Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)

Sure sure. It is a part of conspiracy only Americans play and get.

ISIS which has been created by Americans to kill people where I live around; which has threatened me, killed five of my friends, precisely is enemy of me and vicinity of me, but can harm parsifal in a way because I want it. Ahaha. What a kiddy delusion. What can I do to correct it other than wait them to grow up?

It was Junker's behave, Junker has corrected it after about a year, we have corrected something, I think. But I can't change parsifal. We really has not a real relationship with Parsifal enough to correct something among us.

It makes sense that they wanna keep him around. There are very few vocal flat earth proponents around that still have something to say. Also, makes sense why the other site does not want him, have you seen what he says?!

I am fully aware of the awesomeness that is wise!

I have been here a while, and have had the honour of witnessing his previous avatar, too. Brotherhood of the dome never forget! And fuck the Gülenists! Wise has taught me well!

Of the FE here Danang and wise are cool in their weird way.

What are you two fking doing? If you want to continue ignore my responses and talk yourselves each other only so why do not you use PM instead?

ISIS which has been created by Americans to kill people where I live around

No, ISIS was created by and for Muslims.
Yes, the US did have a part when they forced Saudi Barbaria to play nice, so a splinter group formed, then another and another.
But if they didn't then you would just have Saudi Barbaria instead of ISIS doing what ISIS is doing.

Don't blame the US, blame Islam, blame Mohammed, blame Allah.

Now, have you thought of a way to back up your method yet? Have you found a way to show that search results for some random term should relate linearly with number of believers and no other factors?

Hello fellow my followers;

We are together with another scientific calculation of number of us. Many similar methods in internet prove that trend comparison is successful in questioning beliefs of this type. We will continue to use this proven scientific method.

We will make trend comparisons of the same names in order not to get away from being scientific.

Updata June, 2020

Flat Earth: 651m
NASA: 496m
Jesus: 1.780m

We'll use same method that we always use.

Number of Jesus believers: 2.200m
Search to jesus: 1.780m
Search to flat earth: 651m
Search to nasa: 496m

Number of flat earth believers by using ratio:
2.200m x 651m / 1.780m = 804m

Number of NASA believers by using ratio:
2.200m x 496m / 1.780m = 613m

Summery

FE Knowers: 804m.
NASA Missbelievers: 613m.

While NASA pays hundreds of millions of dollars to its trolls in oz each month to prevent this community, which means little in the flat world community, a much larger movement spontaneously accelerates outside. Well done NASA!

Hello fellow my followers;
We are together with another scientific calculation of number of us. Many similar methods in internet prove that trend comparison is successful in questioning beliefs of this type. We will continue to use this proven scientific method.

You mean another completely unscientific calculation, no better than just pulling numbers from thin air.

Again, using the same broken method you always use:

Number of "Jesus believers" : 2.2 billion.
Search results for Jesus: 1.22 billion.
Search results for Water: 9.27 billion.
So number of water believers is:
(9.27*2.2/1.22) billion  = 16.7 billion, or over 2 times the population of Earth.

So just like always, your method is still completely broken and your numbers are pure nonsense.

As far as I can see, there are no more replies other than than jabblack. I don't see his answer actually, however, considering his general genocidal character, my guess is that he perhaps suggested to make a genocide to the flat earthers and lower their numbers below the number of Nasa hoaxers.

However, God will not allow evil believers like him to do it. Because God is God, not rabblackinoz. You see, I and others are still here, despide zibilions of dollars money NASA spent to stop us.

I don't see his answer actually, however, considering his general genocidal character, my guess is that he perhaps suggested to make a genocide to the flat earthers and lower their numbers below the number of Nasa hoaxers.

Funny. I can see it. There are no such suggestions there.

Is there something wrong with your browser, or connection?

Quote from: wise on June 29, 2020, 06:09:16 AM

I don't see his answer actually, however, considering his general genocidal character, my guess is that he perhaps suggested to make a genocide to the flat earthers and lower their numbers below the number of Nasa hoaxers.

Funny. I can see it. There are no such suggestions there.

Is there something wrong with your browser, or connection?

It is because he has been ignored after he has suggested all muslims have to be murdered. If you change the settings of your forum view, make it to see the signature so you can see it is ignored.

