian instead of Latin which offended a lot of Roman Catholics....there is much more to it though.....

In the end he was imprisoned for the rest of his life.....9 years.
They didn't kill him, if they really thought the world was flat, because it was in the bilbe, they surely would have done so.
Roman Catholics are heretics and our current cosmological model has it roots solely in the order of the Jesuits.

I don't understand why most people claim as if the Catholic church was a flatearth bastion ?

The Romans where pagans.

The Romans worshipped the Sun God Helios.

The Roman Catholic Church would of welcomed the Heliocentric model with open arms as they do today.

The Roman Catholic Church changed the sabbath from Saturday to the Pagan day of the Sun which is when the Pagans would worship Helios.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
I don't think that's how that worked.  I think it was to celebrate the risen Christ, which happened on the first day, Sunday.  I also think that change came before there was a Roman Catholic Church.

Incorrect.

https://www.sabbathtruth.com/free-resources/article-library/id/916/catholic-church-admits-they-made-the-change

These Roman Catholics and most modern Christians do not keep Gods laws.

The Ten Commandments.

This is because the majority of modern Christianity comes from the Roman Catholic Church

This is because the Romans where Pagans.

This is because the Romans worshipped Helios.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
There are a couple of problems with that site.  I have never seen another source claim Constantine was a bishop.  He supported Christianity but he also supported other religions, at least until later in his reign.  He was not baptized until pretty much his death bed.
Anyway, he did give Christians permission to celebrate on the first day of the week after they asked.  But they had likely already been doing this for a while.  They would do the sabbath and then meet the next day.
That being said I am always Leary of people who claim to know whether someone else is a real Christian, or Jew, or whatever.  You are not given that authority.

Re: What is the origin of earth?
« Reply #123 on: August 17, 2017, 02:59:41 AM »
Don't these religious nuts know that a priest was the first to come up with what later became known as the big bang?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
Jesuites are part of the illuminati, together with the freeemasons of the scottish rite the main cause of a hypothetical world that kicked God out existence.

The globe and the heliocentric inventions are invented during the total reign of the Roman Catholic church not independent science, because that has never existed.
If the Catholic church demanded a flatearth,....it was going to be a flatearth all the way.
Copernicus lived in a private estate instaed of being burned at the stake as a heretic, the stake which trinity deniers did receive.

The Castholic church/order of the Jesuites invented the heliocentric model and the big bang.
The pope has recently stated to baptise aliens at the Vatican if they would visit earth.

Like i have pointed out in another topic it is all about the alien/evil entities that will be introduced as inhabitants of the vast universe we have become so familiar with through the Hollywood film industry.
By creating a hypothetical vast universe, life somewhere else seems very likely.
And those life forms could look like anything.

This way the devil can clog behind the ''space fantasies'' when revealing himself and his armees upon the face of this world.
All meticulously described in the bible for the one with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Wasn't Galileo imprisoned by the roman catholic church for supporting the heliocentric model?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

"The Roman Inquisition tried Galileo in 1633 and found him "vehemently suspect of heresy", sentencing him to indefinite imprisonment. Galileo was kept under house arrest until his death in 1642."
His house arrest was for his agressive behaviour not his views.
He presented his theory in Italian instead of Latin which offended a lot of Roman Catholics....there is much more to it though.....

In the end he was imprisoned for the rest of his life.....9 years.
They didn't kill him, if they really thought the world was flat, because it was in the bilbe, they surely would have done so.
Roman Catholics are heretics and our current cosmological model has it roots solely in the order of the Jesuits.

I don't understand why most people claim as if the Catholic church was a flatearth bastion ?

The Romans where pagans.

The Romans worshipped the Sun God Helios.

The Roman Catholic Church would of welcomed the Heliocentric model with open arms as they do today.

The Roman Catholic Church changed the sabbath from Saturday to the Pagan day of the Sun which is when the Pagans would worship Helios.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
I don't think that's how that worked.  I think it was to celebrate the risen Christ, which happened on the first day, Sunday.  I also think that change came before there was a Roman Catholic Church.

Incorrect.

https://www.sabbathtruth.com/free-resources/article-library/id/916/catholic-church-admits-they-made-the-change

These Roman Catholics and most modern Christians do not keep Gods laws.

The Ten Commandments.

This is because the majority of modern Christianity comes from the Roman Catholic Church

This is because the Romans where Pagans.

This is because the Romans worshipped Helios.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
There are a couple of problems with that site.  I have never seen another source claim Constantine was a bishop.  He supported Christianity but he also supported other religions, at least until later in his reign.  He was not baptized until pretty much his death bed.
Anyway, he did give Christians permission to celebrate on the first day of the week after they asked.  But they had likely already been doing this for a while.  They would do the sabbath and then meet the next day.
That being said I am always Leary of people who claim to know whether someone else is a real Christian, or Jew, or whatever.  You are not given that authority.

God gave us the scripture and laid down the law which is very clear.

Individuals who choose to willfully break these laws such as most modern Christians are not obeying the word of God.

They are breaking commandment one two and four every time they worship.


They therefore are not real Christian's.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: What is the origin of earth?
« Reply #124 on: August 17, 2017, 04:32:52 AM »

God gave us the scripture and laid down the law which is very clear.

Individuals who choose to willfully break these laws such as most modern Christians are not obeying the word of God.

They are breaking commandment one two and four every time they worship.

They therefore are not real Christian's.

So you are now judging all who claim to be Christians and deciding yourself who does and does not "qualify".
That is not for you to say.
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Matthew 7:1-3, King James Version (KJV)
  • Judge not, that ye be not judged.
  • For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
  • And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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James 4:12
There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Re: What is the origin of earth?
« Reply #125 on: August 17, 2017, 05:21:34 AM »

God gave us the scripture and laid down the law which is very clear.

Individuals who choose to willfully break these laws such as most modern Christians are not obeying the word of God.

They are breaking commandment one two and four every time they worship.

They therefore are not real Christian's.

So you are now judging all who claim to be Christians and deciding yourself who does and does not "qualify".
That is not for you to say.
Quote
Matthew 7:1-3, King James Version (KJV)
  • Judge not, that ye be not judged.
  • For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
  • And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Quote
James 4:12
There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

I'm not judging them.

I have not said they are marked for death ect because as you say who am I to judge my fellow man.

I have just said that is the scripture and it is very clear to anyone that reads it and they do not adhere to it.


They would rather listen to a Peadofile/Jesuit speak about carefully selected parts of the scripture.

So they are not real Christian's.

This is why Jesus gave the real Christian's these clear instructions.

Matthew 6:6

But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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Re: What is the origin of earth?
« Reply #126 on: August 17, 2017, 07:02:12 AM »
Some people like the Harry Potter  historical records...

Me? I was always partial to Tolkien.
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