Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #180 on: August 06, 2017, 06:17:54 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol

What are you talking about?

The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #181 on: August 06, 2017, 06:21:12 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol
I tried to point that out earlier but he didn't seem to notice or maybe he didn't care.

Mike
Since it costs 2.72¢ to produce a penny, putting in your 2¢ if really worth 5.44¢.

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Zammo

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #182 on: August 06, 2017, 06:29:53 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol

What are you talking about?

The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yes, yes, yes, as you've repeated ad naseum this thread, constantly revealing you still can't get your little brain around the difference between the moon's angular velocity and its linear velocity and direction. 

Your strange flattard religion is false.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2017, 06:35:13 PM by Zammo »
If I'm a complete Idiot for not believing in your Heliocentric fairytale then so be it.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #183 on: August 06, 2017, 06:30:00 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol
I tried to point that out earlier but he didn't seem to notice or maybe he didn't care.

Mike

You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol

What are you talking about?

Are you trying to tell me the moon rises in the west and sets in the east.?

The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #184 on: August 06, 2017, 06:32:15 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol
I tried to point that out earlier but he didn't seem to notice or maybe he didn't care.

Mike

He's absolutely lost. Just incapable of thinking in three dimensions. Must be why he can only imagine a flat earth!  ;D ;D ;D
If I'm a complete Idiot for not believing in your Heliocentric fairytale then so be it.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #185 on: August 06, 2017, 06:35:40 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol

What are you talking about?

The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yes, yes, yes, as you've repeated as naseum this thread, constantly revealing you still can't get your little brain around the difference between the moon's angular velocity and its linear velocity and direction. 

Your strange flattard religion is false.

Stop talking nonsense.

Their is nothing to get my head around.

The moon takes 27 days to orbit the Earth.

FACT.

The moon rises and sets everyday.

The Earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity.

This can be verified by watching the Moon rise in the east and set in the west.

It is impossible for the Moon to cast a shadow that is 24 times smaller than itself that travels in the opposite direction to itself.

It is you that can't understand the difference between angular velocity and actual velocity.

If the Moon's actual velocity is greater than the angular velocity of the earth then why does the moon rise in the east and set in the west is it magic.?

Lol.

Lol.

Thank you for your help  ;)

The End.

The videos again ;)





Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2017, 06:40:09 PM by Resistance.is.Futile »

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #186 on: August 06, 2017, 06:39:53 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol
I tried to point that out earlier but he didn't seem to notice or maybe he didn't care.

Mike

You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol

What are you talking about?

Are you trying to tell me the moon rises in the west and sets in the east.?

The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Nope.  It rises in the east and sets in the west.  However, the moon orbits in the same direction as the rotation of the earth.

Mike
Since it costs 2.72¢ to produce a penny, putting in your 2¢ if really worth 5.44¢.

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Zammo

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #187 on: August 06, 2017, 06:46:24 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol

What are you talking about?

The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yes, yes, yes, as you've repeated as naseum this thread, constantly revealing you still can't get your little brain around the difference between the moon's angular velocity and its linear velocity and direction. 

Your strange flattard religion is false.

Stop talking nonsense.

Their is nothing to get my head around.

The moon takes 27 days to orbit the Earth.

FACT.

The moon rises and sets everyday.

The Earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity.

This can be verified by watching the Moon rise in the east and set in the west.

It is impossible for the Moon to cast a shadow that is 24 times smaller than itself that travels in the opposite direction to itself.

It is you that can't understand the difference between angular velocity and actual velocity.

If the Moon's actual velocity is greater than the angular velocity of the earth then why does the moon rise in the east and set in the west is it magic.?

Lol.

Lol.

Thank you for your help  ;)

The End.

The videos again ;)





Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Repeating the same erroneous thinking over and over and over doesn't make your position more real. It simply reinforces your sheer stupidity. Over and over and over.  ;D ;D ;D

We've said it before, but here it is again for you to ignore. The earth's angular velocity is greater than the moon's angular velocity (you got that bit, and it's why the moon rises in the East and sets in the West). The moon's LINEAR velocity is greater than the LINEAR velocity of the earth's surface (the bit you don't get, and the explanation for why the moon's shadow moves from West to East)

Your strange flattard religion is false.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2017, 07:01:11 PM by Zammo »
If I'm a complete Idiot for not believing in your Heliocentric fairytale then so be it.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #188 on: August 06, 2017, 06:48:41 PM »
You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol
I tried to point that out earlier but he didn't seem to notice or maybe he didn't care.

