Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)

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Upgrade 12 December 2017: 46,5 millions
« Reply #120 on: December 12, 2017, 05:23:22 AM »
Third Update of  December 2017

Update of  12 December 2017



Jesus 902.000.000 ↑



محمد. 652.000.000  محمد. ↓



Hindu 172.000.000  ↑



Buddha 983.000.000  ↑↑↑



Judaism 61.500.000 ↓



Flat earth  14.200.000 ↑↑

Compare with results in 06 December:

Result December 6 / December 12 (millions) / Increase or decrease the interest rate (+-)

Jesus: 902 > 888  +2 %
Arabic Mohammad: 652 <  656 -1 %
Hindu: 172 >  171 +0 %
Buddha: 983 > 170 +478 %
Judaism: 61,5 < 63,6 -3 %
Flat earth: 14,2 > 12,2 + 16 %

Result of the statistics:

It seems the increased interest after congress have continue to impacted to the statistics in google search.

According to these (corrected) statistics, the number of flat earth believers started to increase again and arrived to 46,5 millions. This is the highest number of the believers.

It seems a combined results shown on buddha. Such as problems may be occurred.




Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #121 on: December 12, 2017, 12:07:26 PM »
Right, you aren't even doing how often it is searched, you are merely seeing how many results there are.
That doesn't indicate if people believe it.

This includes results which point out it is a load of crap.

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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #122 on: December 13, 2017, 02:56:38 AM »
I googled flat Earth to find this place, and I don't believe for a second that the Earth is flat.

Your "statistics" mean nothing!

You googled it because maybe even on a subconscious level, the concept peaked your interest in it. Maybe even to the point where you for a fleeting moment become 'woke' to the reality of a flat earth.

Millions of people every day are googling flat earth. It is clearly something that people are thinking about and pondering.

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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #123 on: December 13, 2017, 03:39:05 AM »
You see?
Flat Earth is belief system. Religion. Otherwise people wouldn't have to compare it with other religions.
On the other hand, Globe Earth is based on facts.

FE is not based on measurements.
GE is based on measurements.

FE map can't be made. No way to show accurate proportions of distances on flat surface.
GE map can be made with accurate proportions on globe surface. On flat surface you can't maintain proportions accurately. Ever tried to cut and stretch ball to flatten it on table?

If the Earth was flat, it would be easy just to divide all distances with same number, let's say 1000 000, and draw it on flat paper to get good map of the whole Earth.
That would accurately show every kilometer in every direction as one millimeter, and all continents and oceans would keep their correct shapes.
Dividing with 10 000 000 would show every 10 kilometers as one millimeter, and so on.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2017, 03:44:49 AM by Macarios »
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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #124 on: December 13, 2017, 03:53:24 AM »
Come on, this is just a statistics aim to determine the number of flat earth believers with compared to the beliefs as religions. We may put any other thing instead of beliefs. The result doesn't change. It doesn't make a sence that compared to the beliefs to be religions or anything else. If you'll get convinced, we may do it by compared to the search term by NASA, will it make the term scientific?



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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #125 on: December 13, 2017, 03:58:11 AM »
Come on, this is just a statistics aim to determine the number of flat earth believers with compared to the beliefs as religions. We may put any other thing instead of beliefs. The result doesn't change. It doesn't make a sence that compared to the beliefs to be religions or anything else. If you'll get convinced, we may do it by compared to the search term by NASA, will it make the term scientific?

Ok, ok, I apologize...
Go on.
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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #126 on: December 13, 2017, 04:22:22 AM »
Ok, no problem. We may agree it as an irony. ;)



Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #127 on: December 13, 2017, 06:13:14 AM »
Come on, this is just a statistics aim to determine the number of flat earth believers with compared to the beliefs as religions. We may put any other thing instead of beliefs. The result doesn't change. It doesn't make a sence that compared to the beliefs to be religions or anything else. If you'll get convinced, we may do it by compared to the search term by NASA, will it make the term scientific?
Nope, won't make it anymore scientific, because the method is flawed at it's core. You're not getting useful data here.

Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #128 on: December 13, 2017, 02:08:52 PM »
Come on, this is just a statistics aim to determine the number of flat earth believers with compared to the beliefs as religions. We may put any other thing instead of beliefs. The result doesn't change. It doesn't make a sence that compared to the beliefs to be religions or anything else. If you'll get convinced, we may do it by compared to the search term by NASA, will it make the term scientific?
And it is a fundamentally flawed method which is unable to do that.
You are just looking at the number of search results.
That does not indicate how many people are interested in it or how many people believe it is true.

