Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2017, 06:33:53 PM »
Are you joking me? With the actual technology do you really need someone to patrol? All they need to know is who's going there and why. There is any proof of someone crossing from the Atlantic shore to the Pacific shore?
This near enough?

Couldn't find it about 3 month ago! Maybe they will add some videos too, or maybe they just don't think it's important. There are some on youtube added in 2014. Youtube is 12 years old.

The International Trans-Antarctica Expedition, 1989-1990


The six members of the team at the geographic Pole, 12 December 1989

   

The International Trans-Antarctica Expedition,
1989-1990, Route



So, what that idiot is trying to say is, because we launched a heavy, (fu**ing 8,000 pounds!!), sensor pod, under a balloon, that ALL satellites are suspended under balloons?

Is that the point you are trying to convey?

Sorry, I couldn't watch more than about 15 minutes of that crap.
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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2017, 08:34:16 PM »

Get real - have you worked out how many hundreds of thousands of those you would need to replace all the GNSS, TV and communications satellites?

Flat Earthers either never think, or more than likely can't think! That's why they are Flat Earthers!
;D So that's what was racing around the earth at about 17,000 mph (28,000 km/h) back in October 1957! ;D
Pull the other one, it yodels!

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2017, 12:20:13 AM »
Hi Aries,

I see you believe that there are no satellites. Do you want to test it out yourself? Would you like to do an easy experiment? I ensure you that you will be able to see the truth only with your own eyes! No CGI, no math, no lies. Only what you actually see.

I welcome you to PM me. I'll be more than happy to work with you on this.

Hans.

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disputeone

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2017, 02:44:23 AM »
Antarctica is Real! That requires a globe Earth.

Incorrect.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2017, 03:38:20 AM »

And what does this video have to do with the topic at hand?
Can you sumarise they key points?

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2017, 07:46:44 PM »
The coastline of Antarctica is somewhat longer than the coastline of Australia (the area of Antarctica approaches that of the continental US), so any sort of armed guards at the shore of Antarctica must involve thousands of men, and since this guard must have been in place for at least 60 or 70 years, at least half a million men must have cycled through this arduous duty.  Half a million.  Anyone ever met any??  Anyone ever photographed any?

Antarctica doesn't have any military forces of any country; it is entirely demilitarized.  It has a few dozen scientific outposts scattered across its enormous expanse.  It has an environment that intimidates everyone who isn't a professional mountaineer, the more so because the scientific outposts are so remote and poorly equipped to provide rescue services.

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2017, 11:35:55 PM »
....armed guards at the shore of Antarctica must involve thousands of men, and since this guard must have been in place for at least 60 or 70 years, at least half a million men must have cycled through this arduous duty. 


Oh, so you're saying women somehow can't be Ice Wall Guards?  Sexist.   >:(

Let me guess, their boobs would get in the way.  ::)
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disputeone

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2017, 01:42:41 AM »
....armed guards at the shore of Antarctica must involve thousands of men, and since this guard must have been in place for at least 60 or 70 years, at least half a million men must have cycled through this arduous duty. 


Oh, so you're saying women somehow can't be Ice Wall Guards?  Sexist.   >:(

Let me guess, their boobs would get in the way.  ::)

Pretty sure you're trolling, however this research might interest you.

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"based on strong scientific consensus that the clear sex difference in sports performance is mainly due to the marked difference in male and female testosterone levels,"

http://archive.is/9geN6

In other news, fire is hot. Not to say Women can't guard the icewall. (SCG does a fine job.)
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Cartog

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2017, 08:04:43 AM »
OK, figure this job had cycled at least half a million men AND WOMEN through guarding the ice wall.  Has anyone met a veteran (male or female) of the ice walls?  You'd figure a good many would be seeking veteran's benefits for frostbite or similar cold weather ailments.

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Paul

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2017, 09:11:04 AM »
Wow.  Just when I thought you couldn't get any worse, now you are advocating the exclusion of everyone who doesn't subscribe to your outdated notion of gender binary.  Why exactly do you think people who identify as non and meta gendered individuals should be barred from enlistment in the Ice Wall Corps?

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2017, 02:10:19 PM »
Wow.  Just when I thought you couldn't get any worse, now you are advocating the exclusion of everyone who doesn't subscribe to your outdated notion of gender binary.  Why exactly do you think people who identify as non and meta gendered individuals should be barred from enlistment in the Ice Wall Corps?
Not gender, sex. A biological fact. Where men (or males) produce small gametes which primarily carry genetic information and women (or females) provide large gametes which contain genetic information and the machinery of the cell.

