Convince me the earth is a spinning speeding ball with clues from earth.

I know can't, there is no evidence of such. But hey, give it your best shot...............................

Focault's Pendulum

Ring lasers

High resolution gyroscopes

Drop of g towards the equator

Weather phenomenas

Sun sinks below horizon

Sips/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator

Horizon drop when climbing.

One can see further when having a higher stance

On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon

Star trails

Stars change hight when traveling north/south

Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.

Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.

Last night i saw the ISS passing by.

Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)

And many, many more.

I know can't, there is no evidence of such. But hey, give it your best shot...............................

You have already been provided evidence, you ignored it.
What's the point in providing it again?

Will you listen this time?
I doubt it.

Why restrict it to Earth?
Why ignore all the other evidence out there?

Quote from: physical observer on March 31, 2017, 02:24:27 AM

I know can't, there is no evidence of such. But hey, give it your best shot...............................

You have already been provided evidence, you ignored it.
What's the point in providing it again?

Will you listen this time?
I doubt it.

Why restrict it to Earth?
Why ignore all the other evidence out there?

No evidence in this post, move on folks.

Quote from: JackBlack on March 31, 2017, 02:50:19 AM

Quote from: physical observer on March 31, 2017, 02:24:27 AM

I know can't, there is no evidence of such. But hey, give it your best shot...............................

You have already been provided evidence, you ignored it.
What's the point in providing it again?

Will you listen this time?
I doubt it.

Why restrict it to Earth?
Why ignore all the other evidence out there?

No evidence in this post, move on folks.

How about you answer my questions before I provide more evidence (or the same evidence)?
Will you listen this time?
Why limit yourself to Earth? Is it because you know if you can use the stars FE dies so fast it isn't funny?

Focault's Pendulum

Ring lasers

High resolution gyroscopes

Drop of g towards the equator

Weather phenomenas

Sun sinks below horizon

Sips/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator

Horizon drop when climbing.

One can see further when having a higher stance

On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon

Star trails

Stars change hight when traveling north/south

Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.

Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.

Last night i saw the ISS passing by.

Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)

And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

Remember that seen from one point the earth moves very fast, but it's actual rounds per minute (rpm) = 0.000068 rpm or something like that.

People confuse the two a lot ( rpm and spin speed)

Remember that seen from one point the earth moves very fast, but it's actual rounds per minute (rpm) = 0.000068 rpm or something like that.

People confuse the two a lot ( rpm and spin speed)

Seen by who?

I know can't, there is no evidence of such. But hey, give it your best shot...............................

Why would I bother? The original evidence for a rotating earth came from astronomical observations.

Though one piece of evidence on earth is the cause of rotation of high and low pressure weather systems rotating.
You might remember this

The Coriolis effect is the reason for the four distinct situations that are observed for High Pressure Weather systems and Low Pressure Weather systems, including Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.

		Northern Hemisphere		Southern Hemisphere
Highs		Clockwise		Anti-clockwise
Lows		Anti-clockwise		Clockwise

Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself,

or are you going to claim that all meteorologists are part of your conspiracy too!

We have just had Cyclone Debbie, guess the direction of rotation! It just happened to be clockwise, just like every other cyclone we have had.

The Coriolis effect is good evidence for the earth's rotation.

Of course, by now there are instruments that directly measure or rely on the earth's rotation.

Quote from: physical observer on March 31, 2017, 02:24:27 AM

I know can't, there is no evidence of such. But hey, give it your best shot...............................

Why would I bother? The original evidence for a rotating earth came from astronomical observations.

Though one piece of evidence on earth is the cause of rotation of high and low pressure weather systems rotating.
You might remember this

Quote

The Coriolis effect is the reason for the four distinct situations that are observed for High Pressure Weather systems and Low Pressure Weather systems, including Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.

		Northern Hemisphere		Southern Hemisphere
Highs		Clockwise		Anti-clockwise
Lows		Anti-clockwise		Clockwise

Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself,

or are you going to claim that all meteorologists are part of your conspiracy too!

We have just had Cyclone Debbie, guess the direction of rotation! It just happened to be clockwise, just like every other cyclone we have had.

The Coriolis effect is good evidence for the earth's rotation.

Of course, by now there are instruments that directly measure or rely on the earth's rotation.

"The original evidence for a rotating earth came from astronomical observations."

Stars rotating above us.

"The Coriolis effect..."

