Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 11:05:07 AM

That is irrelevant.

The Ancient Chinese could predict eclipses on their Flat model.

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar-eclipse-history.html

I believe the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to work with the Ancient Chinese/ Babylonian Flat Model.

Did you actually read any of the article in that link?

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Although early eclipse pioneers, including Chinese astronomer Liu Hsiang, Greek philosopher Plutarch, and Byzantine historian Leo Diaconus tried to describe and explain solar eclipses and their features, it was not until 1605 that astronomer Johannes Kepler gave a scientific description of a total solar eclipse.

More than a century later, Edmund Halley, who the famous Halley's comet is named after, predicted the timing and path of the total solar eclipse on May 3, 1715. His calculations were only 4 minutes and about 30 km (18 mi) off from the actual timing and path of the eclipse.

I wonder what model Kepler and Halley used?

Quote from: Zaphod on August 06, 2017, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 11:05:07 AM

That is irrelevant.

The Ancient Chinese could predict eclipses on their Flat model.

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar-eclipse-history.html

I believe the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to work with the Ancient Chinese/ Babylonian Flat Model.

Did you actually read any of the article in that link?

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Although early eclipse pioneers, including Chinese astronomer Liu Hsiang, Greek philosopher Plutarch, and Byzantine historian Leo Diaconus tried to describe and explain solar eclipses and their features, it was not until 1605 that astronomer Johannes Kepler gave a scientific description of a total solar eclipse.

More than a century later, Edmund Halley, who the famous Halley's comet is named after, predicted the timing and path of the total solar eclipse on May 3, 1715. His calculations were only 4 minutes and about 30 km (18 mi) off from the actual timing and path of the eclipse.

I wonder what model Kepler and Halley used?

OK try this one.

https://explorable.com/chinese-astronomy

As it says a false prediction was punishable by death.

The Chinese where accurately predicting eclispes when westerners where still living in caves ; sharing their women and having sex with apes.

Like I said the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to fit the ancient Chinese /Babylonian flat model.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

OK try this one.

https://explorable.com/chinese-astronomy

As it says a false prediction was punishable by death.

The Chinese where accurately predicting eclispes when westerners where still living in caves ; sharing their women and having sex with apes.

Like I said the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to fit the ancient Chinese /Babylonian flat model.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

RIF

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OK try this one.

https://explorable.com/chinese-astronomy

As it says a false prediction was punishable by death.

The Chinese where accurately predicting eclispes when westerners where still living in caves ; sharing their women and having sex with apes.

Like I said the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to fit the ancient Chinese /Babylonian flat model.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Interesting article. It doesn't say they were using a flat earth model though and states they were more interested in observation and record keeping rather than developing theories and models. The eclipses they were trying to predict were lunar rather than solar. As the earth is so much larger than the moon I guess this would not require so much accuracy.

Can you link to any working FE model for predicting eclipses? This surely must exist if heliocentrics have "retrofitted" their mathematics.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 11:27:00 AM

Quote from: Zaphod on August 06, 2017, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 11:05:07 AM

That is irrelevant.

The Ancient Chinese could predict eclipses on their Flat model.

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar-eclipse-history.html

I believe the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to work with the Ancient Chinese/ Babylonian Flat Model.

Did you actually read any of the article in that link?

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Although early eclipse pioneers, including Chinese astronomer Liu Hsiang, Greek philosopher Plutarch, and Byzantine historian Leo Diaconus tried to describe and explain solar eclipses and their features, it was not until 1605 that astronomer Johannes Kepler gave a scientific description of a total solar eclipse.

More than a century later, Edmund Halley, who the famous Halley's comet is named after, predicted the timing and path of the total solar eclipse on May 3, 1715. His calculations were only 4 minutes and about 30 km (18 mi) off from the actual timing and path of the eclipse.

I wonder what model Kepler and Halley used?

OK try this one.

https://explorable.com/chinese-astronomy

As it says a false prediction was punishable by death.

The Chinese where accurately predicting eclispes when westerners where still living in caves ; sharing their women and having sex with apes.

Like I said the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to fit the ancient Chinese /Babylonian flat model.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

You still haven't answered how the eclipse itself works on a flat earth.  Why do you keep dodging this question?

