satellite internet

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satellite internet
« on: January 22, 2017, 08:59:18 AM »
I have a question.  If we never been to space and there is no satellites, how do I get my satellite internet?  I am an IT Networking engineer, so I understand latency, packet-loss, VPN's ect.  The issue I see is that I have 3 internet connections in my home and my work relies heavy on latency not internet speed but the time it takes to get the data.

I will explain I have 3 internet connections.

Satellite
LTE
DSL

The area I live in is very very remote so no fiber for maybe another few years yeah it sucks.

I connected from the westcoast of the USA to a UK server every day.

Normal connections to from my satellite internet is 600-700ms (just over 1/2 second response time) for any server on the west coast.  For the UK server add 100-200 ms

Connecting via LTE my latency is about 60-80ms and connecting to the UK i get 150-250 ms

The LTE connection is land based so it's going to be faster as the satellite connection has to go up in space and then back down and is a far greater distance than just going to the UK.

Also they have to point my satellite to a specific horizon to lock in the signal, and where I am at it's pretty much straight up almost.

I also checked packet loss and checked my own files at 0% loss that (could of mimic the latency) however that is not the case. 

So in theory if satellite connections are on the ground or on towers ect.  the latency should be about the same as the LTE connections (not speeds mind you) the latency the time it takes for data to travel from one end to the other. 

My dsl connection is pretty bad in speed terms but the latency is comparable to the LTE connections perhaps slightly lower, so I did not mention it much.

IDK just some thoughts and questions.

I am all for the moon landing being a hoax though but I really think that had to do with trying to make Russia spend money on rockets going into the space instead of at us. 

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Re: satellite internet
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2017, 10:31:25 AM »
I have a question.  If we never been to space and there is no satellites, how do I get my satellite internet?  I am an IT Networking engineer, so I understand latency, packet-loss, VPN's ect.  The issue I see is that I have 3 internet connections in my home and my work relies heavy on latency not internet speed but the time it takes to get the data.

I will explain I have 3 internet connections.

Satellite
LTE
DSL

The area I live in is very very remote so no fiber for maybe another few years yeah it sucks.

I connected from the westcoast of the USA to a UK server every day.

Normal connections to from my satellite internet is 600-700ms (just over 1/2 second response time) for any server on the west coast.  For the UK server add 100-200 ms

Connecting via LTE my latency is about 60-80ms and connecting to the UK i get 150-250 ms

The LTE connection is land based so it's going to be faster as the satellite connection has to go up in space and then back down and is a far greater distance than just going to the UK.

Also they have to point my satellite to a specific horizon to lock in the signal, and where I am at it's pretty much straight up almost.

I also checked packet loss and checked my own files at 0% loss that (could of mimic the latency) however that is not the case. 

So in theory if satellite connections are on the ground or on towers ect.  the latency should be about the same as the LTE connections (not speeds mind you) the latency the time it takes for data to travel from one end to the other. 

My dsl connection is pretty bad in speed terms but the latency is comparable to the LTE connections perhaps slightly lower, so I did not mention it much.

IDK just some thoughts and questions.

I am all for the moon landing being a hoax though but I really think that had to do with trying to make Russia spend money on rockets going into the space instead of at us.

People landed in the moon and even left there retroreflectors in several places.
How dumb can you be?
I think MH370 was hijacked and the persons who did the hijacking were indeed out to prove a flat earth.

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Re: satellite internet
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 10:42:43 AM »
I have a question.  If we never been to space and there is no satellites, how do I get my satellite internet?  I am an IT Networking engineer, so I understand latency, packet-loss, VPN's ect.  The issue I see is that I have 3 internet connections in my home and my work relies heavy on latency not internet speed but the time it takes to get the data.

I will explain I have 3 internet connections.

Satellite
LTE
DSL

The area I live in is very very remote so no fiber for maybe another few years yeah it sucks.

I connected from the westcoast of the USA to a UK server every day.

Normal connections to from my satellite internet is 600-700ms (just over 1/2 second response time) for any server on the west coast.  For the UK server add 100-200 ms

Connecting via LTE my latency is about 60-80ms and connecting to the UK i get 150-250 ms

The LTE connection is land based so it's going to be faster as the satellite connection has to go up in space and then back down and is a far greater distance than just going to the UK.

Also they have to point my satellite to a specific horizon to lock in the signal, and where I am at it's pretty much straight up almost.

I also checked packet loss and checked my own files at 0% loss that (could of mimic the latency) however that is not the case. 

So in theory if satellite connections are on the ground or on towers ect.  the latency should be about the same as the LTE connections (not speeds mind you) the latency the time it takes for data to travel from one end to the other. 

My dsl connection is pretty bad in speed terms but the latency is comparable to the LTE connections perhaps slightly lower, so I did not mention it much.

IDK just some thoughts and questions.

I am all for the moon landing being a hoax though but I really think that had to do with trying to make Russia spend money on rockets going into the space instead of at us.

Satellite is an alternative "ground" network name, works different than others.

Do you believe that your computer sending signals to a satellite by passing the clouds, atmospher, thermospher and arrive the satellite, satellite is Evaluating your request and send you to the correct data that megabits per second. Are you really serious? Come one you are an engineer. Act as an engineer. Where is your Inquisitiveness.
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Re: satellite internet
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 04:50:03 PM »
I have a question.  If we never been to space and there is no satellites, how do I get my satellite internet?  I am an IT Networking engineer, so I understand latency, packet-loss, VPN's ect.  The issue I see is that I have 3 internet connections in my home and my work relies heavy on latency not internet speed but the time it takes to get the data.

I will explain I have 3 internet connections.

