Evolution

I agree with this ^^

That is two things papa and I have agreed about on this site

Kinda thought science had to be observable & repeatable....

Evolution is neither.

Therefore it ain't science.

We done here yet?

So you never heard of DNA?

I agree with this ^^

That is two things papa and I have agreed about on this site

We've been over this before. Every time someone gives you an example of evolution that has been observed, even speciation, you complain that it's not a T-Rex turning into a chicken. The issue is not with the theory, it is that you ask for impossible stuff to demonstrate. You're being like Heiwa, who wants you to blow a hydrogen bomb in his face to believe you.

Oh btw, I guess archeology isn't a science either by your definition. Interesting.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on August 12, 2017, 04:30:12 AM

Totes showed you that the research it cites was later found to be incorrect. Why did you accept the first result, but you did not accept the follow up checks?

No he didn't. He provided this link: https://phys.org/news/2014-10-textbook-knowledge-reconfirmed-radioactive-substances.html which does NOT answer the link I provided. The link he provided is even refuted on the very same page lol. Besides, that does NOT change the outcome and conclusion of the article. Dating methods are still based on ASSUMPTIONS. That's never changed. It's always been that way and cannot be proven until there's 5000+ years of records. Until then, it's ASSUMPTIONS. Get over it already.

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Oh, and for the last time, there are many, many, MANY religious scientists. Not every christian is a nut like you.

Once again, this is an evolutionists only defense. When there's no answer, instantly attack "Chritianity" "God" "Faith" - that's great Scientific rebuttal you guys have in your arsenal. I've made many posts here, find me a single post where I quote or mention the bible in opposition to Science or to prove any point. Go on. You'll probably say you don't have time for this which is complete bull because you're on an online forum of Flat Earthers, time is the only thing you have if you're here. But you won't check as you won't find it because religion cannot disprove the stupidity of Evolution. Only science can prove how ridiculous evolution really is and how it's ALL based on faith. The evolution religion is weak and surviving due to being funded by taxes. These are all facts that hurt you no doubt but I won't apologise for your beliefs.

Blah blah blah... I didn't even attack christianity, I just said you're a fucking nut.

Oh, and no, I don't have the time or will to refute the entirety of your shitty link, I'm on a phone a lot of the time and there's tons of stuff in your link, I'd have to write a book. Do you want me to start dropping links to you refuting creationist arguments and proving evolution? That would be really easy and you would never be able to address all of that.

For the last time, is it really that hard for you to pick SOMETHING from your link to debate?

Where is what Totes provided even refuted in your link? Why is it so hard for you to copy and paste the interesting part?

Like I said, evolution is neither observable nor repeatable & therefore it is not science...

Deaf Dick has a lot of difficulty with science though - he thinks the Universe is Flat you know!

Like I said, evolution is neither observable nor repeatable & therefore it is not science...

Deaf Dick has a lot of difficulty with science though - he thinks the Universe is Flat you know!

You forgot to misquote me.

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 04:40:51 AM

Like I said, evolution is neither observable nor repeatable & therefore it is not science...

Deaf Dick has a lot of difficulty with science though - he thinks the Universe is Flat you know!

You forgot to misquote me.

No need to...

You're doing a mighty fine job of making yourself look stupid already.

You always do.

Evolution is unobservable, unrepeatable & therefore unscientific.

Unless you own a time machine, perhaps?

Do you own a time machine, Deaf Dick?

You know, like Doctor Who's TARDIS?

Of course, in your case it would be a RE-TARDIS, would it not?

Lol.

I'm doing a mighty fine job of making myself look stupid already.

I always do.

But I feel like I have to make my stupidity even more obvious, so I'm gonna make an unoriginal, childish, unfunny and worn out RE-TARDIS joke.

Lol.

You shouldn't have gone through all that effort. It's obvious enough, I believe you.

Toodle-fucking-pip dimwit.

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 05:15:40 AM

I'm doing a mighty fine job of making myself look stupid already.

I always do.

But I feel like I have to make my stupidity even more obvious, so I'm gonna make an unoriginal, childish, unfunny and worn out RE-TARDIS joke.

Lol.

You shouldn't have gone through all that effort. It's obvious enough, I believe you.

Toodle-fucking-pip dimwit.

