Air Pressure vs Gravity

Quote from: Mainframes on February 01, 2017, 04:41:10 AM

Free space and vacuums have been experimentally proven. Sorry.

Then we have no further need for correspondence.
Use another name to engage me in future. This name is obscured by the ignore feature.

Excellent. Glad I've converted you to the real world and you can let go of denpressure.

Quote from: Badxtoss on January 31, 2017, 08:19:48 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2017, 04:57:58 PM

We don't need to use a barometer as THE scale. I'm just pointing out the pressure push against resistance.
A normal everyday scale suffices for measurement but you people believe that's gravity causing weight by mass on mass.
You can't explain why and that somehow makes you right because Newton and Einstein and co said it was.
You just follow the supposed leaders.

Take away space shenanigans and a spinning Earth and gravity is not required as the magical force.
Then weirdly my denpressure becomes all too real and all too easy to see why it's real.

Whilst this Earth spin, space nonsense stays in people's minds, then so will all the rest of the added in magic that the puppeteers mentally placed before them.

Except your denspressure requires some force to make stacking work.  Without some other force the pressure would equalize throughout the dome.  And there is no explanation as to why pressure which pushes equally from all sides should push only in one direction

It doesn't pus equally from all sides. It never can.

Why not?  What's stopping the push from being equal in all directions?

And the force that makes stacking work comes from below.

What is this "stacking force" of which you speak?  I don't think that I've seen you mention it before, but it sounds an awful lot like gravity.

If this stacking force is coming from below, doesn't that mean that it's pulling the stack down?  I thought you said that there is no pull; it's all push.

For all those who have a mind to think outside of the box. I suggest you take some time out and think about denpressure. You might not understand it as of yet but if you are willing to push aside the indoctrinated so called science we've all been coaxed into accepting by force, then you might just start to see some common sense  and logic in what I'm saying.

Have a serious think about the nonsense you've been told to accept with gravity and warped space time, black holes and dark matter and all the rest of it.
Try and understand why they were made up.

To believe in the mainstream versions of global Earth so called science, you literally....and I mean, literally have to discard common sense and logic.

When the so called forces cannot be explained, such as gravity and the so called universe is explained with the big bang that apparently started from NOTHING. And a so called moon rock in space that apparently bounced off Earth and landed in orbit.

How centrifugal/centripetal force works the entirely opposite way on Earth to what we are told happens around a supposed globe.
Everything orbits on a centripetal magic string, we are told.

I could go on and on and on with the pure nonsense of it. It shouldn't really require a prompt for someone to think and see it for what it is, which is bullshit.

Certain people try to muddy my thoughts by asking what makes an up and down. They say this without having a clue how any of it works because they do not possess the ability to understand anything that is not force fed by the idols they worship.

Very few have the ability to even look. Some, in an extreme minority have the mindset to actually try to understand it out of interest and not out of acceptance.
Jane is the only one that is anywhere near seeing it for what it is.
She doesn't accept it and doesn't try to push it onto anyone. She merely explains to people what is what in the understanding of what she has taken from it, which is a great deal, so hats off to her.

It's a shame other people don't just take some time out to see if they can grasp some of it, instead of just going into  argumentative mode and ridicule mode to try and scupper it.
Why would a normal person do this?

Anyway, it's about deciphering what mainstream say and taking out the crypic of it all.

For instance: Warped space time. General relativity.
It pretends to mean something in  a fictional space that was implanted into the minds of us all.
It cannot exist to warp space in that so called environment of space. How can it?
You cannot warp nothing, which is what we're told space apparently is.

So what's the reality?

The reality is warping space is denpressure.
It works by pushing any mass into the atmosphere. the space that we all naturally know as an area that we see through or walk through.
Place anything in that space and you warp it. You displace it with a mass that warps (compresses) the matter.
That space becomes much different from the space around it, for however far the compression spans around the object displacing the atmosphere.

Dark matter.
I don't even know what the hell it's supposed to mean in the mainstream world of so called science. Do you?

The reality is simple.
Go into your unconverted loft space  without a source of light and tehre's your dark matter. Simple isn't it?
It's too simple for the egg heads.
You see, science to those people has to be complicated. It requires anything to be complicated. Even the most simplest form.
Why?
Because scientists do not want to be cast off as just an ordinary part of society. They want to be thought of as geniuses that stand out from the average bear.
They can do this by following fantasy and pushing it as real.
Or basically turning reality into complicated fantasy so ordinary thinking people cannot sort the wheat from the chaff.

