How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?

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Badxtoss

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #60 on: July 23, 2017, 06:29:32 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
So you can't do what you said was easy?  No I don't believe it!  Go ahead and calculate the size and distance of the sun.  Or admit you can't.  Either is fine but no more dodging, it's beneath you. 

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #61 on: July 23, 2017, 06:35:54 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
So you can't do what you said was easy?  No I don't believe it!  Go ahead and calculate the size and distance of the sun.  Or admit you can't.  Either is fine but no more dodging, it's beneath you.

Why should I waist my time to do something that it has been disproved.

It's like me asking you to make gold out of lead!!!
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #62 on: July 23, 2017, 06:56:04 AM »
Going back to your initial assertion, for the entirety of its existence, Piltdown Man was viewed with quite a bit of skepticism. In all areas of research, some paths of investigation are dead ends. Eventually, lines that prove useful, survive, while others die out. That, incidentally, is how evolution works.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #63 on: July 23, 2017, 07:02:38 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
So you can't do what you said was easy?  No I don't believe it!  Go ahead and calculate the size and distance of the sun.  Or admit you can't.  Either is fine but no more dodging, it's beneath you.

Why should I waist my time to do something that it has been disproved.

It's like me asking you to make gold out of lead!!!
If the earth is flat, as you claim,  how do explain the path of the sun and the lack of an accurate map, and where do we go from here.  Redraw maps?

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #64 on: July 23, 2017, 07:07:23 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
So you can't do what you said was easy?  No I don't believe it!  Go ahead and calculate the size and distance of the sun.  Or admit you can't.  Either is fine but no more dodging, it's beneath you.

Why should I waist my time to do something that it has been disproved.

It's like me asking you to make gold out of lead!!!
If the earth is flat, as you claim,  how do explain the path of the sun and the lack of an accurate map, and where do we go from here.  Redraw maps?

No, the real question that you should be asking, is where did all the $$$$$ got to that NASA received!!!
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #65 on: July 23, 2017, 07:23:33 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
So you can't do what you said was easy?  No I don't believe it!  Go ahead and calculate the size and distance of the sun.  Or admit you can't.  Either is fine but no more dodging, it's beneath you.

Why should I waist my time to do something that it has been disproved.

It's like me asking you to make gold out of lead!!!
If the earth is flat, as you claim,  how do explain the path of the sun and the lack of an accurate map, and where do we go from here.  Redraw maps?

No, the real question that you should be asking, is where did all the $$$$$ got to that NASA received!!!
Please answer my question.

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Badxtoss

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #66 on: July 23, 2017, 07:29:04 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
So you can't do what you said was easy?  No I don't believe it!  Go ahead and calculate the size and distance of the sun.  Or admit you can't.  Either is fine but no more dodging, it's beneath you.

Why should I waist my time to do something that it has been disproved.

It's like me asking you to make gold out of lead!!!
That made no sense at all.  You claimed it was easy to calculate the size and distance to the sun.  I think you have no idea what you are talking about and you demonstrate it more with every reply.
Make gold out of lead?  Wtf?  When did I claim I could do that?
Something that has been disproved?  If by that you mean your crazy flat earth nonsense then sure, I see your point.
Otherwise you are simply admitting that you lied and all this stuff you are spouting is bullshit.
You claimed it was easy to do, so do it.

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InFlatEarth

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #67 on: July 23, 2017, 07:34:04 AM »
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Something that has been disproved?


Your religion crumbled today, on a Sunday when the airplane pilot confirmed that he does not dip his airplane when he flys from the USA to Japan.

No Curvature at all.

To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2017, 07:34:34 AM »
You claimed it was easy to do, so do it.

He should put up or shut up, as easy as that.

Just go forth, IFE, we're waiting.
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InFlatEarth

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2017, 07:37:08 AM »
You claimed it was easy to do, so do it.

He should put up or shut up, as easy as that.

Just go forth, IFE, we're waiting.

Your religion has been debunked. It over, finito, adeols amigo
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2017, 07:51:50 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!

This is an irrelevant argument. It's also flawed because pilots don't have to keep dipping their airplanes to maintain their altitude.