Your chimp-out in defense of your unscientific religion of evolution is noted, as is your autism & terminal butthurt.

I will leave you to enjoy your Nihilism & perma-virgin status in peace...

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Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 05:15:40 AM

I'm doing a mighty fine job of making myself look stupid already.

I always do.

But I feel like I have to make my stupidity even more obvious, so I'm gonna make an unoriginal, childish, unfunny and worn out RE-TARDIS joke.

Lol.

You shouldn't have gone through all that effort. It's obvious enough, I believe you.

Toodle-fucking-pip dimwit.

Your chimp-out in defense of your unscientific religion of evolution is noted, as is your autism & terminal butthurt.

I will leave you to enjoy your Nihilism & perma-virgin status in peace...

Υou mean, you don't want me to give you attention? Hmmm I don't really believe that 

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Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 05:15:40 AM

I'm doing a mighty fine job of making myself look stupid already.

I always do.

But I feel like I have to make my stupidity even more obvious, so I'm gonna make an unoriginal, childish, unfunny and worn out RE-TARDIS joke.

Lol.

You shouldn't have gone through all that effort. It's obvious enough, I believe you.

Toodle-fucking-pip dimwit.

Your chimp-out in defense of your unscientific religion of evolution is noted, as is your autism & terminal butthurt.

I will leave you to enjoy your Nihilism & perma-virgin status in peace...

Υou mean, you don't want me to give you attention? Hmmm I don't really believe that 

I'd rather you gave me observable & repeatable evidence for your unscientific & nihilistic religion of evolution...

But we all know you will never do that, so I'm just gonna laugh at you.

This happens to you every single time, Deaf Dick; are you actually DE-volving or what?

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Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 06:22:23 AM

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Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 05:15:40 AM

I'm doing a mighty fine job of making myself look stupid already.

I always do.

But I feel like I have to make my stupidity even more obvious, so I'm gonna make an unoriginal, childish, unfunny and worn out RE-TARDIS joke.

Lol.

You shouldn't have gone through all that effort. It's obvious enough, I believe you.

Toodle-fucking-pip dimwit.

Your chimp-out in defense of your unscientific religion of evolution is noted, as is your autism & terminal butthurt.

I will leave you to enjoy your Nihilism & perma-virgin status in peace...

Υou mean, you don't want me to give you attention? Hmmm I don't really believe that 

I'd rather you gave me observable & repeatable evidence for your unscientific & nihilistic religion of evolution...

But we all know you will never do that, so I'm just gonna laugh at you.

This happens to you every single time, Deaf Dick; are you actually DE-volving or what?

https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Douglas-J-Futuyma/dp/1605356050/ref=pd_sbs_14_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1605356050&pd_rd_r=6S0R8QHKWCPABQSBB2BW&pd_rd_w=kk24S&pd_rd_wg=9Q56v&psc=1&refRID=6S0R8QHKWCPABQSBB2BW

There, it has lots of evidence and explanations inside it. It is very complete and only costs 110$ new. Satisfied? 

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Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 06:22:23 AM

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Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 05:15:40 AM

I'm doing a mighty fine job of making myself look stupid already.

I always do.

But I feel like I have to make my stupidity even more obvious, so I'm gonna make an unoriginal, childish, unfunny and worn out RE-TARDIS joke.

Lol.

You shouldn't have gone through all that effort. It's obvious enough, I believe you.

Toodle-fucking-pip dimwit.

Your chimp-out in defense of your unscientific religion of evolution is noted, as is your autism & terminal butthurt.

I will leave you to enjoy your Nihilism & perma-virgin status in peace...

Υou mean, you don't want me to give you attention? Hmmm I don't really believe that 

I'd rather you gave me observable & repeatable evidence for your unscientific & nihilistic religion of evolution...

But we all know you will never do that, so I'm just gonna laugh at you.

This happens to you every single time, Deaf Dick; are you actually DE-volving or what?

https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Douglas-J-Futuyma/dp/1605356050/ref=pd_sbs_14_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1605356050&pd_rd_r=6S0R8QHKWCPABQSBB2BW&pd_rd_w=kk24S&pd_rd_wg=9Q56v&psc=1&refRID=6S0R8QHKWCPABQSBB2BW

There, it has lots of evidence and explanations inside it. It is very complete and only costs 110$ new. Satisfied? 

