Evolution

Quote from: Physical Experimenter on May 02, 2017, 12:51:52 AM

Evolution is fact. It is only called theory in the sense that anything we know could not be true, however it is a true scientific theory as it is open to question and yet has not been disproved. I am willing to answer any questions you have on this topic.

Evolution is a religion, not a science.

It was created by the devil to trick man to defy GOD.

What did the snake say to Eve, if you eat the fruit, you will become GOD. In other words, you will evolve into a GOD. It is amazing that the historical book of the Bible was written centuries before the idea of evolution came up, and it describes the same pattern as back in the garden of Eden.

What does evolution say, that we will become better and better as time passes, The only difference is now the devil added time to the equation,

Ridiculous!

No. Just no. A person does not evolve into anything. You aren't using the word correctly. And evolution says nothing about becoming better and better. It is simply change over time. You may want to spend more time understanding the concept before dismissing it for reasons that are disconnected from reality.

Survival of the fittest.

Only the better adapters get to survive, actually evolution is about killing everything that can't change, so only the best survive.
 

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 03:01:52 AM

Quote from: Physical Experimenter on May 02, 2017, 12:51:52 AM

Evolution is fact. It is only called theory in the sense that anything we know could not be true, however it is a true scientific theory as it is open to question and yet has not been disproved. I am willing to answer any questions you have on this topic.

Evolution is a religion, not a science.

It was created by the devil to trick man to defy GOD.

What did the snake say to Eve, if you eat the fruit, you will become GOD. In other words, you will evolve into a GOD. It is amazing that the historical book of the Bible was written centuries before the idea of evolution came up, and it describes the same pattern as back in the garden of Eden.

What does evolution say, that we will become better and better as time passes, The only difference is now the devil added time to the equation,

Ridiculous!

Why, because it goes against your values or your beliefs?

Quote from: boydster on July 22, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

No. Just no. A person does not evolve into anything. You aren't using the word correctly. And evolution says nothing about becoming better and better. It is simply change over time. You may want to spend more time understanding the concept before dismissing it for reasons that are disconnected from reality.

Survival of the fittest.

Only the better adapters get to survive, actually evolution is about killing everything that can't change, so only the best survive.

Survival of the "fittest" doesn't mean survival of the "better". It means survival of the fittest to survive in a certain context. If a degenerate blob that doesn't do anything is better suited for a specific environment then that's the "fittest". Killing stuff has little to do with this, it's about who produces more offspring that survive to have offspring themselves. "Better" is your notion.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:11:14 AM

Quote from: boydster on July 22, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

No. Just no. A person does not evolve into anything. You aren't using the word correctly. And evolution says nothing about becoming better and better. It is simply change over time. You may want to spend more time understanding the concept before dismissing it for reasons that are disconnected from reality.

Survival of the fittest.

Only the better adapters get to survive, actually evolution is about killing everything that can't change, so only the best survive.

Survival of the "fittest" doesn't mean survival of the "better". It means survival of the fittest to survive in a certain context. If a degenerate blob that doesn't do anything is better suited for a specific environment then that's the "fittest". Killing stuff has little to do with this, it's about who produces more offspring that survive to have offspring themselves. "Better" is your notion.

Evolution is a myth used to trick people in that they are worthless and insignificant. God has a different plan for us, all we have to do it to accept it.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 22, 2017, 11:17:30 AM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:11:14 AM

Quote from: boydster on July 22, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

No. Just no. A person does not evolve into anything. You aren't using the word correctly. And evolution says nothing about becoming better and better. It is simply change over time. You may want to spend more time understanding the concept before dismissing it for reasons that are disconnected from reality.

Survival of the fittest.

Only the better adapters get to survive, actually evolution is about killing everything that can't change, so only the best survive.

Survival of the "fittest" doesn't mean survival of the "better". It means survival of the fittest to survive in a certain context. If a degenerate blob that doesn't do anything is better suited for a specific environment then that's the "fittest". Killing stuff has little to do with this, it's about who produces more offspring that survive to have offspring themselves. "Better" is your notion.

Evolution is a myth used to trick people in that they are worthless and insignificant. God has a different plan for us, all we have to do it to accept it.

That was pretty irrelevant. I'm sorry if evolution makes you feel worthless and insignificant, it's not a problem for most people. But what it makes you feel like has no effect on the facts.

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

That's irrelevant as well. People who accept evolution don't necessarily feel insignificant because of that and it definitely wasn't the intent. As I said, what it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts. Maybe you're different, but I don't like to go around believing stuff just to feel more special.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:52:13 AM

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

That's irrelevant as well. People who accept evolution don't necessarily feel insignificant because of that and it definitely wasn't the intent. As I said, what it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts. Maybe you're different, but I don't like to go around believing stuff just to feel more special.

