Ping times are disproved the speed of the light

As we know that, an idiot, Einstein suggested the speed of light as an upper limit. In theorically, nothing can move faster than it. But pratically, we exceed it by internet data transfers. I have done a bit of  complicated work in this regard before. Now all we together will do a basic work to understand the issue. All of us will exceed the spped of light together.

I'll do that for once and you can check it by yourself, for this test and for your city.

This is the command:

Click Windows+s

type to command line that: ping google.com -t

You should get a result like that:



In our example, our data went and returned in 12 ms.

Actually this is the half of our speed. request gone and request returned.

Now we'll look the distance between our computer and google.

This is ip location finder site:

https://www.iplocation.net/

I found the place of that server. Type there the adress of google which one written on our command line.



Okey that ip adress located in California, USA.

Now open a online map and measure the distance from your computer and destination computer:

First find out the destination:



How interesting, google computer located a placed neighbor with NASA. What a chance! 

Now click to "measure and find your own city".



In my example, it is 10 810 kms.

Now we can calculate the speed of ping.

A ping works with data send and response.

So total distance is: 10810 x2 = 21 620 kms (I know they appeal this one)
Total time: 12 ms.

Speed of the sent data: 21620 kms / 12 ms = 1.801 kms/ms

Is it familiar ?

Same with universal data transfer speed that we calculated before.

We calculated it before 1.831 km/ms and now corrected as 1.801 kms/ms.

This is not our issue

The universal data speed we calculated now as 1.801 kms/ms = 1.801.000 km/s = 6c

The speed of the light upper limit theory is fucking collapsed!

This is nothing about issue but interesting:

This is nothing about issue but interesting:

There's a Dairy Queen down the road from my house. Does that mean I'm the Queen?
Someone bring me my crown and come cheese curds.

You might want to know that you are not accessing the server in California.

http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/04/11/map-of-all-google-data-center-locations/

There a lots of Google data servers around the globe, decreasing latency by a big factor.

Why don't you try your calculation again with the data center nearest to you?

As we know that, an idiot, Einstein suggested the speed of light as an upper limit. In theorically, nothing can move faster than it. But pratically, we exceed it by internet data transfers. I have done a bit of  complicated work in this regard before. Now all we together will do a basic work to understand the issue. All of us will exceed the spped of light together.

Yes, you did a bit of useless complicated work which just proves you don't understand the internet at all.
You didn't show that the speed of light is violated, or that your model is correct.

Also, your speed was negative.

Now we'll look the distance between our computer and google.

This is ip location finder site:

Thanks for once again showing you don't understand how the internet works.

All that is showing is that the ip address is registered/owned by google.
It isn't showing it is in the US.

And if you use your site, putting in the IP address you used (216.58.212.46), they don't all show the same result.
There is 1 outlier, which looks like it might actually have some somewhat useful data.

It indicates it is located in Bulgaria:
Geolocation data from DB-IP (Product: Full, 2017-4-10)

IP Address   Country   Region   City
216.58.212.46   Bulgaria    Sofia-Capital   Sofia
ISP   Organization   Latitude   Longitude
Google Inc.   Google Inc.   42.6977   23.3219

I'm assuming you live near Instanbul.
It is close to the point on your map.
That gives a distance of 506 km, so a speed of 84 km/ms=84 000 km / s, much slower than the speed of light at ~ 300 000 km / s.




Also note your ping is a mere 12 seconds, much shorter than the time to NY, further breaking your model, and with a distance (that you claim) completely inconsistent with your model. So you are just refuting yourself and making yourself and the entire FE movement look like an idiot. Are you sure you aren't controlled opposition?

The speed of the light upper limit theory is fucking collapsed!

Nope. Just any credibility you might have had.
All you have done is shown you don't understand the internet at all.

They are all unnecessary people. So I do not see any of their post. It is already I don't care.

They are all unnecessary people. So I do not see any of their post. It is already I don't care.

Well, still ignored.
Apparently I am able to disprove him.

Mate, the speed of light is documented in a metres per second, so there is no use in you trying to work it out im kilometres per millisecond as that just opens you to massive errors.

This is nothing about issue but interesting:

Were you aware that Google has servers all over the world?  They're not all in California.  In fact, very few of them are in California.  There are several data centers in Europe, much closer to you than any computer in CA.

Inti is ignorant and proud of it!

They are all unnecessary people. So I do not see any of their post. It is already I don't care.

Ladies and gentlemen, the ambassador for the Institute of Deliberate Stupidity, Dr İntikana Jones.
Could we get a mod to shift this thread into Complete Nonsense?

They are all unnecessary people. So I do not see any of their post. It is already I don't care.

Yes, we are unnecessary, but that doesn't stop us refuting you.
The simple fact is that you do not understand the internet at all.
You aren't pinging a server in California. You are pinging one in Bulgaria, at a speed much lower than the speed of light.

Quote from: İntikam on April 12, 2017, 12:42:08 AM

This is nothing about issue but interesting:

Were you aware that Google has servers all over the world?  They're not all in California.  In fact, very few of them are in California.  There are several data centers in Europe, much closer to you than any computer in CA.

I know. Be sure I'm also on it.

C=fλ
With C being wave speed
f being wave frequency
λ being wavelength
Please oh wise one, explain your findings using this well thought out and proved formula, thank you.

Quote from: Sam Hill on April 12, 2017, 10:58:32 AM

Were you aware that Google has servers all over the world?  They're not all in California.  In fact, very few of them are in California.  There are several data centers in Europe, much closer to you than any computer in CA.

I know. Be sure I'm also on it.

