You've found nothing. Your arrogance holds no bounds.Your backwardness stands out like a beacon.
Nope. I found a massive gaping hole which you are yet to patch.
You cannot explain why a vacuum, which displaces air and thus according to your idea should weigh a lot, weighs less than the air it displaces.
You're the kid that gets told not to put his hand in the fire and explained to as to why you shouldn't. You then put your hand in the fire again and then argue that you were never explained to.
Basically backwardness and inability to reason. Lacking of common sense and logic.
No. I'm the kid that is told to not put his hand in fire and then rapidly passes it through to show that you aren't magically burnt the second you touch it.
I am the one with a great ability to reason with plenty of logic rather than the stupidity that is often passed off as common sense.
Weirdly that's what mainstream so called scientists are doing to the wider public.
When questioned they refuse to physically show a proof and bully people into just accepting.
Ring any bells for you, gravity boy?
Nope.
That is what the FE conmen do.
The real scientists (the ones that support a round Earth), show their evidence and conclusively show that Earth is round.
It works for me. What you do with it is entirely up to you.
It works for you because you ignore all the problems with it because you don't give a shit about the truth.
We have also shown you that they do have "dodgy breaks", by showing that they don't work, and you just ignore it.
I'm entitled to take breaks from thinking about my model.
How is that in any way relevant?
It explains it perfectly. Backward people like yourself won't be able to comprehend it.
You might want to look up what perfectly means.
Predicting the exact opposite is very far from a perfect explanation.
Rational, logical people like me will be able to comprehend it and realise it is crap.
You mean the gravity that you told me not to mention because you cannot explain it, so came at me with an onslaught against denpressure.
No, not quite that gravity. The gravity which I told you to stop hiding behind to try and derail the topic, which you then brought back up and lied about yet again.
Explain what gravity is and show me how it works so that I'm clear on it.
Let's see what you have to rely on.
No. Like I said, this is for discussing denpressure, not gravity. If you want to discuss gravity, start a new thread.
Stop trying to hide behind gravity just because you can't explain your bullshit.
I think I've explained in all kinds of ways. I don't think anything will ever pacify someone like you.
All of which involve numerous baseless assertions and ignoring the issues raised. So no, not all kinds of ways. You missed the most important one, honestly and rationally.
Correct, it doesn't...but then again, neither does the pseudo science you adhere to that you regurgitate without actually knowing what the hell it really is that you are regurgitating..
I'm not the one sticking to pseudo science here.
No they aren't, no matter how much you pretend they are.
So what have I been working with all this time if not a vacuum that has all the properties of a vacuum?
Objects displacing atmospheric pressure is the key to what acts upon us all and all materials within it or part of it, which is everything.
No. It is a key to a very small part of reality.
There are plenty of things acting upon us which have nothing to do with displacing air.
Stop telling lies.
I haven't been. How about you follow your own advice?
You really don't know what you're trying to say. You're just saying things for the sake of saying it.
"Look at me, look at me, I'm forum person, Jack." Bollocks.
Nope. I know exactly what I am trying to say.
Your claims about displacing atmosphere causing weight is pure bullshit that does not match reality.
Stop acting so backward and attempt to learn, for you, not to try and look sensible in front of names on a screen.
Again, that is what I am doing.
But people repeatedly lying to me and misrepresenting reality isn't helping me learn about reality.
So if you want that, perhaps you should start trying to explain the massive gaping hole in your idea.
I've repeatedly told you about scales in changed environments. Pay attention.
You have repeatedly baselessly asserted it.
You are yet to demonstrate it actually happens.
You likely don't even know how they work.
If you did, you would realise that most don't depend upon the atmosphere to work.
Yes, unless you can show me that it doesn't...instead of just mouthing typing off.
And I have. And all you can do is lie about it.
Even if they take out your breaks and show that they don't work, or show your break lines are broken, or show that they are quite clearly pressing the pedal yet there is no breaking, it still works.
No matter what you try to do, I'm entitled to a break. What the hell are you trying to do....wear me out and work me to death?