The whole consent of Evolution is that we were an accident because of the Big Bang. If the Big Bang happened a microsecond latter, we would have not been created.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 22, 2017, 12:00:55 PM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:52:13 AM

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

That's irrelevant as well. People who accept evolution don't necessarily feel insignificant because of that and it definitely wasn't the intent. As I said, what it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts. Maybe you're different, but I don't like to go around believing stuff just to feel more special.

The whole consent of Evolution is that we were an accident because of the Big Bang. If the Big Bang happened a microsecond latter, we would have not been created.

That's not the concept of evolution, you're conflating things, but I get what you mean. Yes, if you don't believe in God but believe in modern cosmology, evolution and abiogenesis (belief in God and belief in all these thinds are not necessarily incompatible) you don't believe any of it was intentional, so it was an "accident" as you call it. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to feel insignificant or something.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 22, 2017, 12:00:55 PM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:52:13 AM

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

That's irrelevant as well. People who accept evolution don't necessarily feel insignificant because of that and it definitely wasn't the intent. As I said, what it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts. Maybe you're different, but I don't like to go around believing stuff just to feel more special.

The whole consent of Evolution is that we were an accident because of the Big Bang. If the Big Bang happened a microsecond latter, we would have not been created.

Huh?? I get that you have your beliefs, but you clearly do NOT understand evolution. Biological evolution has nothing to do with where the universe came from.

Evolution and cosmology are both neat fields. You might enjoy spending some time learning about them.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 12:07:09 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 22, 2017, 12:00:55 PM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:52:13 AM

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

That's irrelevant as well. People who accept evolution don't necessarily feel insignificant because of that and it definitely wasn't the intent. As I said, what it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts. Maybe you're different, but I don't like to go around believing stuff just to feel more special.

The whole consent of Evolution is that we were an accident because of the Big Bang. If the Big Bang happened a microsecond latter, we would have not been created.

That's not the concept of evolution, you're conflating things, but I get what you mean. Yes, if you don't believe in God but believe in modern cosmology, evolution and abiogenesis (belief in God and belief in all these thinds are not necessarily incompatible) you don't believe any of it was intentional, so it was an "accident" as you call it. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to feel insignificant or something.

Their was a movie called October Baby, its the story of a girl that has tremendous health problems, finds out while she is in college that she was adopted and her birth mother tried to abort her and failed. Look how insignificant she felts.

It is the same with evolution, if we were an unwanted accident, then we have no value.

The idea of Evolution was created by the devil to disprove God and in the last days, he will bring his demons as extra terrestrials. Thank God we will be long dead by them.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 12:07:09 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 22, 2017, 12:00:55 PM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:52:13 AM

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

That's irrelevant as well. People who accept evolution don't necessarily feel insignificant because of that and it definitely wasn't the intent. As I said, what it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts. Maybe you're different, but I don't like to go around believing stuff just to feel more special.

The whole consent of Evolution is that we were an accident because of the Big Bang. If the Big Bang happened a microsecond latter, we would have not been created.

Huh?? I get that you have your beliefs, but you clearly do NOT understand evolution. Biological evolution has nothing to do with where the universe came from.

Evolution and cosmology are both neat fields. You might enjoy spending some time learning about them.

Its is all connected. If their was no Big Bang, then their will be no Biological evolution.

In order to have Biological Evolution, you need to have a Big Bang.

Lets assume the earth is flat,

Could we have evolution, starting from the first single cell organism till man? Or would people disregard it as nonsense.

I'm not talking about adaptation, long beck, short beck, I'm talking of a Fish becoming a Bird, and of the common ancestor between the Cat, the Dog, the Bear, Man.

By the way do we have a common ancestor, did we ever find the missing link between the Cat, Dog, Bear, and Man or are they all independent "trees"?

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 22, 2017, 03:46:16 PM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 12:07:09 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 22, 2017, 12:00:55 PM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:52:13 AM

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

That's irrelevant as well. People who accept evolution don't necessarily feel insignificant because of that and it definitely wasn't the intent. As I said, what it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts. Maybe you're different, but I don't like to go around believing stuff just to feel more special.

The whole consent of Evolution is that we were an accident because of the Big Bang. If the Big Bang happened a microsecond latter, we would have not been created.

That's not the concept of evolution, you're conflating things, but I get what you mean. Yes, if you don't believe in God but believe in modern cosmology, evolution and abiogenesis (belief in God and belief in all these thinds are not necessarily incompatible) you don't believe any of it was intentional, so it was an "accident" as you call it. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to feel insignificant or something.

Their was a movie called October Baby, its the story of a girl that has tremendous health problems, finds out while she is in college that she was adopted and her birth mother tried to abort her and failed. Look how insignificant she felts.

