UA vs Denpressure

Just trying to help.

I have been.  Pretty much everyone has asked this same question. If so many people are missing it maybe the problem is in the explanation.

Think about this.

A man stands in the middle of a crowded shopping mall. He tells a story. A story gathers the crowd.
The man explains that gravity doesn't exists and begins to talk about atmosphere being the reality to what's what on/in Earth.
One man throws a tomato at the man in the centre as soon as the trigger words of NO GRAVITY comes into play.
The person next to the tomato man starts shouting " nutter nutter, he'll predict the end of the world soon."

Laughter ensues and more and more people follow on with the abuse, whilst some walk away discussing what the man said.
"Did you understand what he meant when he said that?"
"Well not really because I stopped when he mentioned gravity wasn't real and we know it is because (drops car keys) look. This wouldn't happen without gravity."
"Yeah, you're right, he's a stark raving loony and I'll bet he's stood here tomorrow with a board proclaiming the end of the word is nigh."


There's reasons why people cannot understand stuff and it's not because they are stupid. It's because the human indoctrination programming is deeply rooted. Don't believe for one second that you are a thinker, independent of peer pressure. None of us are overall. Just some of us can actually do it in part. Some can't or refuse to, because the comfort of following mass opinion is much easier to bear...and it's actually correct. It is, but there's no enlightenment from any of it.

Anything you learn you learn by committing to memory, something that was already thought up, so you didn't really learn anything other than to mimic.

An inventor is a free thinker. A story teller of fiction is a free thinker. A story teller of known truth's from own experience without peers, is a free thinker.

Someone trying to learn my thoughts on Earth is an alternate thinker. Not exactly a free thinker but a freedom to think alternately to the program they adhered to.

It's a start and it can actually make you start to think on your own and actually add something to what I'm saying, which then makes you a free thinker.

Think for yourself, is what I'm trying to tell you. Do it for you and you might stand a better chance of grasping different concepts of things.

Don't even attempt it until you start to pick holes in your own programmed global story you were forced into.

Just trying to help.

Can you briefly explain what you are trying to help with, if you don't mind.

Just so I know what I need to reply with.

Can you briefly explain what you are trying to help with, if you don't mind.

Just so I know what I need to reply with.

I'm hoping to illustrate the usual meanings of the terms mass, volume and density.

This one's quite explanatory too:

I did this already,  but let's recap,   a container 10cm x 10cm x 10cm  is a volume of 1000 cubic centimeters,  or 1 liter which if filled with water weighs 1 kg

So 1 liter of water is a mass of 1 kilogram,  in a gravitational field of 1g it is a weight of 1 kilogram weight.

This is starting to be fun.

I did this already,  but let's recap,   a container 10cm x 10cm x 10cm  is a volume of 1000 cubic centimeters,  or 1 liter which if filled with water weighs 1 kg

So 1 liter of water is a mass of 1 kilogram,  in a gravitational field of 1g it is a weight of 1 kilogram weight.

This is starting to be fun.

Time for me to ask questions.
What is 1g?
Tell me in your own words in simple terms what 1g actually means in terms of 1 kilogram in a gravitational field of 1g.

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 12:37:59 AM

I did this already,  but let's recap,   a container 10cm x 10cm x 10cm  is a volume of 1000 cubic centimeters,  or 1 liter which if filled with water weighs 1 kg

So 1 liter of water is a mass of 1 kilogram,  in a gravitational field of 1g it is a weight of 1 kilogram weight.

This is starting to be fun.

Time for me to ask questions.
What is 1g?
Tell me in your own words in simple terms what 1g actually means in terms of 1 kilogram in a gravitational field of 1g.

g is acceleration,   drop something and it falls at a rate of  1g  something like 9.8 m/s² 
What's the point of that?    Well  Force = Mass x  Acceleration,    you can prove that yourself with a few simple experiments. 
So 1 kilogram mass exerts a force of 1 kilogram weight if the acceleration is 1g
Anyway,   I remember explaining all this many times before.  So that's enough derailing from you and ducking the hard questions.

