High Altitude Amateur Weather Balloon proves Flat Earth

There are so many ways to go from here! So far, we know you don't understand lenses, you haven't seen my porno (I bet it was the barnacle video, then, that's a big hit for me), you know that there is a YouTube, and don't like rab. OH, and you don't think people will do stuff for an extra $50k of spending money. I almost forgot that.

I'm looking forward to the character development from here. Maybe some back story to build a little more of a personal relationship with the audience.

Quote from: rabinoz on July 08, 2017, 01:54:51 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 12:55:05 AM

Come on lads can't you do better.

I do not believe your claim "they have not used a fish eye lense". Probably not dishonesty, just your total ignorance.
This looks like, etc the same balloon flight,

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview, IndianaCaver

Look at the following screenshot from 11:00 in the above video.

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview at 11:00

Yes, Mr Resistance.is.Futile we know about "fish-eye lenses" and goPro cameras.

That is "NOT" the video I posted.

I see you are still employing the use of misdirection.

How can you prove what lense was used by posting videos that could have been altered.?

You are a proven liar your word is worthless.

 "FACT"

People that are telling the truth or think they are telling the truth do not need to employ the use of the said methods .

This link proves Rab is a " LIAR "

And will say anything and do anything to defend his Stange Heliocentric Religion.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71181.0

It is not the same video you posted. It is a video by the same person of the same event. He links to it in his own description of the video you posted. Your line of argument is that they are not using a fish eye lens and your OP video is genuine. Then all of a sudden the same camera from the same person showing a nice curved Earth in the same balloon ascent is altered?

You don't get to cherry pick the evidence that suits your case and ignore it when it inconveniently doesn't.

There are so many ways to go from here! So far, we know you don't understand lenses, you haven't seen my porno (I bet it was the barnacle video, then, that's a big hit for me), you know that there is a YouTube, and don't like rab. OH, and you don't think people will do stuff for an extra $50k of spending money. I almost forgot that.

I'm looking forward to the character development from here. Maybe some back story to build a little more of a personal relationship with the audience.

The amount of time it would consume having a cash generating youtube channel on flat earth would stop them making a decent living doing something else so it wouldn't be worth doing and as I said most of them won't even make that.

I don't like or dislike Rab I don't know him the fact of the matter is he is a liar this has been proven by Sandokhan.

People can and do make a living posting videos on YouTube. People can and do also maintain a real career at the same time as having YouTube careers. Why are Flat Earthers not capable of that? I think you are short changing FEers and their abilities.

Sandy proved something?? This has got to be a first. I'm not just going to accept that statement at face value.

There are so many ways to go from here! So far, we know you don't understand lenses, you haven't seen my porno (I bet it was the barnacle video, then, that's a big hit for me), you know that there is a YouTube, and don't like rab. OH, and you don't think people will do stuff for an extra $50k of spending money. I almost forgot that.

I'm looking forward to the character development from here. Maybe some back story to build a little more of a personal relationship with the audience.

Aha we have a pro here.....understanding optics and lenses and into people's management too....So you yourself have been to 120.000 feet using a camera with lenses you understand inside out and recorded a clear curve as one would expect form that height ?
Or you solely rely on secondary info which make your comments towards a flatearther kinda lame don't you think ?

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 06:11:11 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 08, 2017, 01:54:51 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 12:55:05 AM

Come on lads can't you do better.

I do not believe your claim "they have not used a fish eye lense". Probably not dishonesty, just your total ignorance.
This looks like, etc the same balloon flight,

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview, IndianaCaver

Look at the following screenshot from 11:00 in the above video.

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview at 11:00

Yes, Mr Resistance.is.Futile we know about "fish-eye lenses" and goPro cameras.

That is "NOT" the video I posted.

I see you are still employing the use of misdirection.

How can you prove what lense was used by posting videos that could have been altered.?

You are a proven liar your word is worthless.

 "FACT"

People that are telling the truth or think they are telling the truth do not need to employ the use of the said methods .

This link proves Rab is a " LIAR "

And will say anything and do anything to defend his Stange Heliocentric Religion.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71181.0

It is not the same video you posted. It is a video by the same person of the same event. He links to it in his own description of the video you posted. Your line of argument is that they are not using a fish eye lens and your OP video is genuine. Then all of a sudden the same camera from the same person showing a nice curved Earth in the same balloon ascent is altered?

You don't get to cherry pick the evidence that suits your case and ignore it when it inconveniently doesn't.

What are you talking about it shows a curve one way and a concave the other so the middle ground will be flat.

