If you have a video or picture of a water surface on earth that is bowing to match the alleged curvature, then show it!
We have. You just dismiss them.
Every video you'll have produced has been easily debunked just by showing the horizon where water meets air.
No. They haven't.
They show exactly what you would expect, the horizon being at the same angle, and thus appearing straight, while blocking the lower sections (or entirety) of objects in the distance.
a straight edge, sky side, along the horizon, and I have NEVER seen a curved water surface. The water surface is always perfectly aligned with the straight edge. Go ahead, check for yourself
So you used the straight edge to obstruct any buldge?
Good job.
I have analysed a few photos, including several you provided here.
Some have the water bowing down, others have it bowing up.
When I pointed that out to you, you dismissed it as waves.
So no, they are not perfectly aligned. Instead they are imperfect and you have a degree of error which makes it impossible to distinguish a flat Earth from a round Earth for most photos/videos.
Really? Have you actually watched this video?
The horizon, just in the still image before playing the video, is curved.
On the left the horizon is at y=48, on the right it is 40. In the middle it is at 43. (and there is a difference of 287.5 px between each point in the x direction).
So the overall slope is 0.014. For the left section it is 0.017. On the right it is 0.010.
So there you have, in your own video, a clear curve on the horizon.
See, I tested to make sure the water line horizon is level, straight, non-deviating before I formulated this argument
BULLSHIT.
If you did, you would have seen that curve in the third video.
now I have no need to check, for I know the outcome will always be the same, a straight, level, flat waterline, where water meets air.
Except it wont be.
You checked a few cases which showed no noticeable curve due to the low altitude or low FOV, and then falsely concluded that it is flat all the time.
So I know, based on that observable fact, ships do not go over some imaginary curvature, there has to be a different phenomena happening, and there is:
No. You believe due to your ignorant bullshit.
Observable fact shows ships disappear over the horizon.
Perspective doesn't explain it.
Find videos that pan far away, so you get more distance/miles of the water line horizon left to right. Then it will be easier to show the water curvature. Like this one
Nope. Quite the opposite.
Panning a distant horizon will keep the angle the same and thus keep the position on the camera the same.
That will make it harder.
What you want is a picture which captures as much of the horizon as possible in a single image with a small FOV.
But that requires viewing it from a great distance, and you just dismiss it as CGI.
I know, because water does not arch/bow/convex/curve across its surface. You'll NEVER see or find an example here on plane earth. So we agree. I took the liberty of adding -not- for you, hope you don't mind.
No. It is because the bowing expected for that is so small it isn't funny, and it relies upon a proper perspective image instead of something which measures based upon angles.
This is because the horizon is at the same angle, all around.
That only means NASA's globes are a flat out lie, correct? And, you must start using multiple explanations to explain away what is not observed about the physics of water. Go ahead, by now Occam has already rolled over in his grave several times since I started posting here. One more flip by you won't bother him that much.
No. It doesn't.
It means they are far enough away to start seeing a noticeable curve.
If you want to see the curve, take a fish eye camera and aim it straight down. That will let you see the circle of the horizon.
We aren't using multiple explanations to explain away what is not observed.
These things you want to observe are not meant to be observed for a spinning round Earth, with a radius of ~ 6371 km spinning at a rate of ~ 15 degrees an hour.
Yes, with every post full of bullshit you post, Occam will roll over in his grave.
You'll claim a human eye can see a ship go over a curvature, so that same human eye should be ale to see that same curvature with the water horizon, left to right. It's all the same distance for the human eye, right? I mean, you'll claim we live on a ball, not a rolling pin.
No. Not the same curvature.
That same curvature would be the great circle of Earth, which is hidden by the horizon. You only see a single point.
The horizon will be at the same angle of depression all around, and thus not appear to curve.
However, if I'm at a 90 degree position to the 'away' observer, I'll see the same ship sail along a flat, level, horizontal horizon water line. I will not observer a ship sailing from my left to my right, go over any curvature the 'away' observer claims to see. If you claim that is a false assumption, then show a ship sailing from the 9 or 3 o'clock position go over a curvature, as you view it from the 6 or 12 o'clock position. Prove me wrong, don't make empty assertions you cannot support.
Like I said, you will see them going over curvature.
They will appear from behind the horizon and then sink below it.
The only way for them to appear to travel straight along the horizon is if they were going in a circle along you.