Mike

You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Lol

Fool doesn't even know which direction the moon is moving in front of the sun.

 ;D ;D ;D

Lol

What are you talking about?

Are you trying to tell me the moon rises in the west and sets in the east.?

The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Nope.  It rises in the east and sets in the west.  However, the moon orbits in the same direction as the rotation of the earth.

Mike

Yes just as I have said in previous posts many times and your point is........


For the 1000 time it is because the earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity that the Moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

And as I have said as the Moon's shadow will move across the Earth from west to east and the moon moves across the earth from east to west the moon's shadow moves in the opposite direction to the moon.

Are you struggling to understand your own model ?

Thank you keep up the good work.



You can believe what you want it doesn' bother me what you believe.
The readers are capable of making their own minds up.

 ;)






The End.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2017, 06:52:06 PM by Resistance.is.Futile »

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #189 on: August 06, 2017, 06:49:17 PM »
That post was a joke  ::)
I was making fun at just how ridiculous your Heliocentric model is.

It is impossible for the Moon's shadow to move the opposite way to the Moon itself when the earth's angular velocity is allegedly 27 times greater than the Moon's alleged actual velocity.

It is impossible for any object to cast a shadow 24 times smaller than itself.
I cannot imagine anyone being so ignorant of the geometry of shadows you ever even think that!
Look at this diagram:
That should make it completely obvious that
  • if the light source size is greater than the size of the object, then the umbra is smaller than the size of your object,
  • if the light source size is equal in size to the object, then the umbra is equal in size to the object and
  • if the light source size is less than the size of the object, then the umbra is greater than the size of the object.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Quote from: MicroBeta

This should help you figure out the direction the moon and it's shadow travel.  No magic just basic trigonometry and relative motion.
Further, see my previous post.  It will straighten out your misconceptions on the size of the moons shadow.

Mike
No, that video is nonsense and contradictory.
It claims the Earth's angular velocity is up to 79 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity.
I haven't found the bit where "It claims the Earth's angular velocity is up to 79 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity".
Would you please point out where it says that.
 
Nobody disputes that Earth's angular velocity is greater than the Moon's angular velocity, though on average by 29.5306 times.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Then at the end it claims the Moon's velocity is greater than the Earth's angular velocity using a video from NASA .
No it doesn't! You simply cannot compare the Moon's velocity with the Earth's angular velocity.
Velocity has the units distance/time or metres/secs, while angular velocity has the units angle/time or radians/sec.
So you are comparing quite different things - chalk and cheese.

What you must compare is the surface velocity of the earth where the eclipse will pass with the velocity of the moon's shadow.
And tangential (or surface velocity) = angular velocity (in radians/second) times the radius!

The radius of the earth at 40° latitude = cos(40°) x 6.366 x 106 = 4.876 x 106 m.
The angular velocity of the earth = (2 x π)/86400 = 7.272 x 10-5 radians/sec.
So the earth's surface velocity (in the middle of USA) is  4.876 x 106 x 7.272 x 10-5  = 356 m/s.

The radius of the moon's orbit averages 3.850 x 1008 m.
So angular velocity of the moon afound its orbit is (earths angular velocity/29.5306) = 2.463 x 10-6 radians/sec.
And the orbital velocity of the moon is  3.850 x 1008 x 2.463 x 10-6  = 948 m/s.

So even though the moon's angular velocity is much less than the angular velocity of the earth,
the moon's orbital velocity is somewhat more than the surface velocity of the earth.

The moon's shadow travels very slightly faster (about 0.25%) than the moon's orbital velocity.
And the speed of the shadow from west to east is just the shadow's velocity less the surface velocity of the earth.

Exactly as everyone, except Mr Ignorance.is.Wonderful now seems to understand.
 