It is the same with evolution, if we were an unwanted accident, then we have no value.

The idea of Evolution was created by the devil to disprove God and in the last days, he will bring his demons as extra terrestrials. Thank God we will be long dead by them.

Ok, I'll have to say this again:
1) What it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts
2) There's a shit ton of philosophy that deals with the subject of "significance" of humans, the point being that just because we weren't created by a sentient entity does NOT necessarily mean we have to feel insignificant or worthless or meaningless or anything.

Extraterrestrials lol... How do you even know what's going to happen? Let me guess, an elder told you. How did that elder know then? 

Quote from: boydster on July 22, 2017, 03:59:37 PM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 12:07:09 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 22, 2017, 12:00:55 PM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 22, 2017, 11:52:13 AM

Evolution does not threaten me or make me feel small.

Just like watching a crime movie of TV, I know that a gun shot from the movie will not come out and kill me. It is all made up in fantasy land and it has no effect on me.

That's irrelevant as well. People who accept evolution don't necessarily feel insignificant because of that and it definitely wasn't the intent. As I said, what it makes you feel like has no bearing on the facts. Maybe you're different, but I don't like to go around believing stuff just to feel more special.

The whole consent of Evolution is that we were an accident because of the Big Bang. If the Big Bang happened a microsecond latter, we would have not been created.

Huh?? I get that you have your beliefs, but you clearly do NOT understand evolution. Biological evolution has nothing to do with where the universe came from.

Evolution and cosmology are both neat fields. You might enjoy spending some time learning about them.

Its is all connected. If their was no Big Bang, then their will be no Biological evolution.

In order to have Biological Evolution, you need to have a Big Bang.

Lets assume the earth is flat,

Could we have evolution, starting from the first single cell organism till man? Or would people disregard it as nonsense.

I'm not talking about adaptation, long beck, short beck, I'm talking of a Fish becoming a Bird, and of the common ancestor between the Cat, the Dog, the Bear, Man.

By the way do we have a common ancestor, did we ever find the missing link between the Cat, Dog, Bear, and Man or are they all independent "trees"?

No, no, no, you don't need Big Bang to have biological evolution and you don't need evolution to have Big Bang. They're not even incompatible with God, you're just confused.

Yes we did have a common ancestor. We have found many of the "missing links", not all of course because that would be impossible, since there are so many.

you don't need Big Bang to have biological evolution

if their was no Big Bang, then how was the earth created in order to have evolution?

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you don't need Big Bang to have biological evolution

if their was no Big Bang, then how was the earth created in order to have evolution?

You mean how the universe was created. The creation of Earth also has nothing to do with the Big Bang.

The universe may have been created by God or some divine entity. Or it could have been created by some way other than the Big Bang (which is more specific than you think). But personally I think Big Bang is probably very close to the truth and it is supported by evidence. It may have been caused by some sort of God but I don't know about that.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 03:14:16 AM

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you don't need Big Bang to have biological evolution

if their was no Big Bang, then how was the earth created in order to have evolution?

You mean how the universe was created. The creation of Earth also has nothing to do with the Big Bang.

The universe may have been created by God or some divine entity. Or it could have been created by some way other than the Big Bang (which is more specific than you think). But personally I think Big Bang is probably very close to the truth and it is supported by evidence. It may have been caused by some sort of God but I don't know about that.

"The creation of Earth also has nothing to do with the Big Bang." - WHAT???

If GOD was so powerful and smart to create the earth, then why could he not created life?

Evolution needs a spinning ball to be made believable. It will not be believable on a Flat Earth

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 23, 2017, 03:27:09 AM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 03:14:16 AM

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you don't need Big Bang to have biological evolution

if their was no Big Bang, then how was the earth created in order to have evolution?

You mean how the universe was created. The creation of Earth also has nothing to do with the Big Bang.

The universe may have been created by God or some divine entity. Or it could have been created by some way other than the Big Bang (which is more specific than you think). But personally I think Big Bang is probably very close to the truth and it is supported by evidence. It may have been caused by some sort of God but I don't know about that.

"The creation of Earth also has nothing to do with the Big Bang." - WHAT???

If GOD was so powerful and smart to create the earth, then why could he not created life?

Evolution needs a spinning ball to be made believable. It will not be believable on a Flat Earth

God could have made the universe so that life would come naturally without further intervention from God. It is consistent with the idea that God does not micromanage stuff.

The origin of the universe, the origin of earth and the origin of life are not connected in the way you think they are. Any of them could have happened one way or the other and it wouldn't gave affected the rest.

So you are telling me, that God, took the time to make universe, but did not take the time to create life?

It sound to me that he would not be GOD,

Also, in the bible it state that death came to this world because of the sin of Adam and Eve, so this God that you are talking about would not be the Christian God, but a demonic god.