USING THE SAME METHOD, how many believers there is in
- Santa Claus?
- Tooth Fairy?

As far as I can see, there are no more replies other than than jabblack. I don't see his answer actually, however, considering his general genocidal character, my guess is that he perhaps suggested to make a genocide to the flat earthers and lower their numbers below the number of Nasa hoaxers.

However, God will not allow evil believers like him to do it. Because God is God, not rabblackinoz. You see, I and others are still here, despide zibilions of dollars money NASA spent to stop us.

You really shouldn't be complaining about hate speech when you spout so much of it against REers.
But we all know why you really bring up all that crap, because you have no rational refutation to what I have said, so you need to look for whatever excuse you can to dismiss it.

The simple fact there is no basis at all to pretend the number of search results can be used, by itself, to determine the number of believers.
The simple fact that such a method produces more believers than the number of people on Earth for a simple thing like water, shows it cannot be used.
Instead many factors would contribute to how many search results there are.

It is because he has been ignored after he has suggested all muslims have to be murdered.

And there you go lying yet again.
Where did I say anything like that?
Yet again you blatantly vilify me because you cannot rationally defend your claims.

USING THE SAME METHOD, how many believers there is in
- Santa Claus?
- Tooth Fairy?

Good idea.

Santa: 2.2 billion search results, giving roughly 4.0 billion people believing in Santa.

Then just to further show how flawed his method is:
Santa Claus: 0.25 billion search results, giving roughly 0.45 billion people believing in Santa Claus.

So 4 billion people, over half the population of the world believe in Santa, but only 0.45 billion, less than one tenth of the population of the world believe in Santa Claus.

As far as I can see, there are no more replies other than than jabblack. I don't see his answer actually, however, considering his general genocidal character, my guess is that he perhaps suggested to make a genocide to the flat earthers and lower their numbers below the number of Nasa hoaxers.

However, God will not allow evil believers like him to do it. Because God is God, not rabblackinoz. You see, I and others are still here, despide zibilions of dollars money NASA spent to stop us.

Who on Earth is "jabblack"? There is nobody here of that name.

And who suggested "make a genocide to the flat earthers and lower their numbers"? Have you lost your mind?

Of course, there is no "rabblackinoz" here!
There is RABinOZ (me!) and JackBlack - two quite separate people who live in quite different places - get used to it!

Then you say stupid stuff like "You see, I and others are still here, despide zibilions of dollars money NASA spent to stop us".

NASA couldn't care less about YOU and would not even know you exist!

Have you totally lost your mind, Mr Wise?

Here, do you like this nice photo of the Earth and it had nothing to do with NASA!

Hello fellow my followers;

We are together with another scientific calculation of number of us. Many similar methods in internet prove that trend comparison is successful in questioning beliefs of this type. We will continue to use this proven scientific method.

We will make trend comparisons of the same names in order not to get away from being scientific.

Updata June, 2020

Flat Earth: 651m
NASA: 496m
Jesus: 1.780m

We'll use same method that we always use.

Number of Jesus believers: 2.200m
Search to jesus: 1.780m
Search to flat earth: 651m
Search to nasa: 496m

Number of flat earth believers by using ratio:
2.200m x 651m / 1.780m = 804m

Number of NASA believers by using ratio:
2.200m x 496m / 1.780m = 613m

Summery

FE Knowers: 804m.
NASA Missbelievers: 613m.

While NASA pays hundreds of millions of dollars to its trolls in oz each month to prevent this community, which means little in the flat world community, a much larger movement spontaneously accelerates outside. Well done NASA!

Google Trends is probably a more accurate representation of interest. There’s no way to tease out ‘believers’ with any available metric on the fly.

Google Trends
Past 12 Months
Blue = ‘Flat earth’ search term
Red = ‘NASA’ search term

Stats on Anal Lube . . .

Quote from: wise on June 29, 2020, 04:09:14 AM

Hello fellow my followers;

We are together with another scientific calculation of number of us. Many similar methods in internet prove that trend comparison is successful in questioning beliefs of this type. We will continue to use this proven scientific method.

We will make trend comparisons of the same names in order not to get away from being scientific.