Irrelevant that we have testimony that the earth has no curvature???

It prove the point that you have the Piltdown Man Syndrome , to believe every lie that fits into your narrative...

You got your ass COMPLETELY kicked, and claim victory?


You can't even be honest with YOURSELF!


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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #71 on: July 23, 2017, 08:30:03 AM »
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Something that has been disproved?


Your religion crumbled today, on a Sunday when the airplane pilot confirmed that he does not dip his airplane when he flys from the USA to Japan.

No Curvature at all.
I will take your dodge as an admission that you lied.
I suspected as much.
But I'll give you another chance.
Do what you claimed you could.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #72 on: July 23, 2017, 08:35:48 AM »
Going back to your initial assertion, for the entirety of its existence, Piltdown Man was viewed with quite a bit of skepticism. In all areas of research, some paths of investigation are dead ends. Eventually, lines that prove useful, survive, while others die out. That, incidentally, is how evolution works.

" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">link to youtube video presumed to be a

Paraphrasing InFlatEarth: "If you give them videos, they will believe it, without questions, as long as it fits into their narrative. They will also defend it to the max."

This is certainly true for the anti-science crowd; strident voutube videos based on bad data, poor logic, fuzzy thinking, and misinformation seem to be the main vector for their message.

Can you provide a transcript of that video or a synopsis of its argument? If you can't clearly describe what it's saying, you must not understand it. Do you have anything other than (a) video(s) to bolster whatever argument you're trying to make, or are you just trying to hammer home the point about believing videos you want to believe?

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #73 on: July 23, 2017, 08:36:47 AM »
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Something that has been disproved?


Your religion crumbled today, on a Sunday when the airplane pilot confirmed that he does not dip his airplane when he flys from the USA to Japan.

No Curvature at all.

Or you have no fucking clue how planes calculate and maintain their altitude. Let's see, you versus experienced pilot....tricky...
Facts won't do what I want them to.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #74 on: July 23, 2017, 09:13:12 AM »
You claimed it was easy to do, so do it.

He should put up or shut up, as easy as that.

Just go forth, IFE, we're waiting.

Your religion has been debunked. It over, finito, adeols amigo

Still dodging, I see.

Just a quick reminder in case you forgot: The topic at hand is how you would calculate the height and the diameter of the Sun on a flat Earth since you claimed the current FET got it all wrong and it would be easy for you to calculate it right.
So just go forth, we're waiting.
Bonus points for drawing the FBD on your precious flat Earth Sun when you finished the calculation.  ;D
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #75 on: July 23, 2017, 09:36:37 AM »
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Something that has been disproved?


Your religion crumbled today, on a Sunday when the airplane pilot confirmed that he does not dip his airplane when he flys from the USA to Japan.

No Curvature at all.

No, that was you completely failing to understand his description of not needing to manually "dip" the plane as long as you tell it to maintain a constant altitude, and that lift always operates perpendicular to the tangent of the average surface. Probably best not to crow about having completely misunderstood aerodynamics.
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cikljamas

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #76 on: July 23, 2017, 11:49:13 AM »
Going back to your initial assertion, for the entirety of its existence, Piltdown Man was viewed with quite a bit of skepticism. In all areas of research, some paths of investigation are dead ends. Eventually, lines that prove useful, survive, while others die out. That, incidentally, is how evolution works.

" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">link to youtube video presumed to be a

Paraphrasing InFlatEarth: "If you give them videos, they will believe it, without questions, as long as it fits into their narrative. They will also defend it to the max."

This is certainly true for the anti-science crowd; strident voutube videos based on bad data, poor logic, fuzzy thinking, and misinformation seem to be the main vector for their message.

Can you provide a transcript of that video or a synopsis of its argument? If you can't clearly describe what it's saying, you must not understand it. Do you have anything other than (a) video(s) to bolster whatever argument you're trying to make, or are you just trying to hammer home the point about believing videos you want to believe?