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Everyone can verify that the earth's angular velocity is greater than the Moon's actual velocity as the Moon rises in the East and sets in the west every day.
You cannot compare angular velocity with actual velocity - they are "different animals"!
When the moon rises, where it appears in the sky and when it sets all depend on the relative angular velocities.
But the moon's shadow is cast from the distant sun from the moon moving at 3413 km/hr.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Most people can verify that the Earth's actual rotational velocity does not determine what we see in the sky as in the north pole where the rotational velocity is negligible on your heliocentric model;  the moon the sun and the stars still do a full rotation " EVERY DAY "
Are you daft? It is the angular velocity that determines what we see "in the sky", but the moon's shadow is not something that is seen "in the sky"!

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Your Heliocentric model does not match reality and as such is FALSE.
So the Heliocentric Globe fits precisely what we see in reality!

Now, where is this detailed flat earth explanation of the solar eclipse, explaining just how an umbra up to 494 km across can be caused by a 50 km diameter sun and a 50 km diameter moon?

Bye bye - go and dream about you imaginary neo-Flat Earthism Religion, because that's all it is - a dream!

Then I noticed youe later post:
For the 1000 time it is because the earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity that the Moon rises in the east and sets in the west.
NO! You simply cannot compare the earth's angular velocity with Moon's actual velocity - it is totally meaningless!

The earth's angular velocity is about 27 (29 if relative to the sun) times Moon's angular velocity.

Until you can understand the difference you will remain floundering and totally confused - even if you aren't smart enough to realise it.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2017, 06:57:07 PM by rabinoz »

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #190 on: August 06, 2017, 06:59:50 PM »
That post was a joke  ::)
I was making fun at just how ridiculous your Heliocentric model is.

It is impossible for the Moon's shadow to move the opposite way to the Moon itself when the earth's angular velocity is allegedly 27 times greater than the Moon's alleged actual velocity.

It is impossible for any object to cast a shadow 24 times smaller than itself.
I cannot imagine anyone being so ignorant of the geometry of shadows you ever even think that!
Look at this diagram:
That should make it completely obvious that
  • if the light source size is greater than the size of the object, then the umbra is smaller than the size of your object,
  • if the light source size is equal in size to the object, then the umbra is equal in size to the object and
  • if the light source size is less than the size of the object, then the umbra is greater than the size of the object.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Quote from: MicroBeta

This should help you figure out the direction the moon and it's shadow travel.  No magic just basic trigonometry and relative motion.
Further, see my previous post.  It will straighten out your misconceptions on the size of the moons shadow.

Mike
No, that video is nonsense and contradictory.
It claims the Earth's angular velocity is up to 79 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity.
I haven't found the bit where "It claims the Earth's angular velocity is up to 79 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity".
Would you please point out where it says that.
 
Nobody disputes that Earth's angular velocity is greater than the Moon's angular velocity, though on average by 29.5306 times.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Then at the end it claims the Moon's velocity is greater than the Earth's angular velocity using a video from NASA .
No it doesn't! You simply cannot compare the Moon's velocity with the Earth's angular velocity.
Velocity has the units distance/time or metres/secs, while angular velocity has the units angle/time or radians/sec.
So you are comparing quite different things - chalk and cheese.

What you must compare is the surface velocity of the earth where the eclipse will pass with the velocity of the moon's shadow.
And tangential (or surface velocity) = angular velocity (in radians/second) times the radius!

The radius of the earth at 40° latitude = cos(40°) x 6.366 x 106 = 4.876 x 106 m.
The angular velocity of the earth = (2 x π)/86400 = 7.272 x 10-5 radians/sec.
So the earth's surface velocity (in the middle of USA) is  4.876 x 106 x 7.272 x 10-5  = 356 m/s.

The radius of the moon's orbit averages 3.850 x 1008 m.
So angular velocity of the moon afound its orbit is (earths angular velocity/29.5306) = 2.463 x 10-6 radians/sec.
And the orbital velocity of the moon is  3.850 x 1008 x 2.463 x 10-6  = 948 m/s.

So even though the moon's angular velocity is much less than the angular velocity of the earth,
the moon's orbital velocity is somewhat more than the surface velocity of the earth.

The moon's shadow travels very slightly faster (about 0.25%) than the moon's orbital velocity.
And the speed of the shadow from west to east is just the shadow's velocity less the surface velocity of the earth.