Quote from: MicroBeta on August 06, 2017, 04:28:33 AM

Quote from: hoppy on August 05, 2017, 08:28:58 PM

Thanks for posting vids RIF. How about you REtards explain why the the moon is casting such a small shadow during the eclipse.

That's easy to explain.  And you can test it in your own backyard.  Take a ball outside, draw a circle of the same diameter as the ball on anything, and try to get that shadow to fit into that circle.

Further, this link has all the data tables and equations that accurately predict eclipses for the next thousand years.  It will predict the path and width of totality.  If you could debunk this you'd have all the ammo you need.

Mike

More of your nonsense 

It is impossible for an objects shadow to be 24 times smaller than the object.

Your Heliocentric model is even more ridiculous because the Moon is 200000 miles away from the Earth on your heliocentric model.

How does an object 200000 miles away cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

Lol......

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Quote from: Badxtoss on August 06, 2017, 11:35:43 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 11:27:00 AM

Quote from: Zaphod on August 06, 2017, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 11:05:07 AM

That is irrelevant.

The Ancient Chinese could predict eclipses on their Flat model.

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar-eclipse-history.html

I believe the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to work with the Ancient Chinese/ Babylonian Flat Model.

Did you actually read any of the article in that link?

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Although early eclipse pioneers, including Chinese astronomer Liu Hsiang, Greek philosopher Plutarch, and Byzantine historian Leo Diaconus tried to describe and explain solar eclipses and their features, it was not until 1605 that astronomer Johannes Kepler gave a scientific description of a total solar eclipse.

More than a century later, Edmund Halley, who the famous Halley's comet is named after, predicted the timing and path of the total solar eclipse on May 3, 1715. His calculations were only 4 minutes and about 30 km (18 mi) off from the actual timing and path of the eclipse.

I wonder what model Kepler and Halley used?

OK try this one.

https://explorable.com/chinese-astronomy

As it says a false prediction was punishable by death.

The Chinese where accurately predicting eclispes when westerners where still living in caves ; sharing their women and having sex with apes.

Like I said the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to fit the ancient Chinese /Babylonian flat model.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

You still haven't answered how the eclipse itself works on a flat earth.  Why do you keep dodging this question?

It is irrelevant if I answer your question or not this thread is called Eclispe on 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe "NOT"

Solar Eclipses on Flat Earth explained .

I suggest you do your own research.

I have proved that the Solar Eclispe on the 21.08.17 will debunk your Heliocentric Globe model.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on August 06, 2017, 07:01:19 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile link=topic=71435.msg1938895#msg1938895

How does an object 200000 miles away cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

Because the object causing it to cast the shadow is much bigger.

It's really not difficult.

Incorrect.

It is ridiculous that you expect people to believe that the Moon which is allegedly 200000 miles away can cast a shadow that is " 24 " times smaller than the moon .

<description of a poorly-designed experiment>

Does your tennis ball cast a shadow that is 24 times smaller than the tennis ball on your football.

The soccer ball used in professional leagues and in the FIFA World Cup is called “size 5”. The following are the specifications of an official size 5 soccer ball:

Circumference: 27 to 28 inches (69 to 71 cm)
...

Kids’ & youth soccer ball circumference

U-6, U-7, & U-8: Size 3 is the official soccer ball for toddlers and young children. It has a circumference of 23-24 inches... Size 3 is the smallest official ball.
U-9, U-10, & U-11: Size 4 is the standard soccer ball for kids aged between nine and 11 years old. It has a circumference of 25-26 inches...

Does the shadow on your football move in the opposite direction to your tennis ball you should pay particular attention to the fact that the Sun light source is 50 m directly behind your tennis ball.

I will save you the time in performing this experiment.

The conclusion is No No and No your heliocentric model is ridiculous and doesn't match reality.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 10:32:21 AM

Quote from: onebigmonkey on August 06, 2017, 07:01:19 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile link=topic=71435.msg1938895#msg1938895

How does an object 200000 miles away cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

Because the object causing it to cast the shadow is much bigger.

It's really not difficult.

Incorrect.

It is ridiculous that you expect people to believe that the Moon which is allegedly 200000 miles away can cast a shadow that is " 24 " times smaller than the moon .