--A major aspect of the abiogenesis question is “What is the minimum number of parts necessary for an autotrophic free living organism to live, and could these parts assemble by naturalistic means?”  Research shows that at the lowest level this number is in the multimillions, producing an irreducible level of complexity that cannot be bridged by any known natural means.
--Abiogenesis is only one area of research which illustrates that the naturalistic origin of life hypothesis has become less and less probable as molecular biology has progressed, and is now at the point that its plausibility appears outside the realm of probability.  Numerous origin-of-life researchers, have lamented the fact that molecular biology during the past half-a-century has not been very kind to any naturalistic origin-of-life theory.  Perhaps this explains why researchers now are speculating that other events such as panspermia or an undiscovered “life law” are more probable than all existing terrestrial abiogenesis theories, and can better deal with the many seemingly insurmountable problems of abiogenesis.
READ MORE : https://www.trueorigin.org/abio.php

 At the most recent debate in 2004, at New York University, he declared that he ‘now accepted the existence of a God’ (p. 74). In that debate, he said that he believed that the origin of life points to a creative Intelligence,

    ‘almost entirely because of the DNA investigations. What I think the DNA material has done is that it has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved in getting these extraordinarily diverse elements to work together. It’s the enormous complexity of the number of elements and the enormous subtlety of the ways they work together. The meeting of these two parts at the right time by chance is simply minute. It is all a matter of the enormous complexity by which the results were achieved, which looked to me like the work of intelligence’ (p. 75).

DNA
The complexity of the genetic code led Flew to believe that the origin of life required a ‘creative intelligence’.

Flew was particularly impressed with a physicist’s refutation of the idea that monkeys at typewriters would eventually produce a Shakespearean sonnet. The likelihood of getting one Shakespearean sonnet by chance is one in 10^690; to put this number in perspective, there are only 10^80 particles in the universe. Flew concludes:

    ‘If the theorem won’t work for a single sonnet, then of course it’s simply absurd to suggest that the more elaborate feat of the origin of life could have been achieved by chance’ (p. 78).
Infinite monkey theorem : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

 Many atheists say that religion is inherently unreasonable, and that if someone comes to faith in any deity, it is only because of a religious experience that is best unverifiable and at worst a form of delusion. However, Flew’s deistic argument is useful in that he, using arguments completely on the natural level, makes a powerful argument for God’s existence.

    ‘I must stress that my discovery of the Divine has proceeded on a purely natural level, without any reference to supernatural phenomena. It has been an exercise in what has traditionally been called natural theology. It has had no connection with any of the revealed religions. Nor do I claim to have had any personal experience of God or any experience that may be called supernatural or miraculous. In short, my discovery of the Divine has been a pilgrimage of reason and not of faith’ (p. 93).

Readers looking for an apologetic for Christianity will be disappointed, but the book is a good read. The book is powerful evidence that one can come to a belief in theism purely from the evidence. It is also a lesson that design alone is not enough for saving faith; that needs special revelation, which is likewise backed up by credible historical evidence as Habermas and Wright showed.

READ MORE : http://creation.com/review-there-is-a-god-by-antony-flew
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #77 on: July 23, 2017, 12:02:06 PM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!

This is an irrelevant argument. It's also flawed because pilots don't have to keep dipping their airplanes to maintain their altitude.

Irrelevant that we have testimony that the earth has no curvature???

It prove the point that you have the Piltdown Man Syndrome , to believe every lie that fits into your narrative...

You got your ass COMPLETELY kicked, and claim victory?


You can't even be honest with YOURSELF!

The pilot has not come back yet, I guess the gyroscope is a valid question...
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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InFlatEarth

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #78 on: July 23, 2017, 12:04:37 PM »
You claimed it was easy to do, so do it.

He should put up or shut up, as easy as that.

Just go forth, IFE, we're waiting.

Your religion has been debunked. It over, finito, adeols amigo

Still dodging, I see.

Just a quick reminder in case you forgot: The topic at hand is how you would calculate the height and the diameter of the Sun on a flat Earth since you claimed the current FET got it all wrong and it would be easy for you to calculate it right.
So just go forth, we're waiting.
Bonus points for drawing the FBD on your precious flat Earth Sun when you finished the calculation.  ;D

Wrong, the topic at hand is "How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?"
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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InFlatEarth

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #79 on: July 23, 2017, 12:06:12 PM »
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Something that has been disproved?


