Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!

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Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #60 on: May 11, 2017, 02:30:49 AM »
Who is 'they'?
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What is their evidence?
Well, if something kinda looks like another thing, then it is that thing.  That's it.
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Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #61 on: May 11, 2017, 03:14:20 AM »
Who is 'they'?
Morons.

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What is their evidence?
Well, if something kinda looks like another thing, then it is that thing.  That's it.

And what evidence did scientists have to support the big-bang theory, vacuum in space, relativity, and all the uncertainties in their "theories"!
When I asked about that; they simply answered "that's the beauty of science"!

If you watched the videos, then how can you explain the petrified stumps with enormous sizes all over the planet?

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Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #62 on: May 11, 2017, 04:42:32 AM »
Who is 'they'?
Morons.

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What is their evidence?
Well, if something kinda looks like another thing, then it is that thing.  That's it.

And what evidence did scientists have to support the big-bang theory, vacuum in space, relativity, and all the uncertainties in their "theories"!
When I asked about that; they simply answered "that's the beauty of science"!

If you watched the videos, then how can you explain the petrified stumps with enormous sizes all over the planet?

Plus, who could not fail to be impressed with the idea of silicon based aliens with giant space laser chain saws hacking up mountains,   seems somehow appropriate.   
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Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #63 on: May 11, 2017, 05:51:48 AM »
And what evidence did scientists have to support the big-bang theory, vacuum in space, relativity, and all the uncertainties in their "theories"!

They have multiple converging lines of evidence supporting robust, cohesive theories, which is different than one crackpot hypothesis based on armchair youtubing observations.

Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #64 on: May 11, 2017, 06:02:35 AM »
And what evidence did scientists have to support the big-bang theory, vacuum in space, relativity, and all the uncertainties in their "theories"!
When I asked about that; they simply answered "that's the beauty of science"!

What a load of shit.  I think you're just trolling now.
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Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #65 on: May 11, 2017, 06:56:59 AM »

Have you checked out the chemistry of those rocks in those hexagonal pattern?


Check it out yourself - It's made up mostly of Silicon - more than 60%!
> they say it due magma, but it remains a hypothesis!
And, it could support the other hypothesis since silicon make most of its composition.

https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~sainieid/pet/projects/Munson-Devils-Tower-2014.pdf
You say "It's made up mostly of Silicon - more than 60%!"

No, it's more than 60% SiO2, Silicon dioxide or silica and it's composition is 53% oxygen and 47% oxygen.
AND
Quote from: The Editors of Encyclopædia Britannica
silica, also called silicon dioxide, compound of the two most abundant elements in Earth’s crust, silicon and oxygen, SiO2. The mass of Earth’s crust is 59 percent silica, the main constituent of more than 95 percent of the known rocks.
So it's not surprising to find that Devil's Tower is largely silica.

I read the report too, Rab - I know what Silica is (Silicon dioxide) and I was just indicating that most of its composition came from Silicon, which supports both hypothesis.

And I am also aware how crazy this idea of Silicon-based life forms might sound, but the possibilities of its validity remain sound considering earth's atmosphere was completely different in prehistoric eras!

Maybe those Silicon-based life forms did not depend on oxygen & water as the solvent in which their biological molecules operate! > Carbon-based life forms depend on Carbon-based material to produce energy, so maybe the Silicon-based were capable of getting the energy needed directly and not through oxidization!

The crystals found in the cave are not from magma accumulation, and so should not be the hexagonal formations found in the same cave, similar to the ones in Devils Tower.

You referred to time frame 2:03 I think earlier. That might be the same stuff as found on the surface : basalt. If that is the case, it isn't a crystal formation. It is a case of stress fractures as explained by experts. Anyway, looking at a photo is not enough.

As for the rest of the crystals, they say it is CaSO4. This dissolves in water and recrystallizes although the solubility is very low.

Maybe those Silicon-based life forms did not depend on oxygen & water as the solvent in which their biological molecules operate!

What other solvent? Did you look at what basalt is?

Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #66 on: May 11, 2017, 08:42:58 AM »
Who is 'they'?
Morons.

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What is their evidence?
Well, if something kinda looks like another thing, then it is that thing.  That's it.

And what evidence did scientists have to support the big-bang theory, vacuum in space, relativity, and all the uncertainties in their "theories"!
When I asked about that; they simply answered "that's the beauty of science"!

If you watched the videos, then how can you explain the petrified stumps with enormous sizes all over the planet?

Plus, who could not fail to be impressed with the idea of silicon based aliens with giant space laser chain saws hacking up mountains,   seems somehow appropriate.   

Scientists were impressed!

Researchers take small step toward silicon-based life!

Researchers reported in San Diego, California, at the semiannual meeting of the American Chemical Society that they have evolved a bacterial enzyme that efficiently incorporates silicon into simple hydrocarbons—a first for life!

To get biology to adopt silicon, Frances Arnold, a chemist at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena, along with postdoctoral assistant Jennifer Kan and graduate student Rusty Lewis, started by isolating a so-called thermophilic bacterium, which grows in hot springs. Like many organisms, the bacterium contains an enzyme called cytochrome c, which shuttles electrons to other proteins, making it widely useful in biochemistry. In some cases, however, enzymes in thermophilic bacteria expand their roles to carry out other reactions on the side. So the Caltech researchers tested their microbe and found that in rare cases its cytochrome c also added silicon to hydrocarbons.