Now it's your turn to tell me in your own words as simply as possible what causes the stacking to be vertical in your denspressure world model. 

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 01:49:47 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 12:37:59 AM

I did this already,  but let's recap,   a container 10cm x 10cm x 10cm  is a volume of 1000 cubic centimeters,  or 1 liter which if filled with water weighs 1 kg

So 1 liter of water is a mass of 1 kilogram,  in a gravitational field of 1g it is a weight of 1 kilogram weight.

This is starting to be fun.

Time for me to ask questions.
What is 1g?
Tell me in your own words in simple terms what 1g actually means in terms of 1 kilogram in a gravitational field of 1g.

g is acceleration,   drop something and it falls at a rate of  1g  something like 9.8 m/s² 
What's the point of that?    Well  Force = Mass x  Acceleration,    you can prove that yourself with a few simple experiments. 
So 1 kilogram mass exerts a force of 1 kilogram weight if the acceleration is 1g
Anyway,   I remember explaining all this many times before.  So that's enough derailing from you and ducking the hard questions.

Now it's your turn to tell me in your own words as simply as possible what causes the stacking to be vertical in your denspressure world model.

So gravity is your force, right? And it PULLS?...mass down at 9.8m/s².

Ok, so what happens when 1kg mass does not have the acceleration of 1g, as it just resting it on a scale plate.
What's the force causing the weight now?

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 05:27:29 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 01:49:47 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 12:37:59 AM

I did this already,  but let's recap,   a container 10cm x 10cm x 10cm  is a volume of 1000 cubic centimeters,  or 1 liter which if filled with water weighs 1 kg

So 1 liter of water is a mass of 1 kilogram,  in a gravitational field of 1g it is a weight of 1 kilogram weight.

This is starting to be fun.

Time for me to ask questions.
What is 1g?
Tell me in your own words in simple terms what 1g actually means in terms of 1 kilogram in a gravitational field of 1g.

g is acceleration,   drop something and it falls at a rate of  1g  something like 9.8 m/s² 
What's the point of that?    Well  Force = Mass x  Acceleration,    you can prove that yourself with a few simple experiments. 
So 1 kilogram mass exerts a force of 1 kilogram weight if the acceleration is 1g
Anyway,   I remember explaining all this many times before.  So that's enough derailing from you and ducking the hard questions.

Now it's your turn to tell me in your own words as simply as possible what causes the stacking to be vertical in your denspressure world model.

So gravity is your force, right? And it PULLS?...mass down at 9.8m/s².

Ok, so what happens when 1kg mass does not have the acceleration of 1g, as it just resting it on a scale plate.
What's the force causing the weight now?

The same,   now stop derailing the thread,  I'm not your physics teacher.   

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 05:58:14 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 05:27:29 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 01:49:47 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 12:37:59 AM

I did this already,  but let's recap,   a container 10cm x 10cm x 10cm  is a volume of 1000 cubic centimeters,  or 1 liter which if filled with water weighs 1 kg

So 1 liter of water is a mass of 1 kilogram,  in a gravitational field of 1g it is a weight of 1 kilogram weight.

This is starting to be fun.

Time for me to ask questions.
What is 1g?
Tell me in your own words in simple terms what 1g actually means in terms of 1 kilogram in a gravitational field of 1g.

g is acceleration,   drop something and it falls at a rate of  1g  something like 9.8 m/s² 
What's the point of that?    Well  Force = Mass x  Acceleration,    you can prove that yourself with a few simple experiments. 
So 1 kilogram mass exerts a force of 1 kilogram weight if the acceleration is 1g
Anyway,   I remember explaining all this many times before.  So that's enough derailing from you and ducking the hard questions.

Now it's your turn to tell me in your own words as simply as possible what causes the stacking to be vertical in your denspressure world model.

So gravity is your force, right? And it PULLS?...mass down at 9.8m/s².

