# Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)

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#### wise

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##### Re: September 2017, 43millions
« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2017, 11:32:25 PM »
Update of October 2017:

Religions: search by term at October 25, 2017

Jesus 868.000.000 ↓
Bible 506.000.000 ↓
christ 421.000.000 ↓

Islam 477.000.000  ↑
محمد. 648.000.000  محمد. ↓

Hindu 169.000.000  →

Buddha 172.000.000 ↓

Judaism 52.000.000 ↑↑

Flat earth  11.100.000 ↓↓

Compare with 1 month earlier results:

Result September / October (millions) / Increase or decrease the interest rate (+-)

Jesus: 886 > 868 -2%
Arabic Mohammad: 655 > 648 -1%
Hindu: 169 > 169  +-0%
Buddha: 179 >172 -4%
Judaism: 46,3 > 52 +12%
Flat earth: 13,0 > 11 -15%

Result of this statistics:

1- the total number of search results can be reduced. then some results are extracted from the statistical database over time. this is an effect that weakens the reliability of the statistic.

2- A significant decrease is the search about the word of "flat earth". (-15%) ( it was +40% in september)

3- A significant increase about the interest to judaism. Judaism continues to take interest in internet searches with (+12%). It was (+27%) in september.

4- As an estimation, the believers of the flat earth decreased to 36.380.000 from 42.800.000. (-%15)

Commentary

The international interest to flat eart  is started to decreasing, compared to the interest in september. Meanwhile this rate of decreasing is the most rate in whole beliefs.

This result is not compatibled with the interest in past 1 year. for this reason we can estimate that this reduction is temporary. this reduction may become permanent. the whole point here, the factors which causes the decreasing the interest to flat earth should be examined and solutions should be discussed and developed.
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#### Shifter

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #91 on: October 24, 2017, 11:46:21 PM »
Perhaps at the current time, flat earthers have hit a saturation point. There are still active searches for the term so there are still new people interested however. What we need is celebrity power like when Shaq admitted he was a flat earther. John Davis, with your profile are you able to have an interview with Shaq and get him on the news again? Could you seek out other celebrities? The flat earth society needs headline news again

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2017, 12:06:09 AM »
Perhaps at the current time, flat earthers have hit a saturation point. There are still active searches for the term so there are still new people interested however. What we need is celebrity power like when Shaq admitted he was a flat earther. John Davis, with your profile are you able to have an interview with Shaq and get him on the news again? Could you seek out other celebrities? The flat earth society needs headline news again

I agree. Past months we had some famous men like Shaq in USA and in Tolgay Demir as a politician in Turkey, a rapper that I forgot his name, made FET popular. There are no such people right now. I'm trying to contact Tolgay Demir but still did not achieved. maybe we can bring up such a person in turkey. but such PR work must also be done in different countries such as Europe. France, for example, is very passive. In fact, we should start with the most passive countries. Because there is more potential there. here in the largest duty  the members of the population are living in which flat earth is unpopular countries.
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#### JamesTheSearcherForTruth

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #93 on: October 25, 2017, 02:08:55 AM »
From what i noticed  flat earth slowly is gaining more followers. But still its not huge yet.
I  am upset that there is millions and none is interested to go there they all find excuses.
Excuses: "Its cold we will die" ----  for people who say that i dont know do you live under rocks or  you just didnt follow up technology during recent years of developments... .. .. .there is some very good and fine heat technology ,,, just one of them being  HEAT-clothing that produce and keep heat near your body 10 to 12 times more then normal winter jacket.

#### ausGeoff

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #94 on: October 25, 2017, 02:43:01 AM »
We don't know the exact value of believers in the world. Actually there is no a valid method to detect it. But we can use some method of estimation.

Nope.  There is no way you or anyone else can make even a rough "estimation".

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Flat earth  9,330,000

Citation required.

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So I'll get these names instead of a religion. And we'll calculate a rate by "Number of search / number of believers

This is an imaginary, non-existent "ratio" which you seem to have simply made up by reverse engineering.

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As an average value, we can accept the number of believers as 30,633,000 as of April 2017. I know this is amazing, but statistics do not lie.