Why the " quote marks " around 24, and why the extra space before the period ?

The moon is roughly 240,000 miles from earth. If you're going to demand people do things to scale, might as well get the dimensions right.

You certainly seem to work extra hard to avoid understanding this even though it's a relatively simple concept.

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<description of a poorly-designed experiment>

Does your tennis ball cast a shadow that is 24 times smaller than the tennis ball on your football.

Let's see. According to your recipe:

You will need a light source that ... is the same size as the average house
You will need a child size football (soccer ball for yanks)
You will need a tennis ball

Now, since "the same size as the average house" is kind of vague, and there is more than one definition of a "child size foorball", that leaves us with the tennis ball as a scale. The diameter of a tennis ball is about 6.7 cm. Since the moon's diameter is about 27% the earth's diameter, to the same scale, earth would need to be just under 25 cm diameter. Now, soccer ball sizes are officially specified by circumference in inches, so, for our scaled earth, circumference is 78 cm, or 30.7 inches. A regulation-size ball for professional play is smaller than that. 

Quote from: https://www.football-bible.com/soccer-info/soccer-ball-sizes.html

The soccer ball used in professional leagues and in the FIFA World Cup is called “size 5”. The following are the specifications of an official size 5 soccer ball:

Circumference: 27 to 28 inches (69 to 71 cm)
...

Kids’ & youth soccer ball circumference

U-6, U-7, & U-8: Size 3 is the official soccer ball for toddlers and young children. It has a circumference of 23-24 inches... Size 3 is the smallest official ball.
U-9, U-10, & U-11: Size 4 is the standard soccer ball for kids aged between nine and 11 years old. It has a circumference of 25-26 inches...

I'm not sure why you specifically call for a child's ball, but that seems to be incorrect if you want to maintain scale.

Anyway, the sun's diameter is approximately 109 times greater than earth's, so your sun should be about 27 meters across (25 cm * 109 = 2700 cm). That's a pretty big house!

Anyway, continuing...
Place your tennis ball 50 m or 60 yards away from your Sun.
Place your child size football 1 m or 1.1 yards away from your tennis ball.

The distance from earth to moon is roughly 30 times the diameter of the earth, so our scaled moon should be 7.5 meters from the earth to match the scale. How did you come up with 1 meter? Similarly, the sun is about 375 times as far from the earth as the moon is, not the 51 times you call for.

Even though your proposal is obviously sloppily designed, let's continue with it, anyway. We will start by solving for the poorly-specified diameter of the sun based on the dimensions of your moon, the distances you provide, and the desired shadow size.

Diameter of the shadow (umbra, I presume) 1m away from our tennis-ball moon is "24 times smaller" than the tennis ball, so 1m is the distance from the tennis ball to 1/24 of the way from the end of its umbra, or 23/24 of the length of the umbra.

This means the umbra ends at a distance:
d = 1m / (23/24)
 = 24 * 1m / 23
d = 1.043m

This means that the tennis ball exactly obscures our scaled sun 1.043 meters on the far side of the tennis ball. So how big must the sun be at this scale?

The sun is (50m + 1.043m)/1.043m = 48.9 times times as far away from the end of the umbra as the tennis ball is, so it must be 48.9 times times larger than the tennis ball.

D_sun = 48.9 * 6.7 cm
 = 328 cm
D_sun = 3.3m

3.3 meters across is a pretty small house.

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Does the shadow on your football move in the opposite direction to your tennis ball you should pay particular attention to the fact that the Sun light source is 50 m directly behind your tennis ball.

That distance isn't really long enough, but the shadow moves in the same direction as the tennis ball. If the linear movements are done to scale and the correct direction, the shadow moves from right to left (ccw about the soccer ball, as viewed from above) faster than a point on the surface of the soccer ball rotates ccw about the center, also from right to left by about a factor of two, so the shadow would move across the surface from west to east, exactly as expected.

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I will save you the time in performing this experiment.

Good idea! It terribly flawed and won't work at all as designed.

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The conclusion is No No and No your heliocentric model is ridiculous and doesn't match reality.

No, it's much simpler than that. Your understanding doesn't match reality.