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2017, 02:11:05 PM »
The coastline of Antarctica is somewhat longer than the coastline of Australia (the area of Antarctica approaches that of the continental US), so any sort of armed guards at the shore of Antarctica must involve thousands of men, and since this guard must have been in place for at least 60 or 70 years, at least half a million men must have cycled through this arduous duty.  Half a million.  Anyone ever met any??  Anyone ever photographed any?

Antarctica doesn't have any military forces of any country; it is entirely demilitarized.  It has a few dozen scientific outposts scattered across its enormous expanse.  It has an environment that intimidates everyone who isn't a professional mountaineer, the more so because the scientific outposts are so remote and poorly equipped to provide rescue services.

What about the Penguins. They don't call them emperors for nothing...

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2017, 02:35:02 PM »
OMG I can't believe how many bigots are on this board!  Cartog and JackBlack, you mean to tell me that if your own child identified as a gender-neutral pokemon you would actually look in their eager young eyes and dash their dreams of repressing the truth of the flat-earth from humanity as an Ice Wall Guard simply because of WHO THEY ARE?  That borders on child abuse, IMHO.

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JackBlack

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2017, 03:51:08 PM »
OMG I can't believe how many bigots are on this board!  Cartog and JackBlack, you mean to tell me that if your own child identified as a gender-neutral pokemon you would actually look in their eager young eyes and dash their dreams of repressing the truth of the flat-earth from humanity as an Ice Wall Guard simply because of WHO THEY ARE?  That borders on child abuse, IMHO.
I would bitchslap them and tell them to stop using outdated sexist bullshit like gender as anything other than sex or for words, and tell them to stop living in delusional fantasies where pokemon are real.

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2017, 04:20:08 PM »
Well then I truly hope Child Protective Services rips those little sproglings from your callous arms and reassigns them to a caring family that affirms their identity as genderless pokemons and nurtures them with the confidence to pursue their dreams of one day patrolling the Ice Wall.

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disputeone

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2017, 05:26:52 PM »
Ok confirmed troll.

JackBlack the world needs more scientists like you.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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JackBlack

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2017, 01:02:15 AM »
Well then I truly hope Child Protective Services rips those little sproglings from your callous arms and reassigns them to a caring family that affirms their identity as genderless pokemons and nurtures them with the confidence to pursue their dreams of one day patrolling the Ice Wall.
How about I just stuff them into a ball instead for them to have a bit of a think?

And remember, they are human rights, not pokemon rights.

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2017, 04:10:37 PM »
« Last Edit: July 06, 2017, 04:14:07 PM by Mikey T. »

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Cartog

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2017, 12:07:11 AM »
OK, I'll try again.  If that story of armed guards at the coast of  Antarctica were true, then over the past 60 years or so, more than a half million men and women and godknowswhatelse have been cycled through the guard jobs.  I don't know what countries all these guards came from, but with so many it would seem that someone would have bumped into a veteran of the South Pole Bouncers or whatever they were called.  Also, you should have several different would-be explorers over the decades telling you that they were met at the icy shores of Antarctica by an armed guard that turned them away -- that kind of story would probably have been printed in newspapers and magazines, but big empty on that one.

Nope, no one has met a veteran of the Antarctic armed guards, nor has anyone been turned at the coast of Antarctica.
On the contrary, every year several climate study groups, glacier study groups, and penguin study groups visit Antarctica to pursue their various projects.  And ocean liners offer cruises around the whole of Antarctica.
So where did this myth of Antarctica being some sort of forbidden land get started??
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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2017, 07:17:03 AM »
OK, I'll try again.  If that story of armed guards at the coast of  Antarctica were true, then over the past 60 years or so, more than a half million men and women and godknowswhatelse have been cycled through the guard jobs.  I don't know what countries all these guards came from, but with so many it would seem that someone would have bumped into a veteran of the South Pole Bouncers or whatever they were called.  Also, you should have several different would-be explorers over the decades telling you that they were met at the icy shores of Antarctica by an armed guard that turned them away -- that kind of story would probably have been printed in newspapers and magazines, but big empty on that one.

Nope, no one has met a veteran of the Antarctic armed guards, nor has anyone been turned at the coast of Antarctica.
On the contrary, every year several climate study groups, glacier study groups, and penguin study groups visit Antarctica to pursue their various projects.  And ocean liners offer cruises around the whole of Antarctica.
So where did this myth of Antarctica being some sort of forbidden land get started??

You are completely wrong. You know the "Agency for the Round Earth Conspiracy"? They have unlimited budget and millions of people in their conspiracy BUT they have also discovered how to produce Android. These are currently the ones guarding the ice wall near the edge of the world. They are a lot easier to handle and you don`t always have to put new people in the conspiracy. Otherwise that would not be possible to keep such a secret hidden.

