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What is the truth about the 911 attack on the World Trade Center?

Hijacked Planes were flown into the two towers.  Resulting fires caused the collapse.
14 (60.9%)
The planes were CGI and it was controlled demolition
2 (8.7%)
Something other than planes were flown into the twin towers,  missiles drones etc.
2 (8.7%)
The planes were holographic projections from a special satellite, and it was a directed energy weapon
1 (4.3%)
Something else.
3 (13%)
Denspressure
1 (4.3%)

Total Members Voted: 23

Voting closed: March 06, 2017, 10:56:40 PM

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4560 on: June 27, 2017, 03:03:04 AM »
That's fine man I respect your opinion and am happy to agree to disagree.

I hope I might have piqued maybe just a bit of your curiosity to learn a little more, you seem very bright from your posts.

Your manipulating skills are so low level; way to obvious. Long way to go there, bro.

Heres your (you)

Thanks for quoting the whole post. So you think I am trying to manipulate him to
learn a little more
that is quite a nefarious deed I must admit. I certainly hope I didn't "manipulate" you DNO, my humble apologies.

If you are wondering why I am more polite it's because he's not an arrogant blowhard. Please control your hate boner for me.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4561 on: June 27, 2017, 03:49:17 AM »
Haha I don't feel particularly "manipulated", but I'm outta here before all the drama starts  ;D
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4562 on: June 27, 2017, 03:51:05 AM »
Haha I don't feel particularly "manipulated", but I'm outta here before all the drama starts  ;D

You already stirred the pot sunshine.

Plus ignore user for obvious reasons
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4563 on: June 27, 2017, 04:02:16 AM »
You already stirred the pot sunshine.


Can I unstir it somehow?
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4564 on: June 27, 2017, 04:06:59 AM »
Haha I don't feel particularly "manipulated", but I'm outta here before all the drama starts  ;D
Drama is the only reason for this thread's existance.

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Thanks for quoting the whole post. So you think I am trying to manipulate him to
So, you're trying to tell me your effort of manipulation wasn't even conscious? Makes it even worse to be honest.


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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4565 on: July 02, 2017, 08:23:49 PM »
Quick bump. If you have a spare 30 minutes please watch it.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4566 on: July 03, 2017, 09:36:07 AM »
If it is ever shown to the public that there really was a govt conspiracy to make it look like terrorists did 9/11, what then?  What do you think will change because of it?

It usually takes many years for the govt to release classified information, like 50yrs sometimes, by then most people who were involved are dead or near to death. The people alive don't even care about whatever happened anymore.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4567 on: July 03, 2017, 01:25:33 PM »
If it is ever shown to the public that there really was a govt conspiracy to make it look like terrorists did 9/11, what then?  What do you think will change because of it?

It usually takes many years for the govt to release classified information, like 50yrs sometimes, by then most people who were involved are dead or near to death. The people alive don't even care about whatever happened anymore.

You are correct cowgirl on both parts. This is why I fought so hard in the beginning knowing the timeline was finite. That's like discovering the truth about JFK's assassination now...really what would it change...nothing..

I don't want the same destiny for 9/11...because we are talking about multiple countries destabilised, millions dead, and countless others millions lives destroyed on a lie. However, you are right, the clock is ticking.

I have considered making one more pass at it seriously and seeing what happens...however the other side of me simply says "no one will care". Most of the newer generation doesn't even care enough one way or another because they are trained narcissist.

Then you have the idiotic blowhards that pretend to know something, yet in reality they are just quoting their TV and have zero real understanding.

Sadly the narcissist group is becoming the majority, then second place the idiots. That is almost impossible conditioning to fight, no matter how sound your evidence is or how well qualified you are to speak for it.


Then finally I have always thought to myself "if I had the ultimate chance to out everything would I"...what would be the consequences world wide? Do you think the rest of the world would take the fact we killed millions and destroyed countries on a complete fabrication laying down?? I don't think they would...I think the repercussions could be devastating.

Very devastating

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4568 on: July 03, 2017, 01:28:25 PM »
Most of the newer generation doesn't even care enough one way or another because they are trained narcissist.

"GET OFF MY LAWN!"
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4569 on: July 03, 2017, 01:52:15 PM »
Quick bump. If you have a spare 30 minutes please watch it.
No I don't, but thanks for the proposal.

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Most of the newer generation doesn't even care enough one way or another because they are trained narcissist.
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contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4570 on: July 03, 2017, 02:35:46 PM »
Then you have the idiotic blowhards that pretend to know something, yet in reality they are just quoting their TV and have zero real understanding.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4571 on: July 03, 2017, 03:47:01 PM »
Thou hath summoned me?

Hey sexy  :-* welcome back to the 9/11 thread haus, been a while.