Updata June, 2020

Flat Earth: 651m
NASA: 496m
Jesus: 1.780m

We'll use same method that we always use.

Number of Jesus believers: 2.200m
Search to jesus: 1.780m
Search to flat earth: 651m
Search to nasa: 496m

Number of flat earth believers by using ratio:
2.200m x 651m / 1.780m = 804m

Number of NASA believers by using ratio:
2.200m x 496m / 1.780m = 613m

Summery

FE Knowers: 804m.
NASA Missbelievers: 613m.

While NASA pays hundreds of millions of dollars to its trolls in oz each month to prevent this community, which means little in the flat world community, a much larger movement spontaneously accelerates outside. Well done NASA!

Google Trends is probably a more accurate representation of interest. There’s no way to tease out ‘believers’ with any available metric on the fly.

Google Trends
Past 12 Months
Blue = ‘Flat earth’ search term
Red = ‘NASA’ search term

Maybe wise isnt aware of Lackless's experience with what happened to online registered attendees to Trumps Tulsa as any indicator of "true believers"

Stats on Anal Lube . . .

Wow, anal lube is bigger than flat earth, NASA, and Jesus combined. Maybe a forum dedicated to these ‘believers’ is needed.

Well, the numbers don't lie.

Wise might need to switch his attention to a different thing.

Well, the numbers don't lie.

Wise might need to switch his attention to a different thing.

At a minimum he should be including anal lube believers in his calculations.

I am believer in lubes. Not sure that makes me religious, but I have faith.

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Blue Ridge Mountains

Shenandoah River

SQUEEEEEEEL like a Pig

Man, that is a good film.

I wonder if the mountain men were FE? Pretty sure they do not trust NASA. Or the federal government.

An update has been required to see the situation that has developed over the five years that have passed.

First, to understand the number, we will compare three words: flat earth, NASA, and Jesus.



Jesus 79, NASA 21, flat earth 1.

Given that there are 2.4 billion people in the world who believe in Jesus, we can calculate the others accordingly using this formula:

Believers in NASA = 21/79 × 2.4 billion = 638 million.

Believers in flat earth = 1/79 × 2.4 billion = 30 million.

We see that the number of people who believe in the flat earth is facing a serious decline.

Compared to the study we conducted five years ago:

Believers in Jesus have increased from 1.65 billion to 2.4 billion. This may actually be related to greater internet usage, which makes sense. We can see that it has increased somewhat.

Believers in NASA have risen from 637 million to 638 million and have remained almost the same.

Believers in the flat earth have declined from 301 million to 89 million, and this is a significant break. This situation needs to be addressed seriously.

If we look at it by region, we see that the highest number of YouTube searches for flat earth in the world are made in Yemen. Yemen is also one of the rare countries that challenges global powers, and this did not surprise us.



One of the countries that stands out in web searches is Australia, and this did not surprise us either.



Australia is also a country with a population that is seriously curious about NASA.



When we compare flat earth and NASA, Tasmania stands out from the rest of Australia, and flat-earth searches become more prominent there.



The ranking of the countries most engaged with flat-earth content worldwide has changed, and Afghanistan has taken the lead. I guess they’re experiencing an enlightenment after the change in their government. Haha.



Our biggest supporters being Afghanistan doesn’t sound pleasant, I’m aware.. In fact, it may even be irritating. But that’s how it is for you. It’s not the same from our perspective. Maybe the jihadists are right — who knows? Let’s not judge immediately.

Anyway. In light of these details, we can analyze what happened to the flat earth more clearly. Later.

We don't know the ecaxt value of believers in the world. Actually there is no a valid method to detect it. But we can use some method of estimation.

In a work, we detected number of believers as 500.000 by using the method of "number of videos".

This time, we'll use the method of "comparing searchings".

It is meaning full There is a relevant between a belief and its number of searching. Also Education and welfare status affect to number of searchings. So We can not say it is exactly right. But may give approximate approximation to reality.