Has been debunked by many people. Storms rotate in both directions on both sides of the equator. Sink drains and toilets drain in both directions on both sides of the equator I showed a video of the jet stream, along with clouds, crossing over the equator. The meteorologist in the video laid the blame with temperature, not any Coriolis effect.

"by now there are instruments that directly measure or rely on the earth's rotation."

Does earth have a speedometer? Please show it to me!

When I stand on earth, it feels motionless, I'm sure you agree.

My explanation; because earth is a motionless.

Your reason/s the earth feels motionless; ...................................................

Get ready Occam, they're going to do it again.

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum
Ring lasers
High resolution gyroscopes
Drop of g towards the equator
Weather phenomenas
Sun sinks below horizon
Ships/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator
Horizon drop when climbing.
One can see further when having a higher stance
On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon
Star trails
Stars change hight when traveling north/south
Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.
Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.
Last night i saw the ISS passing by.
Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)
And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

You like most flat earthers are totally blind to all the evidence around you! Talk about indoctrinated!


Take your blinkers off!

Quote from: sceptimatic on March 31, 2017, 03:23:33 AM

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum
Ring lasers
High resolution gyroscopes
Drop of g towards the equator
Weather phenomenas
Sun sinks below horizon
Ships/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator
Horizon drop when climbing.
One can see further when having a higher stance
On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon
Star trails
Stars change hight when traveling north/south
Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.
Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.
Last night i saw the ISS passing by.
Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)
And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

You like most flat earthers are totally blind to all the evidence around you! Talk about indoctrinated!

I can't see any curvature! 

Take your blinkers off!

Projection is not evidence from earth's physical nature, only the admission in your mind of your lack of evidence. I know, I was there at one point not long ago.

Quote from: sceptimatic on March 31, 2017, 03:23:33 AM

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum
Ring lasers
High resolution gyroscopes
Drop of g towards the equator
Weather phenomenas
Sun sinks below horizon
Ships/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator
Horizon drop when climbing.
One can see further when having a higher stance
On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon
Star trails
Stars change hight when traveling north/south
Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.
Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.
Last night i saw the ISS passing by.
Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)
And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

You like most flat earthers are totally blind to all the evidence around you! Talk about indoctrinated!

I can't see any curvature! 

Take your blinkers off!

"Take your blinkers off!"

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's "blinders", not 'blinkers'! I have to say, you'll keep me amused! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have a look at this and see what you think.
Globalists will see pretty unicorns and fairy dust.
I want realists and free thinking genuine people to ponder this.

You can see Mt Rainier over the curve of the Earth.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ll2qo

Here's another photo of Mount rainier from closer. If you're not familiar with how tall it is and what it looks like, this will help.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/pin/156077943306102718/

Have a look at this and see what you think.
Globalists will see pretty unicorns and fairy dust.
I want realists and free thinking genuine people to ponder this.

 The creator of this video seems to be proud of his or her ignorance. Not knowing how something works is not proof that it doesn't work. Also, the fact that the person thinks that the earth wobbles in its orbit  throughout the year shows that the person doesn't even understand the most basic earth science. People should at least know what they're talking about before they try to argue against something.

You can see Mt Rainier over the curve of the Earth.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ll2qo

Here's another photo of Mount rainier from closer. If you're not familiar with how tall it is and what it looks like, this will help.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/pin/156077943306102718/

Look how flat and level the water surface looks. Perspective, land mass, evaporation and waves can account for the bottom obscurity. Move up higher, and you change the floor perspective, you get above the water evaporation and waves.

As far as land mass, look at the bottom of the mountain, you can plainly see foot hills obscuring the bottom of the mountain in the first pic. You may still have an issue with obscurity, depending on how high you go.

You can see Mt Rainier over the curve of the Earth.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ll2qo

Here's another photo of Mount rainier from closer. If you're not familiar with how tall it is and what it looks like, this will help.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/pin/156077943306102718/

Second link, how does a travel brochure support we live on a spinning speeding ball?

Quote from: Jonny B Smart on March 31, 2017, 05:00:47 AM

You can see Mt Rainier over the curve of the Earth.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ll2qo

Here's another photo of Mount rainier from closer. If you're not familiar with how tall it is and what it looks like, this will help.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/pin/156077943306102718/

Look how flat and level the water surface looks. Perspective, land mass, evaporation and waves can account for the bottom obscurity. Move up higher, and you change the floor perspective, you get above the water evaporation and waves.

As far as land mass, look at the bottom of the mountain, you can plainly see foot hills obscuring the bottom of the mountain in the first pic. You may still have an issue with obscurity, depending on how high you go.

