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SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« on: February 27, 2017, 03:09:04 PM »
SpaceX has announced that it will fly two private citizens on a trip around the moon in late 2018. The two people have paid a significant deposit and the cost is rumored to be around $35 million per person. The identities of the persons have not yet been revealed, although Musk says "nobody from Hollywood."
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2017, 03:50:40 PM »
This is gonna happen, just like all those other times ::)
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2017, 04:15:43 PM »
In 2018 I'm gonna do loads of super cool shit. Tons.

Just watch, I have funding, and not from Bollywood.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2017, 04:19:26 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on February 27, 2017, 03:50:40 PM
This is gonna happen, just like all those other times ::)

Name one
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 04:39:22 PM »
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: disputeone on February 27, 2017, 03:50:40 PM
This is gonna happen, just like all those other times ::)

Name one

I was only a boy when we were promised civilian space flight, I have been very disappointed it hasn't happened yet.

If it does I will be impressed.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2017, 04:53:18 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on February 27, 2017, 04:39:22 PM
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Quote from: disputeone on February 27, 2017, 03:50:40 PM
This is gonna happen, just like all those other times ::)

Name one

I was only a boy when we were promised civilian space flight, I have been very disappointed it hasn't happened yet.

If it does I will be impressed.
I was not alive.

As far as I know, you got a vague promise. None have been as specific and so near as this one.

I agree that far off promises don't seem to hold up. There is something uplifting about a promise of next year rather than 20 years from now, however.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 05:04:23 PM »
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
The identities of the persons have not yet been revealed,

I can wait for the obituaries.


What ever happened with flying cars?
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2017, 05:14:41 PM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 27, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
The identities of the persons have not yet been revealed,

I can wait for the obituaries.


What ever happened with flying cars?

http://mashable.com/2017/02/16/taxi-dubai-passenger-drones/#IF7LEpNcumqF
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2017, 05:55:30 PM »
Also, if anyone wants to say this has been promised before, you're wrong.

Other space tourists have gone on government-built rockets. Space Adventures, out of Virginia, bills itself as a private space exploration company, but all they do is connect private citizens with open-seats on government spacecrafts.

SpaceX is a privately-held company, building its own rockets and now taking money from private citizens to go to the moon.

Other private companies that have promised space-tourism (Virgin Galactic, Blue Origin) have only promised to get tourists to the edge of space on a private spacecraft. This is leaps and bounds bigger than those previous promises.

Supposedly, Space Adventures was selling tickets for a moon-shot on a Russian rocket for $150 million a seat; they sold one. Still, promising a ride on someone else's rocket is a weak promise in my book. I'm very excited for this moon rendezvous and there will be plenty of milestones to celebrate in the next 1-1/2 years.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2017, 05:55:55 PM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 27, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
The identities of the persons have not yet been revealed,

I can wait for the obituaries.


What ever happened with flying cars?

I'm showing my age a bit...but when I was a kid we were promised personal jetpacks, flying cars and a machine that would make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the touch of a button.  All I got so far is a wife who could make me a sandwich but my kid has peanut allergies.  Still waiting for everything else.  I did get my Tricorder though.  Pretty sure the one Spock used was a Samsung.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2017, 06:02:03 PM »
Quote from: Antirockballtheorist on February 27, 2017, 04:15:43 PM
In 2018 I'm gonna do loads of super cool shit. Tons.

Just watch, I have funding, and not from Bollywood.
I'm the expert on gunnadoo, plenty of practice been doing it all my life!

And we genuinely have a "town" Gunnadoo, at Mullion Creek NSW 2800. Now that would be the place to live.

But, I'm curious as to who promised civilian space travel, other than Richard Branson.
Many people, like politicians and entrepreneurs hoping to make a buck, promise things they know they can't deliver.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2017, 06:04:34 PM »
Quote from: PawnedScum on February 27, 2017, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 27, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
The identities of the persons have not yet been revealed,

I can wait for the obituaries.


What ever happened with flying cars?

I'm showing my age a bit...but when I was a kid we were promised personal jetpacks, flying cars and a machine that would make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the touch of a button.  All I got so far is a wife who could make me a sandwich but my kid has peanut allergies.  Still waiting for everything else.  I did get my Tricorder though.  Pretty sure the one Spock used was a Samsung.
Seriously, who was promising this? I always think people were creating this "promise" by just reading too much into sci-fi books that took place 40 years in the future, but the way you say it sounds like you were actually made a promise?
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 06:14:34 PM »
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
Quote from: PawnedScum on February 27, 2017, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 27, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
The identities of the persons have not yet been revealed,

I can wait for the obituaries.


What ever happened with flying cars?

