# Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)

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#### Stash

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #300 on: May 13, 2019, 11:56:00 PM »
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You're not here to critise anything but insulting. This issue has explained you countless time, water and Jesus isn't in same category. You can compare water with only "oil". But you deny the fact and I've decided you're hopeless case. Your posts are absent in my opinion. Your posts are full of garbage, your statements are unfair, and you are not here to share or learn anything but prevent people share ideas themselves. You are an internet parasite / virus has to be get deleted.

You've said same appeal earlier many times, and I told that this appeal isn't valid and I'll not care it. Even so you're repeating same shit, although you know I'll not take it in account. Inother say, you are writing something that you know it will not take in the account at all. You are a full waste of time, You are a full waste of time even for your parents.

Writing "grow up" doesn't make you grown, just show you ugly and childish.

For the billionth time here's why your methodology belongs in the waste bin:

A) You're simply using the estimated number of results for a given search term as described by Google:

"When you perform a search, the results are often displayed with the information: About XXXX results (X seconds).
Google's calculation of the total number of search results is an estimate. We understand that a ballpark figure is valuable, and by providing an estimate rather than an exact account, we can return quality search results faster."

B) The results numbers returned have nothing to do with being a "believer" or not. It's just the estimated number sites (mentions) that are relevant based upon that keyword.
If I type in 'Jesus' and get "About 1,080,000,000 results (0.55 seconds)", by your logic, all 1,080,000,000 results should start off, "You are a Believer in Jesus..." regardless of which one of the billion I click on. That is absurd.

C) You're better off just using google trends from an "interest", not "believer", point of view. And just compare over time apples to apples. For instance, in google trends, 'flat earth' trends like this over the past 5 years:

And like this over the last 90 days:

And if you want to get ridiculous and compare apple to oranges to kumquats, here's a 'flat earth', 'nasa', 'jesus' 5 year "interest" view.:

No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

#### Jura-Glenlivet II

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #301 on: May 14, 2019, 12:16:01 AM »

Solid work Stash.
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#### wise

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #302 on: May 14, 2019, 02:05:13 AM »
Parasites in the forum are trying to prevent people see this solid working:

This working is delayed because of elections in Istanbul, I was busy. I've forgot to update this statistics page. Now it is on.

Update 05 May, 2019 the year of revolution

Jesus 1.540.000.000
محمد. 892.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 231.000.000
flat earth 521.000.000
nasa: 461.000.000

For the first time, number of flat earth believers is more than number of NASA believers.

Calculating number of believers in May 2019

We'll use same method that we always use.

Number of Jesus believers: 2.200.000.000
Search to jesus: 1.540.000.000
Search to flat earth: 521.000.000

Number of flat earth believers by using ratio:
2.200.000.000 x 521.000.000 / 1.540.000.000 = 744.285.714

Number of NASA believers by using ratio:
2.200.000.000 x 461.000.000 / 1.540.000.000 = 658.571.429

Number of flat earth believers was 802.620.689 in March 2019.

In other say,

Number of flat earth believers decreased 7% in two months.

In same period,

Number of NASA believers decreased 13% in two months.

Rate of flat earth believers in all population in entire world: 744/7700 = 10% of the world is believing the earth is flat.

Rate of NASA believers in all population in entire world: 658/7700 = 9% of the world is believing to the NASA.

So;

10% of people believe the earth is flat
9% of people believe the earth is how NASA says,
81% of people are indecisive.

Throw the first stone who of you are geting more salary from NASA.

As a result, number of FE believers are more than NASA believers in May 2019, year of revolution.
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#### JackBlack

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« Reply #303 on: May 14, 2019, 03:03:46 AM »
You're not here to critise anything but insulting.
No. I am here to criticise your method. You are using an approach which does not work.
You cannot simply equate the number of results to the number of believers. It is far more complex than that.
Even if you wish to assert you can do it for a subset, you still have massive issues as you are yet to demonstrate that you can (and you can't, the simplest example of this is just putting in different terms for the same belief and different results, but you also have the example of Jesus, Mo and Hindu where Hinduism is massively underrepresented, even though that is a religion), nor have you demonstrated that FE, NASA and Jesus all belong in the same category.
Jesus is a mythical figure from the religion of Christianity.
FE is a false, refuted idea about the shape of Earth.
NASA is an organisation.
These are vastly different things and there is no reason to think grouping them together is any more valid than including water.

So cut the crap. Your excuses do not work to justify your method.
You are yet to show your method is valid or that my objections are unsound. Until you do, I will continue to bring up these objections whenever you use this horrible method.

