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Can you see the plane?

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Observation Skills Test

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Observation Skills Test
« on: April 29, 2017, 06:53:48 PM »
Ok here's an experiment in observation skills.  ( or maybe it's an experiment in confirmation bias? )

Whio can see the plane in this picture?



Here's where it's thought to be.



Both those frames are from this short video



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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2017, 07:25:29 PM »
Sure!

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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2017, 08:18:08 PM »
Thanks Rab, I have a lot of respect for you.

This really is a test of confirmation bias.
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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2017, 08:21:00 PM »
It's fine to say the video evidence is inconclusive imo.

It doesn't prove anything except the video in question is very low quality.
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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2017, 08:28:10 PM »
In a similar tone of Rayzors opening question.

Who can see the Aliens?



If that's conclusive evidence for a plane this is conclusive proof of aliens ::) ::).
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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2017, 08:35:31 PM »
I have no idea what you are trying to say with a white smidge on whatever screen shot that is. This is a fan jet engine at 77 feet above sea level and a clear low humidity day.
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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2017, 08:41:55 PM »
Also can we move to tech and alt please to keep the 9/11 discussion in the one sub forum.

Even arts and entertainment as most of the OP's video is animation.

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2017, 08:44:33 PM »
Also can we move to tech and alt please to keep the 9/11 discussion in the one sub forum.

Thanks.

No I disagree,  let's make it a real test of observation skills, and keep it in flat earth general and  away from the 9/11 confirmation bias.

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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2017, 08:57:54 PM »
This is just a test of confirmation bias, you know it is.

This video proves absolutely nothing, I posted far stronger video evidence of UFO's just before.

All this is is another 9/11 opinion poll which has been shown that the majority of posters believe the official story even if none if them can justify it.

You get so dirty when you are losing, there's no need to be dishonest, this was the correct response.

It is unfortunate that the video isn't high enough frame rate to capture a clear, unobstructed view of the plane.

Even though (Edit. I think) totes will vote that he can see the plane because, as I said, this is a just a test of confirmation bias. Most people are too scared to state an opinion on issues like this and you are trying to capitalise on it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2017, 09:40:11 PM »
This thread is bullshit....

Let me explain..

In music back masking, people will tell you what you hear, then play it. Yet the funny thing, you can play a sine wave and accomplish the same goal.

This is no different with rayzor presenting a picture then showing the screen shot....

Not to mention, the white smudge, that is impossible to begin with for a 757...

I have no idea what you are trying to say with a white smidge on whatever screen shot that is. This is a fan jet engine at 77 feet above sea level and a clear low humidity day.

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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2017, 12:38:44 AM »
But the cab driver admitted later he was involved and his presence there was planned - the cab setup in position happened after the explosion!





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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2017, 01:08:11 AM »


Look at the size of that pole - It must be very heavy!

Now think about the effort it would take to extract that pole from the car. How is it that the car has no scratches on the hood (bonnet), after two guys pulled it out through the car's windshield? They would have had to have held it aloft the entire time that it took to extract it, and swing it away from the vehicle and onto the lawn, without scratching the hood! Impossible, unless the mysterious "silent" man in the white van was Superman!
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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2017, 01:17:29 AM »
Thanks Rab, I have a lot of respect for you.

This really is a test of confirmation bias.
:P Do you mean that you doubt that my picture is of a plane?  :P

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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2017, 01:33:48 AM »
Nope, your picture is undoubtedly a plane.

Edit. Typo.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2017, 01:59:52 AM »
But the cab driver admitted later he was involved and his presence there was planned - the cab setup in position happened after the explosion!







What an absolute scumbag.

I hadn't seen that before.
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2017, 03:02:50 AM »
Thanks Rab, I have a lot of respect for you.

This really is a test of confirmation bias.
:P Do you mean that you doubt that my picture is of a plane?  :P

No,  he thinks you are part of the conspiracy to undermine fantasy island.    Speaking of fantasy land,  I know a few forum members who have permanent residency status.   LOL

Great show in it's day,  they don't make tv shows like the used to.
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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2017, 03:08:39 AM »
Great gaslighting.
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2017, 03:12:27 AM »
Great gaslighting.

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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2017, 03:15:13 AM »
It wasn't your best gaslighting don't get carried away.

This thread is a joke.
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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2017, 03:28:08 AM »
For the people who think this is video evidence of a plane.



I have much better video evidence of aliens.

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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2017, 05:50:03 AM »


Look at the size of that pole - It must be very heavy!

Now think about the effort it would take to extract that pole from the car. How is it that the car has no scratches on the hood (bonnet), after two guys pulled it out through the car's windshield? They would have had to have held it aloft the entire time that it took to extract it, and swing it away from the vehicle and onto the lawn, without scratching the hood! Impossible, unless the mysterious "silent" man in the white van was Superman!

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I would say that guy is lying.

The light pole did not touch his car. It is obvious.
It is also unlikely for it to pierce his windshield. It is more likely to have landed on the car and crushed the top of the car and also the hood would be crushed a bit until it reached the engine.

In other words, this cab driver is unreliable. This doesn't mean that a plane did not hit the Pentagon.

Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2017, 08:04:23 AM »


Look at the size of that pole - It must be very heavy!