Ok, so what happens when 1kg mass does not have the acceleration of 1g, as it just resting it on a scale plate.
What's the force causing the weight now?

The same,   now stop derailing the thread,  I'm not your physics teacher.

How can it be the same. It doesn't make sense?
If it's just sat on a scale it's not accelerating, right?
If you drop it from a height of 9.8m, it apparently takes 1 second to hit the floor due to this acceleration.
I'm placing the 1 kg block on the scale plate so how is it accelerating? Can you explain this?

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 06:25:29 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 05:58:14 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 05:27:29 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 01:49:47 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 12:37:59 AM

I did this already,  but let's recap,   a container 10cm x 10cm x 10cm  is a volume of 1000 cubic centimeters,  or 1 liter which if filled with water weighs 1 kg

So 1 liter of water is a mass of 1 kilogram,  in a gravitational field of 1g it is a weight of 1 kilogram weight.

This is starting to be fun.

Time for me to ask questions.
What is 1g?
Tell me in your own words in simple terms what 1g actually means in terms of 1 kilogram in a gravitational field of 1g.

g is acceleration,   drop something and it falls at a rate of  1g  something like 9.8 m/s² 
What's the point of that?    Well  Force = Mass x  Acceleration,    you can prove that yourself with a few simple experiments. 
So 1 kilogram mass exerts a force of 1 kilogram weight if the acceleration is 1g
Anyway,   I remember explaining all this many times before.  So that's enough derailing from you and ducking the hard questions.

Now it's your turn to tell me in your own words as simply as possible what causes the stacking to be vertical in your denspressure world model.

So gravity is your force, right? And it PULLS?...mass down at 9.8m/s².

Ok, so what happens when 1kg mass does not have the acceleration of 1g, as it just resting it on a scale plate.
What's the force causing the weight now?

The same,   now stop derailing the thread,  I'm not your physics teacher.

How can it be the same. It doesn't make sense?
If it's just sat on a scale it's not accelerating, right?
If you drop it from a height of 9.8m, it apparently takes 1 second to hit the floor due to this acceleration.
I'm placing the 1 kg block on the scale plate so how is it accelerating? Can you explain this?

It makes perfect sense,   F=ma   The force from the spring in the scales balances the force from the weight. 

Can I add force to the list of things that don't exist in your world?

It makes perfect sense,   F=ma   The force from the spring in the scales balances the force from the weight. 

Can I add force to the list of things that don't exist in your world?

The force from the spring?
But surely the spring is pushing UP. So, if the 1 kg block is simply placed on it, it is not accelerating at 9.8m/s.

You see, with my denpressure, you have a block that displaces the atmosphere it is pushed into.
Place this on a scale plate and it pushes into that atmosphere and uses the scale plate as a leverage/resistance to the atmospheric push back. You then get a reading on the scales by spring compression due to the scale plate not being solidly on the ground,

I know which one not only sounds real but is easily proven.
It's denpressure.
Gravity cannot be proven and what you adhere to is mildly clever magic but magical nonsense all the same.

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 06:41:04 AM

It makes perfect sense,   F=ma   The force from the spring in the scales balances the force from the weight. 

Can I add force to the list of things that don't exist in your world?

The force from the spring?
But surely the spring is pushing UP. So, if the 1 kg block is simply placed on it, it is not accelerating at 9.8m/s.

You see, with my denpressure, you have a block that displaces the atmosphere it is pushed into.
Place this on a scale plate and it pushes into that atmosphere and uses the scale plate as a leverage/resistance to the atmospheric push back. You then get a reading on the scales by spring compression due to the scale plate not being solidly on the ground,

I know which one not only sounds real but is easily proven.
It's denpressure.
Gravity cannot be proven and what you adhere to is mildly clever magic but magical nonsense all the same.

Ok the block displaces atmosphere,  and the atmosphere pushes back,  all well and good,  but why is that  push directed downwards?   Why not sideways?