Do you not remember the analogy you were using that this was a response to? That can't be the case considering it was quoted directly above this.
So that means you are just being a dishonest penguin yet again.
Do you know how to be honest?
You need to calm down before you get a sore typing throat.
I don't want to rely on a life time of lies to regurgitate to people as truth's, I want to find the truth of those lies and untrustworthy people like you will not scupper that, unless you are an assassin and you take me out.
I am calm.
If you don't want to rely upon a lifetime of lies, why do you keep spouting so many?
Why do you keep hiding from the truth and sticking to your delusions?
I want to take out your bullshit.
If you want to stop lying and start being honest and trustworthy, I would have no problem with you.
We have tested your breaks, quite thoroughly and found them to not work at all.
I take the recommended breaks. Ok ok, I've maybe had a sly extra few minutes here and there but who hasn't?
Again, why ignore the analogy?
Sticking my fingers in my ears won't help me do anything other than go basically, deaf.
It helps you ignore those proving you wrong.
Going deaf would help even more (or blind in the case of online forums).
Says you, the backward kid who believes he's the genius all knowing denpressure killer without knowing what's what.
No, says me that know enough about denpressure and reality to demonstrate quite effectively that the 2 are incompatible.
You know as well as I do that this would never happen.
If it isn't in the plans then it is washed down the plug hole into oblivion.
Yes, but not for the reason you claim.
It would never happen because your idea comes no where near to explaining reality.
Ok ok so I went to the audition in a superman suit. I had a lapse of memory, forgetting that it was Abraham Lincoln auditioning day.
Nope. No lapse in memory, you really thought Abraham Lincoln was superman, and called everyone stupid and ignorant for not believing you.
I think a straight jacket and a padded room would be.
Would be what?....White?.....comfortable looking?....Clean?...Safe for kids and adults alike?....What?
You really do love ignoring context don't you?
They would be more appropriate than an assassin.
I think I'd probably have a snipers bullet with my name on it or something along the lines that led to my expiry from physical life.
Again, if that was the case, don't you think it would have already happened?
If people were so worried, and thought you were right, and thought that was worth assassinating you over, don't you think they would have already done it?
Not really. I mean look at you...you're doing your utmost to make me look exactly how people want to view me.......As a nut job. A tin foil hat waste of time.... A worthless retard.
Plus I'm not stood in the middle of some mall or plaza telling all and sundry just what the reality is, then standing before mainstream peers arguing and shouting a case.
I'm under no illusions as to my worth to those that pull the strings. I'm worth the world to myself and to those that believe I am their world. That's all that really counts.
So your worth to delusional nutcases is all you care about?
My idea isn't an idea as far as you're concerned, so I wouldn't expect you to say anything other.
Nobel prize one second and then this.
Make your mind up.
No. It is an idea. The idea is pure bullshit, but it is still an idea.
What it isn't is a scientific theory.
I never said you would get a Nobel prize. I said if your idea was true you would.
You welcome questions by those that just want to accept your idea.
Jane and dispute one are both globalites and ask me many questions and accept none of them as being real or solving anything. They do it to understand my thoughts on my model.
They may sit there laughing and calling me a retard without actually telling me it in type.
The point is, they try to understand it for their own mindset and entertainment among many other things.
Yes, because they want to accept your model. Not necessarily as a real alternative, but they still want to accept it.
On the other hand, I only care if it can explain reality, or if you admit it can't.
I welcome their logical unfrenzied input just as I welcome backward people like yourself to question in a frenzy.
It's like chalk and chesse with you and those people.
Again, I'm not the backwards person here. I am the calm logical one showing massive holes in your idea.
My input is quite logical, you just need to pretend it isn't so you can ignore the flaws.
You rarely show any logic. You basically appear to be the kid at the back of the crowd that runs forward, pushing through to hurl abuse and attempt ridicule, then watch as you agitate the crowd. Then you slip back into it until you need to mouth off.
The backward kid that tries his best to look like he's got some sense but fails miserably.