Get tired of arguing politics?
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« Reply #4572 on: July 03, 2017, 03:58:01 PM »
Most of the newer generation doesn't even care enough one way or another because they are trained narcissist.

"GET OFF MY LAWN!"

I am glad that phrase exists in your country as well, quite humorous.

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
- Socrates, ~400bc


Yep, and they were right. Humanity corrupts in phases, then sometimes takes a step forward, then backwards etc etc.

However..

Never in history have we had the variables present we have today. There was always a barrier before technology, then the correct ideas would have the chance to rebound and stomp the bad ideas and mentalities.

Now, a bad mentality, ideas etc can literally attack the whole planet... Being a blind follower is already dangerous enough, but a narcissistic blind follower??? That is as dangerous as you can get.

Control is beyond easy for such a person, as well as they would never attack an injustice for it would appear to not effect them.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4573 on: July 03, 2017, 04:15:24 PM »
If it is ever shown to the public that there really was a govt conspiracy to make it look like terrorists did 9/11, what then?  What do you think will change because of it?

It usually takes many years for the govt to release classified information, like 50yrs sometimes, by then most people who were involved are dead or near to death. The people alive don't even care about whatever happened anymore.

For people like you, nothing will ever change. It's painfully obvious you don't care for truth.

What convinved you the earth is flat?
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 04:16:58 PM by disputeone »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4574 on: July 03, 2017, 04:26:29 PM »
If it is ever shown to the public that there really was a govt conspiracy to make it look like terrorists did 9/11, what then?  What do you think will change because of it?

It usually takes many years for the govt to release classified information, like 50yrs sometimes, by then most people who were involved are dead or near to death. The people alive don't even care about whatever happened anymore.

For people like you, nothing will ever change. It's painfully obvious you don't care for truth.


Why do you take such offense? This was a real question. I suppose you really just want to fight with people now.

What do you honestly think will happen if a conspiracy is proven? Who will be the scapegoat? Will there be new laws? Will they get rid of the Patriot Act? Will they stop making people take off their shoes at airports?

I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4575 on: July 03, 2017, 04:31:29 PM »
It's not a real question, you are trying to convince people fighting for the truth is pointless.

Yes, I find it offensive.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4576 on: July 03, 2017, 04:35:10 PM »
Why do you take such offense? This was a real question. I suppose you really just want to fight with people now.

What do you honestly think will happen if a conspiracy is proven? Who will be the scapegoat? Will there be new laws? Will they get rid of the Patriot Act? Will they stop making people take off their shoes at airports?

I answered your question above in a relatively detailed fashion.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4577 on: July 03, 2017, 04:42:47 PM »
Thou hath summoned me?

Hey sexy  :-* welcome back to the 9/11 thread haus, been a while.

Get tired of arguing politics?

Nah. It's just been awhile since I've been called a literal TV. I think I am starting to suffer from withdrawal. There is an odd buzzing in my ears and I have this weird desire to keep my head tilted 30 degrees south, 12 degrees west.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4578 on: July 03, 2017, 04:43:45 PM »
BHS, you agreed with me that time is running out. You didn't say what you thought would change. That's what interests me. Will knowing the truth change anything in our life? For the better, I hope. So far in response to 9/11 we've had all the bullshit in the Patriot Act, which a lot of seems unconstitutional. The never ending wars in the ME.  All the stuff Snowden leaked (too much to list!).  If it is proven there was a conspiracy, will any of these things be fixed? Will we ever be free of the surveillance state, or at least have it cut back some?
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4579 on: July 03, 2017, 04:56:50 PM »
What do you honestly think will happen if a conspiracy is proven?

Last post.

We will have the truth.

That's enough for me.

Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth.

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« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 05:18:02 PM by disputeone »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4580 on: July 03, 2017, 05:28:28 PM »
BHS, you agreed with me that time is running out. You didn't say what you thought would change. That's what interests me. Will knowing the truth change anything in our life? For the better, I hope. So far in response to 9/11 we've had all the bullshit in the Patriot Act, which a lot of seems unconstitutional. The never ending wars in the ME.  All the stuff Snowden leaked (too much to list!).  If it is proven there was a conspiracy, will any of these things be fixed? Will we ever be free of the surveillance state, or at least have it cut back some?

I addressed it some here.


Then finally I have always thought to myself "if I had the ultimate chance to out everything would I"...what would be the consequences world wide? Do you think the rest of the world would take the fact we killed millions and destroyed countries on a complete fabrication laying down?? I don't think they would...I think the repercussions could be devastating.

Very devastating

On the home front, I am sure there would be changes if people cared enough and truly took the time to wrap their minds around the trillions and freedoms we were swindled out of.