You haven't actually used any statistics at all to arrive at this figure.  Your "methodology" is embarrassingly absurd, and built around your initial mythical figure of 9,330,000 persons.  Where did you get that figure from?  Thin air?

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #95 on: October 25, 2017, 02:55:20 AM »
We don't know the exact value of believers in the world. Actually there is no a valid method to detect it. But we can use some method of estimation.

Nope.  There is no way you or anyone else can make even a rough "estimation".

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Flat earth  9,330,000

Citation required.

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So I'll get these names instead of a religion. And we'll calculate a rate by "Number of search / number of believers

This is an imaginary, non-existent "ratio" which you seem to have simply made up by reverse engineering.

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As an average value, we can accept the number of believers as 30,633,000 as of April 2017. I know this is amazing, but statistics do not lie.

You haven't actually used any statistics at all to arrive at this figure.  Your "methodology" is embarrassingly absurd, and built around your initial mythical figure of 9,330,000 persons.  Where did you get that figure from?  Thin air?

You should to stop to seperate my posts anymore if you want to discuss with me anymore. This is an unlikable discussing type. This is a type of rabinoz style and in my opinion he is the top of nause person in here.
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#### JamesTheSearcherForTruth

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #96 on: October 25, 2017, 03:01:04 AM »
Intikam performed similair calculation methods on statistic as religion most of the time perform. Religions that perform an include similair methods : Catholic Church ( CATHOLIC), Jewish Religion, and Islam Religion. All parts ,  that is three parts of abrahamic religion (catholic,jewish,islam) perform and include similair or SAME methods of calculating of  their believers and followers as did Intikam.
So long talk short... Intikam is right.

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #97 on: October 25, 2017, 03:07:57 AM »
From what i noticed  flat earth slowly is gaining more followers. But still its not huge yet.
I  am upset that there is millions and none is interested to go there they all find excuses.
Excuses: "Its cold we will die" ----  for people who say that i dont know do you live under rocks or  you just didnt follow up technology during recent years of developments... .. .. .there is some very good and fine heat technology ,,, just one of them being  HEAT-clothing that produce and keep heat near your body 10 to 12 times more then normal winter jacket.

I think you mean american tourists wearing short shorts in winter. they are wearing centrally heated shoes.
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#### JamesTheSearcherForTruth

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #98 on: October 25, 2017, 03:12:19 AM »
I agree with your statistics. And i agree with most of what you said.  And for that excuses i can only say , real excuse is for most people either no money or no balls to do it. Or in some cases both of those things.

#### rabinoz

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #99 on: October 25, 2017, 03:13:31 AM »
You should to stop to seperate my posts anymore if you want to discuss with me anymore. This is an unlikable discussing type. This is a type of rabinoz style and in my opinion he is the top of nause person in here.
What does that gobbledegook mean?
Why shouldn't ausGeoff split your posts, everyone else does the same sort of thing, so stop being a fusspot!
Just put up with the way someone chooses to reply, you spoilt childish brat!

But,  please don't change, you make the whole idea of a flat earth look so ridiculous that no rational person could believe in it.

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #100 on: October 25, 2017, 03:16:38 AM »
I agree with your statistics. And i agree with most of what you said.  And for that excuses i can only say , real excuse is for most people either no money or no balls to do it. Or in some cases both of those things.

Oh, thank you for support. They really don't know how we defend this theory by getting the risks for us. We are defending the truth with put our heads in the lion's mouth. On the other hand, despite of all risks which taken by us, ordinary people just doing pooh-pooh.
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#### JamesTheSearcherForTruth

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #101 on: October 25, 2017, 03:23:49 AM »
I dont wanna sound harsh... But there is so many  brainwashed people, that they cannot simply think for themselves, and  they cannot use logic and think out of box... For them it  is mission impossible  to do anything like that.

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #102 on: October 25, 2017, 03:26:18 AM »
I dont wanna sound harsh... But there is so many  brainwashed people, that they cannot simply think for themselves, and  they cannot use logic and think out of box... For them it  is mission impossible  to do anything like that.