Do you make shovels for a living?

Quote from: physical observer on March 31, 2017, 05:15:33 AM

Quote from: Jonny B Smart on March 31, 2017, 05:00:47 AM

You can see Mt Rainier over the curve of the Earth.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ll2qo

Here's another photo of Mount rainier from closer. If you're not familiar with how tall it is and what it looks like, this will help.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/pin/156077943306102718/

Look how flat and level the water surface looks. Perspective, land mass, evaporation and waves can account for the bottom obscurity. Move up higher, and you change the floor perspective, you get above the water evaporation and waves.

As far as land mass, look at the bottom of the mountain, you can plainly see foot hills obscuring the bottom of the mountain in the first pic. You may still have an issue with obscurity, depending on how high you go.

Do you make shovels for a living?

Solid rebuttal, I must say chap! But really, I make waders for dealing with people like you.

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum

Ring lasers

High resolution gyroscopes

Drop of g towards the equator

Weather phenomenas

Sun sinks below horizon

Sips/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator

Horizon drop when climbing.

One can see further when having a higher stance

On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon

Star trails

Stars change hight when traveling north/south

Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.

Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.

Last night i saw the ISS passing by.

Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)

And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

i like to see all your evidence that disproves all the points you crossed out.

Quote from: sceptimatic on March 31, 2017, 03:23:33 AM

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum

Ring lasers

High resolution gyroscopes

Drop of g towards the equator

Weather phenomenas

Sun sinks below horizon

Sips/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator

Horizon drop when climbing.

One can see further when having a higher stance

On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon

Star trails

Stars change hight when traveling north/south

Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.

Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.

Last night i saw the ISS passing by.

Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)

And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

i like to see all your evidence that disproves all the points you crossed out.

You gotta show me how it supports RE, I don't have to disprove anything. You have an issue with comprehension. What is the title of the thread? "Convince me the earth is a spinning speeding ball with clues from earth."

How do the items on your list support we are on a spinning speeding ball?

Quote from: rabinoz on March 31, 2017, 04:44:39 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on March 31, 2017, 03:23:33 AM

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum
Ring lasers
High resolution gyroscopes
Drop of g towards the equator
Weather phenomenas
Sun sinks below horizon
Ships/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator
Horizon drop when climbing.
One can see further when having a higher stance
On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon
Star trails
Stars change hight when traveling north/south
Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.
Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.
Last night i saw the ISS passing by.
Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)
And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

You like most flat earthers are totally blind to all the evidence around you! Talk about indoctrinated!

I can't see any curvature! 

Take your blinkers off!

Projection is not evidence from earth's physical nature, only the admission in your mind of your lack of evidence. I know, I was there at one point not long ago.

What are you babbling on about? "Projection" did not come into that post in any shape or form!

Sceptimatic simply crossed out all of sciencer's little bits of evidence and I accused him of cloing his eyes to it all, just like you do!

So, once again, please explain just why you are talking about "projection" - must be over my head!

Quote from: Canadabear on March 31, 2017, 05:44:10 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on March 31, 2017, 03:23:33 AM

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum

Ring lasers

High resolution gyroscopes

Drop of g towards the equator

Weather phenomenas

Sun sinks below horizon

Sips/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator

Horizon drop when climbing.

One can see further when having a higher stance

On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon

Star trails

Stars change hight when traveling north/south

Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.

Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.

Last night i saw the ISS passing by.

Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)

And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

i like to see all your evidence that disproves all the points you crossed out.

You gotta show me how it supports RE, I don't have to disprove anything. You have an issue with comprehension. What is the title of the thread? "Convince me the earth is a spinning speeding ball with clues from earth."

How do the items on your list support we are on a spinning speeding ball?

we showed you prove but it got dismissed by you and scepti

now you have to prove why you can dismiss them.
simply logic.

Quote from: physical observer on March 31, 2017, 05:49:56 AM

Quote from: Canadabear on March 31, 2017, 05:44:10 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on March 31, 2017, 03:23:33 AM

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum

Ring lasers

High resolution gyroscopes

Drop of g towards the equator

Weather phenomenas

Sun sinks below horizon

Sips/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator

Horizon drop when climbing.

One can see further when having a higher stance

On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon

Star trails

Stars change hight when traveling north/south

Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.

Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.

Last night i saw the ISS passing by.

Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)

And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

i like to see all your evidence that disproves all the points you crossed out.

You gotta show me how it supports RE, I don't have to disprove anything. You have an issue with comprehension. What is the title of the thread? "Convince me the earth is a spinning speeding ball with clues from earth."