So you are telling me, that God, took the time to make universe, but did not take the time to create life?

It sound to me that he would not be GOD,

Also, in the bible it state that death came to this world because of the sin of Adam and Eve, so this God that you are talking about would not be the Christian God, but a demonic god.

Did you even read my last post? Is this what I said?

What demonic God? What are you talking about?

I know many religious people who still believe in evolution and mostly view Gennesis as allegorical. Everything is not literal anyways.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 04:50:48 AM

So you are telling me, that God, took the time to make universe, but did not take the time to create life?

It sound to me that he would not be GOD,

Also, in the bible it state that death came to this world because of the sin of Adam and Eve, so this God that you are talking about would not be the Christian God, but a demonic god.

Did you even read my last post? Is this what I said?

What demonic God? What are you talking about?

I know many religious people who still believe in evolution and mostly view Gennesis as allegorical. Everything is not literal anyways.

Are they Orthodox Christians or Messianic Jews ?

The bible is a historical book. Just because we don't like the history, does not mean that it is wrong.

It is like the Germans stating that the history books are wrong about their war crimes in WWII

It is like the Germans stating that the history books are wrong about their war crimes in WWII

Hint: They don't.
You're such a retard, seriously.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 06:50:22 AM

It is like the Germans stating that the history books are wrong about their war crimes in WWII

Hint: They don't.
You're such a retard, seriously.

Is that what they are going to say 200 years from now?

or 1000 years from now?

How old is the bible about 6500 years

Quote from: User324 on July 23, 2017, 07:01:20 AM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 06:50:22 AM

It is like the Germans stating that the history books are wrong about their war crimes in WWII

Hint: They don't.
You're such a retard, seriously.

Is that what they are going to say 200 years from now?

or 1000 years from now?

How old is the bible about 6500 years

Don't try to justify your lie, you son of satan.

Anyway, the point your making actually goes right in the other direction than you planned. But whatever, contradicting yourself is something I'm used to see in your posts.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 23, 2017, 05:26:24 AM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 04:50:48 AM

So you are telling me, that God, took the time to make universe, but did not take the time to create life?

It sound to me that he would not be GOD,

Also, in the bible it state that death came to this world because of the sin of Adam and Eve, so this God that you are talking about would not be the Christian God, but a demonic god.

Did you even read my last post? Is this what I said?

What demonic God? What are you talking about?

I know many religious people who still believe in evolution and mostly view Gennesis as allegorical. Everything is not literal anyways.

Are they Orthodox Christians or Messianic Jews ?

The bible is a historical book. Just because we don't like the history, does not mean that it is wrong.

It is like the Germans stating that the history books are wrong about their war crimes in WWII

Yes they are orthodox christians, just like almost everyone else I know. You seem disconnected, where are you from?

Christians don't even claim the Bible is a history book. If you can't understand the difference between the historical knowledge of WWII and history books and the Bible I can't help you.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 07:11:29 AM

Quote from: User324 on July 23, 2017, 07:01:20 AM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 06:50:22 AM

It is like the Germans stating that the history books are wrong about their war crimes in WWII

Hint: They don't.
You're such a retard, seriously.

Is that what they are going to say 200 years from now?

or 1000 years from now?

How old is the bible about 6500 years

Don't try to justify your lie, you son of satan.

Anyway, the point your making actually goes right in the other direction than you planned. But whatever, contradicting yourself is something I'm used to see in your posts.

Please provide quote where I have contradicted my self.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 06:50:22 AM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 23, 2017, 05:26:24 AM

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 04:50:48 AM

So you are telling me, that God, took the time to make universe, but did not take the time to create life?

It sound to me that he would not be GOD,

Also, in the bible it state that death came to this world because of the sin of Adam and Eve, so this God that you are talking about would not be the Christian God, but a demonic god.

Did you even read my last post? Is this what I said?

What demonic God? What are you talking about?

I know many religious people who still believe in evolution and mostly view Gennesis as allegorical. Everything is not literal anyways.

Are they Orthodox Christians or Messianic Jews ?

The bible is a historical book. Just because we don't like the history, does not mean that it is wrong.

It is like the Germans stating that the history books are wrong about their war crimes in WWII

Yes they are orthodox christians, just like almost everyone else I know. You seem disconnected, where are you from?

Christians don't even claim the Bible is a history book. If you can't understand the difference between the historical knowledge of WWII and history books and the Bible I can't help you.

Most Greek Orthodox Christians have never even read the Bible, they are too busy being separated from Good.

You know, we are very lucky, that the worst politician that God could find was our prime minister. Because of our turning our back to God, if their was a worst one, he would of put him as our leader, because that is who we deserve...

You contradict yourself in the other thread at least once, probably multiple times already. Your logic is as flawed as the bible.