Exactly as everyone, except Mr Ignorance.is.Wonderful now seems to understand.
 
Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Everyone can verify that the earth's angular velocity is greater than the Moon's actual velocity as the Moon rises in the East and sets in the west every day.
You cannot compare angular velocity with actual velocity - they are "different animals"!
When the moon rises, where it appears in the sky and when it sets all depend on the relative angular velocities.
But the moon's shadow is cast from the distant sun from the moon moving at 3413 km/hr.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Most people can verify that the Earth's actual rotational velocity does not determine what we see in the sky as in the north pole where the rotational velocity is negligible on your heliocentric model;  the moon the sun and the stars still do a full rotation " EVERY DAY "
Are you daft? It is the angular velocity that determines what we see "in the sky", but the moon's shadow is not something that is seen "in the sky"!

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Your Heliocentric model does not match reality and as such is FALSE.
So the Heliocentric Globe fits precisely what we see in reality!

Now, where is this detailed flat earth explanation of the solar eclipse, explaining just how an umbra up to 494 km across can be caused by a 50 km diameter sun and a 50 km diameter moon?

Bye bye - go and dream about you imaginary neo-Flat Earthism Religion, because that's all it is - a dream!
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What a load of nonsense a shadow is caused by the object blocking the light not the light itself.

As I have said the rotational velocity does not determine what we see in the sky.

For example at the north pole where the rotational velocity is negligible the Sun Moon and Stars do a full rotation every day this is due to the angular velocity so your explanation is nonsense.

Light travels in straight lines the moon's shadow will be directly below the moon as a solar eclipses occurs when the Moon passes between the Sun and the Earth on your model so the light source the sun is directly behind the moon and the earth is directly in front.

Your fooling no one .

Didn't think you was stupid enough to get involved in this one.

Your reputation will not recover from this  ;)






Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is finished.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2017, 07:08:03 PM by Resistance.is.Futile »

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #191 on: August 06, 2017, 07:03:22 PM »
Yes just as I have said in previous posts many times and your point is........


For the 1000 time it is because the earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity that the Moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

And as I have said as the Moon's shadow will move across the Earth from west to east and the moon moves across the earth from east to west the moon's shadow moves in the opposite direction to the moon.

Are you struggling to understand your own model ?

Thank you keep up the good work.



You can believe what you want it doesn' bother me what you believe.
The readers are capable of making their own minds up.

 ;)






The End.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
You have an issue with scale.  None of that matters.  You haven't shown anybody what's wrong with their info and haven't pro.....oh bother
Since it costs 2.72¢ to produce a penny, putting in your 2¢ if really worth 5.44¢.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #192 on: August 06, 2017, 07:09:38 PM »
Yes just as I have said in previous posts many times and your point is........


For the 1000 time it is because the earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the Moon's actual velocity that the Moon rises in the east and sets in the west.

And as I have said as the Moon's shadow will move across the Earth from west to east and the moon moves across the earth from east to west the moon's shadow moves in the opposite direction to the moon.

Are you struggling to understand your own model ?

Thank you keep up the good work.



You can believe what you want it doesn' bother me what you believe.
The readers are capable of making their own minds up.

 ;)






The End.

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You have an issue with scale.  None of that matters.  You haven't shown anybody what's wrong with their info and haven't pro.....oh bother

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markjo

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #193 on: August 06, 2017, 07:10:09 PM »
The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the angular velocity of the Moon's actual velocity angular velocity around the earth, this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.
Fixed that for you.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D
The earth rotates at 1000 mph and the moon orbits the earth at 2300 mph.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Your understanding of the heliocentric model is flawed.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #194 on: August 06, 2017, 07:21:07 PM »
The earth's angular velocity is 27 times greater than the angular velocity of the Moon's actual velocity angular velocity around the earth, this is why the moon rises in the east and sets in the west.
Fixed that for you.

The moon's shadow on the 21.08.17 solar eclispe will move west to east across the earth which is the opposite direction to the moon anyone can verify this no cgi needed.
 ;D
The earth rotates at 1000 mph and the moon orbits the earth at 2300 mph.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Your understanding of the heliocentric model is flawed.

