USA is coming home! (from Syria)

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Pezevenk

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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2018, 07:57:37 AM »
Shame on you mister. PKK is a terrorist organization kills innocents like you.

I don't kill innocents :o

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But you have a sensitivity about islamic terror but when issue comes to Kurdish terror then they become to freedom fighters. You are hypocrital.

Fighting to have a country for your people and fighting to impose your religion on other people are two completely different things really... I mean, if that made you a terrorist, then both my ancestors and your ancestors are terrorists, so...

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Yes I know Kurds better than you know. Because we have 15 million Kurds in our country I know hundreds of them. You meeted a few ones Kurds then become a Kurdist master. Get out of here you terrorist supporter.
I really don't think the amount of Kurdish people one knows is an indicator of how right they are about the situation...
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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2018, 08:22:28 AM »
You're killing innocent by supporting the terrorists:

These are between 2003 to 2011. There was more in earlier of that date but al jazeera only listed them between this dates.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2011/10/20111019164441520246.html

The PKK took up arms against Turkey in 1984 with the aim of creating an ethnic homeland in the southeast. More than 40,000 people have been killed in the conflict since then.

Following is a chronology of some of the recent major attacks and bombings in Turkey:

November 15, 2003 - Thirty people are killed and 146 wounded when car bombs shatter two synagogues in Istanbul. Authorities name two men from southeast Turkey as the suicide bombers, saying the attacks bear the hallmarks of the al Qaeda network.

November 20, 2003 - Thirty-two people are killed and many wounded in two explosions in Istanbul. Part of the HSBC Bank headquarters is destroyed. The British consulate is damaged.

June 24, 2004 - Four people are killed and 15 wounded in an explosion in Istanbul, before former U.S. President George W. Bush was due to arrive in the city.

July 2, 2005 - Six people are killed and 15 injured after a bomb planted by Kurdish guerrillas explodes on a train between the eastern towns of Elazig and Tatvan in Bingol province.

July 6, 2005 - A bomb rips through a minibus in the western holiday resort of Kusadasi, killing at least five people, including a British woman and an Irish woman.

February 13, 2006 - Six people are injured, one seriously, after a bomb explodes at a supermarket on the European side of Istanbul. The Kurdistan Liberation Hawks (TAK) claim responsibility for the blast and pledge more attacks.

June 25, 2006 - A blast tears through a tourist area about 100 km east of the southern resort of Antalya, killing four and injuring 28. The Kurdistan Freedom Hawks (TAK), a group liked to the PKK, claims responsibility.

August 27, 2006 - Ten Britons and six Turks are wounded when their minibus is blown up in the tourist town of Marmaris on the Mediterranean coast. Five others are hurt by two other bombs.

August 28, 2006 - Three people are killed and 87 injured in a blast in Antalya, southern Turkey. The TAK claim responsibility.



Who are the PKK?

September 12, 2006 - A bomb blast kills 10 people, eight of them children, near a park in Diyarbakir, the largest city of Turkey's restive, mainly Kurdish southeast region.

May 22, 2007 - Six Turks are killed in a suicide bombing at the entrance to a mall in the historic Ulus district of Ankara. Ninety-one people are injured.

September 27, 2007 - Two Turkish gendarme officers are killed when a mine laid by Kurdish separatists explodes in Bitlis province in eastern Turkey.

January 3, 2008 - A bomb attack on a military service vehicle outside a school kills at least five students and injures 110 in Diyarbakir.

May 9, 2008 - Three people are killed and five wounded when a land mine detonated by Kurdish guerrillas destroys their minibus in Batman province, southeast Turkey.

July 9, 2008 - Three police officers are killed in a shooting outside the US consulate in Istanbul.

April 29, 2009 - PKK militants detonate bomb which rips through armored vehicles on patrol, killing nine Turkish soldiers in Diyarbakir province.

May 4, 2009 - Gunmen armed with rifles and grenades attack a wedding party in southeastern Turkey on Monday, killing at least 44 people in what was linked to a feud between families.

May 31, 2010 - Six Turkish soldiers were killed and nine wounded in a rocket attack on a naval base in the Mediterranean port city of Iskenderun.

June 19, 2010 - Turkish troops and Kurdish militants clash at Semdinli near the Iraqi border in a firefight which kills 11 soldiers and 12 rebels.

Sept 16, 2010 - A roadside bomb kills 10 people and wounds three when it explodes under their minibus in Hakkari.