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 06:49:38 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 06:41:04 AM

It makes perfect sense,   F=ma   The force from the spring in the scales balances the force from the weight. 

Can I add force to the list of things that don't exist in your world?

The force from the spring?
But surely the spring is pushing UP. So, if the 1 kg block is simply placed on it, it is not accelerating at 9.8m/s.

You see, with my denpressure, you have a block that displaces the atmosphere it is pushed into.
Place this on a scale plate and it pushes into that atmosphere and uses the scale plate as a leverage/resistance to the atmospheric push back. You then get a reading on the scales by spring compression due to the scale plate not being solidly on the ground,

I know which one not only sounds real but is easily proven.
It's denpressure.
Gravity cannot be proven and what you adhere to is mildly clever magic but magical nonsense all the same.

Ok the block displaces atmosphere,  and the atmosphere pushes back,  all well and good,  but why is that  push directed downwards?   Why not sideways?

Because we are in an enclosed system where atmosphere cannot spill out.
We have a dome foundation and then the dome all over us.
There is no way for atmosphere to spill.
It's a pressurised system by stacking.
The only effect we can create horizontally is a slosh effect that can only start by pushing up and jumping up, compressing atmosphere above us, which will naturally compress back and push us down.
The result of that is a slosh effect around us due to atmosphere filling the immediate void left by a jump, for instance, under our feet.
Call it a horizontal fill caused by a vertical compressive jump up and leaving a lower less compressed void that is immediately filled.
Action and equal reaction.
Thus creates the crash like waves.

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 07:04:40 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 06:49:38 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 06:41:04 AM

It makes perfect sense,   F=ma   The force from the spring in the scales balances the force from the weight. 

Can I add force to the list of things that don't exist in your world?

The force from the spring?
But surely the spring is pushing UP. So, if the 1 kg block is simply placed on it, it is not accelerating at 9.8m/s.

You see, with my denpressure, you have a block that displaces the atmosphere it is pushed into.
Place this on a scale plate and it pushes into that atmosphere and uses the scale plate as a leverage/resistance to the atmospheric push back. You then get a reading on the scales by spring compression due to the scale plate not being solidly on the ground,

I know which one not only sounds real but is easily proven.
It's denpressure.
Gravity cannot be proven and what you adhere to is mildly clever magic but magical nonsense all the same.

Ok the block displaces atmosphere,  and the atmosphere pushes back,  all well and good,  but why is that  push directed downwards?   Why not sideways?

Because we are in an enclosed system where atmosphere cannot spill out.
We have a dome foundation and then the dome all over us.
There is no way for atmosphere to spill.
It's a pressurised system by stacking.
The only effect we can create horizontally is a slosh effect that can only start by pushing up and jumping up, compressing atmosphere above us, which will naturally compress back and push us down.
The result of that is a slosh effect around us due to atmosphere filling the immediate void left by a jump, for instance, under our feet.
Call it a horizontal fill caused by a vertical compressive jump up and leaving a lower less compressed void that is immediately filled.
Action and equal reaction.
Thus creates the crash like waves.

That still doesn't explain the origin of the downward force.   You jump up and the atmosphere pushes you back down,  but where does that downward push come from?

Putting it another way,  what determines the direction in stacking?   

What if I jump sideways.  Wouldn't the pressure want to push me back instead of letting me carry forward with my momentum when I lost my balance because I'm old and fat.  Why does it only work downward?

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 07:27:32 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 07:04:40 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 06:49:38 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 09, 2017, 06:41:04 AM

It makes perfect sense,   F=ma   The force from the spring in the scales balances the force from the weight. 

Can I add force to the list of things that don't exist in your world?

The force from the spring?
But surely the spring is pushing UP. So, if the 1 kg block is simply placed on it, it is not accelerating at 9.8m/s.

