If I do the math, if I do the math, if I do the math. If I stare into space, if I stare into space, if I stare into space. Good gawd, Pawned, math proves nothing, staring into space proves nothing!
Math proves your claims about water on Earth are bullshit.
If you do the math you will find you except virtually no curvature in the photos you have shown, that any curvature that is there would be within error of it being flat.
If you do the math you would find that the centrifugal force is basically nothing and not strong enough to have things fly off Earth.
Looking into space shows conclusively (along with the fact that the surface of Earth, ignoring mountains, is smooth) that Earth is round, as it has 2 poles which are always 180 degrees apart.
Anyone can give math for a spinning ball, that does not prove we are on a spinning ball.
That's right.
But that math matching reality is very strong evidence that we are.
People can also do the same for a stationary Earth and a flat Earth, and guess what? That doesn't match reality. That math not matching reality shows Earth isn't flat.
Give me the physical clues/signs/evidence form the condition of earth that supports we are spinning and speeding. Earth's physical condition is the best litmus test for the physical phenomenon's of our earth, not some hypothetical math for an imaginary spinning speeding ball, or staring at celestial lights. Earth's nature, Pawned, earth's physical condition, got anything? No you don't, because the signs/clues/evidence from earth does not lend testimony to a spinning speeding ball, never has, never will.
You have been given it and you have repeatedly ignored it.
Hypothetical assumptions that do not prove crap!
Good thing then that they aren't just hypothetical assumptions and instead are physical evidence.
or we are speeding through the non-vacuum of space at millions of MPH
And why would you want that?
You seem to be the only person here acting like anyone has claimed that.
Earth is moving through the vacuum of space.
It has been explained to you why space is a vacuum.
You have provided no rational refutation for it.
Because, from what I can see, they ain't there. That is what finally convinced me
That is because you continually ignore the evidence.
That is also a very stupid reason to be convinced.
You should be looking for evidence that Earth is flat, of which none can be found.
The ground feels motionless, because it is motionless.
No. The ground feels motionless because you cannot feel motion.
You will never have this: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3223/2722645288_ccc2e83d8f_z.jpg
if the ground the water is resting in is moving, at any speed, but 1,000 MPH, RIGHT!
Yes, you can, as if it is moving at a steady speed, there is no force to perturb the smooth surface. You can even have things like that (but not as flat due to the much smaller scale) with rapidly moving water.
You got google, I doubt you'd believe anything I present.
That is because so far all you have done is lied and ignored what people have said.
SURE! Got any evidence/signs/clues from the water on earth that supports that claim? As far as I have seen, water does not mimic moving at 1,000 MPH. By the way, I use 1,000 representing the entire earth is spinning at some ridicules speed. At the equator it is around 1,043 MPH, so it is claimed. Closer to the North Pole it is around 800 MPH, or some crazy number like that.
Anyway, what can you present from the physical condition of water on this earth that supports the water on earth is moving at 1,000 MPH? Certainly, if that is what water is physically experiencing, there has to be some physical evidence that supports that claim, what cha got?
NO! Get this through your thick skull: YOU DO NOT FEEL MOTION. WATER DOES NOT FEEL MOTION. WHAT YOU AND WATER FEEL ARE UNEVEN FORCES!
If Earth and the water and the atmosphere are moving together, there is no uneven force perturbing the water and thus it appears calm.
That is true if the entire thing is stationary or moving near the speed of light.
The reason you see the water slosh around in the truck is not because it is moving, it is because it is not moving with the truck.
As the truck turns a corner, the side wall of the truck has to push the water around the corner. This is an unequal force which perturbs the surface.
So no, water does mimic moving at 1000 MPH as that is identical to moving at 0 MPH.
What it doesn't mimic is sloshing around in a truck which is turning or accelerating.
And no, closer to the north pole it is around 0 MPH. You can easily calculate it from the radius from the axis.
The velocity is omega*R. Omega is 15 degrees an hour or 0.26179938779 rads per hour. The radius of Earth (r) in archaic units that no rational person uses for any kind of serious scientific discussion is 3,959 miles.
This means at the equator, where R=r, the rotational speed is roughly 1036 MPH.
Away from the equator we need to figure out what R is, and we do that with trig, noting that R=r*cos(theta) (so v=omega*r*cos(theta), where theta is your latitude.
