Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model

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Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« on: April 04, 2017, 09:41:13 AM »
Explain the origin of the magnetic fields around the earth using flat earth model.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 12:36:05 AM by Yashas »

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sandokhan

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 10:52:42 AM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65699.0

Explain, not link.
If you believe in it enough then you'll write it out again.

Here's an alternate challenge: try and do it in, say, two paragraphs. Just for an overview.
Only the ignorant choose to ignore opposing views.
Fight for your belief, don't run away.
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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 03:20:31 PM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65699.0
I take it you don't understand what explain means, and why it is in debate?

He wants you to explain it here, in a place where people are free to point out just how full of shit it is, with you actually doing work, rather than just linking to crap, which is just another link and copied and pasted crap.

Are you capable of having your own thoughts?

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2017, 03:43:41 PM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65699.0
OK, pages and pages of baseless Sandokhanian Conjecture. So what's new.

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laevorotatory
ˌadjective: CHEMISTRY (of a compound) having the property of rotating the plane of a polarized light ray to the left, i.e. anticlockwise facing the oncoming radiation.

So you claim that "laevorotatory subquarks" are rotating the plane of a polarized light ray to the left.

That sounds more like Sandokhanian Gobbledegook to me.

Get your material published somewhere and let some real experts scrutinise it! I dare you!
STEPHEN M. PHILLIPS seems to manage. I guess you are scared to let the real world see your fantasies!

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Yashas

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2017, 08:04:15 PM »
Convince yourself that the official RE theory re: geomagnetism is wrong:

http://davidpratt.info/inner1.htm#s5

The RE theory is the most widely accepted theory. It explains the existence of tectonic plates, it explains how earthquakes happen, it explain how volcanos work, it explains why contenients drift apart, etc.

Now, the correct FE magnetricity theory.

MAGNETRICITY = ETHER MAGNETISM
ETHER? WHAT THE HELL?

Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley. The experiment is called Michealson-Morley experiment.

It is absolutely irrelevant to the topic. You are just throwing in random words. You don't even know what that means.

Electricity = Magnetism - both consist of subquark flow, one in a conductor, the other in space

This flow is made up of TWO currents, of opposing spin, traveling in double torsion fashion: the dextrorotatory subquarks and the laevorotatory subquarks.

Subquarks is a deprecated term in physics. We use Preons nowadays. However, your text is rubbish. Quarks have to do with particle physics and you are trying to explain magnetic fields using it in the macroscopic scale.


The recent discovery of magnetic monopoles:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1615813#msg1615813

Magnetic monopoles = subquarks

https://web.archive.org/web/20120303052100/http://smphillips.8m.com/pdfs/ESP_of_Quarks.pdf (Dr. Stephen Phillips, Cambridge, UCLA)

Magnetic monopoles do NOT exist.

Here is a crash course on magnetic monopoles/dipoles: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/173818/what-do-we-mean-with-magnetic-monopole-and-dipole/292994#292994

PRECISE, REAL TIME, PHOTOGRAPHS OF ELECTRICAL CURRENTS, THE DOUBLE VORTEX/SPIN/STRINGS AT WORK:









SPINTRONICS, secret world of magnets, the most thorough work on the double helix theory of the magnetic field (double helix of the telluric currents):

https://freeenergycommunity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/the-secret-world-of-magnets-spintronics-2006-howard-johnson.pdf

HERE IS HOW THE FLOW OF SUBQUARKS OCCURS IN A MAGNET:



You have hit the ceiling of bullshit.

Not only North-Center-South laevorotatory subquarks, but ALSO a South-Center-North flow of dextrorotatory subquarks/magnetic monopoles.



Interesting. Now we have chemistry here. A levorotatory molecule is an optically active molecule which rotates plane-polarized light to the left and a dextrorotatory molecule is an optically active molecule which rotates the plane polarized light tot he right. I have no idea what that has got to do here.

Absolute proof of the existence of subquarks:


http://web.archive.org/web/20150424110749/http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf (Dr. Stephen Phillips, UCLA, Cambridge)


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1401101#msg1401101 (what baryons, mesons, quarks, subquarks look like)

This is what the graviton/magnetic monopole looks like, both spins:



HYDROGEN ATOM: 18 SUBQUARKS - 9 LAEVOROTATORY AND 9 DEXTROROTATORY subquarks

A proton is made up of NINE laevorotatory subquarks - an electron is actually comprised of NINE dextrorotatory subquarks (called now preons).

However, modern science has mistakenly named a SINGLE dextrorotatory subquark as an electron and has ascribed THE TOTAL charge of the NINE corresponding subquarks as the total negative charge of a single electron, thus confusing the whole matter.


TELLURIC CURRENTS are represented by double torsion waves of BOTH laevorotatory (antigravity) and dextrorotatory (terrestrial gravity) subquarks.


NOW WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW ELECTRICITY FLOWS:

An electric current brought to bear upon the subquarks checks their proper motions, i.e., renders them slower; the subquarks exposed to it arrange themselves in parallel lines, and in each line the heart-shaped depression receives the flow, which passes out through the apex into the depression of the next, and so on. The subquarks always set themselves to the current.  In all the diagrams the heart-shaped body, exaggerated to show the depression caused by the inflow and the point caused by the outflow, is a single subquark.




Let us now back to the Nipher experiments.

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.


http://www.rexresearch.com/nipher/nipher1.htm

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher. Dr. Francis Nipher conducted extensive experiments during 1918, on a modified Cavendish experiment. He reproduced the classical arrangements for the experiment, where gravitational attraction could be measured between free-swinging masses, and a large fixed central mass. Dr. Nipher modified the Cavendish experiment by applying a large electrical field to the large central mass, which was sheilded inside a Faraday cage. When electrostatic charge was applied to the large fixed mass, the free-swinging masses exhibited a reduced attraction to the central mass, when the central mass was only slightly charged. As the electric field strength was increased, there arose a voltage threshold which resulted in no attraction at all between the fixed mass and the free-swinging masses. Increasing the potential applied to the central mass beyond that threshold, resulted in the free-swinging masses being repelled (!) from the fixed central mass. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.



Electricity is absolutely linked to terrestrial gravity.

Since subquarks = magnetic monopoles, we can see the beautiful and superb link between the Biefeld-Brown effect and the DePalma/Kozyrev/Allais effects:

In one case (Biefeld-Brown effect, performed in vacuum) the very strong electrical field will act as an attractor to telluric/subquark strings to form a plasma tornado around the capacitor, thus rendering it opaque to the usual dextrorotatory strings which do cause terrestrial gravity.

In the other, by torsion, in the DePalma experiment, the subquarks strings will also form a tornado around the ball/object thus producing the noted/recorded antigravitational effects.



The Flat Earth's magnetic field is produced by the two heavenly bodies which cause the solar and the lunar eclipses, and which emit the magnetic monopoles:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1676115#msg1676115

emit magnetic monopoles? LOL

You just spit in a bunch of random words to make up nonsense.

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sandokhan

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2017, 09:33:02 PM »
You are a naive RE who simply hasn't done his homework at all.

There is no such thing as the dynamo RE theory of geomagnetism, please read:

http://davidpratt.info/inner1.htm#s5


Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley. The experiment is called Michealson-Morley experiment.

Obviously, you haven't even graduated from high school.