I'm showing my age a bit...but when I was a kid we were promised personal jetpacks, flying cars and a machine that would make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the touch of a button.  All I got so far is a wife who could make me a sandwich but my kid has peanut allergies.  Still waiting for everything else.  I did get my Tricorder though.  Pretty sure the one Spock used was a Samsung.
Seriously, who was promising this? I always think people were creating this "promise" by just reading too much into sci-fi books that took place 40 years in the future, but the way you say it sounds like you were actually made a promise?

It was tongue in cheek, FlatOrange. Lighten up.

As we were growing up in the sixties and seventies there were all kinds of pseudo-documentaries that tried to guess what the city of tomorrow would look like.  The word promised was the tongue in cheek part.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2017, 06:16:07 PM »
hahaha, . . . Read this in your best 1950's announcer voice . . .

"In the GE kitchen of the future, mom will have all of her favorite recipes available on an ELECTRIC Rolodex, saving her valuable time she can spend darning her husband's socks."
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2017, 06:30:30 PM »
Quote from: PawnedScum on February 27, 2017, 05:55:55 PM
I'm showing my age a bit...but when I was a kid we were promised personal jetpacks, flying cars and a machine that would make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the touch of a button.
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Likewise, except here it's Peanut Paste and Honey.

But where did all these promises come from? Not in "scientific magazines" like Popular Mechanics by any chance - or am I going back a few too many decades?
Yes, Popular Mechanics was very interesting but hardly the ultimate scientific authority.

But, sometimes :P experts, as I thought myself[1] :P do get it wrong.
I saw in Radio and Hobbies that these little solid-state thingos made from flue dust were going to replace the vacuum tube.
I knew that was impossible, the was no way of controlling electron flow, other than in a vacuum!
It sort of turned out that I was "a bit wrong" - and all these transistors started turning up.

I've learned a little since then, enough to realise that maybe I'm such an expert after all.

PS  I wish it was only sometimes that I got things wrong, but that's life!
       And I was told that in expert "The ex is the unknown you're trying to find and the spurt is the little drip under pressure."

[1] You know, when I was young enough to  ;D know that I knew everything.  ;D But, this is a very "educational" website, it encourages so much research into "why"!
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2017, 06:57:25 PM »
Quote from: PawnedScum on February 27, 2017, 06:14:34 PM
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
Quote from: PawnedScum on February 27, 2017, 05:55:55 PM
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Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
The identities of the persons have not yet been revealed,

I can wait for the obituaries.


What ever happened with flying cars?

I'm showing my age a bit...but when I was a kid we were promised personal jetpacks, flying cars and a machine that would make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the touch of a button.  All I got so far is a wife who could make me a sandwich but my kid has peanut allergies.  Still waiting for everything else.  I did get my Tricorder though.  Pretty sure the one Spock used was a Samsung.
Seriously, who was promising this? I always think people were creating this "promise" by just reading too much into sci-fi books that took place 40 years in the future, but the way you say it sounds like you were actually made a promise?

It was tongue in cheek, FlatOrange. Lighten up.

As we were growing up in the sixties and seventies there were all kinds of pseudo-documentaries that tried to guess what the city of tomorrow would look like.  The word promised was the tongue in cheek part.
Sorry about that. I did get a little worked up :P
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2017, 07:18:27 PM »
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 06:57:25 PM
Sorry about that. I did get a little worked up :P

All good.  Growing up it was very easy for me to be thrilled by the possibilities.  I was glued to the set when the moon expeditions were televised (or faked which ever way you lean).  It was easy for us to think that anything was possible and we all hoped that great things would happen at any moment.

It turns out they did.  If you would have asked me then if I would have thought my ten year old son of the future would have five devices in his room that were connected to the internet I would have said "What's the internet?"
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2017, 07:25:03 PM »
Quote from: rabinoz on February 27, 2017, 06:30:30 PM
Quote from: PawnedScum on February 27, 2017, 05:55:55 PM
I'm showing my age a bit...but when I was a kid we were promised personal jetpacks, flying cars and a machine that would make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the touch of a button.
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Likewise, except here it's Peanut Paste and Honey.
I thought you all ate vegemite? I read a lot of essays in Reader's Digest where people would 'predict' the future world.  I also remember boring, twenty minute, reel to reel movies in school about science breakthrough and extrapolation into what the future held.  It was everywhere as things were changing so rapidly from just a decade or more before.  It's almost sad that taking two private citizens on a lap of the moon doesn't get us fired up as much as it probably should because we have grown so accustomed to just expecting the impossible.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2017, 07:38:44 PM »
Quote from: rabinoz on February 27, 2017, 06:30:30 PM
But, this is a very "educational" website, it encourages so much research into "why"!

This, is the first hint I have seen that Rab is starting to get this website.