If they can't dazzle you with brilliance in reality, they will baffle you with bullshit.

And gravity.
A force that isn't a force that is so weak yet so strong.
Drop a stone. It's gravity.
Measure the drop any where at any height and it's 9.8m/s/s drop in a vacuum, apparently.

Make a tide by having the moon rock that's apparently four times smaller than Earth, pull up the ocean on one side.
This creates a high tide, don't you know?
At each side of that ocean pull by the little moon rock's so called gravitations pull. the ocean naturally gets thinner at each side and that causes low tides, don't you know.
Sound realistic?...plausible?
How about the other side of Earth? What do they tell us happens to that with the moon rock at the other side?
Apparently because the moon pulls the ocean, it also pulls the Earth away from the ocean at the other side and makes that side bulge exactly the same. How clever is that?
So what are we being told and how and why do we accept this stuff?

Mass attracts mass we are told.
The moon can do all of this against the might of the so called globe and yet we still don't know what gravity is, yet can apparently calculate so accurately that we can train so called astronauts in water pools and on harnesses to mimic moon gravity at supposedly 238,000 miles away form Earth's spinning ball.


This is just a tiny fraction of the nonsense we are coaxed into accepting by basic bullying.
I know in my mind that many people question much of what they're told.
I know that most people also do not have the time or the patience to even look into Earth in any form and just accept what they're told because it's just easier to do. I agree, it is much easier by far.


I also know that real common sense, intelligent people are viewing what's being wrote on these forums.
The problem is, those people can also see that the forums are full of people who are hell bent on making sure any thought process that goes against mainstream indoctrination, is ridiculed and muddied to such an extent as to discourage people from joining in.

I deal with those people in the easiest way and will continue to do so.
I leave the yappers to yap. The crabbies and such.
Anyway, it up to each individual to make their own mind up. All I hope is for them to sit and ponder their life time of indoctrination at least, because only by doing this, is it worth your effort to look deeper.

TL;DR

Scepti doesn't understand the basics of science.

Why not?  What's stopping the push from being equal in all directions?

The stack and the object(s) in it.

What is this "stacking force" of which you speak?  I don't think that I've seen you mention it before, but it sounds an awful lot like gravity.

Of course it sounds an awful lot like gravity. Gravity is used to disguise it because gravity has to be used in space as well and the stacking of pressure cannot be used in space, so the need to change it is obvious.
The stupidity of scientists saying they lose helium and what not into space should be like a red rag to a Bull for common sense people to see as the nonsense it is.

If this stacking force is coming from below, doesn't that mean that it's pulling the stack down?  I thought you said that there is no pull; it's all push.

The fact that you are asking this after all this time, is baffling.
It's been explained perfectly well to you.
No need to come back and say it hasn't. It will be overlooked.

For all those who have a mind to think outside of the box. I suggest you take some time out and think about denpressure. You might not understand it as of yet but if you are willing to push aside the indoctrinated so called science we've all been coaxed into accepting by force, then you might just start to see some common sense  and logic in what I'm saying.

Have a serious think about the nonsense you've been told to accept with gravity and warped space time, black holes and dark matter and all the rest of it.
Try and understand why they were made up.

To believe in the mainstream versions of global Earth so called science, you literally....and I mean, literally have to discard common sense and logic.

When the so called forces cannot be explained, such as gravity and the so called universe is explained with the big bang that apparently started from NOTHING. And a so called moon rock in space that apparently bounced off Earth and landed in orbit.

How centrifugal/centripetal force works the entirely opposite way on Earth to what we are told happens around a supposed globe.
Everything orbits on a centripetal magic string, we are told.

I could go on and on and on with the pure nonsense of it. It shouldn't really require a prompt for someone to think and see it for what it is, which is bullshit.

Certain people try to muddy my thoughts by asking what makes an up and down. They say this without having a clue how any of it works because they do not possess the ability to understand anything that is not force fed by the idols they worship.

Very few have the ability to even look. Some, in an extreme minority have the mindset to actually try to understand it out of interest and not out of acceptance.
Jane is the only one that is anywhere near seeing it for what it is.
She doesn't accept it and doesn't try to push it onto anyone. She merely explains to people what is what in the understanding of what she has taken from it, which is a great deal, so hats off to her.