Here are some proper references on the MM experiment:

https://web.archive.org/web/20101128012239/http://spinbitz.net/anpheon.org/html/AnpheonIntro2003.htm (one of the very best references on the subject; it explains the colossal errors committed by Michelson and Morley, especially the fact that they did not understand the concept of a DYNAMICAL ETHER)

The Michelson-Morley experiment detected the speed of the ether drift: 5-8 km/s.

The Dayton Miller experiment detected a similar speed.

Here is the proper reference on the MM experiment:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1780340#msg1780340


Magnetic monopoles do NOT exist.

Are you scientifically illiterate as well?

Magnetic monopoles discovered for the first time:

http://www.london-nano.com/research-and-facilities/highlight/magnetic-monopoles-discovered-by-lcn-scientists
http://www.london-nano.com/research-and-facilities/highlight/%E2%80%98magnetricity%E2%80%99-observed-and-measured-for-the-first-time
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2014/jan/30/magnetic-monopoles-seen-in-the-lab


Your lousy reference is totally useless as it has no connection to the latest scientific developments on the subject.


You just spit in a bunch of random words to make up nonsense.

The hallmark of my messages are precise proofs, this is what my messages are famous for.

Given that the gaps in the periodic table represented by these anticipated un-
stable elements were known to Besant & Leadbeater, how can we be sure that
their descriptions were based upon real  objects and were not fabricated  ac-
cording  to their expectations?  Knowing which  groups of  the periodic  table
these  undiscovered  elements belong  to could  have  enabled them  to  deduce
what shape their atoms ought to have, having decided upon a rule to link atom-
ic shapes to groups. But the values of  the atomic weights of  these elements
were unknown to science at the time when Besant and Leadbeater published
observations of them and yet the "number weights" (defined shortly) that they
calculated for  these  elements  agree with  their  chemical atomic  weights  to
within one unit. It is highly implausible that this measure of agreement could
have  come about by  chance in  every case. Furthermore, analysis (Phillips,
1994) of the particles reported to have been observed in the supposed atoms of
these elements undiscovered by science at the time reveals such a high degree
of agreement with the theory presented in this paper to explain micro-psi ob-
servations of atoms that neither deliberate fabrication nor hallucinations influ-
enced by knowledge of the gaps in the periodic table are realistic explanations
of these elements being examined before their scientific discovery.  These two
considerations strongly suggest that the descriptions by Besant and Leadbeat-
er of the supposed atoms of these elements must have been based upon physi-
cal objects, for there is simply no more plausible alternative that can explain
such a measure of agreement.


The fact that elements in the same subgroup of a group of the periodic table do not always
occur in the same subgroup of the micro-psi  version of this table is inconsis-
tent with what one would expect if  Besant and Leadbeater  had been merely
guided by their knowledge of chemistry to fabricate the correlation.  Secondly,
how could hallucinations, whose cause was located entirely inside their brains
and not outside amongst the trillions of atoms in all the chemicals they exam-
ined, generate UPA populations in MPAs that always turned out to be about 18
times the correct atomic weights of their elements?  This is true, remarkable,
even for elements like francium and astatine, whose atomic weights must have
been unknown to Besant and Leadbeater because science discovered them in,
respectively,  1939  and  1940,  about seven years  after the deaths of  the two
Theosophists.  How, if  MPAs  are not atoms, could they have anticipated  in
1908 - five years before scientists suspected the existence of isotopes - the
fact that an element such as neon could have more than one type of  atom, an
MPA, moreover, whose calculated number weight of 22.33 is consistent with
their having detected with micro-psi the neon-22 nuclide before the physicist
J. J. Thomson discovered it in  1913? One must turn to particle physics for an-
swers.



This paper has presented evidence (summarized in Table 3) of how facts of
nuclear and particle physics are consistent with purported psychic descriptions
of subatomic particles.  It is because Besant and Leadbeater finished their ob-
servations many years before pertinent scientific knowledge became available
that their work cannot be rejected  as fraudulent once this consistency is ac-
cepted.  Nor can critics plausible interpret their observations as precognitive
visions of future ideas and discoveries of  physics.  If  this had been the case, Besant and Leadbeater might reasonably have been expected to describe atoms
according to the Rutherford-Bohr model. The nuclear model of the atom was
formulated by Rutherford in 1911, two years after they concluded their main
investigation of MPAs. Yet none of its features can be found in their publica-
tions. Instead of being atoms, as would be expected if micro-psi faculty were
actually precognition, MPAs are more exotic objects which, as Figure 5 shows,
have  compositions and  UPA  populations indicating  that  they consist of  the
constituent quarks and subquarks or two atomic nuclei of  an element.  This
makes  them more  akin  to what  nuclear physicists  call  "compound nuclei,"
which are formed in high-energy physics laboratories by the collision and brief
fusion  of  two  very  fast-moving  nuclei. Moreover, precognition would  not
have led Besant and Leadbeater to portray some chemical molecules such as
methane and benzene in a way that conflicts with chemistry.  If they had used
merely  precognition, they  would never have observed four MPAs for which
atomic theory can provide no corresponding element; they would have record-
ed only MPAs of known elements.

The fact that most of their descriptions of MPAs were  published  several  years  before  physicists even suspected  that atoms had nuclei excludes the possibility  of their fraudulent use of scientific knowledge about the composition of nuclei in terms of protons, neutrons and
mass numbers because no such information existed then, Chadwick discover-
ing  the  neutron  in  1932, twenty-four years  after  the first  edition  of  Occult
Chemistry  appeared.  No normal or alternative paranormal explanation  of the
correlation between modern physics and their ostensible 100-year old obser-
vations  of  subatomic  particles appears  to exist  other  than that  Besant  and
Leadbeater genuinely described aspects of the microscopic world by means of
ESP, albeit one disturbed by the act of paranormal observation.



https://web.archive.org/web/20120128042636/http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf


Subquarks is a deprecated term in physics. We use Preons nowadays.

You don't even know the details about the Michelson-Morley experiment: subquarks and preons are way beyond your level.


Preons are THE FRACTIONAL SUBDIVISIONS OF AN ELECTRON.

Subquarks are THE FRACTIONAL SUBDIVISIONS OF A QUARK.


Chris Hill, theorist at Fermilab, indicated the view in “New Scientist” | 11 May 1996 | page 29 | “It would suggest that whatever lies inside the quarks is incredibly tightly bound, in a way that theory can’t yet accommodate.”


http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/44784


http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1998/press.html

https://www.llnl.gov/str/Laughlin.html (fractional quantum effect)


Preon-quarkel structure of the electronS:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=quarter-electrons-may-enable-quantum-computer


Every science student is taught that the indivisible unit of charge is that of the electron. But 2 years ago, scientists found that charge sometimes shatters into "quasi-particles" that have one-third the fundamental charge. And in this week's issue of Nature, researchers announce they have spotted one-fifth-charge quasi-particles--a decisive finding suggesting that its time to change any physics textbooks still claiming that electron charge is indivisible.

