You know since, as it seems to me, most of you people here are deluded to the idea that the Earth is round. Yet your on a Flat Earth Forum...... How stupid... Might as well call this "The Round Earth Society"....
If you can't stand debating your rubbish with others with contrary views, you might limit yourself to:
Flat Earth Believers A board for debate and discussion among Flat Earth Believers. |
Surely the best ways for
flat earthers to find weaknesses in their model, and they are numerous, is to debate them with "non-believers", but:
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!
Anyways...
So why do you believe in Gravity?
Because it works and explains the way objects "fall down".
At least in regions without extremely large mass/energy densities it behaves in exactly the way
Newton envisaged in his "Law of Universal Gravitation" f = G x m1 x m2 / d2
The most magical of bullshit.[/b]
Considering:
- its elementary particle, a graviton, has never been found.
Your statement would also imply that:
Discovery of Photon
The photon is known as the quantum of electromagnetic radiation. In physics, a quantum is a basic indivisible unit or state that may be present or absent but never stronger or weaker.
In 1905, Albert Einstein published a paper describing his discovery of the photoelectric effect where a photon acts like a particle.
Do you mind if I label your assertion as simple inane rubbish!
- We cannot measure gravity. (My favorite part is when Round Earther's believe it has been because their faith is hella strong.)
Completely untrue! Gravitation has been
directly measured numerous times, the first being in 1798/99.
The number of if simply a reflection of the difficulties involved and the fact the nobody denies that out knowledge of gravitation in incomplete.
I have a list of the results of 61 such experiments done up until the year 2000.
You might take a peek at
Would the Cavendish Experiment disprove FE? « Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 01:19:41 PM »Even CERN omits it from the Standard Model: explaining how the basic building blocks of matter interact, governed by four fundamental forces.
And the "four fundamental forces"
are:
Yes, number 4 is "Gravity". Gravitation is not omitted! It does not yet fit into the standard modej, but so what?
Nobody is claiming that our knowledge of the universe is complete.
Even Albert Einstein is reported to have said
“
The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”
―
Albert EinsteinFrom
Goodreads"So far so good, but...
...it is not time for physicists to call it a day just yet. Even though the Standard Model is currently the best description there is of the subatomic world, it does not explain the complete picture. The theory incorporates only three out of the four fundamental forces, omitting gravity."
Source: http://home.cern/about/physics/standard-model
OK, the "Standard Model . . . . does not explain the complete picture." So what?
Our knowledge is incomplete - who claims otherwise?
Your model of the flat earth is so incomplete that you don't have:
- a workable map, not even any agreement on the layout of the continents!
- a reasonable explanation of "why things fall down" - gravity!
- and innumerable other minor things like sunsets, lunar phases and eclipses or even solar eclipses.
About all flat earthers can agree on is "EARTH if FLAT!".
I wonder why... and I'm sure most of the responses for this will be "Despite its name, the weak force is much stronger than gravity but it is indeed the weakest of the other three." Copied and pasted from the same link. Because that's surely a sound rebuttal.
Sure "the weak force is much stronger than gravity"
but only over a very short range!Gravitation is much stronger than the "weak force" over larger distances. Only
gravitation and
electromagnetic forces are significant over distances much greater that the atomic scale.
Over very large distances,
gravitation dominates because astronomical objects are close to electrically neutral.
It is true that the "graviton" may not have been discovered, but you could also say that the photon was not "discovered" until 1905, though others, including
Isaac Newton, hypothesised the existence of "light corpuscles" centuries earlier.
This is only speculation, but hypothesising about
gravitons Energy and wavelength
The report on the discovery of gravitational waves specified, in regard to gravitons, that "assuming a modified dispersion relation for gravitational waves, our observations constrain the Compton wavelength of the graviton to be λg > 1013 km, which could be interpreted as a bound on the graviton mass mg < 1.2 × 10−22 eV/c2." This relation between wavelength and energy is calculated with the Planck-Einstein relation, the same formula which relates electromagnetic wavelength to photon energy.
Incomplete, more in Graviton, Energy and wavelength
In other words,
gravitons would have such a low energy that they may never be individually detected as
photons can.
Now you explain your "better" theory of "why things fall down", taking care to explain the measured variation of "
the acceleration rate of things falling down " with latitude and elevation!