Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #900 on: August 31, 2017, 05:15:39 AM »

I have debunked your imaginary Globe .

If you are a professor which I doubt.

You know and I know that anyone that watches those videos with an average intelligence or above will not believe in your false religion anymore.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

And just like explosive diarrhea posts like these keep on coming... This thread is like a 3rd world toilet in the aftermath. Medic!

I thought that was a pretty good post, very interesting assertations. The catchphrase "Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False" is funny.

We've all seen the YouTube videos, we've all witnessed the eclipse and drawn our own conclusions about "what is really happening".

I'd really like to see something more than childish comments coming from the glob--globuralists? That's not a word. Globalists is something else. Hmm. I find the "science defender" team lacks gravitas lately. Flat Earth vs. Globe Earth is sort-of like Trump vs. Hillary. Flat Earth Crew has all the mojo right now. Globe Earth Crew, let's see you step it up in next round.
I tried to post some decent proof of a heliocentric eclipse.

This post shows the math used to calculate the path that turned out to be very accurate.

Okay.  If the burden of proof is on us, then here it is.  Keeping in mind I’ve already posted this...as did others for that matter.

The path of the eclipse is calculated using Besselian elements.   Besselian elements calculate the local circumstances of an observer on the surface of the earth.   

To prove that this the method use and that it matches reality, here are the calculations related to the Aug 21, 2017 eclipse that predicted the path of to within several arc seconds of latitude/longitude and was based on a spherical earth in a heliocentric system. 

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEbeselm/SEbeselm2001/SE2017Aug21Tbeselm.html

Easily verifiable by anyone who cares to do the calculations.   

I’ve provided the proof of the calculations for everyone to verify.  The math works.

The path of an eclipse is based on a heliocentric, spherical earth model. QED!

Debunk it if you can.

Mike

This post shows the moon in front of the sun during the eclipse. The website and photos are from someone not involved in FE/RE at all.  Just a family webpage and a guy who's hobby is photography.

IMHO, these are reasonable evidence of a round earth.

Here's a photo of earthshine from Monday's eclipse.  It's from a family website.  No affiliation FE, RE, NASA, or anything that could be considered a "shill".  Just a guy into his family and photography.

http://smithplanet.com/archives/the-great-american-eclipse

There are other examples for anyone who cares to search.

Mike

IMHO it is just evidence of photoshop.

Lol.

No one could see the moon at the time of the eclipse.

The Solar Eclipse is caused by the Black Sun.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
What is your opinion that it is photoshoped based on?

Mike

I witnessed the eclipse myself in the UK in 1999.

I did not see the moon pass in front of the Sun.

Your picture does not reflect what is observed in reality as such it is false.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #901 on: August 31, 2017, 05:21:43 AM »
Incorrect.
No, that would be you.


Are you capable of any rational thought at all?
Are you only capable of linking to crap?

The video has a bunch of pathetic, baseless lies.

There is no indication the ground there is flat.
There is no justification for why we wouldn't see Mercury.

And then the typical BS about the curvature.

Did you actually watch the video REtard. ?

Anyone that does will see what a load of shit your old tired out Heliocentric model is.

😆

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

ok, show us a to scale model of the flat earth.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #902 on: August 31, 2017, 05:24:33 AM »
No one could see the moon at the time of the eclipse.
I thought that you said that people in Asia could see the moon during the eclipse.

Is there any chance that you will ever provide some evidence for that claim?

No, I didn't think so.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #903 on: August 31, 2017, 05:27:02 AM »
It's a damned sight better than anything FET has.

Incorrect.

I'm sorry, but I didn't see a flat earth model of the sun/earth/moon system anywhere in that video.

Please try again.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #904 on: August 31, 2017, 05:29:41 AM »
Incorrect.
No, that would be you.


Are you capable of any rational thought at all?
Are you only capable of linking to crap?

The video has a bunch of pathetic, baseless lies.

There is no indication the ground there is flat.
There is no justification for why we wouldn't see Mercury.

And then the typical BS about the curvature.

Did you actually watch the video REtard. ?

Anyone that does will see what a load of shit your old tired out Heliocentric model is.

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Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Or they could realize that Jack Black is correct in his assessment.  there is no justification for why we wouldn't see Mercury.  And the same BS about curvature.  They spend a significant amount of time complaining about the "missing" 32 feet of curvature but never figured out what it should be with the elevation of the observer that is clearly there.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #905 on: August 31, 2017, 05:32:27 AM »
No one could see the moon at the time of the eclipse.
I thought that you said that people in Asia could see the moon during the eclipse.