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/1999/05/19-01.html



http://prd.aps.org/abstract/PRD/v55/i5/pR2521_1

See also (subquark detected) https://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/9608279.pdf


http://web.ihep.su/library/pubs/tconf99/ps/teraz.pdf

It can be taken as an exciting and already intriguing historical
discovery of the substructure of quarks (and leptons), which has been long predicted, or as the first evidence for the composite model of quarks (and leptons), which has been long proposed since the middle of 1970’s [3, 4, 5, 6, 7]. It may dramatically change not only the so-called “common sense” in physics or science but also that in philosophy, which often states that quarks (and leptons) are the smallest and most fundamental forms (or particles) of matter in the “mother nature”.



As for the ether, the Sagnac effect proves its existence immediately:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1886174#msg1886174


« Last Edit: April 04, 2017, 09:38:49 PM by sandokhan »

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2017, 10:22:01 PM »
You are a naive RE who simply hasn't done his homework at all.

There is no such thing as the dynamo RE theory of geomagnetism, please read:

http://davidpratt.info/inner1.htm#s5


Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley. The experiment is called Michealson-Morley experiment.

Obviously, you haven't even graduated from high school.

Here are some proper references on the MM experiment:

https://web.archive.org/web/20101128012239/http://spinbitz.net/anpheon.org/html/AnpheonIntro2003.htm (one of the very best references on the subject; it explains the colossal errors committed by Michelson and Morley, especially the fact that they did not understand the concept of a DYNAMICAL ETHER)

The Michelson-Morley experiment detected the speed of the ether drift: 5-8 km/s.

The Dayton Miller experiment detected a similar speed.

Here is the proper reference on the MM experiment:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1780340#msg1780340


Magnetic monopoles do NOT exist.

Are you scientifically illiterate as well?

Magnetic monopoles discovered for the first time:

http://www.london-nano.com/research-and-facilities/highlight/magnetic-monopoles-discovered-by-lcn-scientists
http://www.london-nano.com/research-and-facilities/highlight/%E2%80%98magnetricity%E2%80%99-observed-and-measured-for-the-first-time
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2014/jan/30/magnetic-monopoles-seen-in-the-lab


Your lousy reference is totally useless as it has no connection to the latest scientific developments on the subject.


You just spit in a bunch of random words to make up nonsense.

The hallmark of my messages are precise proofs, this is what my messages are famous for.

Given that the gaps in the periodic table represented by these anticipated un-
stable elements were known to Besant & Leadbeater, how can we be sure that
their descriptions were based upon real  objects and were not fabricated  ac-
cording  to their expectations?  Knowing which  groups of  the periodic  table
these  undiscovered  elements belong  to could  have  enabled them  to  deduce
what shape their atoms ought to have, having decided upon a rule to link atom-
ic shapes to groups. But the values of  the atomic weights of  these elements
were unknown to science at the time when Besant and Leadbeater published
observations of them and yet the "number weights" (defined shortly) that they
calculated for  these  elements  agree with  their  chemical atomic  weights  to
within one unit. It is highly implausible that this measure of agreement could
have  come about by  chance in  every case. Furthermore, analysis (Phillips,
1994) of the particles reported to have been observed in the supposed atoms of
these elements undiscovered by science at the time reveals such a high degree
of agreement with the theory presented in this paper to explain micro-psi ob-
servations of atoms that neither deliberate fabrication nor hallucinations influ-
enced by knowledge of the gaps in the periodic table are realistic explanations
of these elements being examined before their scientific discovery.  These two
considerations strongly suggest that the descriptions by Besant and Leadbeat-
er of the supposed atoms of these elements must have been based upon physi-
cal objects, for there is simply no more plausible alternative that can explain
such a measure of agreement.


The fact that elements in the same subgroup of a group of the periodic table do not always
occur in the same subgroup of the micro-psi  version of this table is inconsis-
tent with what one would expect if  Besant and Leadbeater  had been merely
guided by their knowledge of chemistry to fabricate the correlation.  Secondly,
how could hallucinations, whose cause was located entirely inside their brains
and not outside amongst the trillions of atoms in all the chemicals they exam-
ined, generate UPA populations in MPAs that always turned out to be about 18
times the correct atomic weights of their elements?  This is true, remarkable,
even for elements like francium and astatine, whose atomic weights must have
been unknown to Besant and Leadbeater because science discovered them in,
respectively,  1939  and  1940,  about seven years  after the deaths of  the two
Theosophists.  How, if  MPAs  are not atoms, could they have anticipated  in
1908 - five years before scientists suspected the existence of isotopes - the
fact that an element such as neon could have more than one type of  atom, an
MPA, moreover, whose calculated number weight of 22.33 is consistent with
their having detected with micro-psi the neon-22 nuclide before the physicist
J. J. Thomson discovered it in  1913? One must turn to particle physics for an-
swers.



This paper has presented evidence (summarized in Table 3) of how facts of
nuclear and particle physics are consistent with purported psychic descriptions
of subatomic particles.  It is because Besant and Leadbeater finished their ob-
servations many years before pertinent scientific knowledge became available
that their work cannot be rejected  as fraudulent once this consistency is ac-
cepted.  Nor can critics plausible interpret their observations as precognitive
visions of future ideas and discoveries of  physics.  If  this had been the case, Besant and Leadbeater might reasonably have been expected to describe atoms
according to the Rutherford-Bohr model. The nuclear model of the atom was
formulated by Rutherford in 1911, two years after they concluded their main
investigation of MPAs. Yet none of its features can be found in their publica-
tions. Instead of being atoms, as would be expected if micro-psi faculty were
actually precognition, MPAs are more exotic objects which, as Figure 5 shows,
have  compositions and  UPA  populations indicating  that  they consist of  the
constituent quarks and subquarks or two atomic nuclei of  an element.  This
makes  them more  akin  to what  nuclear physicists  call  "compound nuclei,"
which are formed in high-energy physics laboratories by the collision and brief
fusion  of  two  very  fast-moving  nuclei. Moreover, precognition would  not
have led Besant and Leadbeater to portray some chemical molecules such as
methane and benzene in a way that conflicts with chemistry.  If they had used
merely  precognition, they  would never have observed four MPAs for which
atomic theory can provide no corresponding element; they would have record-
ed only MPAs of known elements.

The fact that most of their descriptions of MPAs were  published  several  years  before  physicists even suspected  that atoms had nuclei excludes the possibility  of their fraudulent use of scientific knowledge about the composition of nuclei in terms of protons, neutrons and
mass numbers because no such information existed then, Chadwick discover-
ing  the  neutron  in  1932, twenty-four years  after  the first  edition  of  Occult
Chemistry  appeared.  No normal or alternative paranormal explanation  of the
correlation between modern physics and their ostensible 100-year old obser-
vations  of  subatomic  particles appears  to exist  other  than that  Besant  and
Leadbeater genuinely described aspects of the microscopic world by means of
ESP, albeit one disturbed by the act of paranormal observation.



https://web.archive.org/web/20120128042636/http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf


Subquarks is a deprecated term in physics. We use Preons nowadays.

You don't even know the details about the Michelson-Morley experiment: subquarks and preons are way beyond your level.


Preons are THE FRACTIONAL SUBDIVISIONS OF AN ELECTRON.

Subquarks are THE FRACTIONAL SUBDIVISIONS OF A QUARK.