How about we do some more shall we:
Star Trek - 105,000,000
Star Wars - 438,000,000
Fairies - 172,000,000
limes - 674,000,000
pineapple - 200,000,000
pineapples - 41,500,000
Axolotl - 3,530,000
Congolese spotted lion - 401,000
Apple - 2,150,000,000
4-40 nut - 522,000

Does this mean more people believe in Star Trek than believe in pineapples?
And more people believe in pineapple, than pineapples?

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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #129 on: December 13, 2017, 02:58:16 PM »
You are comparing 'things' to belief systems. Your argument is flawed and thus nullified
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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #130 on: December 13, 2017, 10:55:45 PM »
You are comparing 'things' to belief systems. Your argument is flawed and thus nullified
Yes, things like Jesus, Buddha, Hindu and Flat Earth.
Why group Judaism in?

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Number of believers 41 millions in February 2018
« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2018, 12:47:20 AM »
Update 11 February 2018

Jesus 882.000.000
محمد. 600.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 179.000.000
Buddha 177.000.000
Judaism 48.000.000
flat earth 13.100.000

Comparing to the last statistics:
Jesus 882 < 902
Arabic Mohammad 600 < 652
Hindu 179 > 172
Buddha 177 > 170 (Last value od buddha doesn't get considered. Perhaps it is caused by a system problem in google)
Judaism 48 < 61,5
flat earth 13,1<14,2

Calculating the number of believers:

2,2b 31 %christ
1,6b muslim 23%
1,1b atheist
1 billions hindu
500 millions budist
14 millions jew
400 millions other religions

total: 6,8 billions.
today: 7,4billions.
increase rate since that statistics: 7,4/6,8= 1,118

Average interest/number of believer rate:

Total interest: 882+600+179+177+48=1.886
Number of believers of these religions= 5.300

Average number of believers / intereset rate: 2,81
Average increase rate: 1,118
Average interest to flat earth: 13.100.000

Real number of flat earth believers: 13.100.000*1,118*2,81=

41.154.698



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Re: Number of believers 41 millions in February 2018
« Reply #132 on: February 11, 2018, 01:20:50 AM »
Update 11 February 2018

Jesus 882.000.000
محمد. 600.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 179.000.000
Buddha 177.000.000
Judaism 48.000.000
flat earth 13.100.000

Comparing to the last statistics:
Jesus 882 < 902
Arabic Mohammad 600 < 652
Hindu 179 > 172
Buddha 177 > 170 (Last value od buddha doesn't get considered. Perhaps it is caused by a system problem in google)
Judaism 48 < 61,5
flat earth 13,1<14,2

Calculating the number of believers:

2,2b 31 %christ
1,6b muslim 23%
1,1b atheist
1 billions hindu
500 millions budist
14 millions jew
400 millions other religions

total: 6,8 billions.
today: 7,4billions.
increase rate since that statistics: 7,4/6,8= 1,118

Average interest/number of believer rate:

Total interest: 882+600+179+177+48=1.886
Number of believers of these religions= 5.300

Average number of believers / intereset rate: 2,81
Average increase rate: 1,118
Average interest to flat earth: 13.100.000

Real number of flat earth believers: 13.100.000*1,118*2,81=

41.154.698

This confirms Flat Earth to be just a belief system.
If we combine this with list of all things that have to be denied for Flat Earth to be believed in, it gives us deeper insight.
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Re: Number of believers 41 millions in February 2018
« Reply #133 on: February 11, 2018, 09:54:24 PM »
Update 11 February 2018

Jesus 882.000.000
محمد. 600.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 179.000.000
Buddha 177.000.000
Judaism 48.000.000
flat earth 13.100.000

Comparing to the last statistics:
Jesus 882 < 902
Arabic Mohammad 600 < 652
Hindu 179 > 172
Buddha 177 > 170 (Last value od buddha doesn't get considered. Perhaps it is caused by a system problem in google)
Judaism 48 < 61,5
flat earth 13,1<14,2

Calculating the number of believers:

2,2b 31 %christ
1,6b muslim 23%
1,1b atheist
1 billions hindu
500 millions budist
14 millions jew
400 millions other religions

total: 6,8 billions.
today: 7,4billions.
increase rate since that statistics: 7,4/6,8= 1,118

Average interest/number of believer rate:

Total interest: 882+600+179+177+48=1.886
Number of believers of these religions= 5.300

Average number of believers / intereset rate: 2,81
Average increase rate: 1,118
Average interest to flat earth: 13.100.000

Real number of flat earth believers: 13.100.000*1,118*2,81=

41.154.698

This confirms Flat Earth to be just a belief system.
If we combine this with list of all things that have to be denied for Flat Earth to be believed in, it gives us deeper insight.

