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What is the truth about the 911 attack on the World Trade Center?

Hijacked Planes were flown into the two towers.  Resulting fires caused the collapse.
14 (60.9%)
The planes were CGI and it was controlled demolition
2 (8.7%)
Something other than planes were flown into the twin towers,  missiles drones etc.
2 (8.7%)
The planes were holographic projections from a special satellite, and it was a directed energy weapon
1 (4.3%)
Something else.
3 (13%)
Denspressure
1 (4.3%)

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Voting closed: March 06, 2017, 10:56:40 PM

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5820 on: October 31, 2017, 07:02:56 PM »
7/10 shilling.

Please cite the post explaining why wtc 7 fell at free-fall.

If such a post exists and you are not lying.
Just cite it.t

Should be easy.

This question has been answered a great many times. 

Also the x/x thing, come on. You're better than that. It's getting old.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5821 on: October 31, 2017, 07:03:46 PM »
If you cannot cite what you claim please dont make the claim in the future.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5822 on: October 31, 2017, 07:05:31 PM »
This post debunks your assertion that the entire core collapsed leaving the outside intact and then the "outer facade" collapsing at free-fall.

Please read it and respond to it.
Here.
Can you debunk this post? If it's as stupid and I'm as stupid as you all claim surely a smart guy like you can debunk it.

No the video of the collapse shows the failure of columns 79, 80, and 81, causing a partial building collapse. (The collapse of the east penthouse.)

None of these were core columns and then after a few seconds, the entire core failed nearly simultaneously causing a 2.25 second symmetrical free-fall of the entire bulding. Remeber the "outer facade" had 18 structural support columns making any natural free-fall impossible.

@Rayzor.
You still haven't addressed your post trying to debunk Newton. Do you stand by it?

You seriously think I'm trying to debunk Newton?

I do, yes.

See.
We'll soon see about that.

Yes,  Hulsey's  simultaneous collapse theory.   What a joke.

In order for the building to collapse at free-fall the entire core had to fail nearly simultaneously. Structural resistance slows fall acceleration. If you don't like it take it up with Newton, not me.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Newt.html

Ah, I see where you went wrong,  you forgot that the center had already collapsed / was collapsing BEFORE the facade came down.  I really can't keep holding you hand while you work through these things, you have to start to think for yourself if you are going to be a good anon campaigner.

Thats not true that's the conclusions of the fraudulent NIST report. That is merely the lie we were sold.

Furthermore, even if the entire inner core collapsed leaving the entire "facade" intact (which is impossible because of the cross bracing) there were still 18 support columns around the exterior.



A free fall collapse even under your fairytale conditions is still impossible without a controlled demolition. You are trying to debunk Newton.

Q.E.D.


Edit.
Video evidence.
[Youtube][/youtube]

For reference Rayzor believes this debunks it. Notice he says it's "been debunked" since his first post on the topic.

We already debunked that free-fall argument.   But just to recap,  how is it possible for the rooftop of a building to fall?   Doesn't the fact that it collapsed at all mean that the building structure supporting the roof is collapsing,    why would you be surprised that it fell at a free fall rate.   At least until it hit ground and other debris piled up,   The graph in the NIST shows it quite clearly.   

You say you work in the industry,  you mean the building industry?   In what capacity?

What caused the core to collapse at free-fall


What caused the core to collapse at free-fall



Opposed to hovering in place?

Watch the video. When the west penthouse fails the building immediately collapses.

Video evidence.
[Youtube][/youtube]

When the west penthouse fails the building immediately collapses.

Gee, I wonder what was holding up the penthouse?

The core. Therefore as soon as the core failed the building came down. Hulsey is right.
Video evidence.
[Youtube][/youtube]

Unbalanced forces are a problem aren't they.

Please elaborate on what you mean by unbalanced forces. Using the information in your short post it's hard to understand your meaning.

http://study.com/academy/lesson/unbalanced-force-definition-example-quiz.html

Seems like you're on the right track, keep researching.

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Unbalanced forces are forces that cause a change in the motion of an object.

Very good.

Now this article shows us why a 2.25 second symmetrical free-fall of wtc 7 is impossible.

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Any push or pull is a force. To describe a force, you must know two things. You must know the size of the force and the direction of the force. Suppose two teams are playing tug of war. Each team is pulling with equal force, but in opposite directions. Neither team can make the other team move. Forces that are equal in size but opposite in direction are called balanced forces.

Newtons third does debunk the idea of a fire induced natural collapse of wtc 7, no doubt about that.

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If two forces are in opposite directions, then the net force is the difference between the two forces, and it is in the direction of the larger force. Consider two dogs playing tug of war with a short piece of rope. Each is exerting a force, but in opposite directions.