Satellite
LTE
DSL
The area I live in is very very remote so no fiber for maybe another few years yeah it sucks.
I connected from the westcoast of the USA to a UK server every day.
Normal connections to from my satellite internet is 600-700ms (just over 1/2 second response time) for any server on the west coast.  For the UK server add 100-200 ms
Connecting via LTE my latency is about 60-80ms and connecting to the UK i get 150-250 ms
The LTE connection is land based so it's going to be faster as the satellite connection has to go up in space and then back down and is a far greater distance than just going to the UK.

Also they have to point my satellite to a specific horizon to lock in the signal, and where I am at it's pretty much straight up almost.

I also checked packet loss and checked my own files at 0% loss that (could of mimic the latency) however that is not the case. 

So in theory if satellite connections are on the ground or on towers ect.  the latency should be about the same as the LTE connections (not speeds mind you) the latency the time it takes for data to travel from one end to the other. 

My dsl connection is pretty bad in speed terms but the latency is comparable to the LTE connections perhaps slightly lower, so I did not mention it much.

IDK just some thoughts and questions.

I am all for the moon landing being a hoax though but I really think that had to do with trying to make Russia spend money on rockets going into the space instead of at us.

Satellite is an alternative "ground" network name, works different than others.

Do you believe that your computer sending signals to a satellite by passing the clouds, atmospher, thermospher and arrive the satellite, satellite is Evaluating your request and send you to the correct data that megabits per second. Are you really serious? Come one you are an engineer. Act as an engineer. Where is your Inquisitiveness.

No, Mr İntikam you are again completely wrong and you talk rubbish.

Of course, no-one believes "that your computer sending signals to a satellite by passing the clouds, atmosphere, thermosphere and arrive the satellite"!

You claim to be an engineer, "act as an engineer" and find out what really happens, not what your fantasy ideas tell you.

To connect to satellite internet or satellite TV you need a satellite dish, satellite receiver, then an ordinary router, maybe with WiFi.

Something like this
Quote from: NBN Satellite for Australia
Regional NBN Satellite Uses
Internet access will help workers migrate to regional and remote areas of Australia.
Economic development can improve for these areas.
Tourists and Grey Nomads can gain Internet access. Social media updates promoting local areas can be made.
VOIP telephony call can be made (1/2 second latency).
Charge up devices while you are onsite. Stay longer in regional centres.
Allow for smartphone/tablet notification updates even without 3G / 4G coverage.
Download smartphone podcast (digital audio series files) updates for next leg for traveller.
eBook / Library eBook / digital newspaper / digital magazine access. Keep up to date and learn faster.
Download new emails. Send emails while onsite.
Remote tutoring / education / distant education. E.g. Online TAFE, online University, massive open online course (MOOC).
Teleworking. Access remote companies and provide digital services. E.g. Elance, Airtasker, Freelancer.
eCommerce. Sell physical and digital products worldwide. E.g. Fulfillment by Amazon (remote warehouse and sales), iStockphoto (digital media sales).
Access remote cloud computing resources such as online backup, online accounting and cloud business applications.
Remote health consultations. This could include wearable health device data reviews. Share high resolution images with specialists.
Internet of Things. River levels, water tank levels, groundwater levels, climate monitoring, soil moisture content, rainfall, wind speed.
Extend Internet access coverage with WiFi point to point wireless links.
Access online Government services.

The satellite dish requires 2 coaxial cables for receiving and transmitting.
The satellite receiver has a 12 volt 20 watt maximum power supply.
A Ethernet cable (category 5) connects the satellite receiver with your Wifi Router WAN socket.
A basic Wifi Router can use a 12 volts 6 watts maximum power supply.


NBN Satellite Connection with solar power

The calculations are based on a Northern Australia satellite connection with 3 days of power storage.
Solar panel is 200 watts or more.
Deep cycle batteries are 2 x 6 volt 180 Ah in series. This was chosen for weight reasons. 32 kilograms each.
The solar controller is 30 Amps with Maximum power point tracking (MPPT). This controls solar input, battery charging and power to load.
USB charging from a 12 volt source could keep tablets, smartphones and other devices charged in remote areas.
The satellite receiver and Wifi router should be kept below 40 degrees by careful design.

Much more in NBN Satellite for Australia.


Mr İntikam, in Australia we have very large expanses with no phone towers no microwave dishes and in these places satellite communication is real and necessary.

So keep your silly ideas to yourself. Mr Fake Engineer.
;D ;D ;D See I can fill up pages with copy'n'paste too, just like you can!  ;D ;D ;D
By the way, if satellites are fake and against Islam, why do all these Muslim countries have there own satellites?
Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, United Arab Emirates,  Iran, Kazakhstan (70% Muslim), Azerbaijan, Qatar, Iraq and Turkmenistan (89% Muslim).


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Re: satellite internet
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 05:26:49 PM »

Do you believe that your computer sending signals to a satellite by passing the clouds, atmospher, thermospher and arrive the satellite, satellite is Evaluating your request and send you to the correct data that megabits per second. Are you really serious? Come one you are an engineer. Act as an engineer. Where is your Inquisitiveness.

Yes,  you got it mostly right.  Routing IP packets is amazing technology,  I can type on my keyboard and the packets end up on the other side of the world,  going through dozens of routers, microwave links satellite links fibre optic cables,  and  other infrastructure..   and hey presto,  here it is on your computer screen...   (  downtown Istanbul? )

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: satellite internet
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2017, 12:20:04 AM »
I flew to Berlin last year. Surfed the internet while in the air, even rang people with VOIP.

Whichever way you think it got the internet (it was satellite, btw), it got it by routing my data requests back and forth through clouds to the ground and back.
Facts won't do what I want them to.

We went from a round Earth to a round Moon: http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/apollo.html