Let's see if you remember this

I want to teleport to the USS enterprise using aether.

I want to teleport to the USS enterprise using aether.

Change your signature. It is a lie. If somebody don't disrespect me, I don't let him to ignore list. You are saying lie. You are a liar. Shame on you mister, shame on you.

Take care you are not in my ignore list. But if you don't change your signature and continue to declare a lie, I'll add you to the list by disrespecting me with a lie, not caused by your arguments. So if I'll ignore you and add you as a "whore" to the list, that action collapses your theory. because it will be caused by your disrespecting, not your arguments. Because your signature is not an argument.

Quote from: sokarul on January 11, 2017, 02:44:03 PM

I want to teleport to the USS enterprise using aether.

Change your signature. It is a lie. If somebody don't disrespect me, I don't let him to ignore list. You are saying lie. You are a liar. Shame on you mister, shame on you.

Take care you are not in my ignore list. But if you don't change your signature and continue to declare a lie, I'll add you to the list by disrespecting me with a lie, not caused by your arguments. So if I'll ignore you and add you as a "whore" to the list, that action collapses your theory. because it will be caused by your disrespecting, not your arguments. Because your signature is not an argument.

Nope.
He is telling the truth, at least partly.
There are people on your list that merely refuted you repeatedly. That isn't disrespecting you.

Telling the truth isn't being disrespectful.
Pointing out flaws and lies is not being disrespectful.

JackBlack is a dishonored one I ignored him. If you a dishonored man as him, continue to use my name in your signature. But don't blame me when I ignore you.

JackBlack is a dishonored one I ignored him. If you a dishonored man as him, continue to use my name in your signature. But don't blame me when I ignore you.

Don't worry. We don't blame you, we pity you.
We pity your need to publicly ignore people and let everyone know you are ignoring them rather than try to deal with any refutation they make.

Quote from: sokarul on January 11, 2017, 02:44:03 PM

I want to teleport to the USS enterprise using aether.

Change your signature. It is a lie. If somebody don't disrespect me, I don't let him to ignore list. You are saying lie. You are a liar. Shame on you mister, shame on you.

Take care you are not in my ignore list. But if you don't change your signature and continue to declare a lie, I'll add you to the list by disrespecting me with a lie, not caused by your arguments. So if I'll ignore you and add you as a "whore" to the list, that action collapses your theory. because it will be caused by your disrespecting, not your arguments. Because your signature is not an argument.

Ignored for interrupting argument.

I'd say this is a classic example of someone with a persecution complex. You fit the bill almost perfectly, JR.

Though, to be fair, so do most FEers, especially the colossal failure that is our resident-retard intikam.

I've had this discussion with you before, but what you have isn't a model. Not by a long shot. At best it's a hypothesis.

As JB has said, you are projecting all your bullshit on REers. Most of the threads on your model consist of you raging about people either asking questions, misunderstanding you and/or being dishonest. From an objective standpoint, that simply isn't true; anyone can see that. Sure, some have trolled you, but that is because you are so easy to bait. It seems that if you can't handle an occasional troll on an internet forum, you should stop using the internet especially to stop purporting an idea as laughable asinine as yours.

You can claim that 'no one has refuted your model', but again that's just demonstrable empty rhetoric. Anyone who cares about objective fact and evidence knows this. Your 'model' begins and ends with a magical aether which does whatever it needs to do for the model to 'work'. I'm sure people would have a lot more respect for you and your 'model' if you simply called the aether 'magic' and be done with it; at least then you would be being honest. Your repeated assertions about your 'model' (yes, using quotation marks around the word model when referring to your ad hoc drivel is required) being logically deducted is delusional gobshite. Let me demonstrate this with a simple question: have you ever been to the equator? No? Then how can you claim any of what you assert happens there if you've never even observed it?!

As another aside, what you think constitutes evidence for your 'model' is also delusional gobshite as has been repeatedly explained to you. You literally just shoehorn your 'model' into all the evidence for a RE and say 'it fits for DET'. Total gibberish.

In sum JR, if you can't handle internet trolls from time to time when you attempt to discuss your ripe-for-the-picking fantasy DE, you either need to give up DE for the sake of your sanity, or disconnect your internet. There are no doubt many more options but I just don't care.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on January 11, 2017, 12:26:54 PM

Yet again, NO, the gradient of gravity might be larger, but we're not long enough. I made a calculation to illustrate that point, if you care enough I'll show it to you.

