Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)

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sceptimatic

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2017, 04:48:23 AM »
There's a very good reason why very few planes crash and why it's 99.9% safe at altitude for the plane.
It has nothing to do with just flying through so called thin air.

Anyone that's been on a jet plane will understand what's going on if they seriously think about it.
A little clue is in the very slight tilt of the plane. Anyone notice this?

Is it "tilt up"?

The more velocity the more higher.
When you are sat on a bus on a flat surface you feel fairly level, right?
When you are flying in a jet you never feel level. The planes nose is always tilted up very slightly in flight under cruise at achieved height.

It never fully levels out and here's why.
Have you ever been on a speedboat?
For that speed boat to stay afloat at speed it has to slightly raise out of the water to skim that water whilst the engines power through it.

The plane is a boat with wings.
It skims off the atmosphere below because it's past equilibrium of it above, meaning the atmosphere does not create and equal push against it as the resistance under it.

This is why planes do not just fall out of the air and why they are fuel sufficient at high altitudes and why their engines can work...because they follow the stream.
Get in your canoe and follow the stream.

This is why jets are at their most vulnerable on take off and landing, because they are basically using full thrust to dive or raise from the deep...like a submarine trying to raise from the deep using it's propellers, or diving it.

Only a flat Earth can allow jets to fly like this under the fuel load they have.
Planes are like sail boats with an engine at altitude.
They follow the swirl (stream).
They pick the best routes around the Earth's circle so they can play the speedboat surf.
You know water skiing?
That's what planes are doing at altitude,


This is why you feel like you're skimming the water when you're in a plane and also why you hit turbulence.
It's like hitting a rogue wave every now and then.

Have a real good thing about it.

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frenat

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2017, 07:26:26 AM »
IF there is problems in achieving someting better, there are two options to do:

1. Make excuses n stick to the existing way.
2. Try to seek break through by free thinking n always questioning things implemented so far.

Now air resistance problem is over n then shifted into economy stuff.

What? Wait a minute... Hmm...
Nobody shifted. Air resistance causes the problems with economy.  no excuses have been made.  You've been provided with facts but YOU chose not to listen.  Meanwhile you've presented nothing to back up your side.

Scroll up.
To see you fail again?  Saw it once, laughed, moved on.  Are you going to ever present any evidence for your nonsense theory?

UA in aerodinamic is a break through for traditional theory.
An aeroplane flies not only due to wings. It's entire of underneath airplane that contribute for a lift. Bernoulli's principle is over.
And you further prove you have no idea what you're talking about.

Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #62 on: December 24, 2017, 12:24:10 PM »
When you are sat on a bus on a flat surface you feel fairly level, right?
When you are flying in a jet you never feel level. The planes nose is always tilted up very slightly in flight under cruise at achieved height.
Again, HOW IS THIS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION AT HAND?

Secondly, do you have any proof of this or is it just another of your delusional, BS, claims?

It never fully levels out and here's why.
Have you ever been on a speedboat?
For that speed boat to stay afloat at speed it has to slightly raise out of the water to skim that water whilst the engines power through it.
Which functions completely differently with planes.
Boats do this because to only skim 1 dense medium with a large resistance to motion while travelling mainly through a lower density medium with much less resistance.


The plane is a boat with wings.
No, that would be a flying boat. The boat part and the flying part function completely differently.

It skims off the atmosphere below because it's past equilibrium of it above, meaning the atmosphere does not create and equal push against it as the resistance under it.
So I was right, it is just your delusional bullshit.

Only a flat Earth can allow jets to fly like this under the fuel load they have.
Good thing they don't fly anything like that at all.
Also, I've pointed out that is pure bullshit, as your BS model works just as well on a round Earth.

Have a real good thing about it.
Or, how about you try and address the topic rather than spouting your delusional bullshit?
Deal with the topic or get lost.

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Danang

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #63 on: December 24, 2017, 07:46:32 PM »
There's a very good reason why very few planes crash and why it's 99.9% safe at altitude for the plane.
It has nothing to do with just flying through so called thin air.

Anyone that's been on a jet plane will understand what's going on if they seriously think about it.
A little clue is in the very slight tilt of the plane. Anyone notice this?

Is it "tilt up"?

The more velocity the more higher.
When you are sat on a bus on a flat surface you feel fairly level, right?
When you are flying in a jet you never feel level. The planes nose is always tilted up very slightly in flight under cruise at achieved height.

It never fully levels out and here's why.
Have you ever been on a speedboat?
For that speed boat to stay afloat at speed it has to slightly raise out of the water to skim that water whilst the engines power through it.

The plane is a boat with wings.
It skims off the atmosphere below because it's past equilibrium of it above, meaning the atmosphere does not create and equal push against it as the resistance under it.