You see, with my denpressure, you have a block that displaces the atmosphere it is pushed into.
Place this on a scale plate and it pushes into that atmosphere and uses the scale plate as a leverage/resistance to the atmospheric push back. You then get a reading on the scales by spring compression due to the scale plate not being solidly on the ground,

I know which one not only sounds real but is easily proven.
It's denpressure.
Gravity cannot be proven and what you adhere to is mildly clever magic but magical nonsense all the same.

Ok the block displaces atmosphere,  and the atmosphere pushes back,  all well and good,  but why is that  push directed downwards?   Why not sideways?

Because we are in an enclosed system where atmosphere cannot spill out.
We have a dome foundation and then the dome all over us.
There is no way for atmosphere to spill.
It's a pressurised system by stacking.
The only effect we can create horizontally is a slosh effect that can only start by pushing up and jumping up, compressing atmosphere above us, which will naturally compress back and push us down.
The result of that is a slosh effect around us due to atmosphere filling the immediate void left by a jump, for instance, under our feet.
Call it a horizontal fill caused by a vertical compressive jump up and leaving a lower less compressed void that is immediately filled.
Action and equal reaction.
Thus creates the crash like waves.

That still doesn't explain the origin of the downward force.   You jump up and the atmosphere pushes you back down,  but where does that downward push come from?

Putting it another way,  what determines the direction in stacking?

The ground aided by the central energy, the sun.
It's a build from the centre outwards.

If you need an analogy then imagine a nozzle in the centre  of a large field. under that nozzle is a fountain.
This fountain is pumping out glue.
This glue starts to cover an area as it gets pumped up but also falls back into the fountain pool and is re-pumped over time.
As this is happening we see a skin form and under that forming skin, more liquid is pumping making it rise until the top layers push up from underlying layers that stretch out as they get pushed up.
The more energy pushing up the glue, the more glue takes it's place in that stretch as it becomes denser and denser because it takes more push.
By the time the dome is made, its s stack of expanded elements at the top and down the dome and like a big sandwich all the way down like a whole domed world rainbow sandwich.

So there's your stack.

A man stands in the middle of a crowded shopping mall. He tells a story. A story gathers the crowd.
The man explains that gravity doesn't exists and begins to talk about atmosphere being the reality to what's what on/in Earth.
One man throws a tomato at the man in the centre as soon as the trigger words of NO GRAVITY comes into play.
The person next to the tomato man starts shouting " nutter nutter, he'll predict the end of the world soon."

Laughter ensues and more and more people follow on with the abuse, whilst some walk away discussing what the man said.
"Did you understand what he meant when he said that?"
"Well not really because I stopped when he mentioned gravity wasn't real and we know it is because (drops car keys) look. This wouldn't happen without gravity."
"Yeah, you're right, he's a stark raving loony and I'll bet he's stood here tomorrow with a board proclaiming the end of the word is nigh."


There's reasons why people cannot understand stuff and it's not because they are stupid. It's because the human indoctrination programming is deeply rooted. Don't believe for one second that you are a thinker, independent of peer pressure. None of us are overall. Just some of us can actually do it in part. Some can't or refuse to, because the comfort of following mass opinion is much easier to bear...and it's actually correct. It is, but there's no enlightenment from any of it.

Anything you learn you learn by committing to memory, something that was already thought up, so you didn't really learn anything other than to mimic.

An inventor is a free thinker. A story teller of fiction is a free thinker. A story teller of known truth's from own experience without peers, is a free thinker.

Someone trying to learn my thoughts on Earth is an alternate thinker. Not exactly a free thinker but a freedom to think alternately to the program they adhered to.

It's a start and it can actually make you start to think on your own and actually add something to what I'm saying, which then makes you a free thinker.

Think for yourself, is what I'm trying to tell you. Do it for you and you might stand a better chance of grasping different concepts of things.

Don't even attempt it until you start to pick holes in your own programmed global story you were forced into.

This is a good post....

It doesn't matter if denspressure is correct, the heliocentric model, hollow Earth, or if we are just fish in a bowl...