July 14, 2011 - Kurdish fighters kill 13 Turkish soldiers in what was worst clash since the PKK ended their latest ceasefire in February. Seven militants are also killed.

August 17, 2011 - The PKK attack a military convoy at Cukurca in southeast Turkey's Hakkari province. Eight soldiers and one member of the state-backed village guard militia are killed and 15 others are wounded.

September 20, 2011  - A car bomb explodes in a street in the capital Ankara near a neighborhood housing government buildings, killing four people and wounding 15. The TAK claim responsibility for the attack and vow to carry out more raids in Turkish cities.

September 20, 2011 - Kurdish guerrillas attack a police college in southeastern Siirt province, killing four people in a passing vehicle.

September 24, 2011 - Kurdish guerrillas armed with rocket launchers attack a police station in Siirt, killing five police officers and wounding nine.

October 18, 2011 - A roadside bomb planted by suspected Kurdish rebels exploded in the Guroymak district of southeastern Bitlis province, killing five policemen and three civilians, including a child.

These are separalist innocent civilians, true?

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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2018, 08:33:11 AM »
You're living out a major part of the picture, which is the tens of thousands of innocent Kurdish civilians who have been killed by the Turkish government over the years, those arrested and tortured for basically no reason, or the banning of their language, or them being prohibited in many instances from forming political parties, or the fact that they offered a ceasefire in 2013, which Erdogan ended after he bombed them again in 2015, or that the vast majority of those 40,000 people who have been killed were kurdish.
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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2018, 08:37:04 AM »
Also some of the stuff you mentioned has very little to do with the PKK, and more to do with feuds, or some other organization. Actually some of most major attacks presented here aren't even from the PKK.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2018, 08:40:37 AM by Pezevenk »
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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2018, 08:47:59 AM »
Oh, that's hilarious, you included the attack of September 12, 2006 in Diyarbakir, that attack was not even done by Kurds, it was done by the Turkish Revenge Brigade, which is a Turkish organization fighting AGAINST the PKK. But it's made to look like the PKK did it, even though it was done against them, because it's evidently a biased source.
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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2018, 09:43:49 AM »
If the US troops really will leave NE Syria, then their place will be taken by UAE/SA troops, which have a vested interest in attacking Turkey, a Turk-Arab war.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181122-saudi-arabia-uae-send-troops-to-support-kurds-in-syria/

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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #36 on: December 25, 2018, 03:27:44 AM »
If the US troops really will leave NE Syria, then their place will be taken by UAE/SA troops, which have a vested interest in attacking Turkey, a Turk-Arab war.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181122-saudi-arabia-uae-send-troops-to-support-kurds-in-syria/

Interesting twist.   Arab unity is a thing?
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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2018, 03:47:44 AM »
If the US troops really will leave NE Syria, then their place will be taken by UAE/SA troops, which have a vested interest in attacking Turkey, a Turk-Arab war.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181122-saudi-arabia-uae-send-troops-to-support-kurds-in-syria/

It was in the table for a while but I think it is an old project after now.

Usa support to Arabs was aiming to stop Iran at start. But after a while it has turned to agressivity like events in Yemen. Process started Yemen has not been familiar in mind of rest of west, Un and other partners. In this respect, negative process about Saudi P.Salman is another step. Shortly maybe it is still on the table, it was so, but I think it is not in the matter after now. At least I hope this. On the other hand Arabs were lost almost all wars against Turks. They had got ride of Turks by help of England. Maybe a day Turks can occupy Arab lands again but opposite is mentally hard, even Arabs got good guns by USA. In other say they never can dare this.

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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2018, 05:22:43 AM »
Take a look at what is happening around Turkey's borders, from Cyprus to Iraq. The secular military intelligence of Syria has close ties to the secular Kurds, who are allowing UAE/SA troops to build garrisons near their northern border with Turkey. That is why Turkey is practically forced to intervene in Rojava in order to preempt the building of the military forces stacked up against it.

Do not believe for a second that such major decisions, as the withdrawal of US troops from Syria, are left to the whim of a real estate mogul.

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Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2018, 07:01:54 AM »
I know whats going on around. Turkey is a strong enough country others can not dare to do any action against it.

Re: USA is coming home! (from Syria)
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2018, 06:38:08 PM »
its funny how Americans were criticizing Putin and Russia for going into Syria to fight Isis. And now Trump has the nerve to claim the victory over Isis? Yes Isis is defeated but defeated by Russia not U.S. This is nothing new thou. Americans took credit for winning WW2, while it was Russia who defeated Hitler. Fuck Trump. LOL
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