Pointing out these massive issues is not harassing you.
However, you ignoring these issues and just repeating your same nonsense shows your lack of honesty and integrity.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 03:09:28 AM by JackBlack »

#### wise

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« Reply #304 on: May 14, 2019, 03:05:47 AM »
« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 03:07:24 AM by wise »
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#### wise

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #305 on: May 14, 2019, 03:11:46 AM »
No. I am here to criticise your method. You are using an approach which does not work.

You are saying lie. Your are aiming to prevent people arrive and discuss with me or other FE scientists. You are clearly like a billet on the way has to be removed from the path.
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#### JackBlack

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« Reply #306 on: May 14, 2019, 04:18:33 AM »
You are saying lie. Your are aiming to prevent people arrive and discuss with me or other FE scientists. You are clearly like a billet on the way has to be removed from the path.
Are you going to try and defend your method? If not, why bother continuing to use it?

You aren't a scientist. Stop pretending to be one.

#### wise

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #307 on: May 14, 2019, 06:15:48 AM »
You aren't a scientist.
Nope, I am. You are not deciding anything here. You are not a right of critize my methods because you are not a scientist.
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#### sokarul

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« Reply #308 on: May 14, 2019, 07:57:36 AM »
I am a scientist and I think you are wrong. As they stated, your method sucks.
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#### Stash

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« Reply #309 on: May 14, 2019, 10:02:27 AM »

Here's an interesting one. Google 'interests' over the past 30 days:
- Worldwide
- 'Flat Earth', 'NASA', & 'Elon Musk'

No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

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#### JackBlack

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« Reply #310 on: May 14, 2019, 02:19:28 PM »
Nope, I am. You are not deciding anything here. You are not a right of critize my methods because you are not a scientist.
If you were a scientist you would accept criticism of your work and either defend your method or admit your method doesn't work and stop using it.

The fact that you continue to use your invalid method even when the problems with it have been pointed out repeatedly and you simply ignore these problems show that you are not a scientist.

Now like I said, either defend your method or stop using it. Until you do so, I will continue to expose it.

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#### Themightykabool

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« Reply #311 on: May 14, 2019, 03:26:28 PM »
This is thesame guy who is making a map based on flight times???
Key word time.

Time
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Anyone surpised his other method of calculations is wacko?

#### Crutchwater

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #312 on: May 14, 2019, 07:06:38 PM »
Again and again and again. TYPING "FLAT EARTH" IN A SEARCH BAR DOES NOT EQUAL BELIEVING THE EARTH IS FLAT!

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#### Stash

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« Reply #313 on: May 14, 2019, 11:34:44 PM »
It's really interesting to delve into the google trend data. Here's another slice. Again, just YouTube search interest on flat earth going back to 2008 worldwide. I find the YouTube interest trends most interesting because that's really where the focus has been for the past few years. As well, I think starting earlier this year Google announced they would would be staving the recommendations of vids on YT that promoted borderline content (Google's words, not mine; flat earth was mentioned in the same breath as 'miracle cures' and 9/11 Truthers...). So it will be interesting to see what impact that has on the flat earth interest trends.

For instance, what happened on YT around December 2014 to cause YT FE interest to hockey stick up to 100? What kicked that off? What caused the severe downward trend in October 2017? All cool stuff I'd like to figure out. Input, anecdotal or otherwise appreciated.

No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

#### wise

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #314 on: May 15, 2019, 12:05:04 AM »
Again and again and again. TYPING "FLAT EARTH" IN A SEARCH BAR DOES NOT EQUAL BELIEVING THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Again, again and again. We can get the ratio of believers in people typing flat earth as close as number of Jesus believers people type "JESUS" in search bar.

Get it Here to laugh at you??
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#### wise

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #315 on: May 15, 2019, 12:08:22 AM »
Nope, I am. You are not deciding anything here. You are not a right of critize my methods because you are not a scientist.
If you were a scientist you would accept criticism of your work and either defend your method or admit your method doesn't work and stop using it.

The fact that you continue to use your invalid method even when the problems with it have been pointed out repeatedly and you simply ignore these problems show that you are not a scientist.

Now like I said, either defend your method or stop using it. Until you do so, I will continue to expose it.

There is nothing around debunk my workings. You and your other alt membership rabinoz are constantly repeating same baseless BS are not critism. You're just parasite of this forum. You are a contradiction of this life that God has created you unnecessiraly. Because you are not working for anything positive or negative in this world, just air pollution.
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#### Stash

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« Reply #316 on: May 15, 2019, 12:53:22 AM »
Again and again and again. TYPING "FLAT EARTH" IN A SEARCH BAR DOES NOT EQUAL BELIEVING THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Again, again and again. We can get the ratio of believers in people typing flat earth as close as number of Jesus believers people type "JESUS" in search bar.