So at a latitude of 85 degrees (near the north pole), you end up with a speed of roughly 90 miles per hour.
You can also work backwards, i.e. theta=acos(v/(omega*r)0
To get 800 MPH, you need to be at a latitude of roughly 40 degrees.
What evidence do you have that water is not moving?
Hey, if you can support your claim with actual physical evidence from the natural condition on this planet, I'll listen.
No. You won't.
You will just ignore it, like you have repeatedly.
Buddy, I use to believe in the spherical earth just 9 months ago. I spent 3 years researching the flat earth claim. So don't tell me I wouldn't accept evidence that will change my worldview. There are so many controversial claims, I decided to let the condition of the earth tell me what is what.
And I have spent plenty of time researching both.
So far a round Earth explains all observations.
A flat Earth can explain pretty much none.
The controversial claims are those of the flat Earthers, made with no evidence to support them, just like you have here.
Claiming you can feel motion is a controversial claim as it goes completely against the laws of physics.
If you would like to explain how you feel motion, feel free to do so, but like I said, make sure it is actually motion you are feeling and not relative motion or an unbalanced force.
The ground you walk on is said to be moving at 1,000 MPH, that's why it feels motionless, right? Do you really think you could stand up if the ground you are trying to stand on is moving at 1,000 MPH? Oh, but you are moving at 1,000 MPH too! Yeah, that's way I feel motionless when I stand still, right? Because I'm moving at 1,000 MPH, SURE!!!!!!
Yes. I could easily stand up on ground moving that fast, as I am moving with it. Just like I can stand up on a train or plane even though they are moving really fast, because I am moving with it.
Again, the reason you feel motionless is because you don't feel motion.
Clue: We're not spinning, the answer is zero!
Prove it or stop asserting the same bullshit again and again.
"the atmosphere is moving WITH the earth,"
Yeah, and aircraft are designed to move sideways at 1,000 MPH when they travel in a north/south direction, right?
No. I am yet to hear of an aircraft which moves in a direct north-south direction.
Instead they continue to move east with Earth while also moving north.
Go stand outside, tell me what you feel. Does it feel like you are speeding along at 1,000 MPH, or do you feel motionless? Case closed. Now, prove me wrong with the clues/signs/evidence from earth's physical condition that we are not motionless.
Just like all humans and all physical objects I am unable to tell, as there is no way to distinguish between the 2.
You do not feel motion.
The only case you are closing is that you are lying dishonest penguin with no concern for the truth.
Stop demanding others prove you wrong.
If you wish to claim Earth is flat and stationary, YOU PROVE IT!
Earth's physical condition, earth's physical nature, not the stars above us. Where are the signs/clues/evidence from the physical conditions right here on earth, not what is above.
Why ignore the stars above? You seem to be wanting to reject any evidence you can and limit your search to make it impossible for others to show you are wrong.
Is this because you know you are full of shit?
"Also the direction of cyclones are ALWAYS opposite..."
Flat earth has an equator, so what?
Yes, and that equator has very little physical meaning for a flat Earth.
It doesn't help explain the direction of cyclones at all.
The burden is on each individual to decide what they wish to accept. I'm just giving the final core argument of what convinced me of the flat earth reality. I don't have to prove or convince you of anything. By the way, I do this for me, not anybody else. When I see people getting to petty insults and belittlement, I know I on the right track.
Yes, and unfortunately some people are complete imbeciles, ignorant of reality that would be convinced by pure bullshit.
You aren't telling us what convinced you of the flat Earth reality.
You are telling us what allegedly convinced you of the flat Earth delusion and made you think the delusion is reality.
All the evidence points to Earth being round and rotating.
If you want to claim Earth is flat, you do need to provide evidence.
The reason people are getting to insults and belittlement is because you have shown you don't give a shit about the truth.
Evidence is provided and you just ignore it.
Your proofs are torn to shreds and you just ignore it.
You have made no rational defence of your insane position at all.
So far all you have done is baselessly asserted crap, lied, insulted people and stuck your fingers in your ears.
"An eighth grader could debunk your proof."
I'm sure you got past eighth grade, debunk this is proof for a motionless flat plane for earth's physical condition:
I'll await your rebuttal.
Your pictures and shitty video are not proof.
The error in your photos is far too great to determine if the surface of the water is flat or curved.