It's a shame other people don't just take some time out to see if they can grasp some of it, instead of just going into  argumentative mode and ridicule mode to try and scupper it.
Why would a normal person do this?

Anyway, it's about deciphering what mainstream say and taking out the crypic of it all.

For instance: Warped space time. General relativity.
It pretends to mean something in  a fictional space that was implanted into the minds of us all.
It cannot exist to warp space in that so called environment of space. How can it?
You cannot warp nothing, which is what we're told space apparently is.

So what's the reality?

The reality is warping space is denpressure.
It works by pushing any mass into the atmosphere. the space that we all naturally know as an area that we see through or walk through.
Place anything in that space and you warp it. You displace it with a mass that warps (compresses) the matter.
That space becomes much different from the space around it, for however far the compression spans around the object displacing the atmosphere.

Dark matter.
I don't even know what the hell it's supposed to mean in the mainstream world of so called science. Do you?

The reality is simple.
Go into your unconverted loft space  without a source of light and tehre's your dark matter. Simple isn't it?
It's too simple for the egg heads.
You see, science to those people has to be complicated. It requires anything to be complicated. Even the most simplest form.
Why?
Because scientists do not want to be cast off as just an ordinary part of society. They want to be thought of as geniuses that stand out from the average bear.
They can do this by following fantasy and pushing it as real.
Or basically turning reality into complicated fantasy so ordinary thinking people cannot sort the wheat from the chaff.

If they can't dazzle you with brilliance in reality, they will baffle you with bullshit.

And gravity.
A force that isn't a force that is so weak yet so strong.
Drop a stone. It's gravity.
Measure the drop any where at any height and it's 9.8m/s/s drop in a vacuum, apparently.

Make a tide by having the moon rock that's apparently four times smaller than Earth, pull up the ocean on one side.
This creates a high tide, don't you know?
At each side of that ocean pull by the little moon rock's so called gravitations pull. the ocean naturally gets thinner at each side and that causes low tides, don't you know.
Sound realistic?...plausible?
How about the other side of Earth? What do they tell us happens to that with the moon rock at the other side?
Apparently because the moon pulls the ocean, it also pulls the Earth away from the ocean at the other side and makes that side bulge exactly the same. How clever is that?
So what are we being told and how and why do we accept this stuff?

Mass attracts mass we are told.
The moon can do all of this against the might of the so called globe and yet we still don't know what gravity is, yet can apparently calculate so accurately that we can train so called astronauts in water pools and on harnesses to mimic moon gravity at supposedly 238,000 miles away form Earth's spinning ball.


This is just a tiny fraction of the nonsense we are coaxed into accepting by basic bullying.
I know in my mind that many people question much of what they're told.
I know that most people also do not have the time or the patience to even look into Earth in any form and just accept what they're told because it's just easier to do. I agree, it is much easier by far.


I also know that real common sense, intelligent people are viewing what's being wrote on these forums.
The problem is, those people can also see that the forums are full of people who are hell bent on making sure any thought process that goes against mainstream indoctrination, is ridiculed and muddied to such an extent as to discourage people from joining in.

I deal with those people in the easiest way and will continue to do so.
I leave the yappers to yap. The crabbies and such.
Anyway, it up to each individual to make their own mind up. All I hope is for them to sit and ponder their life time of indoctrination at least, because only by doing this, is it worth your effort to look deeper.

I don't really understand what your saying, you claim that we don't know what gravity is, but we do know what gravity is, its a force that attracts other objects towards the center of anything that has mass. As for the dark matter bit, from what I can understand when we look at a galaxy, it's spinning at the wrong speed based off of its mass, dark matter is just the theoroettical substance that makes up a large portion of those galaxies. What exactly is "bullshit"? What exactly is wrong with the globe earth? It honestly sounds like you are saying "this can't be right because it sounds too complicated"

Quote from: markjo on February 01, 2017, 05:28:33 AM

Why not?  What's stopping the push from being equal in all directions?

The stack and the object(s) in it.

Would you care to elaborate?

Quote from: markjo on February 01, 2017, 05:28:33 AM

What is this "stacking force" of which you speak?  I don't think that I've seen you mention it before, but it sounds an awful lot like gravity.