The type of kid that swaps a dirty 5 dollar bill for a shiny 50 cents and thinking you got the better deal.
No. I have repeatedly shown logic.
I am the kid at the back that notices you said some bullshit so I point it out.
Yeah I've insulted and I don't normally like to. But the problem is I sometimes like to play tit for tat...especially when I am up against a mass of insults from a posse.
But your not playing tit-for-tat. If you were, you would be responding with logic. Did you notice how you resorted to insults first, effectively saying we were stupid and dishonest and so on?
Nahhh, I'm like the person at the door who refuses to be coaxed into a sale based on masses buying the sell.
I'm the small window firm answering the door to the corporate window salesperson and turning the canvassing back around. No salesperson likes that, because gift of the gab is what sells stuff, not truth of the product. So basically we are in the same boat, only you are backed up by force of numbers.
Nope. You are trying to pedal your bullshit.
You aren't relying upon the truth of the product. You are trying to hide the facts.
No. We aren't in the same boat.
You have nothing backing you up.
I have all the evidence in the world.
Try to do the same and you might get somewhere.
I'm not the one claiming bullshit about reality. I am the one rejecting your nonsense claims.
No contradictions, just refusal to understand by people like you.
No. We are quite willing to understand. We just aren't going to accept bullshit which makes no sense and contradicts other parts of the model.
Take a rigid container which is air tight, with a connection that will allow you to take air out and put it in.
Weigh it.
Now take out the air, as much as you can.
This is displacing the air from the container.
As such, it should weigh significantly more than before.
So weigh it now and see if it weighs more or less than before.
If your idea is true, and displacing air causes weight, it should weigh more.
Now let the air back in, this should cause the weight to drop as the air is no longer being displaced.
How many times do I have to explain?
Just once is enough. But it needs to be an actual explanation rather than ignoring it or manipulating it.
You are yet to actually explain it.
Start to understand what I've been trying to tell you.
Again, I understand you just fine.
Perhaps you should start listening to what I am saying and actually address it?
I'm deflecting nothing.
Yes, you are deflecting. You are doing whatever you can to avoid this massive hole and this experiment which shows your idea to not match reality.
Scales are built under sea level atmospheric conditions. It may mean nothing to you because you're unwilling to think about it.
No. It means nothing to me because I actually think about it and understand how scales work and understand that reducing the pressure doesn't magically change them or stop them working.
It means a lot to you because you are unwilling to actually think about it. You just look for an excuse to avoid the problem and then stick to it, without any rational justification.
What makes you think they wont work under vacuum?
Do you even understand how they work?
Take some time out and come back and rationally think about stuff before you ask me about anything.
I don't need to take some time out.
I have continually been thinking rationally about stuff.
That is why I realise your idea is so flawed.
You don't actually want us to think. You just want us to accept what you say.
It's not about compensating for atmospheric conditions, it's actually just building in normal atmospheric conditions.
They don't build the components from scratch on top of Everest, do they?
They do it all at sea level or thereabouts.
This might not appear to be anything significant to you but it it.
Stop baselessly asserting it is. Explain why it is.
And I've just told you about scales under different conditions.
Let me put this to you.
Get a barometer and mark it's atmospheric measurement.
Now stick it into a chamber and evacuate as much pressure as the pump will allow.
Do you think the reading will change?
If so, then tell me why the reading changes.
If you think not, then also explain why.
Also just tell me why a mercury barometer makes a reading.
A mercury barometer acts akin to a straw or a water pump.
You have a vacuum inside the top of the barometer (quite a good one).
You have the atmospheric pressure pushing the mercury up the tube.
It doesn't matter what the sizes are.
You can have a nice thin tube with a massive mercury dish, or you can have a massive mercury tube with a tiny dish (but that makes the measurement hard as you need to measure relative to the surface of the mercury in the dish).
The mercury will be pushed up a height dependent upon the local strength of gravity, the mercury's density and the atmospheric pressure.
In a vacuum, there is no pressure and thus no push up the tube.
At standard conditions, it will be approximately 760 mm high.
This is nothing to do with how a scale works.