Is there any chance that you will ever provide some evidence for that claim?

No, I didn't think so.

No one who was watching the Eclipse REtard.

I live in the UK how would I get a picture of the Moon in Asia at the said time?

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #906 on: August 31, 2017, 05:33:25 AM »

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Are all flat earthers genetically defective in that they don't have the slightest concept of relative values?
At 4:19 we are told
"7 MILES WE SHOULD SEE 32 1/2  FEEt OF CURVATURE"
Well there at least FOUR things wrong with that!
  • Who ever suggested that the ground there was "level" in the forst place - so video fail #1
  • What is even meant by 32 1/2 feet of curvature? All it is that there is a drop of 32 1/2 feet between the local horizontal at the one side and the curve at the other .
    Where is this local horizontal so we might see if there is or is not 32 1/2 feet of curvature? - video fail #2
  • Now look at this frame from the video:
    At the original scale that image was 1024 pixels wide and Neptune's orbit, the 7 miles, about 932 pixels, so 1 mile = 133 pixels.
    This supposed 32 1/2 feet of curvature is only 0.0062 miles or 0.82 pixels and you Resistance.is.Futile ::) ;D ::) think we should see that in the video  ::) ;D ::)  - so video fail #3
We should say "Three fails and you're out!", but there is still more to follow, and this is all from a few seconds of video!

Then there is the final point. It is much more realistic to look on the curvature as a drop of 8.2 ft eather side of the centre, so what that video is claiming is that we should be able to see this 0.2 pixel drop either side of the centre   - so video fail #4

But to the ever growing trash-pile of your stupid ignorant neo-Flat Earthism Religious videos!
When will you learn, Mr Resistance.is.Futile, that these neo-Flat Earthism Religious videos are total trash?
Your neo-Flat Earthism Religion is totally false, even if the original Flat Earth Theory of the Babylonians was not too bad at all!

Like to try again?

PS Flat Earther's should never try SCIENCE - there always screw it up!

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #907 on: August 31, 2017, 05:37:48 AM »
No one could see the moon at the time of the eclipse.
I thought that you said that people in Asia could see the moon during the eclipse.

Is there any chance that you will ever provide some evidence for that claim?

No, I didn't think so.

No one who was watching the Eclipse REtard.

I live in the UK how would I get a picture of the Moon in Asia at the said time?

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Then how would you know that the moon would be over Asia at the said time?

Do you even know how the phases of the moon work?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #908 on: August 31, 2017, 07:31:09 AM »
No one could see the moon at the time of the eclipse.
I thought that you said that people in Asia could see the moon during the eclipse.

Is there any chance that you will ever provide some evidence for that claim?

No, I didn't think so.

No one who was watching the Eclipse REtard.

I live in the UK how would I get a picture of the Moon in Asia at the said time?

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Then how would you know that the moon would be over Asia at the said time?

Do you even know how the phases of the moon work?

Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.

The Moon does not eclipse the Sun during a Solar eclipse.

The Black Sun Eclipses the Sun during a Solar eclipse.



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #909 on: August 31, 2017, 07:33:11 AM »
No one could see the moon at the time of the eclipse.
I thought that you said that people in Asia could see the moon during the eclipse.

Is there any chance that you will ever provide some evidence for that claim?

No, I didn't think so.

No one who was watching the Eclipse REtard.

I live in the UK how would I get a picture of the Moon in Asia at the said time?

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Then how would you know that the moon would be over Asia at the said time?

Do you even know how the phases of the moon work?

Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.

The Moon does not eclipse the Sun during a Solar eclipse.

The Black Sun Eclipses the Sun during a Solar eclipse.



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

ok lets see how you explain the moon phases.

and you also can than explain what the black sun is.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #910 on: August 31, 2017, 07:37:50 AM »
No one could see the moon at the time of the eclipse.
I thought that you said that people in Asia could see the moon during the eclipse.

Is there any chance that you will ever provide some evidence for that claim?

No, I didn't think so.

No one who was watching the Eclipse REtard.

I live in the UK how would I get a picture of the Moon in Asia at the said time?

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Then how would you know that the moon would be over Asia at the said time?