That post was a joke 

I was making fun at just how ridiculous your Heliocentric model is.

It is impossible for the Moon's shadow to move the opposite way to the Moon itself when the earth's angular velocity is allegedly 27 times greater than the Moon's alleged actual velocity.

It is impossible for any object to cast a shadow 24 times smaller than itself.

THE END.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 06:51:12 AM

Quote from: MicroBeta on August 06, 2017, 04:28:33 AM

Quote from: hoppy on August 05, 2017, 08:28:58 PM

Thanks for posting vids RIF. How about you REtards explain why the the moon is casting such a small shadow during the eclipse.

That's easy to explain.  And you can test it in your own backyard.  Take a ball outside, draw a circle of the same diameter as the ball on anything, and try to get that shadow to fit into that circle.

Further, this link has all the data tables and equations that accurately predict eclipses for the next thousand years.  It will predict the path and width of totality.  If you could debunk this you'd have all the ammo you need.

Mike

More of your nonsense 

It is impossible for an objects shadow to be 24 times smaller than the object.

Your Heliocentric model is even more ridiculous because the Moon is 200000 miles away from the Earth on your heliocentric model.

How does an object 200000 miles away cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

Lol......

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

I apologize for the missing link but here it is.  All the equations, assumptions, data tables, paths of totality, etc. is contained in the document.

You may want to call it nonsense but it all works and is based on a spherical/celestial coordinate system.  It fits all past observations and accurately predicts future event for the next thousand years. 

BTW,  you can actually test this outside.  All you need is a ball, a piece of paper with a circle the same diameter as the ball, and a nice sunny day.  Try to fill the circle with the shadow of the ball.  Unless you put it in contact with the surface you can't do it.  You can actually calculate the shadow size based on the size of the moon, the size of the sun, and it's and it's distance from the earth.  It's not magic just simple math and a basic understanding of optics you can get from any high school text book. Umbra & Penumbra!  You can't change or ignore the laws physics just to suit your views.

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLE-214173.pdf

Mike

Quote from: Zaphod on August 06, 2017, 10:44:34 AM

R.i.F
Do you accept that there will be an eclipse on august 21st?
If yes, how do you think we know, and how were the path, shadow width, timings etc calculated?
I've spent lots of dosh on flights, car hire, campsites in Wyoming etc so I jolly well hope they've got it right!

That is irrelevant.
The Ancient Chinese could predict eclipses on their Flat model.
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar-eclipse-history.html

Off with their heads!

Quote Predicting the Emperor's Future Surviving records have shown that the Babylonians and the ancient Chinese were able to predict solar eclipses as early as 2500 BCE. In China, solar eclipses were thought to be associated with the health and success of the emperor, and failing to predict one meant putting him in danger. Legend has it that 2 astrologers, Hsi and Ho, were executed for failing to predict a solar eclipse. Historians and astronomers believe that the eclipse that they failed to forecast occurred on October 22, 2134 BCE, which would make it the oldest solar eclipse ever recorded in human history. From: Time and Date, Solar Eclipses in History

I believe the Heliocentric's have retrofitted their mathematics to work with the Ancient Chinese/ Babylonian Flat Model.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 02:06:09 PM

That post was a joke 

I was making fun at just how ridiculous your Heliocentric model is.

It is impossible for the Moon's shadow to move the opposite way to the Moon itself when the earth's angular velocity is allegedly 27 times greater than the Moon's alleged actual velocity.

It is impossible for any object to cast a shadow 24 times smaller than itself.

THE END.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

This should help you figure out the direction the moon and it's shadow travel.  No magic just basic trigonometry and relative motion.



Further, see my previous post.  It will straighten out your misconceptions on the size of the moons shadow.

Mike

Quote from: MicroBeta on August 06, 2017, 12:42:55 PM

I apologize for the missing link but here it is.  All the equations, assumptions, data tables, paths of totality, etc. is contained in the document.

You may want to call it nonsense but it all works and is based on a spherical/celestial coordinate system.  It fits all past observations and accurately predicts future event for the next thousand years. 