 

Quote from: boydster on July 08, 2017, 06:39:36 AM

There are so many ways to go from here! So far, we know you don't understand lenses, you haven't seen my porno (I bet it was the barnacle video, then, that's a big hit for me), you know that there is a YouTube, and don't like rab. OH, and you don't think people will do stuff for an extra $50k of spending money. I almost forgot that.

I'm looking forward to the character development from here. Maybe some back story to build a little more of a personal relationship with the audience.

Aha we have a pro here.....understanding optics and lenses and into people's management too....So you yourself have been to 120.000 feet using a camera with lenses you understand inside out and recorded a clear curve as one would expect form that height ?
Or you solely rely on secondary info which make your comments towards a flatearther kinda lame don't you think ?

So because someone used a fisheye lense and I noticed it, that means I must have sent a camera up to 100k+ feet in the sky?

I didn't ever claim I did that. But I can sure as shit tell when I look at both the video posted in the thread as well as the complete footage also available to the general public that it was taken with a fisheye lense. That's my first-hand evaluation of the source material the OP brought up.

That was a weak argument. SAD!

Fish eye lense or not it shows:

A FLAT PLANE.

Come on you Strange Heliocentric's debunk the video.

Should be easy to do as you claim curvature can be seen at 60000 ft and the balloon is at a claimed 120000 ft.

Do you accept you live on a flat earth.

Do you accept you Heliocentrics are both stupid and gullable.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is false.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 12:55:05 AM

Come on lads can't you do better.

I do not believe your claim "they have not used a fish eye lense". Probably not dishonesty, just your total ignorance.
This looks like, etc the same balloon flight,

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview, IndianaCaver

Look at the following screenshot from 11:00 in the above video.

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview at 11:00

Yes, Mr Resistance.is.Futile we know about "fish-eye lenses" and goPro cameras.

Goodness me, in the first video one might even think to catch a sight on a globe because of the lens distortion... 

Quote from: rabinoz on July 08, 2017, 01:54:51 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 12:55:05 AM

Come on lads can't you do better.

I do not believe your claim "they have not used a fish eye lense". Probably not dishonesty, just your total ignorance.
This looks like, etc the same balloon flight,

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview, IndianaCaver

Look at the following screenshot from 11:00 in the above video.

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview at 11:00

Yes, Mr Resistance.is.Futile we know about "fish-eye lenses" and goPro cameras.

Goodness me, in the first video one might even think to catch a sight on a globe because of the lens distortion... 

Come on that was a poor effort I expect better from you ; not very committed 

Apparently, flat earthers don't understand lenses and cameras.

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

I suggest you watch the losing my ride video posted by Rab I have covered this already.

It shows both a concaved image and a curved image the middle ground is a level plane on the horizontal axis.

Fish eye lense or not it shows:

A FLAT PLANE.

It shows a flat plane almost as well as similar videos show exaggerated curvature. And only when it's below the middle of the screen.

Lenses and scale, my friend.

Come on you Strange Heliocentric's debunk the video.

It was debunked already. In this thread, and also by another, longer video showing. You claimed it was a video taken without a fisheye camera that shows a flat Earth. Read the thread; the claim is debunked thoroughly.

Do you accept you live on a flat earth.

Do you accept you Heliocentrics are both stupid and gullable.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is false.

 

I like your tenacity though.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 12:08:02 PM

Fish eye lense or not it shows:

A FLAT PLANE.

It shows a flat plane almost as well as similar videos show exaggerated curvature. And only when it's below the middle of the screen.

Lenses and scale, my friend.

Quote

Come on you Strange Heliocentric's debunk the video.

It was debunked already. In this thread, and also by another, longer video showing. You claimed it was a video taken without a fisheye camera that shows a flat Earth. Read the thread; the claim is debunked thoroughly.

Quote

Do you accept you live on a flat earth.

Do you accept you Heliocentrics are both stupid and gullable.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is false.

 

I like your tenacity though.

No that explanation is not acceptable.

Your explanation is nonsense just like your strange Heliocentric Religion the fish eye lense shows concave one way and curvature the other how is that debunked ?

Any one with a Go Pro can verify this .

Try again.

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 02:38:07 PM

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

I suggest you watch the losing my ride video posted by Rab I have covered this already.

It shows both a concaved image and a curved image the middle ground is a level plane on the horizontal axis.

No, you didn't. It's clearly to see that in Rabs video the horizon appears to be flat when below the middle of the picture, one could even confirm that from the stand still picture of the video.
So again: What do you think might be the reason for that, granted you actually do know how fish eye lenses work like as obvioulsy used in that video?

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 02:52:28 PM

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 02:38:07 PM

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

I suggest you watch the losing my ride video posted by Rab I have covered this already.

It shows both a concaved image and a curved image the middle ground is a level plane on the horizontal axis.