Do you even know how the phases of the moon work?

Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.

The Moon does not eclipse the Sun during a Solar eclipse.

The Black Sun Eclipses the Sun during a Solar eclipse.



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
You keep saying that, but have yet to show any evidence of it. You claim the moon is over Asia at that time. Well where are the pictures from Asia? You claim FE weather balloons show this. Well where's the videos you've promised and earlier even said you were 'picking between'? So far it's been nothing but hot air from you. Care to share actual evidence for your claims other than a gross misunderstanding of the difference between rotational arc velocity, rotation speed, and orbital speed? Not to mention not understanding what it means for the sun to be a point source for this.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #911 on: August 31, 2017, 07:38:28 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #912 on: August 31, 2017, 07:41:49 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.

The Moon doesn't eclipse the Sun during the solar eclipse.

The Black Sun eclipses the Sun during the Solar eclipse as can be seen in the video below.



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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #913 on: August 31, 2017, 07:49:55 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.
Then where was the moon?

You said that you know how the phases of the moon work and that anyone can verify it

According to the way lunar phases work, the new moon is near the sun.

Are you saying that the solar eclipse didn't happen during a new moon?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #914 on: August 31, 2017, 09:15:53 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.
Then where was the moon?

You said that you know how the phases of the moon work and that anyone can verify it

According to the way lunar phases work, the new moon is near the sun.

Are you saying that the solar eclipse didn't happen during a new moon?

No I'm saying as is clearly illustrated by the video I provided the moon did not pass in front of the Sun.

The moon is nowhere in sight.

This is clearly illustrated by the video I provided.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

This is because as the video clearly illustrates the Black Sun Eclipses the Sun not the Moon.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #915 on: August 31, 2017, 09:26:16 AM »

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.


Bloody hell, RiF got something right! The moon is in fact nowhere near the sun - it's approx 93 million miles away from it.


The Moon doesn't eclipse the Sun during the solar eclipse.


Ah bugger, it was all going so well.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #916 on: August 31, 2017, 09:30:57 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.

The Moon doesn't eclipse the Sun during the solar eclipse.

The Black Sun eclipses the Sun during the Solar eclipse as can be seen in the video below.



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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That's a half hour long video and the first 6 minutes are him babbling about lunar eclipses. Sum it up or point us to relevant timestamps, I'm not wading through the rest of that when the first bit has no bearing on the visuals, and is filled with ramblings about things not relevant to this thread either.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #917 on: August 31, 2017, 09:38:51 AM »
Again guys, give up with this guy, he is mental.

Now's your chance Mr Futile, what is the black sun, where is the black sun when (allegedly) it is not in front of the sun. Who first discovered it, any scientific proof of it, any text anywhere in history, so whilst it is the 'black sun' is over the sun, where, exactly, is the moon.

all we see in this poorly executed video is something black going over it - what ever it is will be 'dark' or 'black' because the sun is incredibly bright and it would wash out anything in front of it. You said you watched the eclipse in the UK in 99 and you did not see the moon pass in front, whereas millions did. your certainly one of a kind.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #918 on: August 31, 2017, 10:11:17 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.
Then where was the moon?

You said that you know how the phases of the moon work and that anyone can verify it

According to the way lunar phases work, the new moon is near the sun.

Are you saying that the solar eclipse didn't happen during a new moon?

No I'm saying as is clearly illustrated by the video I provided the moon did not pass in front of the Sun.

The moon is nowhere in sight.

This is clearly illustrated by the video I provided.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

This is because as the video clearly illustrates the Black Sun Eclipses the Sun not the Moon.

Remember your claim that the moon would be visible somewhere down in asia during the eclipse? Where's the evidence for that?
If you can't provide that evidence you're a proved liar, simple as that.  :-\
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #919 on: August 31, 2017, 10:26:55 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.

The Moon doesn't eclipse the Sun during the solar eclipse.

The Black Sun eclipses the Sun during the Solar eclipse as can be seen in the video below.



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

that guy is only repeating a lot of religious bullshit. nothing has to do with real science.

and where he quotes science he used it absolutely and willingly wrong.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #920 on: August 31, 2017, 10:43:33 AM »
Again guys, give up with this guy, he is mental.