The message of this post is fantastic and I hope it is heard

What if I jump sideways.  Wouldn't the pressure want to push me back instead of letting me carry forward with my momentum when I lost my balance because I'm old and fat.  Why does it only work downward?

Imagine being under a super slippy rubber sheet covering an area.
You're laid down and it covers you.
Think of this as the atmosphere laying on you.
Ok now you get up and realise that you have to push this slippy thing away from you but as you do, you stretch it which places a lot of extra weight on your head and shoulders and now your legs because you are trying to force this out of your way.
You are now stood up and this  rubber sheep takes your form.
So basically you are covered all over by the sheet.
It's so slippy that you can take a step forward in it and it will simply slide behind you but the sheet in front will cover you as you do this.
No matter what you will always be covered.

If you try to jump up into it, you realise that it can't just slip off you, because you are vertically pushing into it and compressing it it and yet that compression springs right back onto you and around you as it covers you.

The only thing stopping it pushing you into the ground is your feet and the density of the ground.

Ok so let's say you want to run. As you run you push into the rubber but as you do more rubber just cascades down onto you. A resistance to your run is always there and you cannot escape it....but, there is help in the fact that for every action  there is an equal and opposite reaction.

You see, as you run into the rubber you compress it or push it out of the way, This is channelled around you and fills the area you ran away from, because you are running away from the rubber so it can'y quite envelope you at the back until you send the compressed rubber around you to hit the slow filling void.
This then crashed into the rubber behind and right back onto your back with the same force that you push at the front with.

As this happens, the rubber is always trying to compress down onto you and that is why when you run you run with your body angled forward, including your head when you need to accelerate, because to accelerate means you have to add more compressive force to gain the required reaction behind.

This is why it's difficult to stop when you run and especially accelerate.


a human like analogy would be to imagine you are in a race in a single file.
As you race you have to run into people coming at you in double file. This is your compression force from your front push.
I am behind you in double file leaving a small gap.
You push into the middle of the people and force them around you.
They crash into the double me and I crash into them, pushing them back onto you as you hit the next two coming at you. And so on and so on.
Equal and opposite reaction to your action.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 12:25:17 AM

A man stands in the middle of a crowded shopping mall. He tells a story. A story gathers the crowd.
The man explains that gravity doesn't exists and begins to talk about atmosphere being the reality to what's what on/in Earth.
One man throws a tomato at the man in the centre as soon as the trigger words of NO GRAVITY comes into play.
The person next to the tomato man starts shouting " nutter nutter, he'll predict the end of the world soon."

Laughter ensues and more and more people follow on with the abuse, whilst some walk away discussing what the man said.
"Did you understand what he meant when he said that?"
"Well not really because I stopped when he mentioned gravity wasn't real and we know it is because (drops car keys) look. This wouldn't happen without gravity."
"Yeah, you're right, he's a stark raving loony and I'll bet he's stood here tomorrow with a board proclaiming the end of the word is nigh."


There's reasons why people cannot understand stuff and it's not because they are stupid. It's because the human indoctrination programming is deeply rooted. Don't believe for one second that you are a thinker, independent of peer pressure. None of us are overall. Just some of us can actually do it in part. Some can't or refuse to, because the comfort of following mass opinion is much easier to bear...and it's actually correct. It is, but there's no enlightenment from any of it.

Anything you learn you learn by committing to memory, something that was already thought up, so you didn't really learn anything other than to mimic.

An inventor is a free thinker. A story teller of fiction is a free thinker. A story teller of known truth's from own experience without peers, is a free thinker.

Someone trying to learn my thoughts on Earth is an alternate thinker. Not exactly a free thinker but a freedom to think alternately to the program they adhered to.

It's a start and it can actually make you start to think on your own and actually add something to what I'm saying, which then makes you a free thinker.

Think for yourself, is what I'm trying to tell you. Do it for you and you might stand a better chance of grasping different concepts of things.

Don't even attempt it until you start to pick holes in your own programmed global story you were forced into.