Your religion crumbled today, on a Sunday when the airplane pilot confirmed that he does not dip his airplane when he flys from the USA to Japan.

No Curvature at all.

No, that was you completely failing to understand his description of not needing to manually "dip" the plane as long as you tell it to maintain a constant altitude, and that lift always operates perpendicular to the tangent of the average surface. Probably best not to crow about having completely misunderstood aerodynamics.

Gyroscopes don't lie, I wish I could say the same about the Heliocentric Priests...
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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Badxtoss

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #80 on: July 23, 2017, 12:07:40 PM »
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Something that has been disproved?


Your religion crumbled today, on a Sunday when the airplane pilot confirmed that he does not dip his airplane when he flys from the USA to Japan.

No Curvature at all.

No, that was you completely failing to understand his description of not needing to manually "dip" the plane as long as you tell it to maintain a constant altitude, and that lift always operates perpendicular to the tangent of the average surface. Probably best not to crow about having completely misunderstood aerodynamics.

Gyroscopes don't lie, I wish I could say the same about the Heliocentric Priests...
You made the claim, were you lying?  Why won't you support your own claim?

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #81 on: July 23, 2017, 12:09:01 PM »
Going back to your initial assertion, for the entirety of its existence, Piltdown Man was viewed with quite a bit of skepticism. In all areas of research, some paths of investigation are dead ends. Eventually, lines that prove useful, survive, while others die out. That, incidentally, is how evolution works.

<link to youtube video presumed to be about "the impossibility of evolution">

Paraphrasing InFlatEarth: "If you give them videos, they will believe it, without questions, as long as it fits into their narrative. They will also defend it to the max."

This is certainly true for the anti-science crowd; strident voutube videos based on bad data, poor logic, fuzzy thinking, and misinformation seem to be the main vector for their message.

Can you provide a transcript of that video or a synopsis of its argument? If you can't clearly describe what it's saying, you must not understand it. Do you have anything other than (a) video(s) to bolster whatever argument you're trying to make, or are you just trying to hammer home the point about believing videos you want to believe?

--A major aspect of the abiogenesis question is “What is the minimum number of parts necessary for an autotrophic free living organism to live, and could these parts assemble by naturalistic means?”  Research shows that at the lowest level this number is in the multimillions, producing an irreducible level of complexity that cannot be bridged by any known natural means.
--Abiogenesis is only one area of research which illustrates that the naturalistic origin of life hypothesis has become less and less probable as molecular biology has progressed, and is now at the point that its plausibility appears outside the realm of probability.  Numerous origin-of-life researchers, have lamented the fact that molecular biology during the past half-a-century has not been very kind to any naturalistic origin-of-life theory.  Perhaps this explains why researchers now are speculating that other events such as panspermia or an undiscovered “life law” are more probable than all existing terrestrial abiogenesis theories, and can better deal with the many seemingly insurmountable problems of abiogenesis.
READ MORE : https://www.trueorigin.org/abio.php

 At the most recent debate in 2004, at New York University, he declared that he ‘now accepted the existence of a God’ (p. 74). In that debate, he said that he believed that the origin of life points to a creative Intelligence,

    ‘almost entirely because of the DNA investigations. What I think the DNA material has done is that it has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved in getting these extraordinarily diverse elements to work together. It’s the enormous complexity of the number of elements and the enormous subtlety of the ways they work together. The meeting of these two parts at the right time by chance is simply minute. It is all a matter of the enormous complexity by which the results were achieved, which looked to me like the work of intelligence’ (p. 75).

DNA
The complexity of the genetic code led Flew to believe that the origin of life required a ‘creative intelligence’.