Of course it sounds an awful lot like gravity. Gravity is used to disguise it because gravity has to be used in space as well and the stacking of pressure cannot be used in space, so the need to change it is obvious.
The stupidity of scientists saying they lose helium and what not into space should be like a red rag to a Bull for common sense people to see as the nonsense it is.

So, what is this stacking force of which you speak?

Quote from: markjo on February 01, 2017, 05:28:33 AM

If this stacking force is coming from below, doesn't that mean that it's pulling the stack down?  I thought you said that there is no pull; it's all push.

The fact that you are asking this after all this time, is baffling.
It's been explained perfectly well to you.
No need to come back and say it hasn't. It will be overlooked.

If it's been explained perfectly well, then I wouldn't need to keep asking.  You assume that what makes perfect sense to you makes perfect sense to anyone else.  That is not a safe assumption for a "theory" as radical as denpressure, especially when you refuse to provide any mathematical or experimental evidence.

I don't really understand what your saying, you claim that we don't know what gravity is, but we do know what gravity is, its a force that attracts other objects towards the center of anything that has mass. As for the dark matter bit, from what I can understand when we look at a galaxy, it's spinning at the wrong speed based off of its mass, dark matter is just the theoroettical substance that makes up a large portion of those galaxies. What exactly is "bullshit"? What exactly is wrong with the globe earth? It honestly sounds like you are saying "this can't be right because it sounds too complicated"

Think what you want to think. I'm easy with whatever you think.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 05:58:21 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 01, 2017, 05:28:33 AM

Why not?  What's stopping the push from being equal in all directions?

The stack and the object(s) in it.

Would you care to elaborate?

Can you tell me of any stack that is uniform, anywhere on Earth?
And if so, tell me how and why it is what it is.
Then I'll tell you by showing you you can't. Assuming you tell me you can.

Quote from: markjo on February 01, 2017, 05:28:33 AM

What is this "stacking force" of which you speak?  I don't think that I've seen you mention it before, but it sounds an awful lot like gravity.

Of course it sounds an awful lot like gravity. Gravity is used to disguise it because gravity has to be used in space as well and the stacking of pressure cannot be used in space, so the need to change it is obvious.
The stupidity of scientists saying they lose helium and what not into space should be like a red rag to a Bull for common sense people to see as the nonsense it is.

So, what is this stacking force of which you speak?

you've been told many times.

Quote from: markjo on February 01, 2017, 05:28:33 AM

If this stacking force is coming from below, doesn't that mean that it's pulling the stack down?  I thought you said that there is no pull; it's all push.

The fact that you are asking this after all this time, is baffling.
It's been explained perfectly well to you.
No need to come back and say it hasn't. It will be overlooked.

If it's been explained perfectly well, then I wouldn't need to keep asking.  You assume that what makes perfect sense to you makes perfect sense to anyone else.  That is not a safe assumption for a "theory" as radical as denpressure, especially when you refuse to provide any mathematical or experimental evidence.

I'm not asking for you to think it makes perfect sense. I'm telling you that you've been a part of this for long enough to have seen the answers to the questions you're going into, again.
I'm not buying into you clap trap attitude.

Why would losing helium to space be nonsense?

Quote from: markjo

So, what is this stacking force of which you speak?

you've been told many times.

So, what is the "stacking force"?

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 07:13:03 AM

Quote from: markjo

So, what is this stacking force of which you speak?

you've been told many times.

So, what is the "stacking force"?

I'd tell you if I thought you had a brain instead of a air head.

Quote from: Badxtoss on February 01, 2017, 01:44:05 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 11:11:09 PM

Quote from: Badxtoss on January 31, 2017, 08:19:48 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2017, 04:57:58 PM

We don't need to use a barometer as THE scale. I'm just pointing out the pressure push against resistance.
A normal everyday scale suffices for measurement but you people believe that's gravity causing weight by mass on mass.
You can't explain why and that somehow makes you right because Newton and Einstein and co said it was.
You just follow the supposed leaders.

Take away space shenanigans and a spinning Earth and gravity is not required as the magical force.
Then weirdly my denpressure becomes all too real and all too easy to see why it's real.

Whilst this Earth spin, space nonsense stays in people's minds, then so will all the rest of the added in magic that the puppeteers mentally placed before them.

Except your denspressure requires some force to make stacking work.  Without some other force the pressure would equalize throughout the dome.  And there is no explanation as to why pressure which pushes equally from all sides should push only in one direction

It doesn't pus equally from all sides. It never can.
And the force that makes stacking work comes from below.

