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What is the truth about the 911 attack on the World Trade Center?

Hijacked Planes were flown into the two towers.  Resulting fires caused the collapse.
14 (60.9%)
The planes were CGI and it was controlled demolition
2 (8.7%)
Something other than planes were flown into the twin towers,  missiles drones etc.
2 (8.7%)
The planes were holographic projections from a special satellite, and it was a directed energy weapon
1 (4.3%)
Something else.
3 (13%)
Denspressure
1 (4.3%)

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Voting closed: March 06, 2017, 10:56:40 PM

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5220 on: September 19, 2017, 05:40:02 AM »
Do you stand by your claim that the NIST model looks like the collapse?

Yes,  skip to 1:30 or thereabouts.



The video simulation you keep posting doesn't continue to the next stage,  but is accurate as far as it goes in the timeline.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5221 on: September 19, 2017, 05:43:37 AM »
Let me repeat..

I think Leroy Hulsey just shot himself in the foot.

Quote from: http://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7
The findings thus far are that fire did not bring down this building. Building failure simulations show that, to match observation, the entire inner core of this building failed nearly simultaneously.

The observations are that inner core didn't fail simultaneously, it failed progressively left to right,  so if his failure simulation shows simultaneous failure of the inner core. He's wrong.

Whoops.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5222 on: September 19, 2017, 05:43:53 AM »
There is a clear and distinct difference between the roofline and failing structure on the NIST model compared to reality.

You are lying to everyone on this site. You psychologically manipulate them with your buddies you project your disgust with yourself onto me.

Let's just consider the NIST model.
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Compared to reality.
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Do you stand by your claim that the NIST model looks like the collapse?
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5223 on: September 19, 2017, 05:46:01 AM »
Let me repeat..

I think Leroy Hulsey just shot himself in the foot.

Quote from: http://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7
The findings thus far are that fire did not bring down this building. Building failure simulations show that, to match observation, the entire inner core of this building failed nearly simultaneously.

The observations are that inner core didn't fail simultaneously, it failed progressively left to right,  so if his failure simulation shows simultaneous failure of the inner core. He's wrong.

Whoops.

Wtc 7 had at least 18 vertical support columns remaining at the point of the roof line collapse. That's just an unpleasant fact.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5224 on: September 19, 2017, 05:52:27 AM »
There is a clear and distinct difference between the roofline and failing structure on the NIST model compared to reality.

Not really.  The progression looks the same.

Do you stand by your claim that the NIST model looks like the collapse?
Yes,  do you stand by Leroy Hulsey's claim that the interior collapsed simultaneously?
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5225 on: September 19, 2017, 05:54:25 AM »
The inner core did fail nearly simultaneously. All video evidence confirms this.

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As soon as the main penthouse fails the whole building comes down. You are getting desperate mate.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5226 on: September 19, 2017, 06:00:11 AM »
See how I can be honest?
It's a really good feeling man.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5227 on: September 19, 2017, 06:08:40 AM »
As soon as the main penthouse fails the whole building comes down. You are getting desperate mate.

Agreed,  but the penthouse fails progressively left to right,  the whole inner core has gone by the time the penthouse completely collapses.

A number of videos confirm this by the fact that you can see daylight through the top windows,  it's not clear why you can't see it.   


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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5228 on: September 19, 2017, 06:10:30 AM »
See how I can be honest?
It's a really good feeling man.

You mean to say you aren't normally honest?    Oh, that's right you like to play games and deception tactics.  I forgot. 

Yes try being honest for a change,  you'll feel better.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5229 on: September 19, 2017, 06:12:02 AM »
We have the failure of column 79, this is not a core column. I'd actually think all three (79, 80, 81) collapsed when we saw the initial failure. Again. These are not core columns



Then, the entire core fails nearly simultaneously and causes a 2.25 second symmetrical free-fall.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5230 on: September 19, 2017, 06:20:55 AM »
We have the failure of column 79, this is not a core column. I'd actually think all three (79, 80, 81) collapsed when we saw the initial failure. Again. These are not core columns



Then, the entire core fails nearly simultaneously and causes a 2.25 second symmetrical free-fall.

[youtube][/youtube] @24

So many of you are going to jail.

Why did you choose a video that doesn't show the penthouse collapse progressively left to right.  Also you realize that for the penthouse to collapse, that everything underneath it has already collapsed.   All the internal structural support had gone by the time the facade started to buckle inward.



I think you chose that video dishonestly.   Why distort the truth.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5231 on: September 19, 2017, 06:24:33 AM »
You're projecting.

The ""left to right collapse"" of the interior of the core we saw was the failure of columns 79, 80, 81. These are not core columns



Then we see the entire core fail nearly simultaneously and the whole building collapse at or near free-fall. Your video is as good a reference as any.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5232 on: September 19, 2017, 06:35:46 AM »
The ""left to right collapse"" of the interior of the core we saw was the failure of columns 79, 80, 81. These are not core columns

Not true. it starts with columns 79,80,81, and then the collapse progresses all the way across,  the interior support has collapsed and is falling which appears to pull the facade inwards and it then buckles and the whole facade collapses down.  It's crystal clear on the video that the interior did not collapse simultaneously, as Hulsey claims.

Why are you choosing to lie about what is obvious to everyone on the video?


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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5233 on: September 19, 2017, 06:36:58 AM »
you realize that for the penthouse to collapse, that everything underneath it has already collapsed.   All the internal structural support had gone by the time the facade started to buckle inward.