We have repeatedly explained that you don't feel motion.
So people walking down a city street is not proof that Earth is stationary, no more so than people walking on a train or plane is proof it is stationary.
It just shows your ignorance and/or dishonesty.
Yeah, I'm a retard, that has to be it, hey? There is no way my evidence/clues/signs that support a motionless horizontal surface for earth can be true, can it?
That's right.
None of what you have presented has come close to proving Earth is flat or motionless.
So far all you have done is shown your ignorance of scale and physics.
Earth will reveal what it is physically experiencing, not some dudes/dudets writing books.
And it does, if you are willing to honestly look.
Guess what it reveals? That it is round and rotating.
"You can easily move around in a speeding train..."
True, is earth inside a solid shell, like you are in the train/plane? Are we inside earth, or standing on the surface of earth? Could you stand on the outside of the surface of the speeding train/plane, and have the same experience as you do inside?
Who gives a damn if Earth is inside a solid shell?
Why should it need to be?
Are you inside a solid shell when you move relative to the train? NO.
The simple fact is while on the train, you don't feel the motion.
So why would you expect to feel motion on Earth?
Again, when you stand on the outside of the train/plane, you are moving relative to the atmosphere.
That is what you are feeling, the force of needing to push the atmosphere out of the way. You are not feeling your motion.
The same applies in a wind tunnel when you are stationary and the wind is blowing into you.
All you are noticing is the relative motion between yourself and the air.
What is outside Earth that we need protecting from by a solid shell?
I won't deny that is what we have been taught, but really, when you think about, everything is moving at 1,000 MPH, and yet you don't feel it, there are no physical signs/clues/evidence from earth's condition that supports it, why do you still accept it?
And there are no physical signs/clues/evidence from Earth's condition that supports a motionless Earth. So why do you accept that?
The simple reality is that there can never be signs of continuous movement.
If you have 2 entities that are moving relative to each other at a steady state it is impossible to determine which one is moving and which one is stationary of if they are both moving
If the atmosphere close to earth will not protect you from the forces associated with speeding, wind turbulence, stuff like that, what makes you think the very thin atmosphere closer to space is going to protect us from the forces of speeding through the non-vacuum of space?
It won't. But who gives a shit?
Earth is moving through the vacuum of space, and thus it has no wind or air or turbulence to move through.
You ignoring reality (that space is a vacuum), doesn't magically make it not a vacuum. It just makes you delusional.
And really?
You are suggesting that the atmosphere, at least 100 km thick, is closer to space than us?
How about this, the atmosphere is not moving to the east at 1,000 MPH, because the crust below it is stationary, how's that? No need for fancy explanations, or fancy math that proves nothing.
But that requires ignoring all the evidence that Earth is spinning.
I'm sure that is what you believe, what you've been taught, but what we actually experience says otherwise.
The Coriolis effect has been debunked, I'm surprised you haven't seen it, or perhaps you did, but old beliefs die hard. Here, this guy disproves the Coriolis effect right in his kitchen sink:
And just like your tennis ball example, you blow things way out of proportion.
A sink is too small to have any noticeable effect due to the Coriolis effect.
So no, it doesn't disprove the Coriolis effect just like your pictures of un-noticeably curved water don't prove Earth is flat, and your rapidly spinning tennis ball doesn't prove the water should fly off a spinning Earth.
So no, the Coriolis effect hasn't been debunked and is currently the only explanation for the formation of cyclones.
How about instead of continuing to reject reality you start defending your delusions, such as explaining how cyclones form on your imaginary flat stationary Earth?
I have already stated you cannot feel velocity inside a vessel surrounded by a protective solid shell/skin, but it is not the same outside the vessel, that is what you'll don't admit to. You'll think while we are outside on the vessel earth we are protected like being inside a moving vessel. There is no solid shell/skin/protective barrier outside of earth's atmosphere protecting us, like it is inside a speeding vessel. And don't give me space is a vacuum, space is anything but a vacuum.
And once again you are being dishonest with your representation.
You do not feel constant velocity. When you step outside that protective skin what you are feeling is the relative motion of you and the air. The same happens in a wind tunnel.
As there is no atmosphere that Earth is flying through, it doesn't need a protective skin as there is nothing to protect from.
Space is a vacuum, no matter how much you lie and claim it isn't.