How do the items on your list support we are on a spinning speeding ball?

we showed you prove but it got dismissed by you and scepti

now you have to prove why you can dismiss them.
simply logic.

Can't give your support, can you? When you'll claim I gave none, I give more. But, you are giving what you had before, nothing. So I really can't complain.

Quote from: physical observer on March 31, 2017, 05:49:56 AM

Quote from: Canadabear on March 31, 2017, 05:44:10 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on March 31, 2017, 03:23:33 AM

Quote from: sciencer on March 31, 2017, 02:48:31 AM

Focault's Pendulum

Ring lasers

High resolution gyroscopes

Drop of g towards the equator

Weather phenomenas

Sun sinks below horizon

Sips/buildings disappear from the bottom behind the equator

Horizon drop when climbing.

One can see further when having a higher stance

On a clear day no haze which oscures the horizon

Star trails

Stars change hight when traveling north/south

Stars/sun changes time of rise set (and so on) when traveling east/west
Oh, the direction of Sunrise/sunset fits with RE.

Sun/moon does not change size during their march over the sky.

Last night i saw the ISS passing by.

Amateur recordings from their rockets from the earth.

Official recordings from the earth (NASA, roscosmos, Chinese, ESA, dlr, ...)

And many, many more.

It appears there is no proof at all.

i like to see all your evidence that disproves all the points you crossed out.

You gotta show me how it supports RE, I don't have to disprove anything. You have an issue with comprehension. What is the title of the thread? "Convince me the earth is a spinning speeding ball with clues from earth."

How do the items on your list support we are on a spinning speeding ball?

we showed you prove but it got dismissed by you and scepti

now you have to prove why you can dismiss them.
simply logic.

How does the Foucault pendulum prove we are on a spinning speeding ball? You give your explanation, I'll give my rebuttal. Then we'll move on to the next "proof", 'ring lasers'. That's how a debate works.

Quote from: Jonny B Smart on March 31, 2017, 05:00:47 AM

You can see Mt Rainier over the curve of the Earth.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ll2qo

Here's another photo of Mount rainier from closer. If you're not familiar with how tall it is and what it looks like, this will help.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/pin/156077943306102718/

Look how flat and level the water surface looks. Perspective, land mass, evaporation and waves can account for the bottom obscurity. Move up higher, and you change the floor perspective, you get above the water evaporation and waves.

As far as land mass, look at the bottom of the mountain, you can plainly see foot hills obscuring the bottom of the mountain in the first pic. You may still have an issue with obscurity, depending on how high you go.

 I'm showing you the two pictures because a lot of people on this site have never seen Mount Rainier. It is extremely tall compared to the surrounding hills-- thousands of feet taller. In the first picture, the mountain does not look the same because the bottom is clearly cut off. The second picture is a basic view of Mount Rainier from Seattle.  From closer, in Seattle, you can see pretty much the whole mountain. From further away in Canada, you can see only the top of the mountain. I don't think that there are waves to come 7000 feet up the mountain to block the view of the bottom. It has over 14,000 feet tall.

How does the Foucault pendulum prove we are on a spinning speeding ball? You give your explanation, I'll give my rebuttal. Then we'll move on to the next "proof", 'ring lasers'. That's how a debate works.
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it starts rotation while it swings.

now, whats your evidence and research that disprove that.

Quote from: sokarul on March 31, 2017, 05:22:20 AM

Quote from: physical observer on March 31, 2017, 05:15:33 AM

Quote from: Jonny B Smart on March 31, 2017, 05:00:47 AM

You can see Mt Rainier over the curve of the Earth.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ll2qo

Here's another photo of Mount rainier from closer. If you're not familiar with how tall it is and what it looks like, this will help.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/pin/156077943306102718/

Look how flat and level the water surface looks. Perspective, land mass, evaporation and waves can account for the bottom obscurity. Move up higher, and you change the floor perspective, you get above the water evaporation and waves.

As far as land mass, look at the bottom of the mountain, you can plainly see foot hills obscuring the bottom of the mountain in the first pic. You may still have an issue with obscurity, depending on how high you go.

Do you make shovels for a living?

Solid rebuttal, I must say chap! But really, I make waders for dealing with people like you.

Maybe when you actually back up a claim I can make a better post. Until then all you are doing is just ad hocing responses based on nothing.

Even if you put observer into space and saw the RE he will still say that it's an optical illusion/CGI. Will always be close minded always.