First We'll use the number of searching of main beliefs:

According to wiki, the populations of some beliefs:

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups

(religion / in millions)

Christianity 2,200
Islam 1,703
Hinduism 1,100
Buddhism 488
Sikhism 23
Judaism 17
Flat earth ? (we are trying to calculate this)

Now we search on google by direct name of this religions:

Religions: search by term:

Jesus 890.000.000
Bible 458.000.000
christ 424.000.000

Islam 455.000.000
muhammed 60.000.000
mohammad 160.000.000
محمد. 780.000.000  محمد.
quran 118.000.000

Hinduism 25.000.000
Hindu 168.000.000

Buddism 56.800.000
Buddha 167.000.000
Buda 55.100.000
Dharma 48.500.000

Sikhism 4.480.000

Judaism 36.400.000

Flat earth  9.330.000

As we see that some of religions Identified with someone. The searching of Jesus is more than Christ or bible. And name of the mohammad by arabic is more than islam, quran and others. So I'll get these names instead of a religion. And we'll calculate a rate by "Number of search / number of believer)

Term / Number of search / Number of Believer / Reverse ratio

1- jesus 890.000.000 / 2.200.000.000  (X 2,47)
2- Ar.Mohammad 780.000.000 / 1.703.000.000  (x 2,18)
3- Hindu 168.000.000 / 1.100.000.000 (x 6,54)
4- Buddha 167.000.000 / 488.000.000 (x 2,92)
5- Sikhism 4.480.000 / 23.000.000 (x 5,13)
6- Judaism 36.400.000 / 17.000.000 (x 0,46)

The possible reason of difference of judaism than others means other Abrahamic people interest with judaism. This is understandable.

We see that generally there is a relevant with number of believers and  number of terms. It is usually changing by 2 to 7 times.

Even if the number searching of judaism misleading, we use it too by to be unbiased.

Now we'll estimate number of flat earth believers by using the ratios of the religions/terms:

1- (x2,47) 9.330.000 = 23 045 000
2- (x2,18) 9.330.000 = 20 339 000
3- (x6,54) 9.330.000 = 61 018 000 (max)
4- (x 2,92) 9.330.000 = 27 243 000
5- (x 5,13) 9.330.000 = 47 863 000
6- (x 0,46) 9.330.000 = 4 291 800 (min)

So; number of believers should be between 4 millions to 61 millions.

As an average value, we can accept the number of believers as 30 633 000 as of April 2017. I know this is amazing, but statistics do not lie.

STATISTICS SUMMERY CHART
Data -  Number of Believers (If there is two millions so the right one shows number of NASA believers)
April 2017 - 30m.
September 2017 - 43m.
October 2017 - 36m.
December 2017- 40m.
February 2018- 41m.
April 2018- 84m. (717m nasa)
May 2018- 75m. JUMPING POINT
September 2018- 763m.
October 2018- 633m. (521m. nasa)
November 2018- 865m.
December 2018- 935m.
February 2019- 652m.
March 2019- 803m.
May 2019- 744m. (658m. nasa)
July 2019 - 671m. (595m.)

Ummm some problems.
You're basing on video searches? Try doing a real statistical search. 63% of the "nones" says they are believers in religion but "nothing in particular". 9% (4% atheist, 5% agnostic) of the population are actually nonreligious, the rest just don't belong to any temple.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/

As of 2023, about 4% of Americans identify as atheists and approximately 5% as agnostics.

Stop trying to do the Usopp fake army ploy with regard to atheism.

Second, Flat Earth is not a religion, even less than atheism is not a religion. They are usually Muslim or some brand of Christian. Some are atheist/agnostic. Eric Dubay seems to be into Hindu yoga stuff.

Third, statistics do in fact lie.
 https://www.statisticser.com/how-to-lie-with-statistics/
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/217011/economics/how-statistics-can-be-false-or-misleading/

Fourth, if we're doing searches for things, keep in mind that I occasionally search atheism. Like "How can (atheists) think the way they do?" Replace atheism with flat Earth, and you have the exact problem of using searches to determine if someone is a FE believer.

First, to understand the number, we will compare three words: flat earth, NASA, and Jesus.

And as I have said repeatedly, that isn't understanding the number. That is just pure BS.
Again, search results do not correspond to how many people believe in a particular idea.

Maybe the jihadists are right — who knows? Let’s not judge immediately.

They aren't. Especially as we know Earth isn't flat.

Congratulations, Jack Black.

You and I agree on something.

At least in principle.