The moon on your model is 200000 miles away so its actual velocity is irrelevant.

Tho only thing that determines what we see in the sky on the Heliocentric model is the Earth's angular velocity.

Are you claiming the moon rises in the west and sets in the east because the moon's actual velocity is greater than the rotational velocity of the Earth.

If not what is your point?





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markjo

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #195 on: August 06, 2017, 07:36:54 PM »
The moon on your model is 200000 miles away so its actual velocity is irrelevant.
Incorrect.  The actual velocity and angular velocity are intimately related.

Tho only thing that determines what we see in the sky on the Heliocentric model is the Earth's angular velocity.
Except that the moon's shadow is being projected onto the earth, so what we see in the sky isn't necessarily relevant.

Are you claiming the moon rises in the west and sets in the east because the moon's actual velocity is greater than the rotational velocity of the Earth.
No, that isn't what I'm claiming. 

If not what is your point?
My point is that some aspects of heliocentricity seem counter-intuitive, and this is one of them.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #196 on: August 06, 2017, 07:40:42 PM »
pretty ironic, considering that this eclipse was predicted using the heliocentric model of the universe -__-
Pyramid earth matters.


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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #197 on: August 06, 2017, 08:37:59 PM »
The conclusion is No No and No your heliocentric model is ridiculous and doesn't match reality.

No, it's much simpler than that. Your understanding doesn't match reality.

That post was a joke  ::)

With your posts, who can tell? It seems like they all are.

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I was making fun at just how ridiculous your Heliocentric model is.

It is impossible for the Moon's shadow to move the opposite way to the Moon itself when the earth's angular velocity is allegedly 27 times greater than the Moon's alleged actual velocity.

Lol. You're joking again, right?

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It is impossible for any object to cast a shadow 24 times smaller than itself.

THE END.

You must be joking.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #198 on: August 06, 2017, 09:07:33 PM »
Pappa Legba?

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #199 on: August 06, 2017, 10:03:28 PM »
The moon on your model is 200000 miles away so its actual velocity is irrelevant.
Incorrect, the moon is not "200000 miles away " and Incorrect, "its actual velocity is" completely relevant.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Tho only thing that determines what we see in the sky on the Heliocentric model is the Earth's angular velocity.
Totally incorrect again! It is the velocity of the shadow and the surface velocity of the earth that determine the apparent movement of the umbra shadow.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Are you claiming the moon rises in the west and sets in the east because the moon's actual velocity is greater than the rotational velocity of the Earth.
No ,the moon rises in the east and sets in the west because the moon's angular velocity is less than the angular velocity of the Earth.
It's so simple a child can understand it, but apparently not Mr Ignorance.is.Wonderful!

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If not what is your point?
The point is to try to hammer into your head that
It is the velocity of the shadow and the surface velocity of the earth that determine the apparent movement of the umbra shadow.

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<< We've seen that rubbish too many times, thanks!  >>
Those videos have been proven wrong numerous times but you will listen to no-one other than your
High Priests of this stupid neo-Flat Earthism is Religion.
You have proven over and over that your simply are not capable of any thoughts of own, outside your indoctrination.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #200 on: August 06, 2017, 10:13:30 PM »
Why do you even argue with these trolls?



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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #201 on: August 06, 2017, 10:37:06 PM »
Why do you even argue with these trolls?
:D :D :D And you don't like poking sticks into hornets nests?  :D :D :D

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #202 on: August 06, 2017, 11:15:07 PM »
The moon on your model is 200000 miles away so its actual velocity is irrelevant.
Incorrect, the moon is not "200000 miles away " and Incorrect, "its actual velocity is" completely relevant.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Tho only thing that determines what we see in the sky on the Heliocentric model is the Earth's angular velocity.
Totally incorrect again! It is the velocity of the shadow and the surface velocity of the earth that determine the apparent movement of the umbra shadow.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Are you claiming the moon rises in the west and sets in the east because the moon's actual velocity is greater than the rotational velocity of the Earth.
No ,the moon rises in the east and sets in the west because the moon's angular velocity is less than the angular velocity of the Earth.
It's so simple a child can understand it, but apparently not Mr Ignorance.is.Wonderful!