I may add there NASA; so will it be the comfirmation of the NASA's to be a belief system in your childish mind?



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Re: Number of believers 41 millions in February 2018
« Reply #134 on: February 11, 2018, 11:41:35 PM »
Update 11 February 2018

Jesus 882.000.000
محمد. 600.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 179.000.000
Buddha 177.000.000
Judaism 48.000.000
flat earth 13.100.000

Comparing to the last statistics:
Jesus 882 < 902
Arabic Mohammad 600 < 652
Hindu 179 > 172
Buddha 177 > 170 (Last value od buddha doesn't get considered. Perhaps it is caused by a system problem in google)
Judaism 48 < 61,5
flat earth 13,1<14,2

Calculating the number of believers:

2,2b 31 %christ
1,6b muslim 23%
1,1b atheist
1 billions hindu
500 millions budist
14 millions jew
400 millions other religions

total: 6,8 billions.
today: 7,4billions.
increase rate since that statistics: 7,4/6,8= 1,118

Average interest/number of believer rate:

Total interest: 882+600+179+177+48=1.886
Number of believers of these religions= 5.300

Average number of believers / intereset rate: 2,81
Average increase rate: 1,118
Average interest to flat earth: 13.100.000

Real number of flat earth believers: 13.100.000*1,118*2,81=

41.154.698

This confirms Flat Earth to be just a belief system.
If we combine this with list of all things that have to be denied for Flat Earth to be believed in, it gives us deeper insight.

I may add there NASA; so will it be the comfirmation of the NASA's to be a belief system in your childish mind?

Adding NASA to the list of denial just additionally emhasizes the point.
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Re: Number of believers 41 millions in February 2018
« Reply #135 on: February 12, 2018, 12:42:49 AM »
Update 11 February 2018

Jesus 882.000.000
محمد. 600.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 179.000.000
Buddha 177.000.000
Judaism 48.000.000
flat earth 13.100.000

Comparing to the last statistics:
Jesus 882 < 902
Arabic Mohammad 600 < 652
Hindu 179 > 172
Buddha 177 > 170 (Last value od buddha doesn't get considered. Perhaps it is caused by a system problem in google)
Judaism 48 < 61,5
flat earth 13,1<14,2

Calculating the number of believers:

2,2b 31 %christ
1,6b muslim 23%
1,1b atheist
1 billions hindu
500 millions budist
14 millions jew
400 millions other religions

total: 6,8 billions.
today: 7,4billions.
increase rate since that statistics: 7,4/6,8= 1,118

Average interest/number of believer rate:

Total interest: 882+600+179+177+48=1.886
Number of believers of these religions= 5.300

Average number of believers / intereset rate: 2,81
Average increase rate: 1,118
Average interest to flat earth: 13.100.000

Real number of flat earth believers: 13.100.000*1,118*2,81=

41.154.698

This confirms Flat Earth to be just a belief system.
If we combine this with list of all things that have to be denied for Flat Earth to be believed in, it gives us deeper insight.

I may add there NASA; so will it be the comfirmation of the NASA's to be a belief system in your childish mind?

Adding NASA to the list of denial just additionally emhasizes the point.

If you agree NASA as a belief, so surely.



Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #136 on: February 17, 2018, 04:02:25 PM »
It's a statistic allright but it's a long long stretch to imagine the number of viewings/visits bears any relationship to the total of FE believers.

I'd bet a lot of these viewings are (1) repeat visits by the same people, and (2) a very substantial proportion - probably a majority - of these visits are people who a merely curious, who want to see if there are literate people who seriously believe in a flat earth and why kind of arguments & evidence they have, or (3) also a very substantial proportion, visits from people who want a good laugh at Flat Earthers.

My own estimate is that the number of true believers in a Flat Earth who are also members of this forum number in the few hundreds, possibly less than 300 (the other members like to argue for a Round Earth).  Outside this forum the "believers" probably include people who are not literate enough to handle a computer or are otherwise so benighted that you'd be embarrassed to count them as teammates.