Now's your chance Mr Futile, what is the black sun, where is the black sun when (allegedly) it is not in front of the sun. Who first discovered it, any scientific proof of it, any text anywhere in history, so whilst it is the 'black sun' is over the sun, where, exactly, is the moon.

all we see in this poorly executed video is something black going over it - what ever it is will be 'dark' or 'black' because the sun is incredibly bright and it would wash out anything in front of it. You said you watched the eclipse in the UK in 99 and you did not see the moon pass in front, whereas millions did. your certainly one of a kind.

No they just think they saw the Moon because your Heliocentric brethren told them that .

The reality is if they actually thought about it they would realise that it isn't the Moon because the Moon is visible in the day.

1999 was pre Internet for most Brits so all we had to go on was that written diarrhea that you call text books.

Fortunately we now have access to the Internet and the truth so we don't have to accept your lies anymore.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #921 on: August 31, 2017, 10:51:50 AM »
No one could see the moon at the time of the eclipse.
I thought that you said that people in Asia could see the moon during the eclipse.

Is there any chance that you will ever provide some evidence for that claim?

No, I didn't think so.

No one who was watching the Eclipse REtard.

I live in the UK how would I get a picture of the Moon in Asia at the said time?

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
You are the one who made the claim can you not back it up?

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #922 on: August 31, 2017, 11:03:47 AM »
so how could you possibly believe that the world is surrounded by an ice wall???

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #923 on: August 31, 2017, 11:09:12 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.
Then where was the moon?

You said that you know how the phases of the moon work and that anyone can verify it

According to the way lunar phases work, the new moon is near the sun.

Are you saying that the solar eclipse didn't happen during a new moon?

No I'm saying as is clearly illustrated by the video I provided the moon did not pass in front of the Sun.

The moon is nowhere in sight.

This is clearly illustrated by the video I provided.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

This is because as the video clearly illustrates the Black Sun Eclipses the Sun not the Moon.

Remember your claim that the moon would be visible somewhere down in asia during the eclipse? Where's the evidence for that?
If you can't provide that evidence you're a proved liar, simple as that.  :-\

Incorrect.

Lack of evidence does not prove guilt.

Evidence proves guilt REtard.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #924 on: August 31, 2017, 11:09:21 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.
Then where was the moon?

You said that you know how the phases of the moon work and that anyone can verify it

According to the way lunar phases work, the new moon is near the sun.

Are you saying that the solar eclipse didn't happen during a new moon?

No I'm saying as is clearly illustrated by the video I provided the moon did not pass in front of the Sun.

The moon is nowhere in sight.

This is clearly illustrated by the video I provided.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

This is because as the video clearly illustrates the Black Sun Eclipses the Sun not the Moon.
Then how do you explain the fact that the "black sun" was exactly where and when RET predicted that the moon should be during the eclipse?

Apparently you still can't grasp the concept that severely backlit objects appear black.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #925 on: August 31, 2017, 11:43:03 AM »
Yes I know how the phases of the Moon work these can be verified by anyone.
Then you admit that the moon is near the sun when in its new phase instead of over Asia like you claimed.

Nice to see that we're making progress.

The Moon is nowhere near the Sun during the Solar Eclipse.
Then where was the moon?

You said that you know how the phases of the moon work and that anyone can verify it

According to the way lunar phases work, the new moon is near the sun.

Are you saying that the solar eclipse didn't happen during a new moon?

No I'm saying as is clearly illustrated by the video I provided the moon did not pass in front of the Sun.

The moon is nowhere in sight.

This is clearly illustrated by the video I provided.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

This is because as the video clearly illustrates the Black Sun Eclipses the Sun not the Moon.
Then how do you explain the fact that the "black sun" was exactly where and when RET predicted that the moon should be during the eclipse?

Apparently you still can't grasp the concept that severely backlit objects appear black.

The Black Sun was where your brethren said the Moon would be and your point is ..... They are bound to say that as this reinforces your heliocentric deception.

The Moon is visible in the day.

The Moon was not visible during the eclipse as it allegedly approached the Sun or retreated from the Sun.

This is because as the video I provided   illustrated the Black Sun eclipses the Sun not the Moon.

Back lit objects only appear black to cameras not the naked eye.

On your heliocentric model you claim the Moon is illuminated by the Sun.

For example the dusty Moon is able to illuminate the earth using light reflected from the Sun.

If this is correct then the much larger much more reflective earth should of illuminated the Moon with the Sun's reflected light making it possible to see the moon right throughout the day during the eclipse.