Chris Hill, theorist at Fermilab, indicated the view in “New Scientist” | 11 May 1996 | page 29 | “It would suggest that whatever lies inside the quarks is incredibly tightly bound, in a way that theory can’t yet accommodate.”


http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/44784


http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1998/press.html

https://www.llnl.gov/str/Laughlin.html (fractional quantum effect)


Preon-quarkel structure of the electronS:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=quarter-electrons-may-enable-quantum-computer


Every science student is taught that the indivisible unit of charge is that of the electron. But 2 years ago, scientists found that charge sometimes shatters into "quasi-particles" that have one-third the fundamental charge. And in this week's issue of Nature, researchers announce they have spotted one-fifth-charge quasi-particles--a decisive finding suggesting that its time to change any physics textbooks still claiming that electron charge is indivisible.

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/1999/05/19-01.html



http://prd.aps.org/abstract/PRD/v55/i5/pR2521_1

See also (subquark detected) https://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/9608279.pdf


http://web.ihep.su/library/pubs/tconf99/ps/teraz.pdf

It can be taken as an exciting and already intriguing historical
discovery of the substructure of quarks (and leptons), which has been long predicted, or as the first evidence for the composite model of quarks (and leptons), which has been long proposed since the middle of 1970’s [3, 4, 5, 6, 7]. It may dramatically change not only the so-called “common sense” in physics or science but also that in philosophy, which often states that quarks (and leptons) are the smallest and most fundamental forms (or particles) of matter in the “mother nature”.



As for the ether, the Sagnac effect proves its existence immediately:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1886174#msg1886174

This is all very impressive, but it doesn't show that you understand it - just that you know big words.
It is often said that if you understand a concept intimately, you can explain it to someone like they are a six-year-old.

Are you capable of resuming all this in a paragraph or two of simple English?
Only the ignorant choose to ignore opposing views.
Fight for your belief, don't run away.
It's the only way anyone can take you seriously.

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2017, 11:15:59 PM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65699.0
I take it you don't understand what explain means, and why it is in debate?

He wants you to explain it here, in a place where people are free to point out just how full of shit it is, with you actually doing work, rather than just linking to crap, which is just another link and copied and pasted crap.

Are you capable of having your own thoughts?

I wonder if you know the meaning of being cordial.  I also wonder if you sit in your mum's basement thinking of ways to insult people.  sandokhan does a lot of research and provides you with citations, and then another noob comes in and asks the same questions, expecting different results, I suppose.

If you want answers, at least treat people like they are people, not your go-to source of entertainment.  If you don't want an answer, then don't post.  Simple as that, 

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2017, 11:28:00 PM »
Subquarks = magnetic monopoles = gravitons

Gravitons are not electrically neutral.

Modern science cannot explain how an atom of iron (or nickel) constantly emits gravitons (a clear violation of the law of conservation of energy) and even how they function.

Ether = strings of subquarks, also called scalar waves, or telluric currents (terminology used by N. Tesla).

The magnetic field consists of strings of subquarks (magnetic monopoles) which circulate between the two poles of the magnet (BOTH N-S and S-N). Through the subquarks we have a flow of bosons/antibosons.

In a conductor, which consists of the same subquark strings, these subquarks align themselves to allow the boson flow (what we actually call electricity).

The same phenomenon: one is a flow of bosons through subquarks outside a conductor, the other a flow of bosons inside a conductor.

The subquark strings are made up of two helices: a laevorotatory spin, and a dextrorotatory spin.

Terrestrial gravity is the DEXTROROTATORY SPIN SUBQUARK STRING; the laevorotatory offers the opposing force, the antigravitational energy needed to explain the DePalma, Kozyrev, and Brown experiments.

An normal electromagnetic wave is comprised of two such scalar waves, which propagate in double torsion fashion.

Tesla was able to inject signals/energy directly through a scalar wave, subquark string, with no loss of energy whatsoever.

Scalar waves are described by the set of original ether equations published by J.C. Maxwell in 1861.

Modern E/M theory is based on the censored/modified Heaviside-Lorentz equations which cause ripples in the sea of ether (subquark strings).

The intensity/vibrational energy of the subquark strings/scalar waves is much greater than the level of energy of the same subquarks found in a normal magnetic field (or in a conductor).

Magnetic monopoles, subquarks, are constantly emitted by an outside source, the only way to explain their presence.

Radiation is a measure of these constant exterior showers of particles upon matter: since (as an example) radium and uranium are much denser than, say helium, they constitute a more substantial target for the scalar waves which originate the radiation.

The two heavenly bodies which cause the solar/lunar eclipses emit these subquarks: the Black Sun originates the laevorotatory subquarks, the Shadow Moon emits the dextrorotatory subquarks.

The Allais effect proves the existence of these antigravitational waves, during a solar eclipse.


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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2017, 12:38:59 AM »


If I read what you write, I'll get thrown out of college.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 12:42:21 AM by Yashas »

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2017, 12:52:06 AM »
Subquarks = magnetic monopoles = gravitons

Gravitons are not electrically neutral.

Modern science cannot explain how an atom of iron (or nickel) constantly emits gravitons (a clear violation of the law of conservation of energy) and even how they function.

Ether = strings of subquarks, also called scalar waves, or telluric currents (terminology used by N. Tesla).

The magnetic field consists of strings of subquarks (magnetic monopoles) which circulate between the two poles of the magnet (BOTH N-S and S-N). Through the subquarks we have a flow of bosons/antibosons.

In a conductor, which consists of the same subquark strings, these subquarks align themselves to allow the boson flow (what we actually call electricity).

The same phenomenon: one is a flow of bosons through subquarks outside a conductor, the other a flow of bosons inside a conductor.

The subquark strings are made up of two helices: a laevorotatory spin, and a dextrorotatory spin.

Terrestrial gravity is the DEXTROROTATORY SPIN SUBQUARK STRING; the laevorotatory offers the opposing force, the antigravitational energy needed to explain the DePalma, Kozyrev, and Brown experiments.

An normal electromagnetic wave is comprised of two such scalar waves, which propagate in double torsion fashion.

Tesla was able to inject signals/energy directly through a scalar wave, subquark string, with no loss of energy whatsoever.

Scalar waves are described by the set of original ether equations published by J.C. Maxwell in 1861.

Modern E/M theory is based on the censored/modified Heaviside-Lorentz equations which cause ripples in the sea of ether (subquark strings).

The intensity/vibrational energy of the subquark strings/scalar waves is much greater than the level of energy of the same subquarks found in a normal magnetic field (or in a conductor).

Magnetic monopoles, subquarks, are constantly emitted by an outside source, the only way to explain their presence.

Radiation is a measure of these constant exterior showers of particles upon matter: since (as an example) radium and uranium are much denser than, say helium, they constitute a more substantial target for the scalar waves which originate the radiation.

The two heavenly bodies which cause the solar/lunar eclipses emit these subquarks: the Black Sun originates the laevorotatory subquarks, the Shadow Moon emits the dextrorotatory subquarks.

The Allais effect proves the existence of these antigravitational waves, during a solar eclipse.

Ok. I'm sorry but your big words seem more like obfuscation than explanation.
Can you resume this in something comprehensible to anyone that doesn't have to go off your word to decipher what all this means?

Beside the fact that most of modern particle physics goes against what you say about gravitons and subleptons, your jargon is impenetrable unless we take your course to understand your argument.

You don't need big words to sound smart - intelligence in elegance - layman's terms, please.
Only the ignorant choose to ignore opposing views.
Fight for your belief, don't run away.
It's the only way anyone can take you seriously.

