Is Science the new Religion ?

All we know is what we are shown.

I think some aspects of science require a great deal of faith just like a religion.

We all obviously know that science works because we put fuel in our car and it moves
 or we apply heat to water and it boils.

When a scientist says that two black holes have collided one hundred thousand light years away that requires a huge amount of faith, to believe that he/she is telling the truth; as there is no way for most people to verify their observation.

We all know religion works the main monotheistic religions are based on a race of people from the middle east and now after thousands of years the world helped some of them set a nation up in their homeland.

When a Vicar/Priest says That a man called Noah built a boat and all the animals where able to fit on it with Noah and his family also requires a huge amount of faith, to believe that he/she is telling the truth; as there is no way for most people to verify what has been written.

When someone doesn't believe in a popular hypothesis they are looked at by the believers in a negative way.

When someone doesn't believe in a religion they are looked at by the believers in a negative way.

Is Science the new religion ?

All we know is what we are shown.

I think some aspects of science require a great deal of faith just like a religion.

We all obviously know that science works because we put fuel in our car and it moves
 or we apply heat to water and it boils.

When a scientist says that two black holes have collided one hundred thousand light years away that requires a huge amount of faith, to believe that he/she is telling the truth; as there is no way for most people to verify their observation.

We all know religion works the main monotheistic religions are based on a race of people from the middle east and now after thousands of years the world helped some of them set a nation up in their homeland.

When a Vicar/Priest says That a man called Noah built a boat and all the animals where able to fit on it with Noah and his family also requires a huge amount of faith, to believe that he/she is telling the truth; as there is no way for most people to verify what has been written.

When someone doesn't believe in a popular hypothesis they are looked at by the believers in a negative way.

When someone doesn't believe in a religion they are looked at by the believers in a negative way.

Is Science the new religion ?

Science on the other hand relies on proof.

I don't think what I said has been understood  I can verify that my computer works as It comes in pieces,motherboard ,graphics card ect I build it then plug it in and it works.

How can I verify that two black holes collided one hundred thousand light years away ?

If this can't be verified by myself it then requires a massive amount of faith for me to believe what the scientists have observed is true  just as religion requires a massive amount of faith to believe what has been written is true.

Is science the new religion.?

I don't think what I said has been understood  I can verify that my computer works as It comes in pieces,motherboard ,graphics card ect I build it then plug it in and it works.

How can I verify that two black holes collided one hundred thousand light years away ?

If this can't be verified by myself it then requires a massive amount of faith for me to believe what the scientists have observed is true  just as religion requires a massive amount of faith to believe what has been written is true.

Is science the new religion.?

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on May 19, 2017, 12:55:01 AM

I don't think what I said has been understood  I can verify that my computer works as It comes in pieces,motherboard ,graphics card ect I build it then plug it in and it works.

How can I verify that two black holes collided one hundred thousand light years away ?

If this can't be verified by myself it then requires a massive amount of faith for me to believe what the scientists have observed is true  just as religion requires a massive amount of faith to believe what has been written is true.

Is science the new religion.?

So you think science is a religion because you, personally, cannot verify every finding.
Be reasonable! How would it ever have been possible for any one person to verify personally every finding in science.

But, what can be done is to seek independent evidence for any new "discovery". That is the way science works.
One group announces something like, say, "cold fusion" (an actual case).
But other scientists are rather skeptical of that being possible, so the finding is not widely accepted unril it is replicated a few times by other groups (and it could not be replicated.).

Not being a scientist, but interested in these things,
when new discoveries come up that I am doubtful of, I think "Isn't that intesesting!", but remain sceptical until the finding is verified.

So, when it comes to "How can I verify that two black holes collided one hundred thousand light years away?"
Well, personally, neither you nor I can, but does it matter? It won't affect your life if you believe it or reminder sceptical.

When it comes to findings that might affect you personally, such as a new medical treatment, all you can do is think "That's nice, it might treat my problem, but I'll wait till it is confirmed by others".

So, while I do not agree that science is a religion, there will always be the problem that we, personally, cannot verify everything and there are many questionable "findings".

There are many "pseudo-scientific" reports of things like "free-energy machines" or "magical medical treatments".
To guard against this sort of thing some grounding in the basics of science is very important for everyone.
At least enough else to hammer home the point that you never get something for nothing (so no free energy) and you can't even break even (so no perpetual motion machines).  It's also good financial advice. 