So I have to spend $110 to find out you have no observable & repeatable evidence for your unscientific religion of evolutionarianism?

Wow - you really are a conman aintcha, Deaf Dick?

Oh, wait, we already knew that didn't we?

Thing is, did you start out in life as a lying scumbag conman, or did you evolvulate into one?

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on August 13, 2017, 08:10:32 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 08:05:25 AM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on August 13, 2017, 07:51:13 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 06:22:23 AM

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Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 05:15:40 AM

I'm doing a mighty fine job of making myself look stupid already.

I always do.

But I feel like I have to make my stupidity even more obvious, so I'm gonna make an unoriginal, childish, unfunny and worn out RE-TARDIS joke.

Lol.

You shouldn't have gone through all that effort. It's obvious enough, I believe you.

Toodle-fucking-pip dimwit.

Your chimp-out in defense of your unscientific religion of evolution is noted, as is your autism & terminal butthurt.

I will leave you to enjoy your Nihilism & perma-virgin status in peace...

Υou mean, you don't want me to give you attention? Hmmm I don't really believe that 

I'd rather you gave me observable & repeatable evidence for your unscientific & nihilistic religion of evolution...

But we all know you will never do that, so I'm just gonna laugh at you.

This happens to you every single time, Deaf Dick; are you actually DE-volving or what?

https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Douglas-J-Futuyma/dp/1605356050/ref=pd_sbs_14_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1605356050&pd_rd_r=6S0R8QHKWCPABQSBB2BW&pd_rd_w=kk24S&pd_rd_wg=9Q56v&psc=1&refRID=6S0R8QHKWCPABQSBB2BW

There, it has lots of evidence and explanations inside it. It is very complete and only costs 110$ new. Satisfied? 

So I have to spend $110 to find out you have no observable & repeatable evidence for your unscientific religion of evolutionarianism?

Wow - you really are a conman aintcha, Deaf Dick?

Oh, wait, we already knew that didn't we?

Thing is, did you start out in life as a lying scumbag conman, or did you evolvulate into one?

Now you're getting back to form, I'm glad!

You don't have to spend 110$, you can get it used for 45$ 

Lol only $45 to find out you have no observable & repeatable evidence for your unscientific & nihilistic religion of evolvulationarianism now?

What a conman!

BTW, you probably didn't evolvulate into a lying scumbag charlatan....

No, it's more likely just an adaptation to compensate for your massive autism, ignorance, fundamental dishonesty & lack of personal hygiene/morality.

Oh & BTW your last two posts just proved you are a shill to anyone with discernment...

Good work, retard!

Lol only $45 to find out you have no observable & repeatable evidence for your unscientific & nihilistic religion of evolvulationarianism now?

What a conman!

BTW, you probably didn't evolvulate into a lying scumbag charlatan....

No, it's more likely just an adaptation to compensate for your massive autism, ignorance, fundamental dishonesty & lack of personal hygiene/morality.

Oh & BTW your last two posts just proved you are a shill to anyone with discernment...

Good work, retard!

You don't have to pay 45$ either if you're that much of a cheapo, you can pirate it for free: www.b-ok.org

Learn how to internet   

So you were trying to get me to spend $110 on something you knew I could get for free all along?

Conman confirmed.

Are we done yet you mental motherfucker?

So you were trying to get me to spend $110 on something you knew I could get for free all along?

Conman confirmed.

Are we done yet you mental motherfucker?

Well I thought you'd want to take the legal route, of course you could pirate it for free  This is the internet 

Thanks for confirming you are yet another of markjos 39,000 sockpuppets.

What a fucking loser!

 

Thanks for confirming you are yet another of markjos 39,000 sockpuppets.

What a fucking loser!

 

Well I gave you a way to get a 110$ book for free, and this is how you thank me for that? What an ungrateful asshole... But of course you won't get it, anything above 100 words is TL;DR for you

 
 
 
 

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 13, 2017, 11:24:19 PM

Thanks for confirming you are yet another of markjos 39,000 sockpuppets.

What a fucking loser!

 

Well I gave you a way to get a 110$ book for free, and this is how you thank me for that? What an ungrateful asshole... But of course you won't get it, anything above 100 words is TL;DR for you

 
 
 
 

STFU markjo.