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2017, 12:54:07 AM »
You are a naive RE who simply hasn't done his homework at all.
As opposed to you, a lying scumbag that just posts a bunch of shit without any thought at all.
Your posts aren't full of proofs, they are full of crap, nothing more.

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2017, 12:56:38 AM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65699.0
I take it you don't understand what explain means, and why it is in debate?

He wants you to explain it here, in a place where people are free to point out just how full of shit it is, with you actually doing work, rather than just linking to crap, which is just another link and copied and pasted crap.

Are you capable of having your own thoughts?

I wonder if you know the meaning of being cordial.  I also wonder if you sit in your mum's basement thinking of ways to insult people.  sandokhan does a lot of research and provides you with citations, and then another noob comes in and asks the same questions, expecting different results, I suppose.

If you want answers, at least treat people like they are people, not your go-to source of entertainment.  If you don't want an answer, then don't post.  Simple as that,
Yes, I do.
sandokhan doesn't appear to do any research, at least not any actual research. He seems to just find whatever he can which appears to support him and then just copy and paste or link to it.
He seems to be completely incapable of thinking for himself or rationally analysing anything.
It is quite possible he isn't a person at all and instead is just a bot.
He has been refuted multiple times, and all he is capable of doing in response is throwing out insults and repeating the same refuted crap.

He seems completely incapable of explaining anything.

Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2017, 04:56:21 AM »
Convince yourself that the official RE theory re: geomagnetism is wrong:

http://davidpratt.info/inner1.htm#s5

The RE theory is the most widely accepted theory. It explains the existence of tectonic plates, it explains how earthquakes happen, it explain how volcanos work, it explains why contenients drift apart, etc.

Now, the correct FE magnetricity theory.

MAGNETRICITY = ETHER MAGNETISM
ETHER? WHAT THE HELL?

Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley. The experiment is called Michealson-Morley experiment.

It is absolutely irrelevant to the topic. You are just throwing in random words. You don't even know what that means.

Electricity = Magnetism - both consist of subquark flow, one in a conductor, the other in space

This flow is made up of TWO currents, of opposing spin, traveling in double torsion fashion: the dextrorotatory subquarks and the laevorotatory subquarks.

Subquarks is a deprecated term in physics. We use Preons nowadays. However, your text is rubbish. Quarks have to do with particle physics and you are trying to explain magnetic fields using it in the macroscopic scale.


The recent discovery of magnetic monopoles:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1615813#msg1615813

Magnetic monopoles = subquarks

https://web.archive.org/web/20120303052100/http://smphillips.8m.com/pdfs/ESP_of_Quarks.pdf (Dr. Stephen Phillips, Cambridge, UCLA)

Magnetic monopoles do NOT exist.

Here is a crash course on magnetic monopoles/dipoles: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/173818/what-do-we-mean-with-magnetic-monopole-and-dipole/292994#292994

PRECISE, REAL TIME, PHOTOGRAPHS OF ELECTRICAL CURRENTS, THE DOUBLE VORTEX/SPIN/STRINGS AT WORK:









SPINTRONICS, secret world of magnets, the most thorough work on the double helix theory of the magnetic field (double helix of the telluric currents):

https://freeenergycommunity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/the-secret-world-of-magnets-spintronics-2006-howard-johnson.pdf

HERE IS HOW THE FLOW OF SUBQUARKS OCCURS IN A MAGNET:



You have hit the ceiling of bullshit.

Not only North-Center-South laevorotatory subquarks, but ALSO a South-Center-North flow of dextrorotatory subquarks/magnetic monopoles.



Interesting. Now we have chemistry here. A levorotatory molecule is an optically active molecule which rotates plane-polarized light to the left and a dextrorotatory molecule is an optically active molecule which rotates the plane polarized light tot he right. I have no idea what that has got to do here.

Absolute proof of the existence of subquarks:


http://web.archive.org/web/20150424110749/http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf (Dr. Stephen Phillips, UCLA, Cambridge)


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1401101#msg1401101 (what baryons, mesons, quarks, subquarks look like)

This is what the graviton/magnetic monopole looks like, both spins:



HYDROGEN ATOM: 18 SUBQUARKS - 9 LAEVOROTATORY AND 9 DEXTROROTATORY subquarks

A proton is made up of NINE laevorotatory subquarks - an electron is actually comprised of NINE dextrorotatory subquarks (called now preons).

However, modern science has mistakenly named a SINGLE dextrorotatory subquark as an electron and has ascribed THE TOTAL charge of the NINE corresponding subquarks as the total negative charge of a single electron, thus confusing the whole matter.


TELLURIC CURRENTS are represented by double torsion waves of BOTH laevorotatory (antigravity) and dextrorotatory (terrestrial gravity) subquarks.


NOW WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW ELECTRICITY FLOWS:

An electric current brought to bear upon the subquarks checks their proper motions, i.e., renders them slower; the subquarks exposed to it arrange themselves in parallel lines, and in each line the heart-shaped depression receives the flow, which passes out through the apex into the depression of the next, and so on. The subquarks always set themselves to the current.  In all the diagrams the heart-shaped body, exaggerated to show the depression caused by the inflow and the point caused by the outflow, is a single subquark.




Let us now back to the Nipher experiments.

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.


http://www.rexresearch.com/nipher/nipher1.htm

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher. Dr. Francis Nipher conducted extensive experiments during 1918, on a modified Cavendish experiment. He reproduced the classical arrangements for the experiment, where gravitational attraction could be measured between free-swinging masses, and a large fixed central mass. Dr. Nipher modified the Cavendish experiment by applying a large electrical field to the large central mass, which was sheilded inside a Faraday cage. When electrostatic charge was applied to the large fixed mass, the free-swinging masses exhibited a reduced attraction to the central mass, when the central mass was only slightly charged. As the electric field strength was increased, there arose a voltage threshold which resulted in no attraction at all between the fixed mass and the free-swinging masses. Increasing the potential applied to the central mass beyond that threshold, resulted in the free-swinging masses being repelled (!) from the fixed central mass. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.



Electricity is absolutely linked to terrestrial gravity.

Since subquarks = magnetic monopoles, we can see the beautiful and superb link between the Biefeld-Brown effect and the DePalma/Kozyrev/Allais effects:

In one case (Biefeld-Brown effect, performed in vacuum) the very strong electrical field will act as an attractor to telluric/subquark strings to form a plasma tornado around the capacitor, thus rendering it opaque to the usual dextrorotatory strings which do cause terrestrial gravity.

In the other, by torsion, in the DePalma experiment, the subquarks strings will also form a tornado around the ball/object thus producing the noted/recorded antigravitational effects.



The Flat Earth's magnetic field is produced by the two heavenly bodies which cause the solar and the lunar eclipses, and which emit the magnetic monopoles:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1676115#msg1676115

emit magnetic monopoles? LOL

You just spit in a bunch of random words to make up nonsense.

"Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley."

WHAT???? M/M experiment attempted to register the movement of earth through the aether, no movement was detected. The existence of the aether was proven to exist by several different experiments years later. It was Einstein that disproved the existence of aether by totally ignoring its existence when he stole other ideas to compile his brilliant master piece of total BS mathematical Jedi mind-ffff! It was what the people that pay the money wanted to hear, and wanted the public to know. Several scientists disagreed with Einstein's THEORY, they were ignored, or totally destroyed financially, or in other diabolical ways. Einstein was nothing more than a Zionist/Freemason puppet. Nothing more than a puppet on a string:

http://cdn.quotesgram.com/small/56/75/371527059-Puppet_Not_by_altair4444.jpg

Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2017, 05:11:44 AM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65699.0
I take it you don't understand what explain means, and why it is in debate?

