ISS fakery reaches new heights

His meaning was very clear.

I can say something "isn't unpleasant" instead of pleasant.

No crime against grammar.

Saying "it isn't not unpleasant", is a double negative.

Hoppy said.

"They cannot disbelieve something."

Which is fine.
Stop attacking flat earthers just because they're flat earthers.

Quote from: hoppy on May 04, 2017, 07:23:22 PM

You have to remember that you are dealing with brainwashed roundies. They cannot disbelieve something that NASA has told them is true.

But NASA did not tell me that the earth is a rotating Globe orbiting a very large distant sun.
I knew that well before NASA turn up.

So, try again little sheepie.

NASA says that now, so there is no way you that could form a different opinion. They tell you different times for space communications to work then show you videos with no delay in speaking and playing instruments. You believe all of their explanations, even though they are contraditory.

Quote from: rabinoz on May 04, 2017, 08:28:53 PM

Quote from: hoppy on May 04, 2017, 07:23:22 PM

You have to remember that you are dealing with brainwashed roundies. They cannot disbelieve something that NASA has told them is true.

But NASA did not tell me that the earth is a rotating Globe orbiting a very large distant sun.
I knew that well before NASA turn up.

So, try again little sheepie.

NASA says that now, so there is no way you that could form a different opinion. They tell you different times for space communications to work then show you videos with no delay in speaking and playing instruments. You believe all of their explanations, even though they are contraditory.

What has that to do with what I posted? Didn't your handlers instruct you properly?

NASA has nothing whatever to do with the question of whether the earth is flat or a Globe!

So in spending so much effort arrack in NASA you are wasting you time.
There was plenty of evidence of the Globe many centuries before NASA came along, but you waste all your time on NASA if you like.

And your pretend flat earth model explains almost nothing about the "real earth" - not shapes,  not distances, not the sun or moon's motions.

Nasa has a lot to do with the ISS however.

Nasa has a lot to do with the ISS however.

As do many other space agencies, and the private companies that are subcontracted to supply it.

NASA is not the sole arbiter of all things space related. It is not even the most important one at the moment.

People who doubt its existence should go outside when it passes overhead, tell me what it is. Maybe you could even try and photograph it or speak to the people on board.

http://www.ariss.org/contact-the-iss.html

If they were that concerned they would put some effort in.

The I for international was added when cooperation between countries commenced on the permanent space station, or PSS as it was known as.

Therefore the correct title is the Permanent International Space Station.
The PISS.

They are, of course, taking the piss with their stupid bullshit fake space antics.
Anyone remember the ammonia leaks a few years back? Smells like.....?

Yes, the ammonia leaks. Taking the piss out of the space station.
These people love to play funny games.
They love to use all variations of sexual stuff and their favourite is getting in as many variations of cock words into their space bullshit.
They love to name people, Dick and even use people to take on silly names.
Sally Ride or Mark Shuttleworth, etc.

You kn ow...it is rather funny the way they do it but what isn't funny is the way they literally rip off the public and blatantly take them for mugs...using their naivety to play out ridiculous games and scenarios.

They must literally be pissing themselves laughing when they think up this crap.
They even show you around NASA and say things like..."this is where it all happens in the model room" which is full of frigging lego pieces...as if building a frigging lego effigy is somehow going to aid in so called space exploration.

Anyone with just a small amount of common sense and logic who is awake enough can see that all of this stuff is a complete joke.

Quote from: Antirockballtheorist on May 03, 2017, 04:11:51 PM

The I for international was added when cooperation between countries commenced on the permanent space station, or PSS as it was known as.

Therefore the correct title is the Permanent International Space Station.
The PISS.

They are, of course, taking the piss with their stupid bullshit fake space antics.
Anyone remember the ammonia leaks a few years back? Smells like.....?

Yes, the ammonia leaks. Taking the piss out of the space station.
These people love to play funny games.
They love to use all variations of sexual stuff and their favourite is getting in as many variations of cock words into their space bullshit.
They love to name people, Dick and even use people to take on silly names.
Sally Ride or Mark Shuttleworth, etc.

That's right, because Mark Shuttleworth never existed as a private citizen before he paid his way into space. Sally Ride? No record of her anywhere I suppose. Does this game also work in Russian? Japanese? Chinese? Come on, this is desperate stuff even for you.

<usual guff snipped>

They even show you around NASA and say things like..."this is where it all happens in the model room" which is full of frigging lego pieces...as if building a frigging lego effigy is somehow going to aid in so called space exploration.

Proof?

Quote from: sceptimatic on May 04, 2017, 11:23:43 PM

Quote from: Antirockballtheorist on May 03, 2017, 04:11:51 PM

The I for international was added when cooperation between countries commenced on the permanent space station, or PSS as it was known as.