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2017, 01:48:22 PM »
OK, I'll try again.  If that story of armed guards at the coast of  Antarctica were true, then over the past 60 years or so, more than a half million men and women and godknowswhatelse have been cycled through the guard jobs.  I don't know what countries all these guards came from, but with so many it would seem that someone would have bumped into a veteran of the South Pole Bouncers or whatever they were called.  Also, you should have several different would-be explorers over the decades telling you that they were met at the icy shores of Antarctica by an armed guard that turned them away -- that kind of story would probably have been printed in newspapers and magazines, but big empty on that one.

Nope, no one has met a veteran of the Antarctic armed guards, nor has anyone been turned at the coast of Antarctica.
On the contrary, every year several climate study groups, glacier study groups, and penguin study groups visit Antarctica to pursue their various projects.  And ocean liners offer cruises around the whole of Antarctica.
So where did this myth of Antarctica being some sort of forbidden land get started??

So there is no Antarctica treaty? Really? Belongs to no one?

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2017, 03:27:39 PM »
OK, I'll try again.  If that story of armed guards at the coast of  Antarctica were true, then over the past 60 years or so, more than a half million men and women and godknowswhatelse have been cycled through the guard jobs.  I don't know what countries all these guards came from, but with so many it would seem that someone would have bumped into a veteran of the South Pole Bouncers or whatever they were called.  Also, you should have several different would-be explorers over the decades telling you that they were met at the icy shores of Antarctica by an armed guard that turned them away -- that kind of story would probably have been printed in newspapers and magazines, but big empty on that one.

Nope, no one has met a veteran of the Antarctic armed guards, nor has anyone been turned at the coast of Antarctica.
On the contrary, every year several climate study groups, glacier study groups, and penguin study groups visit Antarctica to pursue their various projects.  And ocean liners offer cruises around the whole of Antarctica.
So where did this myth of Antarctica being some sort of forbidden land get started??

So there is no Antarctica treaty? Really? Belongs to no one?
No, there is an Antarctic treaty, which grants open access to everyone.

I'm pretty sure I pointed this out to you before, and provided evidence which you just ignored.

How about you provide this fantasy treaty which prohibits access to Antarctica for peaceful purposes?

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2017, 02:58:31 AM »
You Round Earthers can only spill lies! You want me to show you ships that guard the Ice Wall?



BTW, the horizon is nicely flat!

How is the existence of a navy proof of Antarctic guards? Also you can't see a curve because  the camera is too close to the ground.
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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2017, 04:42:57 AM »
You Round Earthers can only spill lies! You want me to show you ships that guard the Ice Wall?



BTW, the horizon is nicely flat!

You just found a random photo of the NAVY ,and that is your proof ? Are flat earthers all that simple ? And the horizon looked flat...Oh my God.Are you aware that in this photo you are seeing only a couple kilometers in range and the circumference of Earth is 40 000km ? How do you expect to see the curvature ? Do you actually reazlize how big is our planet ???

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2017, 04:54:38 AM »
Technically speaking the horizon on a sphere is actually always curved, it just depends on the resolution of the image if it would be measurable (or anything that might add some jitter greater than the calculated deviation like waves, local gravitational anomalies or even different atmospheric density over the span of that picture).
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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2017, 04:55:55 AM »
Technically speaking the horizon on a sphere is actually always curved, it just depends on the resolution of the image if it would be measurable (or anything that might add some jitter greater than the calculated deviation like waves, local gravitational anomalies or even different atmospheric density over the span of that picture).
Technically speaking, the horizon on a sphere is always flat. That is because it is effectively the intersection of a plane with the sphere.
It is a flat circle centred on you.

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2017, 05:10:11 AM »
I know that, Jack, but it wasn't what I was after. On a (geometrically) perfect sphere there would always be some curvature as a curved line never becomes straight even with the most possible magnification, so the notion of a flat looking horizon at lower altitudes is solely to the points i raised in my previous post.
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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2017, 11:50:22 AM »
Jack is Captain Obvious.  Are you going to tell us that the sky is blues or that grapes are purple next, genius?

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2017, 01:04:59 PM »
Jack is Captain Obvious.  Are you going to tell us that the sky is blues or that grapes are purple next, genius?
Oh come on...everyone knows grapes are green. :D
Since it costs 2.72¢ to produce a penny, putting in your 2¢ if really worth 5.44¢.

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Re: Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards
« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2017, 01:07:32 PM »
Grapes are white.  Its a fact.