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
If not what is your point?
The point is to try to hammer into your head that
It is the velocity of the shadow and the surface velocity of the earth that determine the apparent movement of the umbra shadow.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
<< We've seen that rubbish too many times, thanks!  >>
Those videos have been proven wrong numerous times but you will listen to no-one other than your
High Priests of this stupid neo-Flat Earthism is Religion.
You have proven over and over that your simply are not capable of any thoughts of own, outside your indoctrination.

Shadow velocity.

Lol

Lol.

The Moon's shadow will fall directly in front of the Moon as the Sun is stationary and directly behind the Moon.

Light travels in straight lines.

You are fooling no one with your heliocentric nonsense.

It is impossible for the path of the solar eclipse to move in completely the opposite direction to the moon.

The moon rises in the East and sets in th west.

The Solar Eclipse starts in the west and finishes if the East.

The Earth's angular velocity which Is one rotation every 24 hrs is 27 times faster than the Moon's velocity.

This is why the moon allegedly rises in the east and sets in the west.

If the Moon's velocity was greater than the angular velocity of the earth the Moon would rise in the West and set in the East it would also have to orbit the earth more than once every 24 hours to achieve this.

Here is a description of a solar eclipse on your model.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse

It clearly says the eclipse is caused when the moon passes in front of the sun.

The moon takes 27 days to orbit the earth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_of_the_Moon

On your model the Sun is stationary regarding it's position to the earth and the moon

.http://kidseclipse.com/sun-earth-moon-move/

I choose this link so you Stupid and gullable Heliocentric's can try to understand how and why the upcoming Solar Eclipse is impossible on your model.

It is impossible for an objects shadow to move in the opposite direction to the said object when the light source is stationary.

The only way this would be possible on your model would be if the Sun was moving millions of miles in relation to the earth and did not maintain it's alleged position in the centre of the solar system.

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-sun-the-center-of-the-solar-system-Why



So I will tell you again it is impossible for the Solar Eclipse to move across the Earth west to East which is the opposite direction to the moon on your Heliocentric model.

Your Heliocentric model does not match reality as such your Heliocentric model is false.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #203 on: August 07, 2017, 12:16:57 AM »
The apparent motion of all solar objects, sun, moon, planets, and stars; Is due to the rotation of earth.
There are other motions to be considered.
1) All the planets orbit around the sun, Earth being one of them.
2) The moon orbiting the Earth in a counterclockwise motion.
3) The Earth rotation in a counterclockwise rotation.
The counter clockwise rotation of Earth Is why we have the appearance of the sun and moon rising in the east. When you compare the motion of the Sun and Moon, you will see that the moon moves from west to east, you ask how was this? Pick a time, anytime, Mark the Moon location, in 24 hours, once again mark the Moon location, repeat the process; and you will note the moon moves from west to east on a daily basis. With a waning moon, it will be seen during the day,  coming close to a new moon,  the solar eclipse, happens at the new moon. with the moon moving from west to east, for that short time the shadow crosses the earth, as the moon moves to the east.  the rotation of the earth,  only changes the time and location of where the shadow is cast.  This is the results of all the numbers,  that have been stated before and elsewhere,  if I were to try to put the numbers in they just would  cloud the issue.
In 14 days  this eclipse  will be over, and its motion will be seen as predicted, proving that the earth is a globe.  and I am sure that you will be able to find  a live broadcast,  on TV, cable or the Internet.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #204 on: August 07, 2017, 12:55:00 AM »


So I will tell you again it is impossible ................

What is your obsession with using angular velocity for Earth's rotation, and orbital velocity for moon's orbit?  Earth rotates a little over a thousand mph at the equator.  Less at the latitude the eclipse will be viewed at.  The moon orbits at a little over 2000mph.  So guess what speed the shadow moves across the surface.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #205 on: August 07, 2017, 01:56:24 AM »
Thanks for posting vids RIF. How about you REtards explain why the the moon is casting such a small shadow during the eclipse.
That's easy to explain.  And you can test it in your own backyard.  Take a ball outside, draw a circle of the same diameter as the ball on anything, and try to get that shadow to fit into that circle.

Further, this link has all the data tables and equations that accurately predict eclipses for the next thousand years.  It will predict the path and width of totality.  If you could debunk this you'd have all the ammo you need.