Flew was particularly impressed with a physicist’s refutation of the idea that monkeys at typewriters would eventually produce a Shakespearean sonnet. The likelihood of getting one Shakespearean sonnet by chance is one in 10^690; to put this number in perspective, there are only 10^80 particles in the universe. Flew concludes:

    ‘If the theorem won’t work for a single sonnet, then of course it’s simply absurd to suggest that the more elaborate feat of the origin of life could have been achieved by chance’ (p. 78).
Infinite monkey theorem : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

 Many atheists say that religion is inherently unreasonable, and that if someone comes to faith in any deity, it is only because of a religious experience that is best unverifiable and at worst a form of delusion. However, Flew’s deistic argument is useful in that he, using arguments completely on the natural level, makes a powerful argument for God’s existence.

    ‘I must stress that my discovery of the Divine has proceeded on a purely natural level, without any reference to supernatural phenomena. It has been an exercise in what has traditionally been called natural theology. It has had no connection with any of the revealed religions. Nor do I claim to have had any personal experience of God or any experience that may be called supernatural or miraculous. In short, my discovery of the Divine has been a pilgrimage of reason and not of faith’ (p. 93).

Readers looking for an apologetic for Christianity will be disappointed, but the book is a good read. The book is powerful evidence that one can come to a belief in theism purely from the evidence. It is also a lesson that design alone is not enough for saving faith; that needs special revelation, which is likewise backed up by credible historical evidence as Habermas and Wright showed.

READ MORE : http://creation.com/review-there-is-a-god-by-antony-flew

Thanks. That's about origin of life rather than evolution, despite what the teaser says. Those are different topics.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #82 on: July 23, 2017, 12:27:08 PM »
Yeah, scientists nowadays really are stupid. I mean, we all know that the sun is flat, so the earth probably is flat too. Why they ignore this fact I don`t know.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #83 on: July 23, 2017, 12:32:14 PM »
Yeah, scientists nowadays really are stupid. I mean, we all know that the sun is flat, so the earth probably is flat too. Why they ignore this fact I don`t know.

To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #84 on: July 23, 2017, 12:36:19 PM »
Yeah, scientists nowadays really are stupid. I mean, we all know that the sun is flat, so the earth probably is flat too. Why they ignore this fact I don`t know.


Thanks.  I love the Beatles.  Plus all those shots of sunrise and set prove the globe!  Well done!

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #85 on: July 23, 2017, 12:42:29 PM »
Yeah, scientists nowadays really are stupid. I mean, we all know that the sun is flat, so the earth probably is flat too. Why they ignore this fact I don`t know.



I don`t know what you want to say with this. That is no proof that the sun is round...

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #86 on: July 23, 2017, 12:46:06 PM »
You claimed it was easy to do, so do it.

He should put up or shut up, as easy as that.

Just go forth, IFE, we're waiting.

Your religion has been debunked. It over, finito, adeols amigo

Still dodging, I see.

Just a quick reminder in case you forgot: The topic at hand is how you would calculate the height and the diameter of the Sun on a flat Earth since you claimed the current FET got it all wrong and it would be easy for you to calculate it right.
So just go forth, we're waiting.
Bonus points for drawing the FBD on your precious flat Earth Sun when you finished the calculation.  ;D

Wrong, the topic at hand is "How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?"

Do you really want to go down that road? I could start a thread with your claim for everyone to see, how about that?
Grow some balls.  ::)
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #87 on: July 23, 2017, 12:46:33 PM »
I thought I would show these Heliocentric Priest what good music sounds like, nothing more.
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #88 on: July 23, 2017, 12:47:42 PM »
You claimed it was easy to do, so do it.

He should put up or shut up, as easy as that.

Just go forth, IFE, we're waiting.

Your religion has been debunked. It over, finito, adeols amigo

Still dodging, I see.

Just a quick reminder in case you forgot: The topic at hand is how you would calculate the height and the diameter of the Sun on a flat Earth since you claimed the current FET got it all wrong and it would be easy for you to calculate it right.
So just go forth, we're waiting.
Bonus points for drawing the FBD on your precious flat Earth Sun when you finished the calculation.  ;D

Wrong, the topic at hand is "How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?"

Do you really want to go down that road? I could start a thread with your claim for everyone to see, how about that?
Grow some balls.  ::)

Please do...
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2017, 12:51:02 PM »
I have the new anthem of NASA

To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun