NASA's hands are filthy.

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disputeone

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NASA's hands are filthy.
« on: April 24, 2017, 05:36:25 PM »


This is a weird one, basically an old widower trying to make some cash to support her grandson wants to sell an old moon rock that her husband had being an engineer on the apollo missions.

She tells NASA she has it and they basically sent a SWAT team to retrieve it.

Wtf is up with this, how can they justify treating her like that? What are they so desperately trying to keep out of the publics hands?

Fascinating vid I had to fact check it even tho Tyler is usually pretty good on his research.

Seriously wtf NASA, it just screams secrecy to me. You guys have every right not to trust them, my image of friendly scientists was absolutely shattered by this story.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2017, 05:38:39 PM by disputeone »
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2017, 05:47:41 PM »
My guess is they dont want a lawsuit when the person she sells it to finds out that Earth is flat and the moon missions are faked.

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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2017, 05:56:48 PM »
She is suing NASA now, this is why it came to my attention, this all happened years ago.

Also didn't you follow this story?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2017, 08:50:36 PM »
Anyone's opinion on this?
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 09:04:09 PM »
So some one from the IG dept  is an over zealous looney.  There's a few of them about.   I hope she sues the crap out of them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/14/humiliating-sting-operation-against-elderly-widow-of-apollo-engineer-draws-court-rebuke/?utm_term=.15d539e7ffed

BTW NASA doesn't actually have a SWAT team.
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 09:06:50 PM »
Also didn't you follow this story?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html

Too bad that wasn't the end of that story.
The Rijksmuseum, more noted as a repository for 17th century Dutch paintings, announced last month it had had its plum-sized "moon" rock tested, only to discover it was a piece of petrified wood, possibly from Arizona. The museum said it inherited the rock from the estate of a former prime minister.

The real Dutch moon rocks are in a natural history museum. But the misidentification raised questions about how well countries have safeguarded their presents from Washington.
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2017, 09:11:40 PM »
So some one from the IG dept  is an over zealous looney.  There's a few of them about.   I hope she sues the crap out of them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/14/humiliating-sting-operation-against-elderly-widow-of-apollo-engineer-draws-court-rebuke/?utm_term=.15d539e7ffed

BTW NASA doesn't actually have a SWAT team.

So you come here just to call someone a loony?

Please f*ck off mate.

Also didn't you follow this story?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html

Too bad that wasn't the end of that story.
The Rijksmuseum, more noted as a repository for 17th century Dutch paintings, announced last month it had had its plum-sized "moon" rock tested, only to discover it was a piece of petrified wood, possibly from Arizona. The museum said it inherited the rock from the estate of a former prime minister.

The real Dutch moon rocks are in a natural history museum. But the misidentification raised questions about how well countries have safeguarded their presents from Washington.

I am well aware, thanks Markjo.

I just want to know why NASA went after her like they did and if it's commin practice with moonrocks. After a bit of digging it certainly seems like they don't want anyone elses hands on muh moonrocks.
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2017, 09:33:09 PM »
I think the treatment of this woman is appalling, and what she has done is fallen foul of a campaign to stop illegal trade in moon rocks, There was no SWAT team, however - Secureteam just can't help themselves by lying even when a story is true.

It isn't to prevent people from seeing the rocks aren't real (most are encased in lucite and even if they weren't people tend not to have the analytical equipment needed to test that), it's to stop people making money selling something that isn't theirs.

As for the Dutch rock story it is a piece of lazy journalism.

There is no evidence whatsoever that anyone from the Apollo 11 Giant Leap tour even met the former Dutch leader, never mind gave him anything. At the time they visited no moon rocks were even out of quarantine. No-one ever claimed that it was a moon rock until two Dutch artists put the contents of a drawer together for an exhibition. It is a non-story spun out of all contact with reality by elderly people mis-recalling other events when actual moon rocks were sent on tour much later.
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2017, 11:54:49 PM »
I have a moon rock. Should I be worried?

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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2017, 12:04:57 AM »
I have a moon rock. Should I be worried?

Don't think in terms of having something NASA thugs will break into your house for.  Think of it as kind of a bat signal where you can use it to summon astronauts in an emergency.
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2017, 01:00:13 AM »
Anyone's opinion on this?

Moon rocks are not for sale. Even I know that. 

Is the problem that she is old and therefore should be allowed to violate the law?

How did her husband acquire the specimen in the first place?
NASA doesn't just toss them out as BINGO prizes at the annual Christmas party.

Whenever I illegally sell government property I do it at Jack in the Box.
Never at a lawyer's office.   ::)
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2017, 01:38:05 AM »
America! Greatest country on earth!
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2017, 02:10:50 AM »
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2017, 02:15:15 AM »
Anyone's opinion on this?

Moon rocks are not for sale. Even I know that. 

Is the problem that she is old and therefore should be allowed to violate the law?

How did her husband acquire the specimen in the first place?
NASA doesn't just toss them out as BINGO prizes at the annual Christmas party.

Whenever I illegally sell government property I do it at Jack in the Box.
Never at a lawyer's office.   ::)

You took the words out of my mouth!

She should be thankful they didn't put her in Jail > she worked at Nasa and she should've known that the artifacts are Nasa's property! > if the rocks were really from the Moon!

Maybe it's that piece of shield they were worried about!  ::)
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2017, 04:10:34 AM »
Perhaps, it just strikes me as really odd, by the shape and size of the rock containing the moonrock and heat shield it looks like an obvious gift, the womans late husband was an engineer for apollo 11, he literally got us to the moon. It doesn't strike me as unusual at all that he had a moonrock and seems fine that he should give it to his wife.

Just my opinion.
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2017, 04:36:30 AM »
I did a quick search on this, and came across something on a different moon rock incident:

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The sample the space agency had been looking for went missing in 1970 when the registered and certified mail shipment it had been part of was stolen.

I'm fairly certain they're doing their best to recover moon rock that was lost/stolen. This shit valuable yo, not necessarily just for money but for science. Since we don't have a source on how the engineer obtained the moon rock, I think it is unfair to assume the worst of NASA. Also, the video in the OP is obviously biased.
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Re: NASA's hands are filthy.
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2017, 04:40:33 AM »
No doubt it's biased.

Most videos are, hell the news is awfully biased also.
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