This is a good post....

It doesn't matter if denspressure is correct, the heliocentric model, hollow Earth, or if we are just fish in a bowl...

The message of this post is fantastic and I hope it is heard

That's all I ask of people in the grand scheme of things.
If they literally choose to independently think then it can open doors they thought weren't there, never mind locked.

Yet no definition of density or proof of a dome...

Quote from: PawnedScum on February 09, 2017, 09:00:16 AM

What if I jump sideways.  Wouldn't the pressure want to push me back instead of letting me carry forward with my momentum when I lost my balance because I'm old and fat.  Why does it only work downward?

Imagine being under a super slippy rubber sheet covering an area.
You're laid down and it covers you.
Think of this as the atmosphere laying on you.
Ok now you get up and realise that you have to push this slippy thing away from you but as you do, you stretch it which places a lot of extra weight on your head and shoulders and now your legs because you are trying to force this out of your way.
You are now stood up and this  rubber sheep takes your form.
So basically you are covered all over by the sheet.
It's so slippy that you can take a step forward in it and it will simply slide behind you but the sheet in front will cover you as you do this.
No matter what you will always be covered.

If you try to jump up into it, you realise that it can't just slip off you, because you are vertically pushing into it and compressing it it and yet that compression springs right back onto you and around you as it covers you.

The only thing stopping it pushing you into the ground is your feet and the density of the ground.

Ok so let's say you want to run. As you run you push into the rubber but as you do more rubber just cascades down onto you. A resistance to your run is always there and you cannot escape it....but, there is help in the fact that for every action  there is an equal and opposite reaction.

You see, as you run into the rubber you compress it or push it out of the way, This is channelled around you and fills the area you ran away from, because you are running away from the rubber so it can'y quite envelope you at the back until you send the compressed rubber around you to hit the slow filling void.
This then crashed into the rubber behind and right back onto your back with the same force that you push at the front with.

As this happens, the rubber is always trying to compress down onto you and that is why when you run you run with your body angled forward, including your head when you need to accelerate, because to accelerate means you have to add more compressive force to gain the required reaction behind.

This is why it's difficult to stop when you run and especially accelerate.


a human like analogy would be to imagine you are in a race in a single file.
As you race you have to run into people coming at you in double file. This is your compression force from your front push.
I am behind you in double file leaving a small gap.
You push into the middle of the people and force them around you.
They crash into the double me and I crash into them, pushing them back onto you as you hit the next two coming at you. And so on and so on.
Equal and opposite reaction to your action.

This analogy seems to support more that the more reasonable explanation of gases is that they exert pressure in all directions, and not only just down. Therefore there must be something else that always causes anything with mass to tend downward.  Something along the lines of Gravity I would think.

Analogies will only take you so far.  At some point you have to provide concrete evidence of your claims beyond 'thought experiments'.  The experiments for gravity have been down many times and they are there to review if you choose to do so.  Give us something we can experiment with in Denpressure other than an analogy.

If you drop it from a height of 9.8m, it apparently takes 1 second to hit the floor due to this acceleration.

This is incorrect. It will take about 1.4 seconds to hit the floor from a height of 9.8 m. A dropped object falls 4.9 m in one second. This is because it starts with a velocity of zero and is travelling 9.8m/s after one second. The average velocity during that second is [0+9.8]/2.

That's all I ask of people in the grand scheme of things.
If they literally choose to independently think then it can open doors they thought weren't there, never mind locked.

Judging by the responses, I don't think your message will be heard

Scepti, does your denpressure rely on the sole fact the atmosphere is many miles high? Like you must have this so called stack all the way to the top?

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on February 09, 2017, 09:28:43 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 12:25:17 AM

A man stands in the middle of a crowded shopping mall. He tells a story. A story gathers the crowd.
The man explains that gravity doesn't exists and begins to talk about atmosphere being the reality to what's what on/in Earth.
One man throws a tomato at the man in the centre as soon as the trigger words of NO GRAVITY comes into play.
The person next to the tomato man starts shouting " nutter nutter, he'll predict the end of the world soon."