He wants you to explain it here, in a place where people are free to point out just how full of shit it is, with you actually doing work, rather than just linking to crap, which is just another link and copied and pasted crap.

Are you capable of having your own thoughts?

I wonder if you know the meaning of being cordial.  I also wonder if you sit in your mum's basement thinking of ways to insult people.  sandokhan does a lot of research and provides you with citations, and then another noob comes in and asks the same questions, expecting different results, I suppose.

If you want answers, at least treat people like they are people, not your go-to source of entertainment.  If you don't want an answer, then don't post.  Simple as that,

He thinks abusing people is how you disprove the opponent's case. No doubt, he's a beaten down child, trying to make it in an adult mind.

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Son of Orospu

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2017, 05:26:10 AM »
JackBlack's modus operandi is to attack the person instead of the argument.  He is a sad bitter old man, but it makes him feel better to belittle people who have differing opinions from his own. 

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2017, 05:50:13 AM »
I actually spent quite a bit of time looking up the links, following the thought trails and reading into
what Sandokhan posted on this thread.

Unfortunately,
most of the supporting evidence for anything he has put are single outdated papers which are not supported by other research, part of something else, incompatible with each other or just down right misapplied illogical thinking.




 

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Yashas

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2017, 05:50:36 AM »
Convince yourself that the official RE theory re: geomagnetism is wrong:

http://davidpratt.info/inner1.htm#s5

The RE theory is the most widely accepted theory. It explains the existence of tectonic plates, it explains how earthquakes happen, it explain how volcanos work, it explains why contenients drift apart, etc.

Now, the correct FE magnetricity theory.

MAGNETRICITY = ETHER MAGNETISM
ETHER? WHAT THE HELL?

Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley. The experiment is called Michealson-Morley experiment.

It is absolutely irrelevant to the topic. You are just throwing in random words. You don't even know what that means.

Electricity = Magnetism - both consist of subquark flow, one in a conductor, the other in space

This flow is made up of TWO currents, of opposing spin, traveling in double torsion fashion: the dextrorotatory subquarks and the laevorotatory subquarks.

Subquarks is a deprecated term in physics. We use Preons nowadays. However, your text is rubbish. Quarks have to do with particle physics and you are trying to explain magnetic fields using it in the macroscopic scale.


The recent discovery of magnetic monopoles:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1615813#msg1615813

Magnetic monopoles = subquarks

https://web.archive.org/web/20120303052100/http://smphillips.8m.com/pdfs/ESP_of_Quarks.pdf (Dr. Stephen Phillips, Cambridge, UCLA)

Magnetic monopoles do NOT exist.

Here is a crash course on magnetic monopoles/dipoles: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/173818/what-do-we-mean-with-magnetic-monopole-and-dipole/292994#292994

PRECISE, REAL TIME, PHOTOGRAPHS OF ELECTRICAL CURRENTS, THE DOUBLE VORTEX/SPIN/STRINGS AT WORK:









SPINTRONICS, secret world of magnets, the most thorough work on the double helix theory of the magnetic field (double helix of the telluric currents):

https://freeenergycommunity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/the-secret-world-of-magnets-spintronics-2006-howard-johnson.pdf

HERE IS HOW THE FLOW OF SUBQUARKS OCCURS IN A MAGNET:



You have hit the ceiling of bullshit.

Not only North-Center-South laevorotatory subquarks, but ALSO a South-Center-North flow of dextrorotatory subquarks/magnetic monopoles.



Interesting. Now we have chemistry here. A levorotatory molecule is an optically active molecule which rotates plane-polarized light to the left and a dextrorotatory molecule is an optically active molecule which rotates the plane polarized light tot he right. I have no idea what that has got to do here.

Absolute proof of the existence of subquarks:


http://web.archive.org/web/20150424110749/http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf (Dr. Stephen Phillips, UCLA, Cambridge)


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1401101#msg1401101 (what baryons, mesons, quarks, subquarks look like)

This is what the graviton/magnetic monopole looks like, both spins:



HYDROGEN ATOM: 18 SUBQUARKS - 9 LAEVOROTATORY AND 9 DEXTROROTATORY subquarks

A proton is made up of NINE laevorotatory subquarks - an electron is actually comprised of NINE dextrorotatory subquarks (called now preons).

However, modern science has mistakenly named a SINGLE dextrorotatory subquark as an electron and has ascribed THE TOTAL charge of the NINE corresponding subquarks as the total negative charge of a single electron, thus confusing the whole matter.


TELLURIC CURRENTS are represented by double torsion waves of BOTH laevorotatory (antigravity) and dextrorotatory (terrestrial gravity) subquarks.


NOW WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW ELECTRICITY FLOWS:

An electric current brought to bear upon the subquarks checks their proper motions, i.e., renders them slower; the subquarks exposed to it arrange themselves in parallel lines, and in each line the heart-shaped depression receives the flow, which passes out through the apex into the depression of the next, and so on. The subquarks always set themselves to the current.  In all the diagrams the heart-shaped body, exaggerated to show the depression caused by the inflow and the point caused by the outflow, is a single subquark.




Let us now back to the Nipher experiments.

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.


http://www.rexresearch.com/nipher/nipher1.htm

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher. Dr. Francis Nipher conducted extensive experiments during 1918, on a modified Cavendish experiment. He reproduced the classical arrangements for the experiment, where gravitational attraction could be measured between free-swinging masses, and a large fixed central mass. Dr. Nipher modified the Cavendish experiment by applying a large electrical field to the large central mass, which was sheilded inside a Faraday cage. When electrostatic charge was applied to the large fixed mass, the free-swinging masses exhibited a reduced attraction to the central mass, when the central mass was only slightly charged. As the electric field strength was increased, there arose a voltage threshold which resulted in no attraction at all between the fixed mass and the free-swinging masses. Increasing the potential applied to the central mass beyond that threshold, resulted in the free-swinging masses being repelled (!) from the fixed central mass. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.



Electricity is absolutely linked to terrestrial gravity.

Since subquarks = magnetic monopoles, we can see the beautiful and superb link between the Biefeld-Brown effect and the DePalma/Kozyrev/Allais effects:

In one case (Biefeld-Brown effect, performed in vacuum) the very strong electrical field will act as an attractor to telluric/subquark strings to form a plasma tornado around the capacitor, thus rendering it opaque to the usual dextrorotatory strings which do cause terrestrial gravity.

In the other, by torsion, in the DePalma experiment, the subquarks strings will also form a tornado around the ball/object thus producing the noted/recorded antigravitational effects.



The Flat Earth's magnetic field is produced by the two heavenly bodies which cause the solar and the lunar eclipses, and which emit the magnetic monopoles:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1676115#msg1676115

emit magnetic monopoles? LOL

You just spit in a bunch of random words to make up nonsense.

"Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley."