Ok what is that force, how does it work?

I feel I have to start from the very beginning to explain it to you and even when I do that, I have the feeling that you will then say "so what is the force."
On that note, I think I'll pick and choose when to engage you, because I seriously think your mindset is to try and take the piss and deflect my attention away.
I've already taken you out of the bin. I can easily put you back.

I'm confused.  You have said you are willing to engage with people and answers questions.  I asked a question about stacking.  You said the force requires comes from below, ok, I asked the obvious follow up question but now you say I am trying to distract you.
You are on a discussion board.  I am trying to discuss this with you.  I do not insult or belittle you, I ask you honest questions about your theory.
Stacking is the key to it.  You have said this.  Now you say the force comes from below.  I am simply asking how that force works. 
For instance, I understand, on a very basic level, how gravity works, at least as it concerns the sort of microcosm around us.  I believe physicists have not yet defined exactly what it is or what makes it do what it does, but on this smaller scale they pretty much understand the mechanics of it.
So I get it if there are aspects of this force you are talking about that cannot be defined fully.  That's fair.  But I am asking about the mechanics of it on its more basic level.  That also seems fair.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on February 01, 2017, 09:11:30 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 07:13:03 AM

Quote from: markjo

So, what is this stacking force of which you speak?

you've been told many times.

So, what is the "stacking force"?

I'd tell you if I thought you had a brain instead of a air head.

It would be really interesting to have a meeting round a table with you.  You do not talk to people like that if you want to have anyone interested in your views.

I'm confused.  You have said you are willing to engage with people and answers questions.  I asked a question about stacking.  You said the force requires comes from below, ok, I asked the obvious follow up question but now you say I am trying to distract you.
You are on a discussion board.  I am trying to discuss this with you.  I do not insult or belittle you, I ask you honest questions about your theory.
Stacking is the key to it.  You have said this.  Now you say the force comes from below.  I am simply asking how that force works. 
For instance, I understand, on a very basic level, how gravity works, at least as it concerns the sort of microcosm around us.  I believe physicists have not yet defined exactly what it is or what makes it do what it does, but on this smaller scale they pretty much understand the mechanics of it.
So I get it if there are aspects of this force you are talking about that cannot be defined fully.  That's fair.  But I am asking about the mechanics of it on its more basic level.  That also seems fair.

I don't trust you for some reason. I dislike you for some reason and I can't quite put my finger on it, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you back into the bin.

I'm so sure your goal is never to grasp anything I say and I can't waste any time on you.
Sorry about that.
Maybe use another name and try again or just forget I exist.

Quote from: Badxtoss on February 01, 2017, 09:32:35 AM

I'm confused.  You have said you are willing to engage with people and answers questions.  I asked a question about stacking.  You said the force requires comes from below, ok, I asked the obvious follow up question but now you say I am trying to distract you.
You are on a discussion board.  I am trying to discuss this with you.  I do not insult or belittle you, I ask you honest questions about your theory.
Stacking is the key to it.  You have said this.  Now you say the force comes from below.  I am simply asking how that force works. 
For instance, I understand, on a very basic level, how gravity works, at least as it concerns the sort of microcosm around us.  I believe physicists have not yet defined exactly what it is or what makes it do what it does, but on this smaller scale they pretty much understand the mechanics of it.
So I get it if there are aspects of this force you are talking about that cannot be defined fully.  That's fair.  But I am asking about the mechanics of it on its more basic level.  That also seems fair.

I don't trust you for some reason. I dislike you for some reason and I can't quite put my finger on it, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you back into the bin.

I'm so sure your goal is never to grasp anything I say and I can't waste any time on you.
Sorry about that.
Maybe use another name and try again or just forget I exist.

Again, scepti ignores me for doing the very thing he says he is here to do.  Discuss his theory and talk to people about it.  I have only asked him legitimate questions and never insulted him.  It is interesting don't you think?