BTW,  you can actually test this outside.  All you need is a ball, a piece of paper with a circle the same diameter as the ball, and a nice sunny day.  Try to fill the circle with the shadow of the ball.  Unless you put it in contact with the surface you can't do it.  You can actually calculate the shadow size based on the size of the moon, the size of the sun, and it's and it's distance from the earth.  It's not magic just simple math and a basic understanding of optics you can get from any high school text book. Umbra & Penumbra!  You can't change or ignore the laws physics just to suit your views.

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLE-214173.pdf

Mike

It seems you Heliocentrics know no bounds when it come to defending your religion.

What absolute nonsense.


I hope this link helps you to understand how shadows work.

http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=486505&seqNum=4

I hope this video helps you understand how shadows work.



As you will probobly have trouble comprehending that videoand the website I linked I will link this one that is for children.



You should pay particular attention to how the mandarins shadow increases in size the further it is moved away from the surface it's shadow is projected on.

Can you now please explain to me how the Moon can cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

According to the laws of physics this is impossible.

As your Heliocentric model doesn't match reality and true verified science it must be FALSE.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 02:32:10 PM

Quote from: MicroBeta on August 06, 2017, 12:42:55 PM

I apologize for the missing link but here it is.  All the equations, assumptions, data tables, paths of totality, etc. is contained in the document.

You may want to call it nonsense but it all works and is based on a spherical/celestial coordinate system.  It fits all past observations and accurately predicts future event for the next thousand years. 

BTW,  you can actually test this outside.  All you need is a ball, a piece of paper with a circle the same diameter as the ball, and a nice sunny day.  Try to fill the circle with the shadow of the ball.  Unless you put it in contact with the surface you can't do it.  You can actually calculate the shadow size based on the size of the moon, the size of the sun, and it's and it's distance from the earth.  It's not magic just simple math and a basic understanding of optics you can get from any high school text book. Umbra & Penumbra!  You can't change or ignore the laws physics just to suit your views.

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLE-214173.pdf

Mike

It seems you Heliocentrics know no bounds when it come to defending your religion.

What absolute nonsense.


I hope this link helps you to understand how shadows work.

http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=486505&seqNum=4

I hope this video helps you understand how shadows work.



As you will probobly have trouble comprehending that videoand the website I linked I will link this one that is for children.



You should pay particular attention to how the mandarins shadow increases in size the further it is moved away from the surface it's shadow is projected on.

Can you now please explain to me how the Moon can cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

According to the laws of physics this is impossible.

As your Heliocentric model doesn't match reality and true verified science it must be FALSE.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

I guess the laws of physics are different in your universe.  So you’re unable to refute anything I’ve posted so you’ll just throw up some youtube videos.  The first is all opinion and conjecture without a single support analytical method to, well...show anything.

The second video where child is being home schooled...interesting.  If you actually watched it you'd notice the shadow is smaller than the orange with a diffuse shadow area around the dark shadow.  Kinda like the description of the moon shadow.

I’ve provided you with a link to all the math and data.  All you had to do was show why it doesn’t work.

I provided you with an easy experiment.  One that, if you’re right should disprove, will disprove the moon shadow size so why are you afraid to try it?

You seem to just dismiss everything without even attempting to debunk it.  You provide links to other peoples junk science without citing any real physics or math in support.  Not much of an actual discussion.  What's factually incorrect with what I posted?  How about we start there.

Mike

You guys should know by now that debating with Ignorance.is.Bliss is in fact futile... 

You guys should know by now that debating with Ignorance.is.Bliss is in fact futile... 

<snip>
All you and your brethren have to offer is contradictory videos and explanations in a desperate attempt to try and get your model to work.
<snip>

Quote from: MicroBeta on August 06, 2017, 03:34:03 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 02:32:10 PM

Quote from: MicroBeta on August 06, 2017, 12:42:55 PM

I apologize for the missing link but here it is.  All the equations, assumptions, data tables, paths of totality, etc. is contained in the document.

You may want to call it nonsense but it all works and is based on a spherical/celestial coordinate system.  It fits all past observations and accurately predicts future event for the next thousand years. 