Therefore the correct title is the Permanent International Space Station.
The PISS.

They are, of course, taking the piss with their stupid bullshit fake space antics.
Anyone remember the ammonia leaks a few years back? Smells like.....?

Yes, the ammonia leaks. Taking the piss out of the space station.
These people love to play funny games.
They love to use all variations of sexual stuff and their favourite is getting in as many variations of cock words into their space bullshit.
They love to name people, Dick and even use people to take on silly names.
Sally Ride or Mark Shuttleworth, etc.

That's right, because Mark Shuttleworth never existed as a private citizen before he paid his way into space. Sally Ride? No record of her anywhere I suppose. Does this game also work in Russian? Japanese? Chinese? Come on, this is desperate stuff even for you.

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<usual guff snipped>

They even show you around NASA and say things like..."this is where it all happens in the model room" which is full of frigging lego pieces...as if building a frigging lego effigy is somehow going to aid in so called space exploration.

Proof?

The proof is all there. I'm not here proving anything to people like you. I'm well aware that people like you could be told directly by all the NASA that they've been taking the piss and are not a real space agency and you would still believe they went into space.

People like you are not interested in seeing anything untoward with anything given to you as a official line. I get that. I actually get that people like you want to believe everything told by official sources.

I understand that anything I say to you will be dismissed and that's absolutely fine with me, because I'm not here to prove anything to people like you.
I'm here to talk to people that have their minds switched on or who are logical enough to see past the game playing, public duping shenanigans that constantly get played against us.


Accept that and it'll stop you asking for proof of everything...especially when you can't even provide physical proof of what you claim.
Don't bother answering back to this. Take it for what it is and deal with it.

Quote from: disputeone on May 04, 2017, 09:55:23 PM

Nasa has a lot to do with the ISS however.

As do many other space agencies, and the private companies that are subcontracted to supply it.

NASA is not the sole arbiter of all things space related. It is not even the most important one at the moment.

No doubt.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on May 04, 2017, 11:27:29 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on May 04, 2017, 11:23:43 PM

Quote from: Antirockballtheorist on May 03, 2017, 04:11:51 PM

The I for international was added when cooperation between countries commenced on the permanent space station, or PSS as it was known as.

Therefore the correct title is the Permanent International Space Station.
The PISS.

They are, of course, taking the piss with their stupid bullshit fake space antics.
Anyone remember the ammonia leaks a few years back? Smells like.....?

Yes, the ammonia leaks. Taking the piss out of the space station.
These people love to play funny games.
They love to use all variations of sexual stuff and their favourite is getting in as many variations of cock words into their space bullshit.
They love to name people, Dick and even use people to take on silly names.
Sally Ride or Mark Shuttleworth, etc.

That's right, because Mark Shuttleworth never existed as a private citizen before he paid his way into space. Sally Ride? No record of her anywhere I suppose. Does this game also work in Russian? Japanese? Chinese? Come on, this is desperate stuff even for you.

Quote

<usual guff snipped>

They even show you around NASA and say things like..."this is where it all happens in the model room" which is full of frigging lego pieces...as if building a frigging lego effigy is somehow going to aid in so called space exploration.

Proof?

The proof is all there. I'm not here proving anything to people like you. I'm well aware that people like you could be told directly by all the NASA that they've been taking the piss and are not a real space agency and you would still believe they went into space.

People like you are not interested in seeing anything untoward with anything given to you as a official line. I get that. I actually get that people like you want to believe everything told by official sources.

I understand that anything I say to you will be dismissed and that's absolutely fine with me, because I'm not here to prove anything to people like you.
I'm here to talk to people that have their minds switched on or who are logical enough to see past the game playing, public duping shenanigans that constantly get played against us.


Accept that and it'll stop you asking for proof of everything...especially when you can't even provide physical proof of what you claim.
Don't bother answering back to this. Take it for what it is and deal with it.

There is a giant chasm in what passes for logic in you mind. In addition you have an unhealthy fixation with NASA.

Your belief system tends to rest on three notions. The first is that 'authority' what ever that happens to be is duping the 'public' whatever that happens to be. You have never defined the boundaries of the two groups nor explained the nature of this continual stream of misinformation.

The other is your vilification of NASA which you use to justify many of your beliefs. The problem here NASA is only one of the many space agencies in the world, and our knowledge of the shape of the earth and what we know about space predates the founding of NASA.

The third is the way you equate 'having an open mind' to only those who adhere to your line of reasoning, which at best can only be described as irrational and far from open minded.

If you did have an open mind you would spend more time really interrogating them, that is your beliefs,  rather than appearing to swallow them hook line and sinker.