Mike

More of your nonsense  ::)

It is impossible for an objects shadow to be 24 times smaller than the object.

Your Heliocentric model is even more ridiculous because the Moon is 200000 miles away from the Earth on your heliocentric model.

How does an object 200000 miles away cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

Lol......

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
I apologize for the missing link but here it is.  All the equations, assumptions, data tables, paths of totality, etc. is contained in the document.

You may want to call it nonsense but it all works and is based on a spherical/celestial coordinate system.  It fits all past observations and accurately predicts future event for the next thousand years. 

BTW,  you can actually test this outside.  All you need is a ball, a piece of paper with a circle the same diameter as the ball, and a nice sunny day.  Try to fill the circle with the shadow of the ball.  Unless you put it in contact with the surface you can't do it.  You can actually calculate the shadow size based on the size of the moon, the size of the sun, and it's and it's distance from the earth.  It's not magic just simple math and a basic understanding of optics you can get from any high school text book. Umbra & Penumbra!  You can't change or ignore the laws physics just to suit your views.

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLE-214173.pdf

Mike

It seems you Heliocentrics know no bounds when it come to defending your religion.

What absolute nonsense.


I hope this link helps you to understand how shadows work.

http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=486505&seqNum=4


I hope this video helps you understand how shadows work.



As you will probobly have trouble comprehending that videoand the website I linked I will link this one that is for children.



You should pay particular attention to how the mandarins shadow increases in size the further it is moved away from the surface it's shadow is projected on.

Can you now please explain to me how the Moon can cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

According to the laws of physics this is impossible.

As your Heliocentric model doesn't match reality and true verified science it must be FALSE.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
If you have all the answers then you should easily be able to show what exactly is "nonsense" with my link...or don't you actually know?

Mike
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #206 on: August 07, 2017, 02:10:29 AM »
It is impossible for an objects shadow to move in the opposite direction to the said object when the light source is stationary.
Maybe it is, but the shadow does move in the same direction as the moon moves, west to east.
But, the moon's appearing to rise in the east
          is because the earth's angular velocity (one revolution per day, relative to the sun)
          is greater the moon's angular velocity (one revolution per 29.531 days, relative to the sun).

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The only way this would be possible on your model would be if the Sun was moving millions of miles in relation to the earth and did not maintain it's alleged position in the centre of the solar system.
Incorrect!

Quote from: Ignorance.is.Bliss
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-sun-the-center-of-the-solar-system-Why
:D :D No problem!  :D :D

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So I will tell you again it is impossible for the Solar Eclipse to move across the Earth west to East which is the opposite direction to the moon on your Heliocentric model.
Tell me as many times as you like and you'll be still just as wrong!

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Your Heliocentric model does not match reality as such your Heliocentric model is false.
Nope! The (not my) Heliocentric Globe fits the observations very well, thank you.

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<<< Stop repeating that rubbish! An oft repeated untruth is still just as untrue! >>>
It's quite hilarious that you, Mr Ignorance.is.Bliss can't understand something as simple as this,
when everyone else, incudling dutchy and jeranism seem to find the explanation quite reasonable.

Everybody has done their best to explain this to you, so if you can't understand it yet, you only have yourself to blame.

But, please, oh please, never decide that you think that the Heliocentric Globe is correct, it couldn't take it and would fall flat!

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #207 on: August 07, 2017, 02:30:13 AM »
It is impossible for an objects shadow to move in the opposite direction to the said object when the light source is stationary.
Maybe it is, but the shadow does move in the same direction as the moon moves, west to east.
But, the moon's appearing to rise in the east
          is because the earth's angular velocity (one revolution per day, relative to the sun)
          is greater the moon's angular velocity (one revolution per 29.531 days, relative to the sun).

Quote from: Ignorance.is.Bliss
The only way this would be possible on your model would be if the Sun was moving millions of miles in relation to the earth and did not maintain it's alleged position in the centre of the solar system.
Incorrect!

Quote from: Ignorance.is.Bliss
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-sun-the-center-of-the-solar-system-Why
:D :D No problem!  :D :D

Quote from: Ignorance.is.Bliss
So I will tell you again it is impossible for the Solar Eclipse to move across the Earth west to East which is the opposite direction to the moon on your Heliocentric model.
Tell me as many times as you like and you'll be still just as wrong!