Now think about the effort it would take to extract that pole from the car. How is it that the car has no scratches on the hood (bonnet), after two guys pulled it out through the car's windshield? They would have had to have held it aloft the entire time that it took to extract it, and swing it away from the vehicle and onto the lawn, without scratching the hood! Impossible, unless the mysterious "silent" man in the white van was Superman!

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I would say that guy is lying.

The light pole did not touch his car. It is obvious.
It is also unlikely for it to pierce his windshield. It is more likely to have landed on the car and crushed the top of the car and also the hood would be crushed a bit until it reached the engine.

In other words, this cab driver is unreliable. This doesn't mean that a plane did not hit the Pentagon.

The cab driver and his cab were in the official story - check out the media that followed the events.
He even appeared beside his cab when reporters covered the event live > just can't remember what news media was that!
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2017, 09:31:23 AM »
This thread ::)

First repeating once more why it is complete utter bs..

This thread is bullshit....

Let me explain..

In music back masking, people will tell you what you hear, then play it. Yet the funny thing, you can play a sine wave and accomplish the same goal.

This is no different with rayzor presenting a picture then showing the screen shot....

Not to mention, the white smudge, that is impossible to begin with for a 757...

I have no idea what you are trying to say with a white smidge on whatever screen shot that is. This is a fan jet engine at 77 feet above sea level and a clear low humidity day.

::) ::)

Who can see this in the picture??





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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2017, 01:51:00 PM »


Look at the size of that pole - It must be very heavy!

Now think about the effort it would take to extract that pole from the car. How is it that the car has no scratches on the hood (bonnet), after two guys pulled it out through the car's windshield? They would have had to have held it aloft the entire time that it took to extract it, and swing it away from the vehicle and onto the lawn, without scratching the hood! Impossible, unless the mysterious "silent" man in the white van was Superman!

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I would say that guy is lying.

The light pole did not touch his car. It is obvious.
It is also unlikely for it to pierce his windshield. It is more likely to have landed on the car and crushed the top of the car and also the hood would be crushed a bit until it reached the engine.

In other words, this cab driver is unreliable. This doesn't mean that a plane did not hit the Pentagon.

The question was, was that blurry smudge a picture of a plane, thanks for confirming you aren't a "conspiracy theorist."

Edit. Not, "do you believe a plane.is in that picture." It's "can you see a plane in that picture."

There is a subtle but important difference.

We have four people that voted that they can see the plane when actually they just believe it's there.

t. Confirmation bias.
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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2017, 03:13:03 PM »
The question was, was that blurry smudge a picture of a plane, thanks for confirming you aren't a "conspiracy theorist."

Edit. Not, "do you believe a plane.is in that picture." It's "can you see a plane in that picture."

There is a subtle but important difference.

We have four people that voted that they can see the plane when actually they just believe it's there.

t. Confirmation bias.

I already voted NO. I don't see any plane. If you don't mention the pentagon, 911....  and you show that to people on the street, no one would guess it is a plane.

Also, I don't see any trees, a road, people or any details.
I guess I see the blue sky at the upper part of the picture.

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Re: Observation Skills Test
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2017, 03:15:54 PM »
Excellent thanks. I agree.

It's fine to say the video evidence is inconclusive imo.

It doesn't prove anything except the video in question is very low quality.

If you don't mention the pentagon, 911....  and you show that to people on the street, no one would guess it is a plane.

It is a test of confirmation bias I agree.

Thanks for being honest, Rayzor this is my opinion on your "video evidence."
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2017, 03:47:39 PM »


Look at the size of that pole - It must be very heavy!

Now think about the effort it would take to extract that pole from the car. How is it that the car has no scratches on the hood (bonnet), after two guys pulled it out through the car's windshield? They would have had to have held it aloft the entire time that it took to extract it, and swing it away from the vehicle and onto the lawn, without scratching the hood! Impossible, unless the mysterious "silent" man in the white van was Superman!

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I would say that guy is lying.

The light pole did not touch his car. It is obvious.
It is also unlikely for it to pierce his windshield. It is more likely to have landed on the car and crushed the top of the car and also the hood would be crushed a bit until it reached the engine.

In other words, this cab driver is unreliable. This doesn't mean that a plane did not hit the Pentagon.

The question was, was that blurry smudge a picture of a plane, thanks for confirming you aren't a "conspiracy theorist."

Edit. Not, "do you believe a plane.is in that picture." It's "can you see a plane in that picture."

There is a subtle but important difference.

We have four people that voted that they can see the plane when actually they just believe it's there.

t. Confirmation bias.

I did vote NO!
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2017, 03:56:20 PM »
I know, sorry Hannibaal, I was talking to coffee crisp who then corrected my assumption.

Wasn't at you.
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2017, 04:07:21 PM »
I know, sorry Hannibaal, I was talking to coffee crisp who then corrected my assumption.

Wasn't at you.

It's okay then!

Can I vote no again?   ;D
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2017, 06:52:29 PM »
I know, sorry Hannibaal, I was talking to coffee crisp who then corrected my assumption.

Wasn't at you.

It's okay then!

Can I vote no again?   ;D

Lol, at least you were honest with yourself, admitting you can't see a plane is not admitting 9/11 is a false flag, as much as Rayzor is trying to push that narrative.

If you don't mention the pentagon, 911....  and you show that to people on the street, no one would guess it is a plane.

This is the honesty I expect from people, it's none of my business if people want to lie to themselves.

I am not sure why people have trouble being honest with themselves, sometimes the truth can be scary.
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