How could this be a HOAX?

Hi everyone!

I'm new to the forum and came here to ask one specific question to you guys. I've been researching the FET for a while now, and it seems to make a lot of sense! Something tells me things are not what we think they are here on this PLANEt.

Yesterday, I stumbled into this video on Youtube which made me ponder how could it be a fake? I have some experience with video/image editing and it doesn't look like a hoax, staged footage. Please, do you think this footage is a HOAX? Why?

Go straight to 28:20 and start watching the next few minutes:



Please, share your thoughts!

Thanks a lot!

I didn't watch the vid you posted. I have seen them using harnesses and green screens for other ISS tours. Check some tubes where they show you evidence of fake.

I didn't watch the vid you posted. I have seen them using harnesses and green screens for other ISS tours. Check some tubes where they show you evidence of fake.

No, you haven't.

You didn't watch the video but have decided it''s fake, you claim there are ones that show it us fake but don't give us any.  Not good enough.

Onebigmarkjo

Yesterday, I stumbled into this video on Youtube which made me ponder how could it be a fake? I have some experience with video/image editing and it doesn't look like a hoax, staged footage. Please, do you think this footage is a HOAX? Why?

Go straight to 28:20 and start watching the next few minutes:



Please, share your thoughts!

Thanks a lot!

I didn't see anything that couldn't be 'photoshopped'.  Doesn't mean that it is though.

Also:

I've been researching the FET for a while now, and it seems to make a lot of sense! Something tells me things are not what we think they are here on this PLANEt.

Definition of a planet (copied from wikipedia):

A planet is an astronomical body orbiting a star or stellar remnant that
           -is massive enough to be rounded by its own gravity,
           -is not massive enough to cause thermonuclear fusion, and
           -has cleared its neighbouring region of planetesimals.

Hi everyone!

I'm new to the forum and came here to ask one specific question to you guys. I've been researching the FET for a while now, and it seems to make a lot of sense! Something tells me things are not what we think they are here on this PLANEt.

Yesterday, I stumbled into this video on Youtube which made me ponder how could it be a fake? I have some experience with video/image editing and it doesn't look like a hoax, staged footage. Please, do you think this footage is a HOAX? Why?

Go straight to 28:20 and start watching the next few minutes:



Please, share your thoughts!

Thanks a lot!

I don't think the footage is a hoax. It would seem you don't either. Maybe that should influence your thoughts on the shape of the earth?

I don't think the footage is a hoax. It would seem you don't either. Maybe that should influence your thoughts on the shape of the earth?

Well, if it's not a hoax and indeed the orbiting ISS is real and the earth is not flat, as those images clearly show, of course this will bring me back to where I was before, that is, the round earth model (what about you?). But I still think there's a lot going on that we don't know about.

Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 10, 2017, 06:53:12 AM

I don't think the footage is a hoax. It would seem you don't either. Maybe that should influence your thoughts on the shape of the earth?

Well, if it's not a hoax and indeed the orbiting ISS is real and the earth is not flat, as those images clearly show, of course this will bring me back to where I was before, that is, the round earth model (what about you?). But I still think there's a lot going on that we don't know about.

Me? I'm pretty sure the earth is round. That's not something I've really doubted since I first learnt how to think about it many years ago. Sure, there may be lots of things going on that 'we' don't know about. But I suspect that if we knew those things we'd be disappointed at how mundane they were. I don't think there's going to be anything as exciting as the shape of the earth being a lie. Big secrets are hard to keep.

But I'm not so sure about anything. This could well be a hoax, if we take the movie "gravity" for instance, it's impossible to distinguish reality and CGI these days.

After thinking about this for a while, I came into this question: When was the first ISS video tour published by any space agency? The first one I was able to identify was in 2012. If the ISS is up there since 1998, why is it that we have no such footage from before 2011?

But I'm not so sure about anything. This could well be a hoax, if we take the movie "gravity" for instance, it's impossible to distinguish reality and CGI these days.

The real space geeks out there will disagree. Search for the technical errors the film makes. Also search for how long it takes to film the scenes and try and reconcile that with the length of an ISS mission.

After thinking about this for a while, I came into this question: When was the first ISS video tour published by any space agency? The first one I was able to identify was in 2012. If the ISS is up there since 1998, why is it that we have no such footage from before 2011?

There's plenty. Search under the original mission numbers, for example ISS one:

Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 10, 2017, 06:53:12 AM

I don't think the footage is a hoax. It would seem you don't either. Maybe that should influence your thoughts on the shape of the earth?

Well, if it's not a hoax and indeed the orbiting ISS is real and the earth is not flat, as those images clearly show, of course this will bring me back to where I was before, that is, the round earth model (what about you?). But I still think there's a lot going on that we don't know about.

Do you guys watch movies?
How do they float in space in movies?
Did they really go out into space to shoot a scene of space walk?
Nasa-Hollywood production! Simple as that!

Unfortunately human beings are ultra gullible. We believe official explanations. We respect authority, on the whole, even if at times it is grudgingly.
We idolise people put before us, whether it's  acclaimed scientists or pop stars or fooballing stars...in fact name anything that projects a fellow human into our visual and mindset.

The scary part is, it doesn't just stop at idolising human beings. We idolise cartoon characters. And I don't mean just kids either.

Then we have the on-going soaps that people regularly watch and spend the next day gossiping about with like-minded people. People actually talking as if the scenes are literally real life scenes, to the point that some people will actually attack a soap star who's played a baddie or whatever.