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 09:55:49 AM

Quote from: Badxtoss on February 01, 2017, 09:32:35 AM

I'm confused.  You have said you are willing to engage with people and answers questions.  I asked a question about stacking.  You said the force requires comes from below, ok, I asked the obvious follow up question but now you say I am trying to distract you.
You are on a discussion board.  I am trying to discuss this with you.  I do not insult or belittle you, I ask you honest questions about your theory.
Stacking is the key to it.  You have said this.  Now you say the force comes from below.  I am simply asking how that force works. 
For instance, I understand, on a very basic level, how gravity works, at least as it concerns the sort of microcosm around us.  I believe physicists have not yet defined exactly what it is or what makes it do what it does, but on this smaller scale they pretty much understand the mechanics of it.
So I get it if there are aspects of this force you are talking about that cannot be defined fully.  That's fair.  But I am asking about the mechanics of it on its more basic level.  That also seems fair.

I don't trust you for some reason. I dislike you for some reason and I can't quite put my finger on it, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you back into the bin.

I'm so sure your goal is never to grasp anything I say and I can't waste any time on you.
Sorry about that.
Maybe use another name and try again or just forget I exist.

Again, scepti ignores me for doing the very thing he says he is here to do.  Discuss his theory and talk to people about it.  I have only asked him legitimate questions and never insulted him.  It is interesting don't you think?

Nah, I'm just kidding you.
Ok, so you want to try and understand it, right?

Before I tell you anything I want you to tell me all the stuff you can't get your head around and why.
I'll then address each point and see where we go from there.

Quote from: Badxtoss on February 01, 2017, 10:00:12 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 09:55:49 AM

Quote from: Badxtoss on February 01, 2017, 09:32:35 AM

I'm confused.  You have said you are willing to engage with people and answers questions.  I asked a question about stacking.  You said the force requires comes from below, ok, I asked the obvious follow up question but now you say I am trying to distract you.
You are on a discussion board.  I am trying to discuss this with you.  I do not insult or belittle you, I ask you honest questions about your theory.
Stacking is the key to it.  You have said this.  Now you say the force comes from below.  I am simply asking how that force works. 
For instance, I understand, on a very basic level, how gravity works, at least as it concerns the sort of microcosm around us.  I believe physicists have not yet defined exactly what it is or what makes it do what it does, but on this smaller scale they pretty much understand the mechanics of it.
So I get it if there are aspects of this force you are talking about that cannot be defined fully.  That's fair.  But I am asking about the mechanics of it on its more basic level.  That also seems fair.

I don't trust you for some reason. I dislike you for some reason and I can't quite put my finger on it, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you back into the bin.

I'm so sure your goal is never to grasp anything I say and I can't waste any time on you.
Sorry about that.
Maybe use another name and try again or just forget I exist.

Again, scepti ignores me for doing the very thing he says he is here to do.  Discuss his theory and talk to people about it.  I have only asked him legitimate questions and never insulted him.  It is interesting don't you think?

Nah, I'm just kidding you.
Ok, so you want to try and understand it, right?

Before I tell you anything I want you to tell me all the stuff you can't get your head around and why.
I'll then address each point and see where we go from there.

I asked a very specific question.  How does this force from below work?  As far as I can tell this is the first time you have mentioned it.  But every analogy you give seems to require something of this kind.  I understand that these are analogies but now you say that there is this force from below.  How does that force work?

I asked a very specific question.  How does this force from below work?  As far as I can tell this is the first time you have mentioned it.  But every analogy you give seems to require something of this kind.  I understand that these are analogies but now you say that there is this force from below.  How does that force work?

Without going into how the sun works, let's accept that my sun  in the centre of Earth's circle.

The suns energy inside Earth creates pressure veins or fissures. Think of it like a tree root pushing out but only super hot expanded molten energy from that central carbon arc sun core.

Ok, all of this stuff creates more expansion and that expansion pushed up through more dense matter and using the more dense matter below as the leverage to that push up.

This continues in what we see as solid matter until it gets less dense and less dense as the matter expands and separates.

Think of it like a jaw breaker.

Now here's the key so put some thought into this.
That jawbreaker would be the dense matter in the Earth. Super dense and holding all the ingredients for all mater.
Take this as a singular piece of matter.

Ok so now we have to break this down.
We have to add energy to expand some of this, upwards.

The way it works in by super energy peeling it but as it peels, that peeled part decompresses and becomes a part of the jawbreaker. A hanger on between others of s similar look at that depth in the energy zone.

The core of this jawbreaker would be your hydrogen/helium type elements.
They are super compressed at that depth but as the jawbreaker was peeled, the closer you get to each singular element.

Add the clingers on to each other and you create different elements to our vision and usage, kind of thing.