BTW,  you can actually test this outside.  All you need is a ball, a piece of paper with a circle the same diameter as the ball, and a nice sunny day.  Try to fill the circle with the shadow of the ball.  Unless you put it in contact with the surface you can't do it.  You can actually calculate the shadow size based on the size of the moon, the size of the sun, and it's and it's distance from the earth.  It's not magic just simple math and a basic understanding of optics you can get from any high school text book. Umbra & Penumbra!  You can't change or ignore the laws physics just to suit your views.

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLE-214173.pdf

Mike

It seems you Heliocentrics know no bounds when it come to defending your religion.

What absolute nonsense.


I hope this link helps you to understand how shadows work.

http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=486505&seqNum=4

I hope this video helps you understand how shadows work.



As you will probobly have trouble comprehending that videoand the website I linked I will link this one that is for children.



You should pay particular attention to how the mandarins shadow increases in size the further it is moved away from the surface it's shadow is projected on.

Can you now please explain to me how the Moon can cast a shadow that is some 24 times smaller than itself.

According to the laws of physics this is impossible.

As your Heliocentric model doesn't match reality and true verified science it must be FALSE.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

I guess the laws of physics are different in your universe.  So you’re unable to refute anything I’ve posted so you’ll just throw up some youtube videos.  The first is all opinion and conjecture without a single support analytical method to, well...show anything.

The second video where child is being home schooled...interesting.  If you actually watched it you'd notice the shadow is smaller than the orange with a diffuse shadow area around the dark shadow.  Kinda like the description of the moon shadow.

I’ve provided you with a link to all the math and data.  All you had to do was show why it doesn’t work.

I provided you with an easy experiment.  One that, if you’re right should disprove, will disprove the moon shadow size so why are you afraid to try it?

You seem to just dismiss everything without even attempting to debunk it.  You provide links to other peoples junk science without citing any real physics or math in support.  Not much of an actual discussion.  What's factually incorrect with what I posted?  How about we start there.

Mike

You have claimed a great many things but you have shown nothing.
How about showing us how the eclipse works in your model?

You live in delusion.

The child's video debunked your home experiment.

I have explained numerous times how the earth's alleged angular velocity is greater than the Moon's alleged actual velocity.

I have explained how this can be verified as the Moon rises in the East everyday and sets in the west every day.

I have also explained that if the Moon's actual velocity was greater than the Earth's angular velocity that the moon would rise in the West and set in the East.

I have also explained that if this was the case the Moon would have to orbit the earth more than once a day not the 27 day orbit that your heliocentric model claims.

I have explained how the earth's rotational velocity does not determine what we see in the sky ;

I even gave an example that can be verified which was the north pole where the alleged rotational velocity is negligible the luminaries still do a full rotation everyday.

I have explained how shadows work .

I have given a child's video as an example to prove that it is impossible for any object to project a shadow that is 24 times smaller than itself on another object as the Moon allegedly will do on the 21.08.17 on your false heliocentric model regarding the upcoming solar eclispe.

I have explained how it is impossible for the moon to project it's shadow in the opposite direction to what it moves in the sky as the sun is relatively stationary to the earth so the moon's shadow will have to be directly under the moon as the eclispe is caused when the moon passes between the Sun and the Earth.

I have debunked your Globe model regarding the Solar Eclispe in every aspect possible.

You are not fooling anyone with your nonsense that goes against the laws of real verified physics and explanations and videos that contradict your heliocentric model.

The readers will make their own minds up.

All you and your brethren have to offer is contradictory videos and explanations in a desperate attempt to try and get your model to work.

It does not work.

The End.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 03:55:13 PM

<snip>
All you and your brethren have to offer is contradictory videos and explanations in a desperate attempt to try and get your model to work.
<snip>

This statement is false.  AAMOF, I provided you with a link. 

A link that contained every assumption, data, and complete analytical solution to a heliocentric model of eclipses. 

A link that to a document that if debunked would be the Holy Grail to Flat Earth Theory. 

A chance to show that the heliocentric model does not and cannot work as described.

So, I have to wonder.  Why would you completely ignore you chance to burn the heliocentric model to the ground?

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLE-214173.pdf

Mike

Quote from: MicroBeta on August 06, 2017, 04:32:52 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 03:55:13 PM

<snip>
All you and your brethren have to offer is contradictory videos and explanations in a desperate attempt to try and get your model to work.
<snip>

This statement is false.  AAMOF, I provided you with a link. 