The television is killing the brain. First everybody have to get rid of that stupid box.
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#### JamesTheSearcherForTruth

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #103 on: October 25, 2017, 03:31:41 AM »
True. I mean there is some true in shows. Like for example in game of thrones is showed ice wall. Some truth in plain sight. Normal (brainwashed people) wouldnt notice it but i notice signs and signals.
I know this is not subject of thread but i will ask anyways, what do you believe is outside of antartic wall ??

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#### JackBlack

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #104 on: October 25, 2017, 03:38:59 AM »
I dont wanna sound harsh... But there is so many  brainwashed people, that they cannot simply think for themselves, and  they cannot use logic and think out of box... For them it  is mission impossible  to do anything like that.
Yes, like Intikam (and other FEers), that makes numerous baseless claims and horribly flawed arguments; and then when people clearly and logically explain what is wrong with them, he decides to insult them and ignore them.

#### JamesTheSearcherForTruth

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #105 on: October 25, 2017, 03:44:02 AM »
My last post . (Post where i say i quote " i dont wanna sound harsh" was meant for you and rest of brainwashed people like you Black. Hope you wake up from dreamland you live in.
I can only SAY one thing about you Black. And that is that you just know how to twist things and words from other people posts.

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #106 on: October 25, 2017, 03:52:29 AM »
True. I mean there is some true in shows. Like for example in game of thrones is showed ice wall. Some truth in plain sight. Normal (brainwashed people) wouldnt notice it but i notice signs and signals.
I know this is not subject of thread but i will ask anyways, what do you believe is outside of antartic wall ??

My belief is there is more lands outside. I have some philosophical evidences about it.
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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #107 on: October 25, 2017, 04:00:44 AM »
My last post . (Post where i say i quote " i dont wanna sound harsh" was meant for you and rest of brainwashed people like you Black. Hope you wake up from dreamland you live in.
I can only SAY one thing about you Black. And that is that you just know how to twist things and words from other people posts.

He is in my ignore list. Their aims are confuse people and make perception study. they are the best in word games. I recommend you to ignore people like this.
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#### JackBlack

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #108 on: October 25, 2017, 04:22:09 AM »
My last post . (Post where i say i quote " i dont wanna sound harsh" was meant for you and rest of brainwashed people like you Black. Hope you wake up from dreamland you live in.
I can only SAY one thing about you Black. And that is that you just know how to twist things and words from other people posts.
Except I'm not the brainwashed one. You are projecting your own inadequacies onto others.

All the evidence in the world is either inconclusive or shows Earth to be round.
We are the ones accepting this evidence and what it indicates. Meanwhile you reject it, doing whatever you can to pretend your delusional fantasies are real.

I don't twist things, I was merely pointing out your (implicit) hypocrisy.
You are describing the FEers, not the REers.

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#### JackBlack

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #109 on: October 25, 2017, 04:23:09 AM »
He is in my ignore list. Their aims are confuse people and make perception study. they are the best in word games. I recommend you to ignore people like this.
No, that would be your aim.
My aim is to show the truth, as simply as possible.
The sole reason you ignored me is because I refuted you too many times.

#### wise

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##### December Statistics: 36 millions
« Reply #110 on: December 04, 2017, 11:44:55 PM »
Update of December, 2017

Religions: search by term at December 05, 2017

Jesus 883.000.000 ↑
Bible 520.000.000 ↑
christ 425.000.000 ↑

Islam 484.000.000  ↑
محمد. 654.000.000  محمد. ↑

Hindu 171.000.000  ↑

Buddha 169.000.000 ↓

Judaism 63.500.000 ↑↑

Flat earth  11.100.000 →

Compare with results in October:

Result october / December (millions) / Increase or decrease the interest rate (+-)

Jesus: 868 > 883 +2%
Arabic Mohammad: 648 > 654 +1%
Hindu: 169 > 171  +1%
Buddha: 172 >169 -2%
Judaism: 52 > 63,5 +22%
Flat earth: 11,1 > 11,1 0%

Result of this statistics:

It is seem that people in the world generally re-orient themselves back to religions.

Especially the interest on Judaism continue to highly increasing related to the other beliefs. This is the most noticeable point in this statistic.