Bravo indeed Rab.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2017, 09:15:44 PM »
Quote from: PawnedScum on February 27, 2017, 07:25:03 PM
Quote from: rabinoz on February 27, 2017, 06:30:30 PM
Quote from: PawnedScum on February 27, 2017, 05:55:55 PM
I'm showing my age a bit...but when I was a kid we were promised personal jetpacks, flying cars and a machine that would make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the touch of a button.
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Likewise, except here it's Peanut Paste and Honey.
I thought you all ate vegemite?
Kids do, ours did, we have some in the pantry, luckily it has a long shelf life, probably no self-respecting bugs will touch it!
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I read a lot of essays in Reader's Digest where people would 'predict' the future world.  I also remember boring, twenty minute, reel to reel movies in school about science breakthrough and extrapolation into what the future held. 
I find so many of these predictions quite amusing. Sometimes science fiction writers get it "accidentally" more correct.
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It was everywhere as things were changing so rapidly from just a decade or more before.  It's almost sad that taking two private citizens on a lap of the moon doesn't get us fired up as much as it probably should because we have grown so accustomed to just expecting the impossible.
Yet so many complain when the "impossible" doesn't happen.
So many are no more than useless armchair critics, who have no idea how to do any of these things themselves, yet bitch when it doesn't happen.
And they complain about science or NASA being wrong, when these prediction often come from the media or "popular science writers".

Then we have those (no names, no pack drill) who can't understand how something can be done, so claim it can't be done.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2017, 11:08:26 PM »
SpaceX have already done the difficult bit many times - getting off the rock, the rest is just a question of pointing in the right direction and having reliable equipment. All that's been needed since Apollo was cancelled is money, so if Musk wants to provide that then hell let's do it.

I suspect they will spent 4 or 5 days getting to the moon and back and the rest of their lives dealing with idiots telling them they didn't
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2017, 02:30:31 AM »
Space x have all the equipment in place already or being tested this year. It's not some random person promising things 20nyears in the future. Contracts have been signed, deposits paid and flight hardware almost ready and being tested this year. And they bauble said they can provide a couple of flights a year If people come forward for it.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2017, 02:49:35 AM »
You can bet on it!

New "starwars" series will be started. Give me 36 million dollars and I'll back you 35 millions of them so I can say I gone to the space by getting 1 million dollar. Cleverly.

So what will on now?  :P
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2017, 04:00:00 AM »
Quote from: İntikam on February 28, 2017, 02:49:35 AM
New "starwars" series will be started. Give me 36 million dollars and I'll back you 35 millions of them so I can say I gone to the space by getting 1 million dollar. Cleverly.
Wise words İntikam, wise words indeed.

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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2017, 05:33:33 AM »
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I read a lot of essays in Reader's Digest where people would 'predict' the future world.  I also remember boring, twenty minute, reel to reel movies in school about science breakthrough and extrapolation into what the future held.
I find so many of these predictions quite amusing. Sometimes science fiction writers get it "accidentally" more correct.
I don't think that science fiction writers "accidentally" get it right so much as some fans of science fiction grow up to be scientists and engineers and work to make science fiction a reality.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2017, 01:07:33 PM »
Haha, I saw this on Twitter this morning. This is quite a specific promise!!
It was before I was born
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2017, 01:28:02 PM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 27, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 27, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
The identities of the persons have not yet been revealed,

I can wait for the obituaries.


Which begs the question.  Does it count if things don't quite go as well as they hoped and they end up flying a few corpses around the moon?

I think SpaceX is doing some great work.  But I'm definitely waiting until they've gone a few years without a rocket exploding before I start thinking Musk's optimism is reasonable.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2017, 01:57:24 PM »
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 28, 2017, 01:07:33 PM
Haha, I saw this on Twitter this morning. This is quite a specific promise!!
It was before I was born


Yeah, promised by Cheerios though. I'm not sure that counts...
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2017, 02:02:46 PM »
Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 28, 2017, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 28, 2017, 01:07:33 PM
Haha, I saw this on Twitter this morning. This is quite a specific promise!!
It was before I was born


Yeah, promised by Cheerios though. I'm not sure that counts...

Now if it had been on a Wheaties box...then we might have a case.
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Re: SpaceX to fly 2 private citizens around the moon in 2018
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2017, 04:19:24 PM »
Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 28, 2017, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: FlatOrange on February 28, 2017, 01:07:33 PM
Haha, I saw this on Twitter this morning. This is quite a specific promise!!
It was before I was born


Yeah, promised by Cheerios though. I'm not sure that counts...

It shows the historical establishment imposed mass assumption of impending space travel, and activity, including colonization and long term habitats in space.
And of course the moon.
And mars.
Been years away for decades now.
A generation away for centuries.
Going to heaven.
Travel into the heavens.
A story as old as stories.

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