For example you would have to take each of the space agencies here on earth and examine them for any covert signs of operation or acts of producing misinformation or malpractice in general

You would also have to go back to your authority claim and state who these authorities were and how they manage to operate in every country on the planet.

Until then your claims have no validity whatsoever and therefore must be labled as false. I suggest it is you that has lost the ability to think rationally and to demonstrate open minded thought.

I am a professional musician who played on live podia uncountable times and this time around i can detect the bullshit far better than you do !

Well my bullshit alarm went haywire just then.

A 'professional musician' who can't figure out that all Chris Hadfield has to do is play along to a feed sent to him?

The return signal is what he hears and what he plays combined and is what the audience back on the ground hears. A live band on Earth does not need to hear Hadfield playing his part or hear the return signal, they just need to keep their music in time and let him play his bit.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on May 04, 2017, 11:27:29 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on May 04, 2017, 11:23:43 PM

Quote from: Antirockballtheorist on May 03, 2017, 04:11:51 PM

The I for international was added when cooperation between countries commenced on the permanent space station, or PSS as it was known as.

Therefore the correct title is the Permanent International Space Station.
The PISS.

They are, of course, taking the piss with their stupid bullshit fake space antics.
Anyone remember the ammonia leaks a few years back? Smells like.....?

Yes, the ammonia leaks. Taking the piss out of the space station.
These people love to play funny games.
They love to use all variations of sexual stuff and their favourite is getting in as many variations of cock words into their space bullshit.
They love to name people, Dick and even use people to take on silly names.
Sally Ride or Mark Shuttleworth, etc.

That's right, because Mark Shuttleworth never existed as a private citizen before he paid his way into space. Sally Ride? No record of her anywhere I suppose. Does this game also work in Russian? Japanese? Chinese? Come on, this is desperate stuff even for you.

Quote

<usual guff snipped>

They even show you around NASA and say things like..."this is where it all happens in the model room" which is full of frigging lego pieces...as if building a frigging lego effigy is somehow going to aid in so called space exploration.

Proof?

The proof is all there.

Nope, it isn't.

I'm not here proving anything to people like you.

That's a handy coincidence.

I'm well aware that people like you could be told directly by all the NASA that they've been taking the piss and are not a real space agency and you would still believe they went into space.

You know nothing of the sort. It's what you've decided 'people like me' think because we've had the temerity to disagree with you.

People like you are not interested in seeing anything untoward with anything given to you as a official line. I get that. I actually get that people like you want to believe everything told by official sources.

I understand that anything I say to you will be dismissed and that's absolutely fine with me, because I'm not here to prove anything to people like you.

You aren't proving anything, so as a strategy that's working out just peachy.

I'm here to talk to people that have their minds switched on or who are logical enough to see past the game playing, public duping shenanigans that constantly get played against us.

You're pretty much talking to yourself then.

Accept that and it'll stop you asking for proof of everything...especially when you can't even provide physical proof of what you claim.

You have failed to provide one single iota of proof for anything you've claimed. I've provided plenty for things I have claimed. Even when you claimed to actually have it (which you didn't), it never arrived. If you are demanding physical proof of things then bring me back a piece of the dome.

If you make a baseless and utterly false claim you should have the balls to back it up - why should anyone accept it otherwise?

Don't bother answering back to this. Take it for what it is and deal with it.

Remember that Rage Against The Machine chorus?

That.

Quote from: dutchy on May 02, 2017, 02:04:51 PM

I am a professional musician who played on live podia uncountable times and this time around i can detect the bullshit far better than you do !

Well my bullshit alarm went haywire just then.

A 'professional musician' who can't figure out that all Chris Hadfield has to do is play along to a feed sent to him?

The return signal is what he hears and what he plays combined and is what the audience back on the ground hears. A live band on Earth does not need to hear Hadfield playing his part or hear the return signal, they just need to keep their music in time and let him play his bit.

Wowwww, you just explained a finilized master production, not a live performance IF DELAY (earth-ISS-earth) played a part in all of this.
With delay your explaination is trashcan worthy.
Earth's band playing-delay-ISS receives incoming signal of band-Chris plays along with incoming audio-delay-combined effort is audible for the audience.
The video is cut and piaste so we won't see any delay (Chris changing chords on the wrong moment and moving his lips with delay)
So we do see some post production then ??
''Áre you guys ready to do this'' ?, ''Chris ready to go ''? (answer without delay....) ''yes Ed i'm ready'' !
Then the performance starts and they play guitar and drum parts at the same suggested moment (video proof)....Chris changes chords and moves his lips at the same visible moment as the rest on earth.
This is a supposed live performance and the audio and matching video doesn't suggest any delay whatsoever. Delay cannot play a part whatsoever without destroying the credibilty of this performance one way or the other.
Are you suggesting there is absolutely no delay during this combined performance ?