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Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2018, 84 millions)
« Reply #137 on: April 03, 2018, 12:37:59 AM »
Update April 3, 2018

Jesus 256.000.000
محمد. 159.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 179.000.000
buddha 45.700.000
Judaism 23.200.000
flat earth 8.280.000
NASA 74.900.000

It is caused by maybe an update, so that the general searching rates are decreased. So that, we need another calculations for define the number of search/number of belief relevance.

Total search: 746.080.000
Total population: 7.615.000.000

Populatin /search number: 7.615/746= 10.2 people per search.

Number of flat earth believers: 8.280.000 x 10,2 = 84.456.000

It seems about 2 times more than the number in February.

This is caused by, either really the number of believers are increased, and/or the calculation method is changed.

Round2: Comparing believers of NASA and FE.

We may compare nasa and the flat earth society for comparing the people's interest:

Search results of:

NASA: 74.900.000
Flat earth society: 8.810.000 (decreased only 10.000. it means, almost everyone search the flat earth society who has searched the flat earth)

Total number: 83.710.000

NASA: 74.900/83.710= 89%
Flat earth society: 8.810/83.710= 11%

NASA/Flat Earth Society= 74.900/8.810= 8,5

Total number of NASA and FE believers

Total number of FE believers: 84.456.000
Total number of NASA believers: 84.456.000 * 8,5 = 717.876.000

People interest either NASA or FE theory: 802.332.000
People do not interest neither NASA nor FE theory: 6.812.668.000

If we pre agree, every man "have to believe either NASA, or FE theory", we may find out the increased values.

INCREASED VALUES FOR NASA AND THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY

Real believers of:

NASA: 717.876.000
Flat earth Society: 84.456.000
Total believers of either NASA of FE society: 802.332.000

Total human population of the world: 7.615.000.000

NASA believers (irresolutes are divided): 6.813.421.000
The Flat Earth Society believers: (irresolutes are divided): 801.579.000



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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #138 on: April 03, 2018, 07:01:56 AM »
Success graph of the flat earth society against NASA, considering the numbers in the google trends

Google trends shows us the general tendency of the people.

It doesn't publish the tendency by years, but we may calculate it by estimate as follow:

Comparing the trends for "last 5 year", "last year", "last 3 months", "last month" and "last week".

NASA/FE interests in:

Last 5 years: 16/1=16



Last 1 year: 18/2 = 9



Last day: 36/6 = 6



Now. We see the general tendency of the Flat earth is arrived at 1/6. It was about 1/7 in 3 months ago. In 3 months, the interest to the FE theory increased about 17%.

Now. Lets try to draw a graph of show us general increase rate of the flat earth belief.

For this, we must extract the recent values from old ones. We'll not examine it and use basic methods:


Today:6
Last year: 9
So>> 1 year ago: 12

1 year ago: 12
Last 5 years: 16
So>> 5 years ago: 20 (year 2013)

So>> 4 years ago: 18 (year 2014)
So>> 3 years ago: 16 (year 2015)
So>> 2 years ago: 14 (year 2016)
So>> 1 year ago : 12 (year 2017)

Now we may draw the graph as follow:



We may define the point of intersection as an estimate as follow (the 1 value of the graph)

This can be taken as a 2nd parabol by considering start, one of middle and the end points:

(2013; 0,05)
(2015; 0,0625)
(2018; 0,1818)

So;

( ?.. ; 1,00)

Y= aX˛+ BX+c

2013= a(0,05)˛+b(0,05)+C
2015=a(0,0625)˛+b(0,0625)+C
2018=a(0,1818)˛+b(0,1818)+C



In 2025, number of believers become equal to infidels of NASA. This is later from my estimation was about 2020-2021. Sad. We should do something to improve the process.



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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #139 on: April 03, 2018, 07:06:27 AM »
Search does not equal belief.

Just look at your "believers" forum!
Yes, you

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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #140 on: April 03, 2018, 07:27:28 AM »
Search does not equal belief.

Just look at your "believers" forum!
We consider you as frequent member to be a flatearth sympathizer...those are also practical in spreading the message !
Keep up the good work Htlay <-- if you pronounce that a certain way it sounds like that guy from Germany  ;D

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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #141 on: April 03, 2018, 02:38:07 PM »
Search does not equal belief.