Really? Because it seems like you are pretending they are all in CA, based upon you using CA as the location for the server you pinged, rather than Bulgaria.

Could be worse I guess.

He's not trying to debunk Newton, that's a plus, I guess.

Inky won't see these but I will post them anyway.  So I pinged the same ip address he showed earlier.   Then pinged google.com, it got another address with a much shorter latency, essentially meaning it was much closer to my physical location.

Yet when you use those free online tools like he did, What do you know they only show the location of the parent company.





and another IP address for google.com, what do ya know, it also shows in the same place on the online tool. 


Regardless, this is rather a dumb effort to undertake and try to use it as evidence when you have no clue as to how ip addresses work. 

Yet when you use those free online tools like he did, What do you know they only show the location of the parent company.

Actually, in one case it doesn't.
Putting in 216.58.212.46 in the site he linked, and scrolling down to the DB-IP entry, it gives you Sofia in Bulgaria.
Putting in 74.125.21.138 and scrolling down gives you Chicago, US.
172.217.8.174 also shows Chicago.

This is the database that is used:
https://db-ip.com/

But of course, he doesn't bother with that entry as it would show he is wrong.

Quote from: Mikey T. on April 13, 2017, 05:33:24 PM

Yet when you use those free online tools like he did, What do you know they only show the location of the parent company.

Actually, in one case it doesn't.
Putting in 216.58.212.46 in the site he linked, and scrolling down to the DB-IP entry, it gives you Sofia in Bulgaria.
Putting in 74.125.21.138 and scrolling down gives you Chicago, US.
172.217.8.174 also shows Chicago.

This is the database that is used:
https://db-ip.com/

But of course, he doesn't bother with that entry as it would show he is wrong.

Ahh, I missed that.  TY sir.

Intikam, the fact that your new math calculates speeds in excess of the speed of light should not be interpreted as a great new discovery that upends all of physics.  It should be interpreted as a sign that you've made a mistake.  You are making an extraordinary claim, it requires extraordinary evidence to support it.  Internet ping times do not rise to the level of "extraordinary".  They are in fact quite misleading.

Intikam, the fact that your new math calculates speeds in excess of the speed of light should not be interpreted as a great new discovery that upends all of physics.  It should be interpreted as a sign that you've made a mistake.

So many times this.

I have a bigger issue with it being negative.

Edit: my bad, this one isn't negative, but his original one is.

Jack what's the problem with it being negative, don't you know light actually travels towards the source from your eyes not the other way round, you just didn't account for this in your calculations, pffft call yourself smart, check your privilege mate

Intikam, the fact that your new math calculates speeds in excess of the speed of light should not be interpreted as a great new discovery that upends all of physics.  It should be interpreted as a sign that you've made a mistake.  You are making an extraordinary claim, it requires extraordinary evidence to support it.  Internet ping times do not rise to the level of "extraordinary".  They are in fact quite misleading.

Or maybe they are.

Quote from: Sam Hill on April 17, 2017, 12:50:36 AM

Intikam, the fact that your new math calculates speeds in excess of the speed of light should not be interpreted as a great new discovery that upends all of physics.  It should be interpreted as a sign that you've made a mistake.  You are making an extraordinary claim, it requires extraordinary evidence to support it.  Internet ping times do not rise to the level of "extraordinary".  They are in fact quite misleading.

Or maybe they are.

Well no, no they aren't stop being silly.
Also how does Inti's ignore list work, like if someone he isn't ignoring quotes me, can he read it?

Quote from: İntikam on April 17, 2017, 05:09:15 AM

Quote from: Sam Hill on April 17, 2017, 12:50:36 AM

Intikam, the fact that your new math calculates speeds in excess of the speed of light should not be interpreted as a great new discovery that upends all of physics.  It should be interpreted as a sign that you've made a mistake.  You are making an extraordinary claim, it requires extraordinary evidence to support it.  Internet ping times do not rise to the level of "extraordinary".  They are in fact quite misleading.

Or maybe they are.

Well no, no they aren't stop being silly.
Also how does Inti's ignore list work, like if someone he isn't ignoring quotes me, can he read it?

Yes  - he can also click "show this post", which I suspect he does...

Quote from: Sam Hill on April 17, 2017, 12:50:36 AM

Intikam, the fact that your new math calculates speeds in excess of the speed of light should not be interpreted as a great new discovery that upends all of physics.  It should be interpreted as a sign that you've made a mistake.  You are making an extraordinary claim, it requires extraordinary evidence to support it.  Internet ping times do not rise to the level of "extraordinary".  They are in fact quite misleading.

Or maybe they are.

Yes, they are misleading, especially when you aren't even bothering to find out where you are actually pinging and instead just pretending you are pinging the US.

Quote from: Mikey T. on April 13, 2017, 05:33:24 PM

Yet when you use those free online tools like he did, What do you know they only show the location of the parent company.

Actually, in one case it doesn't.
Putting in 216.58.212.46 in the site he linked, and scrolling down to the DB-IP entry, it gives you Sofia in Bulgaria.
Putting in 74.125.21.138 and scrolling down gives you Chicago, US.
172.217.8.174 also shows Chicago.

This is the database that is used:
https://db-ip.com/

But of course, he doesn't bother with that entry as it would show he is wrong.

Quoting jackblack for anyone paying attention, since inky has most of the people who can destroy his claims quite easily on ignore.

Uh, oh: quoting someone on the Naughty List is one of the ways to get added to the Naughty List...

Uh, oh: quoting someone on the Naughty List is one of the ways to get added to the Naughty List...

What is your point?