No, you didn't. It's clearly to see that in Rabs video the horizon appears to be flat when below the middle of the picture, one could even confirm that from the stand still picture of the video.
So again: What do you think might be the reason for that, granted you actually do know how fish eye lenses work like as obvioulsy used in that video?

One extreme shows a concave image.

One extreme shows a curved Image.

The average is a flat plane.

No amount of misdirection and Bollocks can hide that; so say what you want the people reading the thread will make their own minds up the images are there to be observed.


Next please .......

Oh Futile come on you can do better. Don't bring this piece of processed crap! Really! Look at this straight antenna!



Oh come on flattard show all your LOLs and LIARs...

Oh Futile come on you can do better. Don't bring this piece of processed crap! Really! Look at this straight antenna!



Oh come on flattard show all your LOLs and LIAR7s...

What are you talking about ?

The Image of the Earth is Flat as it should be and everyone knows antenna's can bend slightly with motion .

Get this out of your head you are not superior to anyone everyone is equal.

You have just been systematically manipulated from an early age you are now just a Robot programmed to take orders.


I suggest you watch the video rather than posting your own images.

Stop talking your Heliocentric nonsense.

Your Heliocentric Religion is False.

Episode two is coming tomorrow

So just keep up the good work.

 

You see it doesn't matter how much crap, shit, trash and garbage you post.

This video is processed and corrected. The antenna isn't straight in the video and everyone can see it. The sides of the image are not normalized.

You see it doesn't matter how much crap, shit, trash and garbage you post.

This video is processed and corrected. The antenna isn't straight in the video and everyone can see it. The sides of the image are not normalized.

Stop talking nonsense no one beleIves  you .

Have you read the post.

If you have it is obvious to normal people you haven't got the intelligence to understand because your a pleb.

Go and serve your masters.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
 

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 03:03:28 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 02:52:28 PM

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 02:38:07 PM

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

I suggest you watch the losing my ride video posted by Rab I have covered this already.

It shows both a concaved image and a curved image the middle ground is a level plane on the horizontal axis.

No, you didn't. It's clearly to see that in Rabs video the horizon appears to be flat when below the middle of the picture, one could even confirm that from the stand still picture of the video.
So again: What do you think might be the reason for that, granted you actually do know how fish eye lenses work like as obvioulsy used in that video?

One extreme shows a concave image.

One extreme shows a curved Image.

The average is a flat plane.

No amount of misdirection and Bollocks can hide that; so say what you want the people reading the thread will make their own minds up the images are there to be observed.


Next please .......

Do you really have never taken into consideration when a fish eye lense shows a straight line in regard of what position that straight line shows up in the picture?
C'mon, that should actually be a quite easy task. Think that through again, and you should get to the conclusion very easily.

Quote from: neutrino on July 08, 2017, 03:31:03 PM

You see it doesn't matter how much crap, shit, trash and garbage you post.

This video is processed and corrected. The antenna isn't straight in the video and everyone can see it. The sides of the image are not normalized.

Stop talking nonsense no one beleIves  you .

Have you read the post.

If you have it is obvious to normal people you haven't got the intelligence to understand because your a pleb.

Go and serve your masters.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Can you ever just continue discussion and not derail the thread to a pathetic personal insults?  It sucks. Really.

You say no one believes me. So I suppose you are the everyone?

Yes I read the post, I watched the video entirely and I found an evidence of a processing (distortion correction). It is obvious. Anyone can draw a straight line parallel to that antenna in any frame of this video. Even you can. Then you will see that it is not straight.

Yeah yeah insulting, insulting... Can you focus on the matter?

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 03:11:52 PM

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 03:03:28 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 02:52:28 PM

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 02:38:07 PM

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

I suggest you watch the losing my ride video posted by Rab I have covered this already.

It shows both a concaved image and a curved image the middle ground is a level plane on the horizontal axis.

No, you didn't. It's clearly to see that in Rabs video the horizon appears to be flat when below the middle of the picture, one could even confirm that from the stand still picture of the video.
So again: What do you think might be the reason for that, granted you actually do know how fish eye lenses work like as obvioulsy used in that video?

One extreme shows a concave image.

One extreme shows a curved Image.

The average is a flat plane.

No amount of misdirection and Bollocks can hide that; so say what you want the people reading the thread will make their own minds up the images are there to be observed.


Next please .......

Do you really have never taken into consideration when a fish eye lense shows a straight line in regard of what position that straight line shows up in the picture?
C'mon, that should actually be a quite easy task. Think that through again, and you should get to the conclusion very easily.

Give it up.

You are fooling no one apart from yourself anyone that can understand basic logic can see you:

Don't understand what's been said.

OR  you are a liar who will say anything that will reinforce your Strange Heliocentric Religion.