WHAT???? M/M experiment attempted to register the movement of earth through the aether, no movement was detected. The existence of the aether was proven to exist by several different experiments years later. It was Einstein that disproved the existence of aether by totally ignoring its existence when he stole other ideas to compile his brilliant master piece of total BS mathematical Jedi mind-ffff! It was what the people that pay the money wanted to hear, and wanted the public to know. Several scientists disagreed with Einstein's THEORY, they were ignored, or totally destroyed financially, or in other diabolical ways. Einstein was nothing more than a Zionist/Freemason puppet. Nothing more than a puppet on a string:

http://cdn.quotesgram.com/small/56/75/371527059-Puppet_Not_by_altair4444.jpg

I am really sorry. I work with mainstream physics every day. I don't understand non-mainstream fictitious physics.

The theory of special relativity and general relativity have been experimentally validated. They are correct. If you claim them to be incorrect, you are not talking about our world. In this universe, they are accurate.

I really cannot argue when you write all sorts of nonsense; even a high school student writes meaningful sentences. If you don't mind answering, what are your educational qualifications?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 05:53:12 AM by Yashas »

Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2017, 05:52:48 AM »
Convince yourself that the official RE theory re: geomagnetism is wrong:

http://davidpratt.info/inner1.htm#s5

The RE theory is the most widely accepted theory. It explains the existence of tectonic plates, it explains how earthquakes happen, it explain how volcanos work, it explains why contenients drift apart, etc.

Now, the correct FE magnetricity theory.

MAGNETRICITY = ETHER MAGNETISM
ETHER? WHAT THE HELL?

Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley. The experiment is called Michealson-Morley experiment.

It is absolutely irrelevant to the topic. You are just throwing in random words. You don't even know what that means.

Electricity = Magnetism - both consist of subquark flow, one in a conductor, the other in space

This flow is made up of TWO currents, of opposing spin, traveling in double torsion fashion: the dextrorotatory subquarks and the laevorotatory subquarks.

Subquarks is a deprecated term in physics. We use Preons nowadays. However, your text is rubbish. Quarks have to do with particle physics and you are trying to explain magnetic fields using it in the macroscopic scale.


The recent discovery of magnetic monopoles:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1615813#msg1615813

Magnetic monopoles = subquarks

https://web.archive.org/web/20120303052100/http://smphillips.8m.com/pdfs/ESP_of_Quarks.pdf (Dr. Stephen Phillips, Cambridge, UCLA)

Magnetic monopoles do NOT exist.

Here is a crash course on magnetic monopoles/dipoles: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/173818/what-do-we-mean-with-magnetic-monopole-and-dipole/292994#292994

PRECISE, REAL TIME, PHOTOGRAPHS OF ELECTRICAL CURRENTS, THE DOUBLE VORTEX/SPIN/STRINGS AT WORK:









SPINTRONICS, secret world of magnets, the most thorough work on the double helix theory of the magnetic field (double helix of the telluric currents):

https://freeenergycommunity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/the-secret-world-of-magnets-spintronics-2006-howard-johnson.pdf

HERE IS HOW THE FLOW OF SUBQUARKS OCCURS IN A MAGNET:



You have hit the ceiling of bullshit.

Not only North-Center-South laevorotatory subquarks, but ALSO a South-Center-North flow of dextrorotatory subquarks/magnetic monopoles.



Interesting. Now we have chemistry here. A levorotatory molecule is an optically active molecule which rotates plane-polarized light to the left and a dextrorotatory molecule is an optically active molecule which rotates the plane polarized light tot he right. I have no idea what that has got to do here.

Absolute proof of the existence of subquarks:


http://web.archive.org/web/20150424110749/http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf (Dr. Stephen Phillips, UCLA, Cambridge)


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1401101#msg1401101 (what baryons, mesons, quarks, subquarks look like)

This is what the graviton/magnetic monopole looks like, both spins:



HYDROGEN ATOM: 18 SUBQUARKS - 9 LAEVOROTATORY AND 9 DEXTROROTATORY subquarks

A proton is made up of NINE laevorotatory subquarks - an electron is actually comprised of NINE dextrorotatory subquarks (called now preons).

However, modern science has mistakenly named a SINGLE dextrorotatory subquark as an electron and has ascribed THE TOTAL charge of the NINE corresponding subquarks as the total negative charge of a single electron, thus confusing the whole matter.


TELLURIC CURRENTS are represented by double torsion waves of BOTH laevorotatory (antigravity) and dextrorotatory (terrestrial gravity) subquarks.


NOW WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW ELECTRICITY FLOWS:

An electric current brought to bear upon the subquarks checks their proper motions, i.e., renders them slower; the subquarks exposed to it arrange themselves in parallel lines, and in each line the heart-shaped depression receives the flow, which passes out through the apex into the depression of the next, and so on. The subquarks always set themselves to the current.  In all the diagrams the heart-shaped body, exaggerated to show the depression caused by the inflow and the point caused by the outflow, is a single subquark.




Let us now back to the Nipher experiments.

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.


http://www.rexresearch.com/nipher/nipher1.htm

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher. Dr. Francis Nipher conducted extensive experiments during 1918, on a modified Cavendish experiment. He reproduced the classical arrangements for the experiment, where gravitational attraction could be measured between free-swinging masses, and a large fixed central mass. Dr. Nipher modified the Cavendish experiment by applying a large electrical field to the large central mass, which was sheilded inside a Faraday cage. When electrostatic charge was applied to the large fixed mass, the free-swinging masses exhibited a reduced attraction to the central mass, when the central mass was only slightly charged. As the electric field strength was increased, there arose a voltage threshold which resulted in no attraction at all between the fixed mass and the free-swinging masses. Increasing the potential applied to the central mass beyond that threshold, resulted in the free-swinging masses being repelled (!) from the fixed central mass. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.



Electricity is absolutely linked to terrestrial gravity.

Since subquarks = magnetic monopoles, we can see the beautiful and superb link between the Biefeld-Brown effect and the DePalma/Kozyrev/Allais effects:

In one case (Biefeld-Brown effect, performed in vacuum) the very strong electrical field will act as an attractor to telluric/subquark strings to form a plasma tornado around the capacitor, thus rendering it opaque to the usual dextrorotatory strings which do cause terrestrial gravity.

In the other, by torsion, in the DePalma experiment, the subquarks strings will also form a tornado around the ball/object thus producing the noted/recorded antigravitational effects.



The Flat Earth's magnetic field is produced by the two heavenly bodies which cause the solar and the lunar eclipses, and which emit the magnetic monopoles:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1676115#msg1676115

emit magnetic monopoles? LOL

You just spit in a bunch of random words to make up nonsense.

"Ether was thought to be a medium of vacuum. Its existence was disproved by Michealson and Morley."

WHAT???? M/M experiment attempted to register the movement of earth through the aether, no movement was detected. The existence of the aether was proven to exist by several different experiments years later. It was Einstein that disproved the existence of aether by totally ignoring its existence when he stole other ideas to compile his brilliant master piece of total BS mathematical Jedi mind-ffff! It was what the people that pay the money wanted to hear, and wanted the public to know. Several scientists disagreed with Einstein's THEORY, they were ignored, or totally destroyed financially, or in other diabolical ways. Einstein was nothing more than a Zionist/Freemason puppet. Nothing more than a puppet on a string:

http://cdn.quotesgram.com/small/56/75/371527059-Puppet_Not_by_altair4444.jpg

I am really sorry. I work with mainstream physics every day. I don't understand non-mainstream fictitious physics.