I would say the issue is more that we are held together predominately by forces other than gravity, however if we were much much larger, gravity would play a much bigger role in holding us together.

I'm trying to say that even though we can be torn apart by tidal forces, we'd have to be ridiculously long for that to happen.

Quote from: JackBlack on January 11, 2017, 12:58:11 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on January 11, 2017, 12:26:54 PM

Yet again, NO, the gradient of gravity might be larger, but we're not long enough. I made a calculation to illustrate that point, if you care enough I'll show it to you.

I would say the issue is more that we are held together predominately by forces other than gravity, however if we were much much larger, gravity would play a much bigger role in holding us together.

I'm trying to say that even though we can be torn apart by tidal forces, we'd have to be ridiculously long for that to happen.

And I'm saying that the issue is that we are held together by other forces and gravity isn't playing a major role. If we were much longer, then gravity would play a much larger role in keeping us together.
But the same could happen if say we were chopped into tiny pieces, like a heap of sand.

in response to the op, there may be another reason why fe'ers come and go.

it is basic human psychology  that we want to believe something, and our beliefs can be sometimes quite strong. if we believe something for many years then it becomes so ingrained in us that we dont want to change our stance on it.
if proof comes along that our belief was false we will not accept it and continue to believe anyway, disregarding this proof. this will sometimes mess with our inner conscience and we may no longer be able to face the people that we so strongly professed this belief to.
has been proven many times over by dozens of experiments in many countries. the result is always the same. our pride overrules the truth.
basically, they eventually realise they were wrong, and they were too ashamed that they actually believed such a stupid thing, and they ran away with their tail between their legs.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on January 13, 2017, 05:29:02 AM

Quote from: JackBlack on January 11, 2017, 12:58:11 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on January 11, 2017, 12:26:54 PM

Yet again, NO, the gradient of gravity might be larger, but we're not long enough. I made a calculation to illustrate that point, if you care enough I'll show it to you.

I would say the issue is more that we are held together predominately by forces other than gravity, however if we were much much larger, gravity would play a much bigger role in holding us together.

I'm trying to say that even though we can be torn apart by tidal forces, we'd have to be ridiculously long for that to happen.

And I'm saying that the issue is that we are held together by other forces and gravity isn't playing a major role. If we were much longer, then gravity would play a much larger role in keeping us together.
But the same could happen if say we were chopped into tiny pieces, like a heap of sand.

Not really, being really long doesn't necessarily mean your gravitational field is very strong. It could be that we're just really long, with our mass being pretty low.

Think of your favourite FEer. One who actually argues for FET, and isn't an obvious troll.

Therasthotenes of Mycene (452-388 BC). Little known to many historians, but an amazing researcher.

Your DET sketches come close as second. Just because they were so funny.

Quote from: JackBlack on January 13, 2017, 12:52:13 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on January 13, 2017, 05:29:02 AM

Quote from: JackBlack on January 11, 2017, 12:58:11 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on January 11, 2017, 12:26:54 PM

Yet again, NO, the gradient of gravity might be larger, but we're not long enough. I made a calculation to illustrate that point, if you care enough I'll show it to you.

I would say the issue is more that we are held together predominately by forces other than gravity, however if we were much much larger, gravity would play a much bigger role in holding us together.

I'm trying to say that even though we can be torn apart by tidal forces, we'd have to be ridiculously long for that to happen.

And I'm saying that the issue is that we are held together by other forces and gravity isn't playing a major role. If we were much longer, then gravity would play a much larger role in keeping us together.
But the same could happen if say we were chopped into tiny pieces, like a heap of sand.

Not really, being really long doesn't necessarily mean your gravitational field is very strong. It could be that we're just really long, with our mass being pretty low.

Not necessarily very strong, but having a greater influence over the cohesion of an object than at much shorter ranges, and having more influence than other forces, like inter-molecular forces.

Inter-molecular forces which hold you together are intrinsically short range.

They don't directly hold your head to your foot. Instead they hold part of your head to another part, and so on until it gets to your neck, which can then start going down your back, to your legs and then to your foot. On the other hand, gravity is holding your head directly to your foot, although very weakly.

As you enlarge an object, the inter-molecular forces holding it together remain pretty much the same. One bit is only attached by them to the bits around them. (Yes, there are more of them, but for an individual bit it remains the same)
However, the forces due to gravity increase as it gets more mass.

So if you keep enlarging it it should eventually reach a point where gravity takes over as the predominate force holding it together.

Yes, if you are well within the Roche limit, then you don't need that. But then we can be torn apart even at our size.