In nature, Arnold notes, cytochrome c’s silicon-adding ability is so feeble that it’s probably just a byproduct of the enzyme’s function—not even close to its primary role. To try to beef it up, the team incubated the bacteria with silicon and carbon compounds and selected the organisms that produced the most hydrocarbons that incorporated silicon. After only three rounds of this artificial selection, the enzymes had evolved to churn out silicon-containing hydrocarbons 2000 times as readily as natural cytochrome c.

“The power of evolution really shows up when a new function appears and then is forced to adapt via directed evolution,” Arnold says.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/researchers-take-small-step-toward-silicon-based-life



So, don't you think it's a possibility under certain circumstances the enzymes of those giant prehistoric trees had d-evolved to adapt to a new carbon-based life, which bonds better in the presence of oxygen abundance and water, which probably didn't need as much in the Silicon era, when they got the energy they needed directly and not through oxidization?

And who do you think cut the last giant tree and where was its location?
I asked Ezekiel and he told me it was the Cedar tree of Lebanon - the best of them all!
Read the rest, if you'd wish...

Ezekiel 31New Century Version (NCV)

A Cedar Tree

31 It was in the eleventh year of our captivity, in the third month, on the first day of the month. The Lord spoke his word to me, saying: 2 “Human, say to the king of Egypt and his people:

‘No one is like you in your greatness.
3 Assyria was once like a cedar tree in Lebanon
    with beautiful branches that shaded the forest.
It was very tall;
    its top was among the clouds.
4 Much water made the tree grow;
    the deep springs made it tall.
Rivers flowed
    around the bottom of the tree
and sent their streams
    to all other trees in the countryside.
5 So the tree was taller
    than all the other trees in the countryside.
Its limbs became long and big
    because of so much water.
6 All the birds of the sky
    made their nests in the tree’s limbs.
And all the wild animals
    gave birth under its branches.
All great nations
    lived in the tree’s shade.
7 So the tree was great and beautiful,
    with its long branches,
    because its roots reached down to much water.
8 The cedar trees in the garden of God
    were not as great as it was.
The pine trees
    did not have such great limbs.
The plane trees
    did not have such branches.
No tree in the garden of God
    was as beautiful as this tree.
9 I made it beautiful
    with many branches,
and all the trees of Eden in the garden of God
    wanted to be like it.
10 “‘So this is what the Lord God says: The tree grew tall. Its top reached the clouds, and it became proud of its height. 11 So I handed it over to a mighty ruler of the nations for him to punish it. Because it was evil, I got rid of it. 12 The cruelest foreign nation cut it down and left it. The tree’s branches fell on the mountains and in all the valleys, and its broken limbs were in all the ravines of the land. All the nations of the earth left the shade of that tree. 13 The birds of the sky live on the fallen tree. The wild animals live among the tree’s fallen branches. 14 So the trees that grow by the water will not be proud to be tall; they will not put their tops among the clouds. None of the trees that are watered well will grow that tall, because they all are meant to die and go under the ground. They will be with people who have died and have gone down to the place of the dead.

15 “‘This is what the Lord God says: On the day when the tree went down to the place of the dead, I made the deep springs cry loudly. I covered them and held back their rivers, and the great waters stopped flowing. I dressed Lebanon in black to show her sadness about the great tree, and all the trees in the countryside were sad about it. 16 I made the nations shake with fear at the sound of the tree falling when I brought it down to the place of the dead. It went to join those who have gone down to the grave. Then all the trees of Eden and the best trees of Lebanon, all the well-watered trees, were comforted in the place of the dead below the earth. 17 These trees had also gone down with the great tree to the place of the dead. They joined those who were killed in war and those among the nations who had lived under the great tree’s shade.

18 “‘So no tree in Eden is equal to you, Egypt, in greatness and honor, but you will go down to join the trees of Eden in the place below the earth. You will lie among unclean people, with those who were killed in war.

“‘This is about the king of Egypt and all his people, says the Lord God.’”
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Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #67 on: May 11, 2017, 09:27:17 PM »
Who is 'they'?
Morons.

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What is their evidence?
Well, if something kinda looks like another thing, then it is that thing.  That's it.

And what evidence did scientists have to support the big-bang theory, vacuum in space, relativity, and all the uncertainties in their "theories"!
When I asked about that; they simply answered "that's the beauty of science"!

Repeated observation, logical deduction, internally consistent and coherent theories, you know - shit like that.

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If you watched the videos, then how can you explain the petrified stumps with enormous sizes all over the planet?

Same as any normal person: hard plugs of material, volcanic in origin, exposed by the erosion of softer material around them. Not made up shit about tree stumps all mysteriously cut off at a certain height by a magical giant woodsman who somehow disposed of the massive trunks.
Facts won't do what I want them to.