Get this into your head "You are not superior"

You come across as stupid and gullable;  or you are a Liar which one is it.?

I'm looking forward to episode two
 

I will say atleast you have the bollocks to come forward I respect that unlike many others.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 02:38:07 PM

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

I suggest you watch the losing my ride video posted by Rab I have covered this already.

It shows both a concaved image and a curved image the middle ground is a level plane on the horizontal axis.

Nope.  When it crosses the middle of the frame it is curved.  You can't just look at the extremes and average them.  You never even proved that the extremes are the same distance away from the center of the lens.  Fortunately you CAN look at it when it IS in the center and then it shows curved.  The only time it appears straight is when it is BELOW the center of the image where the lens will curve it the other way.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 02:52:28 PM

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 02:38:07 PM

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

I suggest you watch the losing my ride video posted by Rab I have covered this already.

It shows both a concaved image and a curved image the middle ground is a level plane on the horizontal axis.

Nope.  When it crosses the middle of the frame it is curved.  You can't just look at the extremes and average them.  You never even proved that the extremes are the same distance away from the center of the lens.  Fortunately you CAN look at it when it IS in the center and then it shows curved.  The only time it appears straight is when it is BELOW the center of the image where the lens will curve it the other way.

You can say what you want nobody will believe you apart from the others in your religion.

 

I never said anything even remotely similar of being superior, I for a fact just want you to learn and understand how fish eye lenses work and when they are supposed to show a straight line in regard of the position in the picture/video. Look it up for yourself, even google it and draw your own conclusions upon the videos provided here, rather than taking some stuff for granted by some YT warriors on clickbait mission.
If you could that in all sincerity I'll be fine enough.

Quote from: rabinoz on July 08, 2017, 01:54:51 AM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 12:55:05 AM

Come on lads can't you do better.

I do not believe your claim "they have not used a fish eye lense". Probably not dishonesty, just your total ignorance.
This looks like, etc the same balloon flight,

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview, Indiana Caver

Look at the following screenshot from 11:00 in the above video.

Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview at 11:00

Yes, Mr Resistance.is.Futile we know about "fish-eye lenses" and goPro cameras.

That is "NOT" the video I posted.

Lost your ability to read accurately again see! I said

I do not believe your claim "they have not used a fish eye lense". Probably not dishonesty, just your total ignorance.
This looks like, etc the same balloon flight,

Mr Resistance.is.Futile,

I see you are still employing the use of misdirection.
How can you prove what lense was used by posting videos that could have been altered.?

I never claimed that any lens was altered!
The part of the video you showed had the horizon below the centre, bending it down and
the screenshot I showed had the horizon above the centre, bending it up, apparently showing curvature.

That is just the nature of the "fish-eye" lens used.

You are a proven liar your word is worthless.

 "FACT"

People that are telling the truth or think they are telling the truth do not need to employ the use of the said methods .

This link proves Rab is a " LIAR "
And will say anything and do anything to defend his Stange Heliocentric Religion.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71181.0

No Mr Resistance.is.Futile I tell what I honestly believe is the truth and after you see the next two screenshots I trust even you might realise that!
This is from your video " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">
FLAT EARTH ADDICT 05 : 121,000 feet Little Piggy Cam High Altitude Balloon Flight, Flat Earth Addict
And this is from the other video " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview Indiana Caver
I do believe that any reasonable person, whether they believe that earth flat or a globe, will agree that
Now read my words carefully! I said that they look as though they come from the same balloon flight.

So as I said, quite truthfully, before. Look at the following screenshot from 11:00 in the above video.


Now, Mr Resistance.is.Futile, I am not a liar.
Otherwise, everyone will see you for what you are.

Quote from: frenat on July 08, 2017, 03:53:19 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 08, 2017, 02:52:28 PM

Quote from: Sentinel on July 08, 2017, 02:38:07 PM

You got me hooked I'll have to admit, so how about this one, RiF:
Have you ever wondered why fish eye lenses at that altitude only show what appears to be a flat horizon when it's actually below the middle of the picture and what might be the reason for that?

I suggest you watch the losing my ride video posted by Rab I have covered this already.

It shows both a concaved image and a curved image the middle ground is a level plane on the horizontal axis.

Nope.  When it crosses the middle of the frame it is curved.  You can't just look at the extremes and average them.  You never even proved that the extremes are the same distance away from the center of the lens.  Fortunately you CAN look at it when it IS in the center and then it shows curved.  The only time it appears straight is when it is BELOW the center of the image where the lens will curve it the other way.

You can say what you want nobody will believe you apart from the others in your religion.

 

Thank you for proving that you haven't watched the video.  Anyone who watches it will see it matches what I said.