Boat sinking or shrinking?

Hello TFET communty

The below videos prove boat sinking over horizon not shrinking . what's your answer?



or below video at 7:58 to 8:05

First video is easy. The boat is actually sinking under the water. Call the rescue boats!!! Or NASA CGI. Or waves in the way. Or atmospheric obscuration mixed together with refraction and perspective. 

This is one the most simple facts of life. If you have ever been to sea or stood on the shore and watched boats come and go as they sailed over the horizon.
A boat sailing away from you does appear to "shrink" or appear to get smaller as it gets farther away as it sails away to the horizon.
But once it gets to the horizon it does continue to "shrink" but it also appears to "sink" as it gets farther away beyond the horizon.
The hull of the boat will appear to "sink" first and finally the last you will see of that ship is the tip of the top of its mast.

If the earth was flat, the entire  boat would just appear to "shrink " but not "sink".
And if you had a powerful enough telescope you could keep the boat in sight no matter how far away it got or how small it appeared to be to the naked eye until it disappeared into the fog, mist or haze.

But since the earth is "round" once the boat passes over and  beyond the horizon and "sink" until it can no longer be  seen.
And it can not be restored to sight with a telescope.

Hello TFET communty

The below videos prove boat sinking over horizon not shrinking . what's your answer?



or below video at 7:58 to 8:05

In each of these videos, a haze can be seen rising from the water (indeed you can see a clear "height"). It is this haze, which diffracts light around, which causes them to appear to sink. The further the boat travels, the more haze you have to see through, until eventually it appears to sink, and naturally the haze from evaporating water is thickest closer to the water's surface so the bottom will disappear first, thus giving the illusion of the boat sinking.

In each of these videos, a haze can be seen rising from the water (indeed you can see a clear "height"). It is this haze, which diffracts light around, which causes them to appear to sink. The further the boat travels, the more haze you have to see through, until eventually it appears to sink, and naturally the haze from evaporating water is thickest closer to the water's surface so the bottom will disappear first, thus giving the illusion of the boat sinking.

So if the haze distorts the bottom of the boat making it appear to sink, why is the top of the boat coming downwards also?  The rest of the boat isn't getting distorted in any weird way as to support that the bottom only is being obscured from view and the image of the boat isn't getting distorted in the way that would line up with haze "diffracting" light. 
So how is this accomplished on the tall buildings also?  Is the haze in on the conspiracy?  Magically bending just the right amount of light, in just the right way, determined on the observer to hide the flat Earth?  So now even mother nature is a co-conspirator.
 
To be clear though, diffraction is not the same thing as refraction.  i.e. diffraction of light is how you get a rainbow.  It is usually attributed to the spreading of light through a prism of the spreading of light when going through small slits.

Quote from: aletanha on June 01, 2017, 06:03:16 PM

Hello TFET communty

The below videos prove boat sinking over horizon not shrinking . what's your answer?



or below video at 7:58 to 8:05

In each of these videos, a haze can be seen rising from the water (indeed you can see a clear "height"). It is this haze, which diffracts light around, which causes them to appear to sink. The further the boat travels, the more haze you have to see through, until eventually it appears to sink, and naturally the haze from evaporating water is thickest closer to the water's surface so the bottom will disappear first, thus giving the illusion of the boat sinking.

In reality, haze has very little to do with the sinking ship effect. It is simply due to the curvature of the earth.

Those who doubt would do well to talk to someone in the navy or someone involved in nautical matters for an explanation if they do not accept the explanations given on these posts..

I see no haze in those videos.
There is a distinct dividing line where the sea and sky appear to meet - the horizon. The distance to the horizon can be easily estimated by a simple formula.
One of these is : The distance "d" (in miles) is equal to the product of 1.22 (a constant) times the square root of the height of the observer "h" (in feet).
Navy lookouts are trained to estimate distances in that manner. A 6 feet tall person standing at sea level can see about 3 miles to the hotizon.  A person in the crow's nest on a ship, 100 feet above sea level, can see about 12.2 miles.

Those who have ever been to sea consider the flat earth idea of the sinking ship one of the most absurd and inane things they have ever read. Incidentally, if you are on a ship at sea, it looks as if you are standing in the middle of a flat circle. But the sea is actually sloping away from you in all directions as in the orange slice demonstration.

In the 2nd video, one was taken from a tower in Houston. The other was from or above  Reunion Tower in Dallas , 560 feet above ground level. The caption said 700 feet.

In each of these videos, a haze can be seen rising from the water (indeed you can see a clear "height"). It is this haze, which diffracts light around, which causes them to appear to sink. The further the boat travels, the more haze you have to see through, until eventually it appears to sink, and naturally the haze from evaporating water is thickest closer to the water's surface so the bottom will disappear first, thus giving the illusion of the boat sinking.

You can try to claim the haze will hide part of the ship, but it still wont make it appear to sink.
That would just mean more and more of the ship appears to disappear until you are left with just the top well above the water.
Instead what you have is the ship visibly appearing lower and lower, as if it was sinking into the water or going down a hill.

So no, haze does not explain it.

The haze diffracts the light from the water, making it appear to be at a higher level than it actually is. As the ship passes through more haze, the apparent water level rises, obscuring more of the ship from the bottom up, however in actuality it is merely passing through enough haze. This is also why the buildings 'sink'.

Of course, this is simply the best currently available theory (calm down: besides RE, naturally), and it may well be wrong.

The haze diffracts the light from the water, making it appear to be at a higher level than it actually is. As the ship passes through more haze, the apparent water level rises, obscuring more of the ship from the bottom up, however in actuality it is merely passing through enough haze. This is also why the buildings 'sink'.

Of course, this is simply the best currently available theory (calm down: besides RE, naturally), and it may well be wrong.

And like all FE theories, it is a poor theory trying to fit a flat earth into a round one. This is the fundamental flaw in FET advocates claiming they are using the Zetetic method in coming to their conclusions. None of the observations (apart from the most intellectually simplistic one that the "the earth looks flat") support a flat earth. Scientists historically believed the earth flat, as it was the prevailing theory of the time. It was through their observations (which were biased to try and fit what they could see into the flat earth they supposedly lived on) that they realised the earth could not be flat. Ships over the horizon is just one. Sunrise/sunset. Lunar eclipses. The seasons. Day and night on different parts of the earth. The observable stars rotating through the night and different in the Northern/Southern hemispheres. All these point clearly to a spherical planet. The FE "theories" that attempt to explain these are all necessarily weak. Spotlight sun, perspective, haze, etc. etc. All clearly nonsense.

To claim Flat Earthers are now going back to the Zetetic method simply suggests they are incapable of the intellect required to rationalise what is clearly observable to everyone else (historically and contemporaneously). With the technology we now have that proves beyond doubt the planet is spherical, such a flawed process of thinking is quite frankly embarrassing.

The haze diffracts the light from the water, making it appear to be at a higher level than it actually is. As the ship passes through more haze, the apparent water level rises, obscuring more of the ship from the bottom up, however in actuality it is merely passing through enough haze. This is also why the buildings 'sink'.

Of course, this is simply the best currently available theory (calm down: besides RE, naturally), and it may well be wrong.

And that is just nonsense.
The shipping passing through the haze will have no effect on the apparent water level around it.
If that was the case the water would appear higher all around the boat to begin with and as it went off into the distance the haze would start obscuring some of it.
Instead we get it go to the very horizon, where it is sitting on top of the water with no more water higher behind it, and then it goes over and starts to sink.

So once again, the haze doesn't help.