However, I think the international backlash would make us forget about any changes here. At the minimum damaging sanctions, at the worst war. I personally feel it would be closer to the latter than the former.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4581 on: July 03, 2017, 05:35:40 PM »
http://israellobby.org/urbanmoving/1169683-001%20---%20303A-NY-C237934-Serial%20325%20---%20Section%201%20(1037758).pdf
(FOI request)

http://www.haaretz.com/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579
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Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Edit.

CNN and NBC reported wtc 7 as having collapsed before it did, they tried to take the videos down but they didn't count on internets.

[Open]
[Open]

Lucky Larry Silverstein said they "pulled" wtc 7.


Emergency services were told that wtc 7 would collapse although no steel framed high rise has ever collapsed due to fire.

This is the explosion heard by firefighters.
[Open]

Here is a finite element analysis made by three PhD Structural Engineers showing that fires couldn't have brought down wtc 7.

http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/
[Open]

Here is NIST admitting they can't / won't explain how wtc 7 fell in the interests of """public safety."""



Here is a related FOI request.
https://archive.org/stream/NIST_WTC7_FOIA_11-209/NIST_WTC7_FOIA_11-209/100511rhb%20FOIA%2011-209_djvu.txt

9/11 was a CIA / Mossad false flag.
Seriously what's left to "prove?"
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 07:30:35 PM by disputeone »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4582 on: July 03, 2017, 07:23:15 PM »
Whoops did I break the thread?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4583 on: July 04, 2017, 02:10:23 AM »
Yep, and they were right. Humanity corrupts in phases, then sometimes takes a step forward, then backwards etc etc.

However..

Never in history have we had the variables present we have today. There was always a barrier before technology, then the correct ideas would have the chance to rebound and stomp the bad ideas and mentalities.

Now, a bad mentality, ideas etc can literally attack the whole planet... Being a blind follower is already dangerous enough, but a narcissistic blind follower??? That is as dangerous as you can get.

Control is beyond easy for such a person, as well as they would never attack an injustice for it would appear to not effect them.
I already knew you were a crazy madman, but this tops it once again.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4584 on: July 04, 2017, 02:19:23 AM »
Most of the newer generation doesn't even care enough one way or another because they are trained narcissist.

"GET OFF MY LAWN!"

I am glad that phrase exists in your country as well, quite humorous.


Sadly, it doesn't. Fyge apo to grasidi mou doesn't sound very appealing!
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4585 on: July 04, 2017, 02:21:30 AM »

"crazy madman"

1. Are you serious?
2. Is that really the best you have?
3. Profit ? ? ? ?

Please see
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4586 on: July 04, 2017, 03:15:49 AM »

"crazy madman"

1. Are you serious?
2. Is that really the best you have?
3. Profit ? ? ? ?

Please see
Disputeone, talking like a 13 year old memer again.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4587 on: July 04, 2017, 03:23:48 AM »
Quote from: User
Please see
Disputeone, talking like a 13 year old memer again.

Great rebuttal, some of your best work.

Honestly with debunkers like user the truth movement may as well give up. He's sure got us on the ropes.

Wew lad.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 03:25:48 AM by disputeone »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4588 on: July 05, 2017, 02:56:18 AM »

"crazy madman"

1. Are you serious?
2. Is that really the best you have?
3. Profit ? ? ? ?

Please see
Disputeone, talking like a 13 year old memer again.

I'm going to suggest that your comment is probably closer to the real truth than anything dipstickone has posted on this thread.   He's got a 13 year old mind.   
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #4589 on: July 05, 2017, 03:19:37 AM »
Holy shit I literally summoned it.

Here is the post, for your convenience.

http://israellobby.org/urbanmoving/1169683-001%20---%20303A-NY-C237934-Serial%20325%20---%20Section%201%20(1037758).pdf
(FOI request)

http://www.haaretz.com/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579
Quote
Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Edit.

CNN and NBC reported wtc 7 as having collapsed before it did, they tried to take the videos down but they didn't count on internets.

[Open]
[Open]

Lucky Larry Silverstein said they "pulled" wtc 7.


Emergency services were told that wtc 7 would collapse although no steel framed high rise has ever collapsed due to fire.

This is the explosion heard by firefighters.
[Open]

Here is a finite element analysis made by three PhD Structural Engineers showing that fires couldn't have brought down wtc 7.

http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/
[Open]

Here is NIST admitting they can't / won't explain how wtc 7 fell in the interests of """public safety."""



Here is a related FOI request.
https://archive.org/stream/NIST_WTC7_FOIA_11-209/NIST_WTC7_FOIA_11-209/100511rhb%20FOIA%2011-209_djvu.txt

9/11 was a CIA / Mossad false flag.
Seriously what's left to "prove?"
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.