Or do we witiness a cleverly edited musical ''production'' in which all feeds are matched into a supposed live performance both visual and audible ?

Why do NASA supporters always have to clean up the mess NASA is leaving behind.......you are sure you are not getting payed ?
Because if the band at my wedding would have faked themselves through my wedding this way,i would have kicked them out before the first interval, because playing a record is for free and i don't need a bunch of actors pretending they perform live   

On solid fuel and wires.
 

On solid fuel and wires.
 

Quote from: sceptimatic on May 05, 2017, 10:21:14 AM

On solid fuel and wires.
 

smoke and mirrors

Quote from: dutchy on May 05, 2017, 11:07:18 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on May 05, 2017, 10:21:14 AM

On solid fuel and wires.
 

smoke and mirrors

Science and technology.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on May 05, 2017, 05:47:39 AM

Quote from: dutchy on May 02, 2017, 02:04:51 PM

I am a professional musician who played on live podia uncountable times and this time around i can detect the bullshit far better than you do !

Well my bullshit alarm went haywire just then.

A 'professional musician' who can't figure out that all Chris Hadfield has to do is play along to a feed sent to him?

The return signal is what he hears and what he plays combined and is what the audience back on the ground hears. A live band on Earth does not need to hear Hadfield playing his part or hear the return signal, they just need to keep their music in time and let him play his bit.

Wowwww, you just explained a finilized master production, not a live performance IF DELAY (earth-ISS-earth) played a part in all of this.
With delay your explaination is trashcan worthy.
Earth's band playing-delay-ISS receives incoming signal of band-Chris plays along with incoming audio-delay-combined effort is audible for the audience.
The video is cut and piaste so we won't see any delay (Chris changing chords on the wrong moment and moving his lips with delay)
So we do see some post production then ??
''Áre you guys ready to do this'' ?, ''Chris ready to go ''? (answer without delay....) ''yes Ed i'm ready'' !
Then the performance starts and they play guitar and drum parts at the same suggested moment (video proof)....Chris changes chords and moves his lips at the same visible moment as the rest on earth.
This is a supposed live performance and the audio and matching video doesn't suggest any delay whatsoever. Delay cannot play a part whatsoever without destroying the credibilty of this performance one way or the other.
Are you suggesting there is absolutely no delay during this combined performance ?

Or do we witiness a cleverly edited musical ''production'' in which all feeds are matched into a supposed live performance both visual and audible ?

Why do NASA supporters always have to clean up the mess NASA is leaving behind.......you are sure you are not getting payed ?
Because if the band at my wedding would have faked themselves through my wedding this way,i would have kicked them out before the first interval, because playing a record is for free and i don't need a bunch of actors pretending they perform live   

Yep, good point, the evil geniuses at NASA who have brainwashed an entire planet (apart from you Truthseekers), presumably using a very robust grasp of technology and it's uses, decided they wanted to do a fake duet with Barenaked Ladies AND FORGOT THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE OF THE DELAY THEY'RE FAKING.

They will kick themselves when they realise they threw all that.. er, power is it?... or money?.. why are they doing it again?.. Anyway, they threw IT ALL AWAY, because of the Barenaked Ladies.

Grrrr.

Well done Dutchy.

That, or maybe they just accounted for the delay in some way - maybe he had a backing track or a metronome for a guide, rather than the band itself. And then they could sync up the footage after the fact. WHICH IS NOT A CRIME BY THE WAY.

EDIT: Oh look, you just have to google it..

"The song premiered Friday morning as a prerecorded video. Hadfield performed his part on the space station; Robertson did his in Toronto with a collegiate glee club and the other members of Barenaked Ladies. It was written as part of an annual event for Canadian music students. In May, students across Canada will play the song live with Hadfield in space."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/02/06/171312026/astronaut-and-rocker-pen-first-earth-space-duet

I think you just have to ask Dutchy to provide us with his calculations as to what the delay would actually be, given a speed of light transmission of 186000 miles per second and a even if the signal had to go half way round the world and back we're looking at just a fraction of that.

Of course if the Earth is flat and the ISS is just a few km above our heads tethered on a piece of string the delay will be non-existent.

Some food for thought..

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21929255-700-musicians-jam-long-distance-on-superfast-networks/

Some food for thought..

I'm sure it won't be..

Going back to the delay, have any of you actually watched the news, 9 times out of 10 if they are talking to a correspondent somewhere else over video there is a couple of seconds delay, because of that delay is BBC News a hoax. So with this delay it is perfectly plausible since it happens on earth and it is most likely increased due to the fact they are streaming 4k