This is why planes do not just fall out of the air and why they are fuel sufficient at high altitudes and why their engines can work...because they follow the stream.
Get in your canoe and follow the stream.

This is why jets are at their most vulnerable on take off and landing, because they are basically using full thrust to dive or raise from the deep...like a submarine trying to raise from the deep using it's propellers, or diving it.

Only a flat Earth can allow jets to fly like this under the fuel load they have.
Planes are like sail boats with an engine at altitude.
They follow the swirl (stream).
They pick the best routes around the Earth's circle so they can play the speedboat surf.
You know water skiing?
That's what planes are doing at altitude,


This is why you feel like you're skimming the water when you're in a plane and also why you hit turbulence.
It's like hitting a rogue wave every now and then.

Have a real good thing about it.

4 important factors to consider in aerodinamics:
1. Universal Acceleration: ascending earth, ascending air.
2. Density reality.
3. Rotating earth by 360 degrees per day (while the sun goes twice: 2x360). Both are CCW..
4. Closed system.

It's like a reverse pool accelerating upwards.

Stationary earth and globe open system won't work.
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Danang

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #64 on: December 24, 2017, 07:52:47 PM »
The air for breathing is still there everywhere, not left away.

(And... of course RET will mention 'gravity' again)  :P
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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #65 on: December 25, 2017, 02:08:17 AM »
4 important factors to consider in aerodinamics:
You mean 4 piles of bullshit?

1. Universal Acceleration: ascending earth, ascending air.
Nope. There is no UA, there is no ascending Earth.
However, you can have ascending air in the form of thermals.

2. Density reality.
Yes, reality, not your delusional nonsense.

3. Rotating earth by 360 degrees per day (while the sun goes twice: 2x360). Both are CCW..
Not really. The effects are so minimal it can be ignored.

4. Closed system.
Nope. In order to consider it as a closed system they would need to include the entire universe. It is fine to model it as an open system with air coming in.

Stationary earth and globe open system won't work.
Except you have been completely unable to show any problem with the globe.

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #66 on: December 27, 2017, 03:06:24 AM »
Keep on with your dream, Jack  8)

Oh oh what did you said a week ago?

About 'archaic fuel', there is ancient Javanese technology to replace any fuel. Governments have complicated way of thinking. Some private companies is another story.
Our figure is Herman Sinung Janutama.
He is a phycisist with great interest on ancient history in all aspects including technology.
He helped extinguish nuclear burn in Japan (including Chenobyl too if I'm not mistaken).

As to how to make a fast aircraft... hm... should I reveal my design??
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Danang

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2017, 03:08:18 AM »
Toyota perhaps will release non fuel cars after Herman's advice.
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Bullwinkle

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2017, 03:24:24 AM »

About 'archaic fuel', there is ancient Javanese technology to replace any fuel.


. . . with crab testicles.




As to how to make a fast aircraft... hm... should I reveal my design??


Glue?

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Danang

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2017, 03:34:10 AM »

About 'archaic fuel', there is ancient Javanese technology to replace any fuel.


. . . with crab testicles.




As to how to make a fast aircraft... hm... should I reveal my design??


Glue?

Of course not. Saturnian engineers will be take responsibility of this project ~
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Danang

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #70 on: December 27, 2017, 03:36:18 AM »
By the way how dumb people that discredited Saturn: The most beautiful star...

HisStory... HisStory...
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Bullwinkle

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #71 on: December 27, 2017, 03:49:18 AM »
HisTerectomy HisTeria HisBola


any fool can do this.


Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #72 on: December 27, 2017, 12:39:39 PM »
Keep on with your dream, Jack  8)
You are the one that seems to be dreaming, not me.
I'll stick with reality.

About 'archaic fuel', there is ancient Javanese technology to replace any fuel. Governments have complicated way of thinking. Some private companies is another story.
Our figure is Herman Sinung Janutama.
He is a phycisist with great interest on ancient history in all aspects including technology.
He helped extinguish nuclear burn in Japan (including Chenobyl too if I'm not mistaken).
And there you go baselessly claiming there is some magic alternative to fuel, yet not providing it at all.
While you keep up these baseless claims I will keep dismissing them as delusional bullshit.

And as far as I can tell Herman Sinung Janutama discusses/preaches religion, not physics.
Do you have his ORCID, or a link to a university website showing him?

As to how to make a fast aircraft... hm... should I reveal my design??
Yes.
Make sure it includes how it deals with the aerodynamics and economy issues.

The most beautiful star...
Saturn is a planet not a star.

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Danang

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #73 on: January 01, 2018, 05:46:16 PM »
Keep on with your dream, Jack  8)
You are the one that seems to be dreaming, not me.
I'll stick with reality.