As an estimation, the number of the Flat Earth Believers are holding on 36.380.000. This is a bit amazing because according to google trends the interest to flat earth arrived to the top level.
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#### ItsRoundIPromise

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##### Re: December Statistics: 36 millions
« Reply #111 on: December 05, 2017, 05:02:36 AM »

Result of this statistics numbers that aren't related in any meaningful way:

There is no result or conclusion that can be drawn from this collection of unrelated numbers.
I fixed this up for you a little bit.  You're welcome.

#### wise

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##### Re: December Statistics: 36 millions
« Reply #112 on: December 05, 2017, 05:07:39 AM »

Result of this statistics numbers that aren't related in any meaningful way:

There is no result or conclusion that can be drawn from this collection of unrelated numbers.
I fixed this up for you a little bit.  You're welcome.

Sounds like a clone.
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#### JackBlack

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##### Re: December Statistics: 36 millions
« Reply #113 on: December 05, 2017, 01:28:25 PM »
As an estimation, the number of the Flat Earth Believers are holding on 36.380.000.
And what is this estimation based upon?

This is a bit amazing because according to google trends the interest to flat earth arrived to the top level.
Not really.
It shows there may still be hope for humanity, that this FE nonsense is just a fad that will die like Myspace, unlike creationism.

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##### Correction o Calculating the number of believers (December 2017 update 2)
« Reply #114 on: December 06, 2017, 05:06:50 AM »
Second Update of  December 2017 (correction)

I made this working because as I said that the previous data was suspicious. Although the interest in "google trends" at the top level of the year, general interest seem as non changed. So I made this second research.

Update of  06 December 2017 (correction)

Jesus 888.000.000 ↑
Bible 524.000.000 ↑
Christ 428.000.000 ↑

Islam 483.000.000  ↓
محمد. 656.000.000  محمد. ↑

Hindu 171.000.000  →

Buddha 170.000.000  ↑

Judaism 63.600.000 ↑

Flat earth  12.200.000 ↑↑

Compare with results in 04 December:

Result December 4 / December 6 (millions) / Increase or decrease the interest rate (+-)

Jesus: 883 > 888  +1 %
Arabic Mohammad: 654 >  656 +0 %
Hindu: 171 >  171 +-0 %
Buddha: 169 > 170 +1 %
Judaism: 63,5 > 63,6 +0 %
Flat earth: 11,1 > 12,2 + 10 %

Result of the statistics:

It seems the increased interest after congress have yet impacted to the statistics in google search.

According to these (corrected) statistics, the number of flat earth believers started to increase again and arrived to 39.985.000 (about 40 millions)
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#### ItsRoundIPromise

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##### Re: Correction o Calculating the number of believers (December 2017 update 2)
« Reply #115 on: December 06, 2017, 05:51:17 AM »
Result of the statisticsnumbers that aren't related in any meaningful way:

There is no result or conclusion that can be drawn from this collection of unrelated numbers.
Oops, looks like you made the same typo from earlier.  I corrected it again for you, but you should be more careful with your proofreading.

#### wise

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##### Re: Correction o Calculating the number of believers (December 2017 update 2)
« Reply #116 on: December 06, 2017, 05:56:32 AM »
Result of the statisticsnumbers that aren't related in any meaningful way:

There is no result or conclusion that can be drawn from this collection of unrelated numbers.
Oops, looks like you made the same typo from earlier.  I corrected it again for you, but you should be more careful with your proofreading.

If it is a joke, not funny. If you are serious, you are funny.
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#### Crutchwater

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #117 on: December 06, 2017, 12:11:02 PM »
I googled flat Earth to find this place, and I don't believe for a second that the Earth is flat.

I will always be Here To Laugh At You.

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#### JackBlack

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##### Re: Correction o Calculating the number of believers (December 2017 update 2)
« Reply #118 on: December 06, 2017, 01:00:15 PM »
According to these (corrected) statistics, the number of flat earth believers started to increase again and arrived to 39.985.000 (about 40 millions)
No it doesn't, and you still have no basis for that number.

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##### Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #119 on: December 11, 2017, 05:09:21 PM »
I googled flat Earth to find this place, and I don't believe for a second that the Earth is flat.