Solid rebuttal chap! Typical PhD Professor, thinks he's better than everyone else! Look, I can see your buggies, GROSS!

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2017, 05:54:24 AM »
I actually spent quite a bit of time looking up the links, following the thought trails and reading into
what Sandokhan posted on this thread.

Unfortunately,
most of the supporting evidence for anything he has put are single outdated papers which are not supported by other research, part of something else, incompatible with each other or just down right misapplied illogical thinking.

As a matter of fact, this is normal science. Many research papers are wrong. Wrong ones are discarded and correct ones are accepted. The papers get reviewed by several people.


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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2017, 06:00:46 AM »
Should we all vote on wich scientific theories are the right ones now?  I did not realize that science became a popularity contest. 

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2017, 06:37:49 AM »
We use theories which have been tested. Theories are correct. Hypotheses needn't be correct. A research paper isn't a theory until it is tested.

The point I wanted to make is that research papers can be wrong but accepted theories cannot be wrong.

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2017, 06:53:08 AM »
The theory of special relativity and general relativity have been experimentally validated. They are correct. If you claim them to be incorrect, you are not talking about our world. In this universe, they are accurate.

There is no such thing as the theory of relativity.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65085.msg1736864#msg1736864 (total demolition of STR/GTR; includes Mercury's perihelion, 1919/1922 tests, Pound-Rebka experiment)

Aether frame-dragging:


http://www.cellularuniverse.org/R1RelativityofTime.pdf

http://worldnpa.org/abstracts/abstracts_1130.pdf

http://www.treurniet.ca/physics/framedragging.htm

http://www.wbabin.net/weuro/agathan5.pdf


COMPARISON OF THE SAGNAC EFFECT WITH SPECIAL RELATIVITY, starts on page 7, calculations/formulas on page 8

http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/pdf/ebooks/Kelly-TimeandtheSpeedofLight.pdf

page 8

Because many investigators claim that the
Sagnac effect is made explicable by using the
Theory of Special Relativity, a comparison of
that theory with the actual test results is given
below. It will be shown that the effects
calculated under these two theories are of very
different orders of magnitude, and that
therefore the Special Theory is of no value in
trying to explain the effect.


Thus the Sagnac effect is far larger than any
purely Relativistic effect. For example,
considering the data in the Pogany test (8 ),
where the rim of the disc was moving with a
velocity of 25 m/s, the ratio dtS/dtR is about
1.5 x 10^7. Any attempt to explain the Sagnac
as a Relativistic effect is thus useless, as it is
smaller by a factor of 10^7.



Referring back to equation (I), consider a disc
of radius one kilometre. In this case a fringe
shift of one fringe is achieved with a velocity
at the perimeter of the disc of 0.013m/s. This
is an extremely low velocity, being less than
lm per minute. In this case the Sagnac effect
would be 50 billion times larger than the
calculated effect under the Relativity Theory.



Post (1967) shows that the two (Sagnac and STR) are of very different orders of magnitude. He says that the dilation factor to be applied under SR is “indistinguishable with presently available equipment” and “is still one order smaller than the Doppler correction, which occurs when observing fringe shifts” in the Sagnac tests. He also points out that the Doppler effect “is v/c times smaller than the effect one wants to observe." Here Post states that the effect forecast by SR, for the time dilation aboard a moving object, is far smaller than the effect to be observed in a Sagnac test.


In this universe, there is no such thing as the theory of relativity.



Unfortunately, most of the supporting evidence for anything he has put are single outdated papers which are not supported by other research.

Your tricks don't work with me.


Where do you think Paul Dirac got his idea for the positron?

Chadwick (neutron), Pauli (neutrino), Gell-Mann (quarks), Higgs (boson), ALL of these physicists COPIED their "discoveries" from a single source.

In fact, Gell-Mann did not even bother to modify the information on the quarks contained in that treatise.

The entire theory of strings was copied from the pages of this work.

The greatest treatise on ether, quantum mechanics ever written:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1401101#msg1401101

Each and every element and isotope correctly described (in 1908) DECADES before they were even discovered: promethium (1945), astatine (1940), francium (1939), protactinium (1921), technetium (1937), deuterium, neon-22 nuclide (1913).

A clear description of strings, bosons, quarks, subquarks, positrons, DECADES before these concepts even came into existence.

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2017, 07:33:48 AM »
Facepalm. You keep quoting Einstein and now you tell there is no theory called relativity. Einstein's theory is called theory of relativity.

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2017, 12:18:44 PM »
JackBlack's modus operandi is to attack the person instead of the argument.  He is a sad bitter old man, but it makes him feel better to belittle people who have differing opinions from his own.

Pretty sure you just did exactly what you condemned him for doing.
Only the ignorant choose to ignore opposing views.
Fight for your belief, don't run away.
It's the only way anyone can take you seriously.

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2017, 12:27:12 PM »
Just as an aside - this Dark Sun and And Shadow Moon thing sounds very high-fantasy-scifi and all, but have these objects been observed?

Sure, dark matter hadn't been observed, but scientists are willing to say "we don't know" - that's kind of what dark matter is.
And even now they are theorising it may not be necessary.

What are these things? Where are they?  And how to they supposedly cause eclipses when the movements of the "Light Sun" and "Shining Moon" are already explanations for the eclipses?

Once again, sandokhan, bring it back to basics.
Words are pretty, but verbal diarrhea is not - simplicity is your friend.
If you don't understand the basics, that's fine. But if you ever want to educate anyone on how this stuff works, you've got to make it approachable. Do what all great scientists are capable of doing: reduce and simplify. Even as a first step so we can see what you're talking about.

Only the ignorant choose to ignore opposing views.
Fight for your belief, don't run away.
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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2017, 12:38:01 PM »
If you want anyone to believe that the Moon causes the solar eclipse, then you are going to have to explain the Allais effect:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=70052.msg1892354#msg1892354
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 12:40:53 PM by sandokhan »

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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2017, 12:47:20 PM »
If you want anyone to believe that the Moon causes the solar eclipse, then you are going to have to explain the Allais effect:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=70052.msg1892354#msg1892354

More walls of pretty words.
To resume the article: a bunch if men underground did stuff with swinging things and spoke about physics.

The deflection doesn't work? Sandokhan - I asked how your two new unobservable astronomical objects are causing an observable phenomenon directly attributable to predictable patterns of observable objects.

Please contain yourself to answering the question at hand as you understand it, rather than using other people's pretty words.
It's not that hard.

Deflection is not particularly becoming in a debate. It makes you look scared.
Only the ignorant choose to ignore opposing views.
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Re: Origin of magnetic field in the flat earth model
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2017, 01:00:11 PM »
The origin of the Black Sun/Shadow Moon, the relationship between terrestrial gravity and shadowing, why these heavenly bodies are observed only during the solar/lunar eclipses, are subjects which have already been addressed by me numerous times, search/look for them in my messages.

You are the one deflecting/dodging the very issue raised by you.

The Allais effect is real, make no mistake about it.

Here is the report sent by Dr. Allais, a Nobel prize winner, to Nasa:

http://www.allais.info/alltrans/nasareport.pdf

Unless you can explain the Allais effect, nobody here will pay attention to anything you say on the solar eclipse, it is that simple.