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Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #68 on: May 12, 2017, 10:01:04 AM »
That's neat, however....
Let's find the source:
http://authors.library.caltech.edu/70819/1/Kan.SM.pdf

(or http://authors.library.caltech.edu/70819/)

It is 111 pages long.
Go to page 3. That is where they describe their procedure.

It looks like they aren't using bacteria. They are just experimenting on cytochrome c.
More specifically, read II. General procedures, (B) Cytochrome c expression and purification.

They prepared a culture of E. cloni.® EXPRESS BL21(DE3) cells containing a pET22(b)+ plasmid encoding the cytochrome c variant, and the pEC86 plasmid.

They cultivated the cell. Then it says "the cells were lysed". That means they destroyed them in an ultrasonic bath. Then they remove cell debris.
They collected the "cytochome c variant" to perform their experiment.

It also looks like they used a type of silane. Not SiH4, but SiH3Ph which is phenyldimethylsilane. That definitely does not exist in nature.

THIS IS ON PAGE 20
IV. Substrate Synthesis and Characterization
Commercially available substrates were used as received: phenyldimethylsilane
(Sigma-Aldrich), benzyldimethylsilane (Sigma-Aldrich), ethyl 2-diazopropanoate (Arch
Bioscience). The following diazo compounds are known and prepared according to
literature procedures: isopropyl 2-diazopropanoate (56), ethyl 2-diazobutanoate (57).

Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2017, 09:54:29 AM »
Well, I guess that killed the conversation  :)

Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2017, 01:19:54 AM »
Sometimes we really fuck up those silicon-based life forms. I present to you: Alien Killing Fields



haha!

Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2017, 01:24:29 AM »
Sometimes we really fuck up those silicon-based life forms. I present to you: Alien Killing Fields



According to the comrade, the aliens were mining for silicon for computer microchip technology and for crystals and precious gem stones - the sand was the leftover from mining.

So they 'leftover' the thing they were mining for? Seems wasteful, not to say counterproductive.

And I thought these giant laser axe wielding Aliens were the clever ones??!???

Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2017, 02:01:03 AM »
Well, I guess that killed the conversation  :)

Well, it was alive to a point of interest in the subject, because it did sound interesting the way the Russian guy put it!

We cannot though deny the unique structure and shape of Devil's Tower, which really resembles a giant prehistoric tree stump.

Now, whether Silicon-based life forms could have existed in prehistoric times and eras, I guess that remains a possibility, because we are not 100% sure what the atmosphere composition was like in those times!

Also, what came in Ezekiel 31 about the giant Ceder tree in Lebanon, adds more mystery to subject!

It simply was an interesting subject and worth looking into.
God—the knower—is non-dimensional.
God's thinking is two-dimensional.
God's creative actions are three-dimensional.

Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2017, 02:02:22 AM »
Well, I guess that killed the conversation  :)

Well, it was alive to a point of interest in the subject, because it did sound interesting the way the Russian guy put it!

We cannot though deny the unique structure and shape of Devil's Tower, which really resembles a giant prehistoric tree stump.

Now, whether Silicon-based life forms could have existed in prehistoric times and eras, I guess that remains a possibility, because we are not 100% sure what the atmosphere composition was like in those times!

Also, what came in Ezekiel 31 about the giant Ceder tree in Lebanon, adds more mystery to subject!

It simply was an interesting subject and worth looking into.

We can, they didn't, it doesn't and it isn't

Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2017, 02:07:50 AM »
Sometimes we really fuck up those silicon-based life forms. I present to you: Alien Killing Fields



According to the comrade, the aliens were mining for silicon for computer microchip technology and for crystals and precious gem stones - the sand was the leftover from mining.

So they 'leftover' the thing they were mining for? Seems wasteful, not to say counterproductive.

And I thought these giant laser axe wielding Aliens were the clever ones??!???

Maybe what they carried with them much more what they left behind!  ;)

And, you seem to have pointed at the sand and left out the crystals and gem stones - maybe you're not as clever as the Aliens, after all!  ;D
God—the knower—is non-dimensional.
God's thinking is two-dimensional.
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Re: Mountains Were Giant Prehistoric Trees - A Russian Guy Claims!
« Reply #75 on: May 20, 2017, 02:29:59 AM »
Sometimes we really fuck up those silicon-based life forms. I present to you: Alien Killing Fields



According to the comrade, the aliens were mining for silicon for computer microchip technology and for crystals and precious gem stones - the sand was the leftover from mining.

So they 'leftover' the thing they were mining for? Seems wasteful, not to say counterproductive.

And I thought these giant laser axe wielding Aliens were the clever ones??!???

Maybe what they carried with them much more what they left behind!  ;)

And, you seem to have pointed at the sand and left out the crystals and gem stones - maybe you're not as clever as the Aliens, after all!  ;D

Quite. I'm sure the Aliens from LaserAxe 9 placed economic value in crystals and gem stones in the same way we do (except not crystals obviously, you probably mean diamonds). Even if that were true, it's still a fuck up to leave all those millions and millions of tonnes of silicon lying around if it's one of the three things you're mining. Plus there are literally planets made out of every type of precious stone you can imagine I'd have thought. Seems like a poor idea, inefficiently executed and then, why where the chopping down mountains again??