Come out from behind the sockpuppet & face the music for your catastrophic Newton-fail...

Be a man for once in your shitty miserable existence eh?

Just for once.

LOL!!!

As if...

You are, above all things markjo, a rotten coward to the core.

That's the one thing about you of which I am absolutely certain.

Toodle-pip, Coward!

Random question to the anti evolutionists:

What do you think about m. plantaris and m.palmaris?

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on August 12, 2017, 04:41:35 PM

I agree with this ^^

That is two things papa and I have agreed about on this site

We've been over this before. Every time someone gives you an example of evolution that has been observed, even speciation, you complain that it's not a T-Rex turning into a chicken. The issue is not with the theory, it is that you ask for impossible stuff to demonstrate. You're being like Heiwa, who wants you to blow a hydrogen bomb in his face to believe you.

Oh btw, I guess archeology isn't a science either by your definition. Interesting.

Nope...nice deflection though.

I simply want one repeatable test I can perform in a controlled setting that will show me macro evolution...if it is part of science and can be considered a "fact" then this will be easy correct?

Otherwise we are simply a religion or belief....

I simply want one repeatable test I can perform in a controlled setting that will show me macro evolution...if it is part of science and can be considered a "fact" then this will be easy correct?

Yeah, it's no big deal to perform that experiment. You just have to life for a few thousands or millions of years

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on August 14, 2017, 02:51:42 AM

I simply want one repeatable test I can perform in a controlled setting that will show me macro evolution...if it is part of science and can be considered a "fact" then this will be easy correct?

Yeah, it's no big deal to perform that experiment. You just have to life for a few thousands or millions of years

Or you can study how bacteria evolve immunity to anti-bacterial drugs. 

Or you can study how bacteria evolve immunity to anti-bacterial drugs.

I said macro not micro or adaption. Any farmer with limited education and recourses could tell me the same thing.

Yeah, it's no big deal to perform that experiment. You just have to life for a few thousands or millions of years

Translation...it's a belief

@BHS:
No, it means you don't understand the concept of macro evolution.
But that's no big deal, as an engineer you don't have to know that stuff.

Anyway

What do you think about m. plantaris and m.palmaris?

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on August 13, 2017, 04:00:48 AM

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on August 12, 2017, 04:41:35 PM

I agree with this ^^

That is two things papa and I have agreed about on this site

We've been over this before. Every time someone gives you an example of evolution that has been observed, even speciation, you complain that it's not a T-Rex turning into a chicken. The issue is not with the theory, it is that you ask for impossible stuff to demonstrate. You're being like Heiwa, who wants you to blow a hydrogen bomb in his face to believe you.

Oh btw, I guess archeology isn't a science either by your definition. Interesting.

Nope...nice deflection though.

I simply want one repeatable test I can perform in a controlled setting that will show me macro evolution...if it is part of science and can be considered a "fact" then this will be easy correct?

Otherwise we are simply a religion or belief....

Oh ok. So we call archeology a religion, or a belief. That's good to know.

If I apply a force of 10 quadrillion newtons to an object with a mass of 1 quadrillion kilos, do you feel confident enough that it will accelerate at 10m/s? Or are you going to say it's "macro physics" and Newton's laws don't apply, and that it's a religion because you can't actually demonstrate it?

Similarly, the genetic mechanisms that guide evolution are well understood, but because you can't turn a T-Rex to a chicken in a laboratory environment they will find something to whine about. People will give you examples of speciation but you'll say "they're still rats" or "they're still bacteria" or "they're still moths". Just admit that even if I showed you a rat evolving to a mouse, you'd still complain that it's "still a rodent".

"Macroevolution" is just the same things that cause "microevolution", but applied over a very long span of time.

This is a good link:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html

Especially the drosophila flies, which have been part of lab experiments.

I also remember reading about some italian lizzards that have grown an extra intestine muscle in the span of a few decades. I don't think they have speciated yet though.

Translation...it's a belief

Nope, it's a mathematical and logical certainty,   if you don't survive you don't get to breed.   Not that hard to understand.

Populations are dominated by those with the ability to reproduce.   Logic dictates it thus.

Especially the drosophila flies, which have been part of lab experiments.

Can confirm, those are pretty cool.