Sorry, I did not mean to ramble on again!

totally agree on that Hannibaal.
though, science and religion are equally old since the first self consious human being walked on the surface of the Earth. Humans have always been occupied by explaining their surroundings, explolations and learnings from earlier mistakes or learning from each other or from observations.
at first religion and science were very close to each other but even then those two were extensions of each other...
and just like Hannibaal said...it should be extentions of each other now too.

All we know is what we are shown.

I think some aspects of science require a great deal of faith just like a religion.
We all obviously know that science works because we put fuel in our car and it moves
 or we apply heat to water and it boils.

When a scientist says that two black holes have collided one hundred thousand light years away that requires a huge amount of faith, to believe that he/she is telling the truth; as there is no way for most people to verify their observation.

Anything that requires a great amount of faith to be believed has to be a religion.

Some people are stupid and gullible so they believe anything.

Alot of science is hard to believe we are told for example:

The earth is a globe

We are shown some CGI Images and then expected to believe in this globe theory.

I'm not really bothered what shape the earth is or if scientist's are lieing or telling the truth it makes no difference to my life.

That said until something can be verified by myself I do not believe it.

If the majority of people do not deny the existence of a spiritual side or aspect of life besides the material/physical part, then why does modern science do?

Science was religion in all past of the world. But it was accepting the God. But updated fake/Darwinist science made a coap to real science. This is a religion too but denying to the real science. It should be destroyed is an Emergency coded task.

@Coffercrisp
An interesting point about only the "best" being chosen; could it be that the people who determine who the best are could be looking for intelligent but gullible easily manipulated people who will not go against an already established hypothesis.
For example Einstein over Tesla

Einstein had theorys that nobody could verify.

Tesla had inventions people are still using today but Einstein was generally presented in my  English education as being superior.

@Canadabear
Thank you for the offer but unfortunately I'm really busy this year so will not have time to travel to Canada to witness this curvature you speak of as I'm from England.

Do any of you know where in England I can witness this curvature you speak of.

Quote from: Hannibaal on May 19, 2017, 03:48:20 AM

If the majority of people do not deny the existence of a spiritual side or aspect of life besides the material/physical part, then why does modern science do?

I don't think science denies the spiritual and metaphysical, rather it has no comment on it. Not being testable, it is outside science's domain.

That's not to say there aren't plenty of scientists with opinions on religion, though..

Anything that requires a great amount of faith to be believed has to be a religion.

Some people are stupid and gullible so they believe anything.

Alot of science is hard to believe we are told for example:

The earth is a globe

We are shown some CGI Images and then expected to believe in this globe theory.

I'm not really bothered what shape the earth is or if scientist's are lieing or telling the truth it makes no difference to my life.

That said until something can be verified by myself I do not believe it.

the blue marble image is CGI so my claim is hardly baseless.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on May 19, 2017, 11:38:02 AM

the blue marble image is CGI so my claim is hardly baseless.

citation needed

Notes:
- There are multiple blue marble images, I'm talking about the original.
- CGI != photo editing.

Thanks for the info Canada Bear I will go to Lynton and will see if I can witness this curvature you speak of.
I believe the quick formula for curvature is miles squared multiplied by eight then divided by twelve to bring back to feet  I will see if this works out for the distances involved.

Science does require Faith for example Einsteins theory of relativity has never been verified as NOBODY has travelled at the speed of light but some people believe it because they have faith that Einsteins theory was correct and he was telling the truth and other scientists have done experiments that support Einsteins hypothesis which could be described as convinient as it would be in their financial interest to further exalt one of the science religions gods.

@Alpha2 omega the blue marble image is CGI so my claim is hardly baseless.
 
How other than witnessing curvature can the earth be proven a globe ?
As from what I've seen so far most of it also works on the geocentric model.


I think what makes a lot of people sceptical about the globe theory is that we have apparently been in space  thousands of times but there are very few pictures / images that stand up in photoshop.
For example if I was an astronaut I would simply put my mobile phone to the window and record the rocket taking off and docking at the space station in one unbroken real video;
 this has not been done yet even though mobiles have had cameras on for over ten years.
They could also make another Hubble type telescope launch it into deep space and set it up so it shows the earth and other planets orbiting the sun or the cheaper option would be to turn hubble round.This has not been done yet. ( can you see the pattern?)
I'm not saying the earth is flat because that is something I have yet to verify for myself but I struggle to understand why CGI has to be used when we have allegedly been in space thousands of times so it is not unreasonable for the millions of people to be sceptical about the globe theory.

The blue marble 2002 https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_2002.php

Notes:
- There are multiple blue marble images, I'm talking about the original.
- CGI != photo editing.