Quote from: Ignorance.is.Bliss
Your Heliocentric model does not match reality as such your Heliocentric model is false.
Nope! The (not my) Heliocentric Globe fits the observations very well, thank you.

Quote from: Ignorance.is.Bliss
<<< Stop repeating that rubbish! An oft repeated untruth is still just as untrue! >>>
It's quite hilarious that you, Mr Ignorance.is.Bliss can't understand something as simple as this,
when everyone else, incudling dutchy and jeranism seem to find the explanation quite reasonable.

Everybody has done their best to explain this to you, so if you can't understand it yet, you only have yourself to blame.

But, please, oh please, never decide that you think that the Heliocentric Globe is correct, it couldn't take it and would fall flat!

You are getting confused with Moon's actual velocity and angular velocity .

The angular velocity of the Moon is irrelevant regarding the Solar Eclipse.

Light travels in straight lines .

The Eclispe is caused by the moon passing between the sun and the earth.

The Sun has to be directly behind the Moon and the Earth has to be directly in front of the Moon.

An object shadow will follow the object when the light source is directly behind it.

You are now claiming the Moon moves in the opposite direction to what is observed this would be the only possible way that the Moon's shadow can move west to East when the light source which is the Sun is directly behind it.

http://www.livephysics.com/physical-constants/mechanics-pc/angular-speed-earth/

You are fooling no one with your heliocentric nonsense.

It is impossible for the path of the solar eclipse to move in completely the opposite direction to the moon.

The moon rises in the East and sets in th west.

The Solar Eclipse starts in the west and finishes if the East.

The Earth's angular velocity which Is one rotation every 24 hrs is 27 times faster than the Moon's velocity.

This is why the moon allegedly rises in the east and sets in the west.

If the Moon's velocity was greater than the angular velocity of the earth the Moon would rise in the West and set in the East it would also have to orbit the earth more than once every 24 hours to achieve this.

Here is a description of a solar eclipse on your model.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse

It clearly says the eclipse is caused when the moon passes in front of the sun.

The moon takes 27 days to orbit the earth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_of_the_Moon

On your model the Sun is stationary regarding it's position to the earth and the moon

.http://kidseclipse.com/sun-earth-moon-move/

I choose this link so you Stupid and gullable Heliocentric's can try to understand how and why the upcoming Solar Eclipse is impossible on your model.

It is impossible for an objects shadow to move in the opposite direction to the said object when the light source is stationary.

The only way this would be possible on your model would be if the Sun was moving millions of miles in relation to the earth and did not maintain it's alleged position in the centre of the solar system.

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-sun-the-center-of-the-solar-system-Why

So I will tell you again it is impossible for the Moon to cast a shadow on the Earth that is 24 times smaller than itself.

So I will tell you again it is impossible for the Solar Eclipse to move across the Earth west to East which is the opposite direction to the moon on your Heliocentric model.

Your Heliocentric model does not match reality as such your Heliocentric model is false.

Part one



Part two




The readers will make their own minds up ;)

Your Heliocentric model is as old and tired as you Rab.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #208 on: August 07, 2017, 02:52:31 AM »
Given that the prediction of a solar eclipse is supposedly impossible using the heliocentric model and a spherical earth and moon it's pretty amazing that they are predicted with incredible accuracy using exactly that model.

And once again, the moon's shadow is not 24 times smaller, it is exactly the right size, and you've even had pretty pictures illustrating why.

Your inability to use a signature is irritating.
Facts won't do what I want them to.

We went from a round Earth to a round Moon: http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/apollo.html

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #209 on: August 07, 2017, 03:48:17 AM »

The readers will make their own minds up ;)

Yes, they will, won't they Mr Ignorance.is.Bliss, but I haven't see too many rushing to you aid.

Now, I assume that you have a perfect flat earth theory explaning solar eclipse.

So please, if you wish to retain a trace of credibility, you will immediately present your perfect flat earth theory of solar eclipses.

Bye bye, I do hope that you enjoy living in such ignorance, following all you are taught by your High Priests of neo-Flat Earthism Religion