A link that contained every assumption, data, and complete analytical solution to a heliocentric model of eclipses. 

A link that to a document that if debunked would be the Holy Grail to Flat Earth Theory. 

A chance to show that the heliocentric model does not and cannot work as described.

So, I have to wonder.  Why would you completely ignore you chance to burn the heliocentric model to the ground?

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLE-214173.pdf

Mike

I already have burned your Heliocentric  model to the ground.

I have already debunked your heliocentric model.

It makes no difference to you Heliocentrics because you live a delusion.

To normal people it does make a difference .

After the upcoming solar eclipse don't be surprised when normal people will pass off everything your brethren say as fake news.

In the UK we have had various stories from the lesser newspapers regarding Alien life.

Guess what ?

Hardly anyone believes it apart from those weirdos who masterbate over NASA and the alleged  Moon landings ect.

Telling a Heliocentric such as yourself that the Globe doesn't exist is like telling a child Santa doesn't exist shortly after they have just sat on his knee.
 

Personally from the reaction of some of your brethren when confronted with the flat earth I would say they know the truth.

The readers can try this for themselves just see how they react and your suspicions will be verified.

The trouble for you and your brethren is:

People are easy to read.

I personally find heliocentric's easier to read as they consider themselves superior and underestimate the intelligence of others.

This attitude is what got you and your brethren here in the first place.

To most normal people it is telling that you Heliocentric's have been systematically manipulated from an early age and are quite simply just robots programmed to take orders.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is Finished.

Quote from: MicroBeta on August 06, 2017, 04:32:52 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 03:55:13 PM

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All you and your brethren have to offer is contradictory videos and explanations in a desperate attempt to try and get your model to work.
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This statement is false.  AAMOF, I provided you with a link. 

A link that contained every assumption, data, and complete analytical solution to a heliocentric model of eclipses. 

A link that to a document that if debunked would be the Holy Grail to Flat Earth Theory. 

A chance to show that the heliocentric model does not and cannot work as described.

So, I have to wonder.  Why would you completely ignore you chance to burn the heliocentric model to the ground?

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLE-214173.pdf

Mike

I already have burned your Heliocentric  model to the ground.

I have already debunked your heliocentric model.

It makes no difference to you Heliocentrics because you live a delusion.

To normal people it does make a difference .

After the upcoming solar eclipse don't be surprised when normal people will pass off everything your brethren say as fake news.

In the UK we have had various stories from the lesser newspapers regarding Alien life.

Guess what ?

Hardly anyone believes it apart from those weirdos who masterbate over NASA and the alleged  Moon landings ect.

Telling a Heliocentric such as yourself that the Globe doesn't exist is like telling a child Santa doesn't exist shortly after they have just sat on his knee.
 

Personally from the reaction of some of your brethren when confronted with the flat earth I would say they know the truth.

The readers can try this for themselves just see how they react and your suspicions will be verified.

The trouble for you and your brethren is:

People are easy to read.

I personally find heliocentric's easier to read as they consider themselves superior and underestimate the intelligence of others.

This attitude is what got you and your brethren here in the first place.

To most normal people it is telling that you Heliocentric's have been systematically manipulated from an early age and are quite simply just robots programmed to take orders.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is Finished.

I already have burned your Heliocentric  model to the ground.

I have already debunked your heliocentric model.

You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 06:01:18 PM

You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again. 






You Heliocentrics will never accept the truth .

The readers will make their own minds up.

The more you talk nonsense and contradict yourselves the weaker your model becomes.

Thank you for your help.

Keep up the good work!

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Quote from: Zammo on August 06, 2017, 06:05:47 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on August 06, 2017, 06:01:18 PM

You Heliocentrics are fooling no one with your nonsense and contradictory explanations.

Here are the two videos.

I suggest you watch them again.







Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Yeah, they're still crap and reveal all the same intellectual restrictions that afflict you.

Nope. The only shadow movement on the heliocentric reality that makes sense is West to East. It's both predictable and perfectly understandable to those with brains.

Lol.

A shadow that moves in the opposite direction to the object casting it when the light source is stationary.

Carry on please.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.