Just look at your "believers" forum!
We consider you as frequent member to be a flatearth sympathizer...those are also practical in spreading the message !
Yes, those are also practical in spreading the message that the flat earth is a recent quite ridiculous invention!

And, just look what you find in that believers section:
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The new radical chronology of history:
  • each and every event assumed to have taken place prior to 1780 AD has been totally forged/invented/falsified.
  • History is just some 365 years old (I started with a figure of 500 years, and slowly reduced the period to 364-365 years).
  • Christ was crucified at Constantinople some 260 years ago, and
  • the falsification of each and every known religious text begun soon after, in the period 1775-1790 AD.
  • The Deluge occurred some 310 years ago; while the dinosaurs were created a few decades earlier,
  • after Adam and Eve joined the one million pairs of humans which already were living beyond the Garden of Eden.
Read more ;) enlightening information ;) in: Sandokhan, Advanced Flat Earth Theory « on: July 14, 2009, 11:59:41 PM »
Even Lord Wilmore, Vice President makes this interesting comment:
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Whilst I greatly admire your research and the wealth of information you have accumulated, I do perhaps think that calling this a 'new FAQ' is perhaps unnecessarily controversial. I would certainly support it as an alternative theory, but I do think that presenting it as the de facto new FAQ is perhaps as wise. The information is of great value (I am especially interested in the idea of the Antichone), but it is important that we respect the different viewpoints many FE'ers hold.
And the Antichone is ;D Complete Nonsense ;D and >:(  Angry Ranting >:(.

If you need some light entertainment try, Results of my study

And you sound so ridiculous with your claims that you must turn hordes away from the idea of a Pancake Planet.

Keep up the good work!

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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #142 on: April 03, 2018, 05:03:53 PM »

Keep up the good work Htlay <-- if you pronounce that a certain way it sounds like that guy from Germany  ;D



Well, you used  ;D , so  ::) ?    :)



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Calculating the number of believers (as of last April 2018, 78 millions)
« Reply #143 on: April 24, 2018, 03:13:58 AM »
Update April 24, 2018
Jesus 273.000.000
محمد. 177.000.000  محمد.
Hindu 57.900.000
buddha 51.300.000
Judaism 23.800.000
flat earth 7.540.000

Number of believers:

Christian 2.300.000.000
islam 1.800.000.000
Hindu 900.000.000
flat earth ?

Comparing christianity:

7.540/273.000 *2.300.000.000= 63.523.000

Comparing islam:

7.540/177.000*1.800.000.000= 76.677.000

Comparing hinduism:

7.540/57.900 *900.000.000= 117.200.000

Considered 3 religion total number: 5.000.000.000

Calculating the average number of flat earth believers:

(2,3/5)*63.523.000 + (1,8/5)*76.667.000 + (0,9/5)*117.200.000 = 77.917.000

It was 84 millions in 3th April.

As a result;

Number of believers are decreased to 78 millions from 84 millions in 21 days. We should focus on the reasons of this event.



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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #144 on: April 24, 2018, 03:51:06 AM »
Maybe they went out and did some experimenting on their own? Could that be it?

Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #145 on: April 24, 2018, 07:17:03 AM »
This drop is a big concern for me.  I think we need to get down to the facts immediately.  We won't know for sure why people are straying away from flat earth until we interview each person one by one.  Brotherhood of the dome, you're doing excellent work.  I need you to interview 1,000 people and compare the number of deceived round earth believers with those who know the truth.  Please return your findings to this forum immediately.  We will simply multiply your results by 7.6 million to get the total number of flat earth believers. 

Thanks brotherhood. 

Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #146 on: April 24, 2018, 08:57:14 AM »
Keep up the good work Htlay <-- if you pronounce that a certain way it sounds like that guy from Germany  ;D
If you pronounce "dutchy" a certain way it sounds like that guy from Germany.  ::)
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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #147 on: April 24, 2018, 09:06:23 AM »
To me it sounds more like the guy from Italy.

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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #148 on: April 24, 2018, 01:18:48 PM »
Maybe they went out and did some experimenting on their own? Could that be it?

So in last 1 year, about 40 millions people have made experiments on their own and decided the flat is earth, true?



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Re: Calculating the number of believers (as of April 2017, 30 millions)
« Reply #149 on: April 24, 2018, 01:39:12 PM »
I don't know. Maybe?