Actually, no you can't. Not at all in fact. Just because someone types, "flat earth" in google does not make one a 'believer'. I type that all the time. Capiche?

As well, you are just looking at the search "returns", not what people are searching on.
Capiche?

Your methodology makes no sense. Sorry, it's been debunked.

Let's work together to find a better way to display metrics. I think I have one that I will give to you.
No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

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#### JackBlack

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« Reply #317 on: May 15, 2019, 03:49:25 AM »
Again, again and again. We can get the ratio of believers in people typing flat earth as close as number of Jesus believers people type "JESUS" in search bar.
You are yet to substantiate that in any way.
Stop just asserting nonsense.

Also, that isn't what you are doing.
You are looking at the number of results, not the number of people searching for it.

There is nothing around debunk my workings.
Again, you just ignoring it doesn't magically mean it doesn't exist.
The debunk of your nonsense remains.
You are yet to provide any justification for why it should work. So far all it is is your baseless claim.

#### Crutchwater

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #318 on: May 15, 2019, 08:47:49 AM »
Again and again and again. TYPING "FLAT EARTH" IN A SEARCH BAR DOES NOT EQUAL BELIEVING THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Again, again and again. We can get the ratio of believers in people typing flat earth as close as number of Jesus believers people type "JESUS" in search bar.

Get it Here to laugh at you??

No sir, you can not. I would argue that most searches are performed in incredulity. "Are there really people that believe this nonsense" kind of incredulity.

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#### Macarios

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« Reply #319 on: May 20, 2019, 07:41:31 PM »
How many people search for "round earth" ?
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

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#### Themightykabool

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« Reply #320 on: May 21, 2019, 03:22:13 PM »
Or unicorns
Or bigfoot
Or extension cords with two male ends.

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#### JackBlack

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« Reply #321 on: May 21, 2019, 04:38:26 PM »
Or extension cords with two male ends.
They are great for powering isolated networks temporarily.
Or for screwing up houses with multi-phase wiring.

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#### Themightykabool

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« Reply #322 on: May 23, 2019, 12:55:40 PM »
Are you serious thats a thing?!!
Or am i mistaking some sort of rare ol' man jackb sarcasm?
Hahah

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#### JackBlack

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« Reply #323 on: May 23, 2019, 01:46:06 PM »
Are you serious thats a thing?!!
Or am i mistaking some sort of rare ol' man jackb sarcasm?
Hahah
It was more the piggy back ones (i.e. male plug with female socket in the plug, that way you don't lose a socket)
Some people would wire up sheds or the like on an isolated power network, and then have a lead with 2 male ends to connect it to their house/some place with power.

It resulted in the piggy back power plugs getting far harder to buy because of the whole live metal prongs being exposed thing.

I'm not sure if it is just a legend/myth, but I have heard stories of it happening and wouldn't be surprised if people did it.

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#### Themightykabool

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« Reply #324 on: May 23, 2019, 02:04:48 PM »
haha

"widow maker".
haha
well so looks like if you can't buy one doesn't prevent dumbasses from making one.

#### Stash

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« Reply #325 on: June 03, 2019, 10:14:47 PM »
May Google Trends for 'Flat Earth' Search (Go New Zealand!):

No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

#### Stash

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« Reply #326 on: July 08, 2019, 05:42:26 PM »
Since I've started tracking Google Trends (March 4th, 2019 to Current):

'flat earth' web searches, worldwide:

Baseline impressive if you go back 5 years to date:

'flat earth' web searches, worldwide (Past 5 Years):

'flat earth' YouTube searches, worldwide (Past 5 Years):

No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

#### wise

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #327 on: July 08, 2019, 11:58:23 PM »
Update 9 July 2019

Jesus 1.740.000.000
محمد. 923.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 262.000.000
flat earth 531.000.000
nasa: 471.000.000

We'll use same method that we always use.

Number of Jesus believers: 2.200.000.000
Search to jesus: 1.740.000.000
Search to flat earth: 531.000.000
Search to nasa: 471.000.000

Number of flat earth believers by using ratio:
2.200.000.000 x 531.000.000 / 1.740.000.000 = 671.379.310

Number of NASA believers by using ratio:
2.200.000.000 x 471.000.000 / 1.740.000.000 = 595.517.241

Summery chart of statistics has been added to the OP.
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#### Stash

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« Reply #328 on: July 09, 2019, 12:21:44 AM »

No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

#### Smoke Machine

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« Reply #329 on: July 09, 2019, 01:53:20 AM »
Stash, thanks for an accurate graph. Jesus, muslim, hindu, and NASA, are all doing well, but, umm, interest in flat earth looks to be, should I say, "flat"lining. Yet, wise says belief of flat earth exceeds NASA believers?