Ok,  so every time this is happening, you're creating a push against resistance by expansion into more dense matter that tries to crush the matter  but only pushes it up.

This happens all the way to the top where you are nearly all peeled of jawbreaker and only leave so many skins.
This is when it becomes a liquid up top, like water and eventually atmosphere.

It's still a smaller dense piece of matter when pushed into other similar pieces until the stack up becomes such that there isn't enough leverage to push up against below.
We then end up with a upper dome of clear frozen expanded molecules against a true vacuum.

For all those who have a mind to think outside of the box. I suggest you take some time out and think about denpressure. You might not understand it as of yet but if you are willing to push aside the indoctrinated so called science we've all been coaxed into accepting by force, then you might just start to see some common sense  and logic in what I'm saying.

Test it.

Make some predictions using denpressure. Carry out some experiments to test those predictions. Present details of the experiments and your results so that others can try to replicate them.

This is the only way that denpressure will get or deserve any credibility, in my view.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 05:48:50 AM

For all those who have a mind to think outside of the box. I suggest you take some time out and think about denpressure. You might not understand it as of yet but if you are willing to push aside the indoctrinated so called science we've all been coaxed into accepting by force, then you might just start to see some common sense  and logic in what I'm saying.

Test it.

Make some predictions using denpressure. Carry out some experiments to test those predictions. Present details of the experiments and your results so that others can try to replicate them.

This is the only way that denpressure will get or deserve any credibility, in my view.

I don't need to test it. I've done my tests.
It's down to whoever wants to try and understand what it's all about by taking time out to piece together what I'm saying.
Denpressure will never be recognised by mainstream. It will always be passed off as nonsense and ridiculed because it destroys the bullshit given out as real by the past and present puppet masters.

Too many people on here spend too much of their time trying their best to ridicule it and they don't have a clue what they're ridiculing.
That tells me that most people are merely gate keeping the official lines no matter what.

I honestly do not care who dismisses what I say. I have no affiliation with anyone.
However, I do have the utmost respect of the person behind any name that attempts to understand what I'm saying and continue to try, no matter how long it takes.

Very few (as I've said) do this and only one (Jane) has any real idea about what I'm saying but she's getting jumped upon by people who think she's promoting what I'm saying, when she's simply explaining what she's grasped and trying to help people who ask questions on it.

If people prefer to just gate keep an already set out bunch of nonsense like the globe and all the clap trap that goes with it, then go for it, but your mind is that of a parrot whilst you do that.

Those who at least try to look for alternatives  or try to understand alternatives, are, to me, thinkers on a genuine level and worth my time.

Please show us these tests you've performed and their results.

Quote from: Badxtoss on February 01, 2017, 10:10:16 AM

I asked a very specific question.  How does this force from below work?  As far as I can tell this is the first time you have mentioned it.  But every analogy you give seems to require something of this kind.  I understand that these are analogies but now you say that there is this force from below.  How does that force work?

Without going into how the sun works, let's accept that my sun  in the centre of Earth's circle.

The suns energy inside Earth creates pressure veins or fissures. Think of it like a tree root pushing out but only super hot expanded molten energy from that central carbon arc sun core.

Ok, all of this stuff creates more expansion and that expansion pushed up through more dense matter and using the more dense matter below as the leverage to that push up.

This continues in what we see as solid matter until it gets less dense and less dense as the matter expands and separates.

Think of it like a jaw breaker.

Now here's the key so put some thought into this.
That jawbreaker would be the dense matter in the Earth. Super dense and holding all the ingredients for all mater.
Take this as a singular piece of matter.

Ok so now we have to break this down.
We have to add energy to expand some of this, upwards.

The way it works in by super energy peeling it but as it peels, that peeled part decompresses and becomes a part of the jawbreaker. A hanger on between others of s similar look at that depth in the energy zone.

The core of this jawbreaker would be your hydrogen/helium type elements.
They are super compressed at that depth but as the jawbreaker was peeled, the closer you get to each singular element.

Add the clingers on to each other and you create different elements to our vision and usage, kind of thing.

Ok,  so every time this is happening, you're creating a push against resistance by expansion into more dense matter that tries to crush the matter  but only pushes it up.

This happens all the way to the top where you are nearly all peeled of jawbreaker and only leave so many skins.
This is when it becomes a liquid up top, like water and eventually atmosphere.