You can't have it both ways.


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« Reply #926 on: August 31, 2017, 12:09:55 PM »
On your heliocentric model you claim the Moon is illuminated by the Sun.

For example the dusty Moon is able to illuminate the earth using light reflected from the Sun.

If this is correct then the much larger much more reflective earth should of illuminated the Moon with the Sun's reflected light making it possible to see the moon right throughout the day during the eclipse.
I can see how you would get to this conclusion, even if it's incorrect. In order for the moon to be seen during the night which is outside the new moon phase, it's illuminated by the sun (sunlight bouncing directly off the moon) and as we all know highly visible. During a new moon, the moon is competing in the sky with the sun for brightness, which greatly lowers it's ability to be seen. In addition to that, while sunlight is indeed bouncing off the Earth, what is hitting the moon isn't what we see, because the light has to bounce off the moon again. Well, the difference in brightness between the sun and moon is obvious. So that's a large amount of luminosity being lost. While the Earth reflects more light than the moon, what's reflected is reduced by that same factor. Thus, a new moon is all but invisible against the sky. If you know just where to look you can maybe see it with an unaided eye.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #927 on: August 31, 2017, 12:13:28 PM »
Nobody gives a fuck what your "honest opinion" is.

You are completely wrong.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #928 on: August 31, 2017, 12:39:18 PM »
On your heliocentric model you claim the Moon is illuminated by the Sun.

For example the dusty Moon is able to illuminate the earth using light reflected from the Sun.

If this is correct then the much larger much more reflective earth should of illuminated the Moon with the Sun's reflected light making it possible to see the moon right throughout the day during the eclipse.
I can see how you would get to this conclusion, even if it's incorrect. In order for the moon to be seen during the night which is outside the new moon phase, it's illuminated by the sun (sunlight bouncing directly off the moon) and as we all know highly visible. During a new moon, the moon is competing in the sky with the sun for brightness, which greatly lowers it's ability to be seen. In addition to that, while sunlight is indeed bouncing off the Earth, what is hitting the moon isn't what we see, because the light has to bounce off the moon again. Well, the difference in brightness between the sun and moon is obvious. So that's a large amount of luminosity being lost. While the Earth reflects more light than the moon, what's reflected is reduced by that same factor. Thus, a new moon is all but invisible against the sky. If you know just where to look you can maybe see it with an unaided eye.

The Moon is visible in the day I have seen it roughly 90 degrees away from the Sun.

I do not find your explanation acceptable.

When I witnessed the eclipse in the UK in 1999 I did not see the Moon all day .

Let's look at the facts :

The Moon is visible during the day.

The Moon is not visible during the Eclipse.

The Moon does not cause the Solar Eclipse.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #929 on: August 31, 2017, 01:03:26 PM »
On your heliocentric model you claim the Moon is illuminated by the Sun.

For example the dusty Moon is able to illuminate the earth using light reflected from the Sun.

If this is correct then the much larger much more reflective earth should of illuminated the Moon with the Sun's reflected light making it possible to see the moon right throughout the day during the eclipse.
I can see how you would get to this conclusion, even if it's incorrect. In order for the moon to be seen during the night which is outside the new moon phase, it's illuminated by the sun (sunlight bouncing directly off the moon) and as we all know highly visible. During a new moon, the moon is competing in the sky with the sun for brightness, which greatly lowers it's ability to be seen. In addition to that, while sunlight is indeed bouncing off the Earth, what is hitting the moon isn't what we see, because the light has to bounce off the moon again. Well, the difference in brightness between the sun and moon is obvious. So that's a large amount of luminosity being lost. While the Earth reflects more light than the moon, what's reflected is reduced by that same factor. Thus, a new moon is all but invisible against the sky. If you know just where to look you can maybe see it with an unaided eye.

The Moon is visible in the day I have seen it roughly 90 degrees away from the Sun.

I do not find your explanation acceptable.

When I witnessed the eclipse in the UK in 1999 I did not see the Moon all day .

and you did not see the moon at night, at that date was a new moon

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Let's look at the facts :

The Moon is visible during the day.
except at the time of new moon
on the other time you do see a crescent of the moon at day
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The Moon is not visible during the Eclipse.
as it is every time exact at new moon

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The Moon does not cause the Solar Eclipse.
that is proven to be wrong and you know it
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Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.