Are you open minded enough to be willing to accept your wrong(which is possible)? If your are not, then there is no point in having a discussion, no conclusion will ever be obtained. If you are indeed open minded, then we're good. I looked at most of the evidence of RE and most theories I can't verify of prove for myself, but some can. I travelled to washington recently (I live in Panama City, way closer to the equator) and I did some simple experiments. I measured the angles of shadows casted from a pencil by the sun. I timed it at noon. I then did the same thing in Panama and indeed, my results made no sense with a flat earth theory, they actually only made sense in a spherical earth. The math I did here was revised and in was actually correct and simple. Another simple experiment I did was also very conclusive. I live in a coastal city and I was going to an Island in boat. As I got off shore, the skyline of the building sunk in height until they disappeared and all I saw was ocean. Please explain this to me. Also, the earth is too big to notice a curvature (if there is one) simple by sight, one's point of view would make it seem like a flat disk. However if it were totally flat, we should be able to see with our own eyes building offshore from hundreds of kilometers away, but actually we can only see things that are a few miles close to us, the theory of a curved earth makes sense with this, but the flat earth theory does not. Could you explain all this to me? I am open to corrections and changes in my perspective, I seek the truth.