It's still a smaller dense piece of matter when pushed into other similar pieces until the stack up becomes such that there isn't enough leverage to push up against below.
We then end up with a upper dome of clear frozen expanded molecules against a true vacuum.

I wonder if scepti realizes that his jawbreaker model kinda, sorta resembles the generally accepted model of the round earth, give or take the RE having a highly compressed iron/nickel core instead of super dense hydrogen/helium.

I was wondering how and at what point in the model the spherical jawbreaker became a flat earth plane too

Well, he was talking about his sun, but the RE sun has layers too and is made up of highly compressed hydrogen and helium.

Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 02, 2017, 01:05:29 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 05:48:50 AM

For all those who have a mind to think outside of the box. I suggest you take some time out and think about denpressure. You might not understand it as of yet but if you are willing to push aside the indoctrinated so called science we've all been coaxed into accepting by force, then you might just start to see some common sense  and logic in what I'm saying.

Test it.

Make some predictions using denpressure. Carry out some experiments to test those predictions. Present details of the experiments and your results so that others can try to replicate them.

This is the only way that denpressure will get or deserve any credibility, in my view.

I don't need to test it. I've done my tests.

That's good. Why not share your results? Then denpressure can be properly judged on how it measures up to real world observations.

Well, he was talking about his sun, but the RE sun has layers too and is made up of highly compressed hydrogen and helium.

Ah I see now. So this sun which is deep inside the Earth beams up through a crystal of some sort to project the sun and moon onto the dome. Presumably this crystal or beam exit location must be in the arctic somewhere near the North pole? I've never heard of or seen any evidence of such a thing. Not meaning to derail the thread, just curious.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 02, 2017, 02:13:58 AM

Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 02, 2017, 01:05:29 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 05:48:50 AM

For all those who have a mind to think outside of the box. I suggest you take some time out and think about denpressure. You might not understand it as of yet but if you are willing to push aside the indoctrinated so called science we've all been coaxed into accepting by force, then you might just start to see some common sense  and logic in what I'm saying.

Test it.

Make some predictions using denpressure. Carry out some experiments to test those predictions. Present details of the experiments and your results so that others can try to replicate them.

This is the only way that denpressure will get or deserve any credibility, in my view.

I don't need to test it. I've done my tests.

That's good. Why not share your results? Then denpressure can be properly judged on how it measures up to real world observations.

I think I explained what's what. Absorb it.

Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 02, 2017, 08:02:28 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 02, 2017, 02:13:58 AM

Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 02, 2017, 01:05:29 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 05:48:50 AM

For all those who have a mind to think outside of the box. I suggest you take some time out and think about denpressure. You might not understand it as of yet but if you are willing to push aside the indoctrinated so called science we've all been coaxed into accepting by force, then you might just start to see some common sense  and logic in what I'm saying.

Test it.

Make some predictions using denpressure. Carry out some experiments to test those predictions. Present details of the experiments and your results so that others can try to replicate them.

This is the only way that denpressure will get or deserve any credibility, in my view.

I don't need to test it. I've done my tests.

That's good. Why not share your results? Then denpressure can be properly judged on how it measures up to real world observations.

I think I explained what's what. Absorb it.

A picture is worth a thousand words.  Actions speak louder than words.  Etc., etc.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 02, 2017, 08:45:36 AM

Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 02, 2017, 08:02:28 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 02, 2017, 02:13:58 AM

Quote from: Copper Knickers on February 02, 2017, 01:05:29 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 01, 2017, 05:48:50 AM

For all those who have a mind to think outside of the box. I suggest you take some time out and think about denpressure. You might not understand it as of yet but if you are willing to push aside the indoctrinated so called science we've all been coaxed into accepting by force, then you might just start to see some common sense  and logic in what I'm saying.

Test it.

Make some predictions using denpressure. Carry out some experiments to test those predictions. Present details of the experiments and your results so that others can try to replicate them.

This is the only way that denpressure will get or deserve any credibility, in my view.

I don't need to test it. I've done my tests.

That's good. Why not share your results? Then denpressure can be properly judged on how it measures up to real world observations.

I think I explained what's what. Absorb it.

A picture is worth a thousand words.  Actions speak louder than words.  Etc., etc.

Your pictures are worth nothing to me.
Just an attempt to divert what I'm saying into a supposed global Earth nonsense that you people swallow, hook line and sinker.