Very much so, thats why we say the entire inner core collapsed nearly simultaneously.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5234 on: September 19, 2017, 06:39:31 AM »
The ""left to right collapse"" of the interior of the core we saw was the failure of columns 79, 80, 81. These are not core columns

Not true. it starts with columns 79,80,81, and then the collapse progresses all the way across,  the interior support has collapsed and is falling which appears to pull the facade inwards and it then buckles and the whole facade collapses down.  It's crystal clear on the video that the interior did not collapse simultaneously, as Hulsey claims.

Why are you choosing to lie about what is obvious to everyone on the video?

Because I am not lying. The left to right / east to west collapse of the penthouse was caused by the failure of column 79, 80, and 81 (not part of the core) happening a few seconds before the near simultaneous failure of the entire core causing the 2.25 second symmetrical free fall.

Check it.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5235 on: September 19, 2017, 06:47:11 AM »
The ""left to right collapse"" of the interior of the core we saw was the failure of columns 79, 80, 81. These are not core columns

Not true. it starts with columns 79,80,81, and then the collapse progresses all the way across,  the interior support has collapsed and is falling which appears to pull the facade inwards and it then buckles and the whole facade collapses down.  It's crystal clear on the video that the interior did not collapse simultaneously, as Hulsey claims.

Why are you choosing to lie about what is obvious to everyone on the video?

Because I am not lying. The left to right / east to west collapse of the penthouse was caused by the failure of column 79, 80, and 81 (not part of the core) happening a few seconds before the near simultaneous failure of the entire core causing the 2.25 second symmetrical free fall.

Check it.

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Now watch this again.  Tell me you still think the collapse was simultaneous.  Skip to 1:40 if you like



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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5236 on: September 19, 2017, 06:49:03 AM »
Your video is bogus. This is clear and concise logic, backed up by all video evidence.

The left to right / east to west collapse of the penthouse was caused by the failure of column 79, 80, and 81 (not part of the core)



Happening a few seconds before the near simultaneous failure of the entire core causing the 2.25 second symmetrical free fall.

Check it.

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« Reply #5237 on: September 19, 2017, 06:54:45 AM »
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5238 on: September 19, 2017, 07:00:38 AM »


That's far more likely for you than me. 

What are your expectations for Anon Metal Phase 6?   

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« Reply #5239 on: September 19, 2017, 07:01:38 AM »
I'm expecting to start seeing arrests.
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« Reply #5240 on: September 19, 2017, 07:08:18 AM »
I'm getting slightly erect thinking about what Trump might do with Hulseys report. It's a very powerful weapon against nearly all of his enemies. Like you say, the man looks out for himself.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5241 on: September 19, 2017, 07:11:37 AM »
I'm expecting to start seeing arrests.

LOL,  Let's revisit that next year, and see who gets arrested.   
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5242 on: September 19, 2017, 07:15:15 AM »
Show us you aren't an intelligence asset and show us where I am wrong.

I won the debate with my first post. Honestly, I'm just seeing how much I can make you lie now.

Your video is bogus. This is clear and concise logic, backed up by all video evidence.

The left to right / east to west collapse of the penthouse was caused by the failure of column 79, 80, and 81 (not part of the core)



Happening a few seconds before the near simultaneous failure of the entire core causing the 2.25 second symmetrical free fall.

Check it.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5243 on: September 19, 2017, 07:18:19 AM »
I'm getting slightly erect thinking about what Trump might do with Hulseys report. It's a very powerful weapon against nearly all of his enemies. Like you say, the man looks out for himself.

Sleep tight, Rayzor.

Trump is dirty, and his presidency will end badly. 

As far as Hulsey and the AE911truthers go  I'd be surprised if even the Trump administration would stoop so low as to dirty their hands dealing with conspiracy nutters.

Sorry.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5244 on: September 19, 2017, 07:20:46 AM »
Let's just consider for a moment who Trumps greatest enemies are, it's the deep state / fake news media and the intelligence agencies / shadow governemt.

Now let's give this wildcard a weapon based on sound physics that could take down all his enemies and quite literally drain the swamp in one foul swoop.

The enemy of my enemy is far more useful than my enemy.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5245 on: September 19, 2017, 07:24:10 AM »
Let's just consider for a moment who Trumps greatest enemies are, it's the deep state / fake news media and the intelligence agencies / shadow governemt.

Now let's give this wildcard a weapon based on sound physics that could take down all his enemies and quite literally drain the swamp in one foul swoop.

The enemy of my enemy is far more useful than my enemy.

Sleep tight Rayzor.

Trumps greatest enemy is the truth.   Well,  apart from himself that is. 
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5246 on: September 19, 2017, 07:26:40 AM »
Dammit Rayzor, you beat me to the punch. If we suppose the Hulsey report is true, giving it to Trump would be like giving silver to a vampire.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5247 on: September 19, 2017, 07:38:35 AM »
Dammit Rayzor, you beat me to the punch. If we suppose the Hulsey report is true, giving it to Trump would be like giving silver to a vampire.

I disagree. Lets keep that assumption then, our other option would be giving it to someone who very likely has more than a finger in the pie.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5248 on: September 19, 2017, 07:46:54 AM »
Dammit Rayzor, you beat me to the punch. If we suppose the Hulsey report is true, giving it to Trump would be like giving silver to a vampire.

LOL,  there's a new TV series idea,  the Trump version of the twilight zone.   Could be a hit, with Trump judging apprentice vampires.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5249 on: September 19, 2017, 07:49:14 AM »
I think Duck might be off doing his own research. We might have caught his interest.
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