About 'archaic fuel', there is ancient Javanese technology to replace any fuel. Governments have complicated way of thinking. Some private companies is another story.
Our figure is Herman Sinung Janutama.
He is a phycisist with great interest on ancient history in all aspects including technology.
He helped extinguish nuclear burn in Japan (including Chenobyl too if I'm not mistaken).
And there you go baselessly claiming there is some magic alternative to fuel, yet not providing it at all.
While you keep up these baseless claims I will keep dismissing them as delusional bullshit.

And as far as I can tell Herman Sinung Janutama discusses/preaches religion, not physics.
Do you have his ORCID, or a link to a university website showing him?

As to how to make a fast aircraft... hm... should I reveal my design??
Yes.
Make sure it includes how it deals with the aerodynamics and economy issues.

The most beautiful star...
Saturn is a planet not a star.

- I prefer to call "star".

- Mr. Herman's activity is not all reported in news. Perhaps no media has cover his activity except Youtube TV. He is abandoned in home country. He said even though many Indonesians are leaders in world class companies, they are forbidden to accept Noble Prize.
As a Saturnian, I feel sorry to hear this sad story about this nation.

- About aircraft design, too bad the requirements are so hard. (After 2017 the free design has been over).
There are 5 points of the requirements, among others:
1. FE believer.
2. Down payment of 10 Billion USD.  ;)
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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #74 on: January 02, 2018, 01:18:17 PM »
- I prefer to call "star".
I don't care.
Words have meanings, don't ignore them.
Saturn is a planet, not a star.

- Mr. Herman's activity is not all reported in news. Perhaps no media has cover his activity except Youtube TV. He is abandoned in home country. He said even though many Indonesians are leaders in world class companies, they are forbidden to accept Noble Prize.
Almost like he is a fake, with nothing to back him up.
How about you try and explain it here?
If you can't, stop claiming it exists.

As for the Nobel prize, that sounds more like an excuse as to why they haven't got them.
Do you have any proof of your claim?

- About aircraft design, too bad the requirements are so hard. (After 2017 the free design has been over).
i.e. you have no design, so waited and now came up with a pathetic excuse.

There are 5 points of the requirements, among others:
1. FE believer.
2. Down payment of 10 Billion USD.  ;)
That is only 2, and that sure seems like you are just trying to scam people out of money, and a lot of it.

Either provide your magic design, or stop claiming it exists.

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Danang

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2018, 12:16:16 AM »
- I prefer to call "star".
I don't care.
Words have meanings, don't ignore them.
Saturn is a planet, not a star.

- Mr. Herman's activity is not all reported in news. Perhaps no media has cover his activity except Youtube TV. He is abandoned in home country. He said even though many Indonesians are leaders in world class companies, they are forbidden to accept Noble Prize.
Almost like he is a fake, with nothing to back him up.
How about you try and explain it here?
If you can't, stop claiming it exists.

As for the Nobel prize, that sounds more like an excuse as to why they haven't got them.
Do you have any proof of your claim?

- About aircraft design, too bad the requirements are so hard. (After 2017 the free design has been over).
i.e. you have no design, so waited and now came up with a pathetic excuse.

There are 5 points of the requirements, among others:
1. FE believer.
2. Down payment of 10 Billion USD.  ;)
That is only 2, and that sure seems like you are just trying to scam people out of money, and a lot of it.

Either provide your magic design, or stop claiming it exists.

I understand if you don't monitor every happening on earth, even the most professional journalist cannot do it, right?

As to your misunderstanding over my post, that is not surprising.

>> *Impossible for RE people to respond AND *impossible for FE people to respond.

So why did I post such words?

Try again  ;D
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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2018, 02:47:02 AM »
As to your misunderstanding over my post, that is not surprising.
I'm not misunderstanding anthing.
You are blatantly lying about numerous things, making completley baseless claims and being completely unable to back them up with anything.

So why did I post such words?
There are many possible reason, you could be a pathetic troll that feels the need to screw with people to feel better about your own pathetic existence, you could have been conned by someone and are now too brainwashed to go back, you could just be really stupid, or you might be arrogant enough to think you are so smart and everyone else is stupid and would actually fall for your "offer".

Try again  ;D
You are the one repeatedly failing. I don't need to try again; you do.
Provide your magic aeroplane and fuel designs or you are effectively admitting to everyone that they are pure BS and you have been lying to everyone.

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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #77 on: January 03, 2018, 08:46:35 AM »
I won't reveal my designs anymore coz this is my future project.

Again, my free design giveaways is over. If I continue giving this free designs, I fear bad things will happen to them.

Why is it?? How come??

Try again  8)
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Re: Airplanes' Speed Could Be "Fake" :)
« Reply #78 on: January 03, 2018, 12:23:39 PM »
I won't reveal my designs anymore coz this is my future project.
Then stop claiming they exist, admit you were wrong, and move on.

Try again  8)
Again, you are the failure here, not me.