Laughter ensues and more and more people follow on with the abuse, whilst some walk away discussing what the man said.
"Did you understand what he meant when he said that?"
"Well not really because I stopped when he mentioned gravity wasn't real and we know it is because (drops car keys) look. This wouldn't happen without gravity."
"Yeah, you're right, he's a stark raving loony and I'll bet he's stood here tomorrow with a board proclaiming the end of the word is nigh."


There's reasons why people cannot understand stuff and it's not because they are stupid. It's because the human indoctrination programming is deeply rooted. Don't believe for one second that you are a thinker, independent of peer pressure. None of us are overall. Just some of us can actually do it in part. Some can't or refuse to, because the comfort of following mass opinion is much easier to bear...and it's actually correct. It is, but there's no enlightenment from any of it.

Anything you learn you learn by committing to memory, something that was already thought up, so you didn't really learn anything other than to mimic.

An inventor is a free thinker. A story teller of fiction is a free thinker. A story teller of known truth's from own experience without peers, is a free thinker.

Someone trying to learn my thoughts on Earth is an alternate thinker. Not exactly a free thinker but a freedom to think alternately to the program they adhered to.

It's a start and it can actually make you start to think on your own and actually add something to what I'm saying, which then makes you a free thinker.

Think for yourself, is what I'm trying to tell you. Do it for you and you might stand a better chance of grasping different concepts of things.

Don't even attempt it until you start to pick holes in your own programmed global story you were forced into.

This is a good post....

It doesn't matter if denspressure is correct, the heliocentric model, hollow Earth, or if we are just fish in a bowl...

The message of this post is fantastic and I hope it is heard

That's all I ask of people in the grand scheme of things.
If they literally choose to independently think then it can open doors they thought weren't there, never mind locked.

Unless of course your independent thinking causes you to ignore doors that are already open, and create doors which are not really there or locked.

This analogy seems to support more that the more reasonable explanation of gases is that they exert pressure in all directions, and not only just down. Therefore there must be something else that always causes anything with mass to tend downward.  Something along the lines of Gravity I would think.

Then you stick with that. I have no issue with what you believe. I just leave it for those who have the ability to think outside of the box. You can't or don't want to and that's fine.

Analogies will only take you so far.  At some point you have to provide concrete evidence of your claims beyond 'thought experiments'.  The experiments for gravity have been down many times and they are there to review if you choose to do so.  Give us something we can experiment with in Denpressure other than an analogy.

Nah, you're ok. Just carry on the way you're going.
It's all there if anyone wants to try.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 06:31:54 AM

If you drop it from a height of 9.8m, it apparently takes 1 second to hit the floor due to this acceleration.

This is incorrect. It will take about 1.4 seconds to hit the floor from a height of 9.8 m. A dropped object falls 4.9 m in one second. This is because it starts with a velocity of zero and is travelling 9.8m/s after one second. The average velocity during that second is [0+9.8]/2.

It still doesn't work out for placement on a scale.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2017, 09:56:23 AM

That's all I ask of people in the grand scheme of things.
If they literally choose to independently think then it can open doors they thought weren't there, never mind locked.

Judging by the responses, I don't think your message will be heard

I never expected it to be heard by the players in it right now. I'm under no illusions about what I'm up against.

The genuine people are looking in. It's those that I hope take something from what's said. Any on here that are serious and genuine in grasping it, is a bonus to themselves in having the ability to question the global nonsense and also grasp what's being said by me and others who think alternately.
Nobody has to believe what's being said, more like try and understand it and make as much of it as possible if interested.
That's down to whoever and affects me in no way at all in my life.

Scepti, does your denpressure rely on the sole fact the atmosphere is many miles high? Like you must have this so called stack all the way to the top?

The stack obviously has to go all the way to the top. That's what ends with a dome.