I've seen many people in tears over story lines as I bet you all have.

So it's not remotely beyond the realms of any possibility that we are also sold stories and films of space and all the rest of the crap.
It makes for exciting viewing. The music added in and the sharp tone of the voices of the narrators. A bit of slow motion rocket lift off's to heighten the tension.

Add in many series of lost in space and star trek/star wars and all the rest of it and we can go anywhere you want to go if the Hollywood special effects department are given the go ahead by the puppet masters.

We live in a world where humans? play out different games with the gullible populations of Earth.
Excite and scare in the right proportions to keep the masses moving in the direction set out.

All the space stuff is complete and utter bollocks but the frenzy crews are always out in force to tell us all different.

Unfortunately human beings are ultra gullible. We believe official explanations. We respect authority, on the whole, even if at times it is grudgingly.
We idolise people put before us, whether it's  acclaimed scientists or pop stars or fooballing stars...in fact name anything that projects a fellow human into our visual and mindset.

The scary part is, it doesn't just stop at idolising human beings. We idolise cartoon characters. And I don't mean just kids either.

Then we have the on-going soaps that people regularly watch and spend the next day gossiping about with like-minded people. People actually talking as if the scenes are literally real life scenes, to the point that some people will actually attack a soap star who's played a baddie or whatever.

I've seen many people in tears over story lines as I bet you all have.

So it's not remotely beyond the realms of any possibility that we are also sold stories and films of space and all the rest of the crap.
It makes for exciting viewing. The music added in and the sharp tone of the voices of the narrators. A bit of slow motion rocket lift off's to heighten the tension.

Add in many series of lost in space and star trek/star wars and all the rest of it and we can go anywhere you want to go if the Hollywood special effects department are given the go ahead by the puppet masters.

We live in a world where humans? play out different games with the gullible populations of Earth.
Excite and scare in the right proportions to keep the masses moving in the direction set out.

All the space stuff is complete and utter bollocks but the frenzy crews are always out in force to tell us all different.

This is just the beginning!

They are preparing us for what they had planned for us for hundreds of years.
They are at the final touches of setting the scenes of the final event.
They are preparing us for NEW WORLD ORDER!
The First Virtual-Reality Movie of Extraterrestrial Invasion
Produced in Hollywood, directed by Nasa, and funded by the Vatican!

They taught us Earth was just a tiny round dot in the sky, and everything came from chaos - from a big-bang fart!
They are teaching our children that there is NO GOD, and that another intelligent race from another galaxy, so far away, had designed & created us!
Tomorrow they will tell us our GODS have arrived - came back to rule us like they ruled earth thousands of years ago, when Babel was the capital of the world.
They shifted Babel to Rome - the devil's nest is most secured, world's gold is in hand, and the Servant of Marduk is on the thrown waiting to take the blessing from his master to rule!!!

You two are hysterical.

Seek help.

You two are hysterical.

Seek help.

From your avatar, I can see you're blind
In reality, I think you are as well!

Unfortunately human beings are ultra gullible. We believe official explanations. We respect authority, on the whole, even if at times it is grudgingly.
We idolise people put before us, whether it's  acclaimed scientists or pop stars or fooballing stars...in fact name anything that projects a fellow human into our visual and mindset.

The scary part is, it doesn't just stop at idolising human beings. We idolise cartoon characters. And I don't mean just kids either.

Then we have the on-going soaps that people regularly watch and spend the next day gossiping about with like-minded people. People actually talking as if the scenes are literally real life scenes, to the point that some people will actually attack a soap star who's played a baddie or whatever.

I've seen many people in tears over story lines as I bet you all have.

So it's not remotely beyond the realms of any possibility that we are also sold stories and films of space and all the rest of the crap.
It makes for exciting viewing. The music added in and the sharp tone of the voices of the narrators. A bit of slow motion rocket lift off's to heighten the tension.

Add in many series of lost in space and star trek/star wars and all the rest of it and we can go anywhere you want to go if the Hollywood special effects department are given the go ahead by the puppet masters.

We live in a world where humans? play out different games with the gullible populations of Earth.
Excite and scare in the right proportions to keep the masses moving in the direction set out.

All the space stuff is complete and utter bollocks but the frenzy crews are always out in force to tell us all different.

Impotent frustration is what I would call this meaningless word salad. It must be indeed frustrating to not be able to provide evidence for literally anything you say.

By all means prattle on with your nonsense and keep living in your tiny fantasy world. Just please know that the earth and the universe operate and exist independent of your understanding of them.

You're really like every other FE'er on here, despite having your own made-up-bullshit 'model': You think an inability to understand something means obfuscation and/or collusion.

You seem to think that scientists tell us this is how it is and that the discussion ends there. Needless to say, you couldn't be more wrong. Not only is science subject to internal regulation through peer-review, something like the shape of the planet can also be investigated by any regular person with a bit of know-how... and guess what? The evidence checks out; the earth is an oblate spheroid. Always has been, always will be.

I honestly hope you don't waste your life with this gibberish, scepti.

Hannibaal for mod!

Quote from: TheRealBillNye on February 14, 2017, 07:32:23 AM

You two are hysterical.

Seek help.

From your avatar, I can see you're blind
In reality, I think you are as well!

From your avatar, I can see you're about 6 months old!
In reality, I think you act that way as well!