So we could look at gravitational potential energy, inertia and structural resistance to calculate the predicted fall acceleration of wtc 7 if the NIST conclusions were correct and the collapse was progressive starting with the failure of column 79 on floor 13.

Spoiler.
It isnt 2.25 seconds of very close to 9.8m/s2.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5823 on: November 01, 2017, 02:55:23 AM »
If you cannot cite what you claim please dont make the claim in the future.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5824 on: November 01, 2017, 05:51:25 AM »
If you cannot cite what you claim please dont make the claim in the future.

Thanks.
So, not allowed to express an opinion...ok, got it.

Not if it hurts d1's fee fees.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5825 on: November 01, 2017, 06:45:37 PM »
If you cannot cite what you claim please dont make the claim in the future.

Thanks.
So, not allowed to express an opinion...ok, got it.

He claimed that a poster said something that the poster didn't say.

He has had months to present the quote he claims exists.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5826 on: November 01, 2017, 08:12:33 PM »
After I was harrassed by symptom about it. This thread is about 9/11.

Specifically how the entire core of wtc 7 had to fail simultaneously to match observations which is incompatible with the NIST report.

You are correct in asserting the rules aren't enforced.

Lol, "harrassed".  ;D
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5827 on: November 01, 2017, 09:33:01 PM »
After I was harrassed by symptom about it. This thread is about 9/11.

Specifically how the entire core of wtc 7 had to fail simultaneously to match observations which is incompatible with the NIST report.

You are correct in asserting the rules aren't enforced.

Lol, "harrassed".  ;D

>what is asking the same question in every thread a user posts in regardless of the topic after they already answered?
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5828 on: November 01, 2017, 09:49:13 PM »
After I was harrassed by symptom about it. This thread is about 9/11.

Specifically how the entire core of wtc 7 had to fail simultaneously to match observations which is incompatible with the NIST report.

You are correct in asserting the rules aren't enforced.

Lol, "harrassed".  ;D

>what is asking the same question in every thread a user posts in regardless of the topic after they already answered?
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Gee, we have no idea how that feels.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5829 on: November 01, 2017, 09:53:27 PM »
It's all new to me
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5830 on: November 01, 2017, 10:42:49 PM »
If you cannot cite what you claim please dont make the claim in the future.

Thanks.

Us agree, one must present links and videos and links and links and videos and links and videos and links and links and links and videos and go bat shit insane claiming to be part of an after school nut job ensemble of retarted kids.


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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5831 on: November 01, 2017, 11:39:37 PM »
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5832 on: November 01, 2017, 11:56:18 PM »

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Didn't mention you, dumb ass.



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Didn't swear, dumb ass.



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911 was done by Saudi terrorists.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5833 on: November 02, 2017, 12:17:04 AM »
Wtc7 was a controlled demolition.
Maybe the Saudi terrorists planted the bombs in it? You never know.
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5834 on: November 02, 2017, 12:25:00 AM »
A decade of MMA.

How many times did you get kicked in the head?

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5835 on: November 02, 2017, 12:27:10 AM »
A fair few.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5837 on: November 02, 2017, 12:34:20 AM »
Yeah never bothered keeping count.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5838 on: November 02, 2017, 12:40:54 AM »

Yeah never bothered keeping count.


Estimate.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5839 on: November 02, 2017, 12:48:46 AM »
More times than you've had sex with a woman that wanted you.

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5840 on: November 02, 2017, 01:05:22 AM »

More times than you've had sex with a woman that wanted you.



You realize that leaves the possibility of an infinite number of kicks to your head, right?
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5841 on: November 02, 2017, 01:17:05 AM »
Impossible since you haven't lived an infinite amount of time.
How drunk are you?

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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5842 on: November 02, 2017, 01:20:26 AM »
Blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, blup, someone kick him upside the head and reboot him.

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« Reply #5843 on: November 02, 2017, 01:21:01 AM »
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5844 on: November 02, 2017, 01:49:59 AM »
Anonymous has lesions
Anonymous can't heal
Anonymous does not remember to forget
Anonymous hangs out at the Mall
Anonymous has internet access
Anonymous is gunna git you

Anonymous gets to stay up till 11:30


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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5845 on: November 02, 2017, 02:14:41 AM »
Turtles
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5847 on: November 02, 2017, 03:31:08 AM »
Beware the Turtles!
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5848 on: November 02, 2017, 05:28:05 AM »
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Re: 911 What is the truth?
« Reply #5849 on: November 02, 2017, 05:39:47 AM »
Beware the Turtles!

So they're the real terrorists!
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