Looking at the sun is good for you.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #480 on: April 11, 2017, 05:07:08 PM »
The FACT is UV radiation is a high energy ionising radiation which is harmful to cells. Tell me again why the cells in your eye are exempt?

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #482 on: April 12, 2017, 03:51:04 PM »
Moderate sun exposure increases the production of vitamin D. These days we can take a capsule instead. Your buddy Mercola is probably a huge fan of them. He'll probably even link the 'Winter blues' to the lack of vitamin D production from the suns strength being a lot lower.

It is totally pointless and unnecessary to have any UV ray go directly through your pupils. It is just a crazy stupid idea. The damage is cumulative.

We except the cumulative damage on our skin because there are benefits to the sun exposure through vitamin D production and it's also cleansing (kills germs). There is a huge difference in getting wrinkles and age spots and your quality of life, then having that same damage in your eyeballs and the impact on your quality of life that will have. Our skin is far better equipped (especially darker skin) to handle sun exposure than our eyes. We simple didn't evolve to stare at the sun for any length of time. There are no imagined benefits to do so. Especially in the modern age with vitamin D supplements and IR lamps which are pretty harmless. UV? Harmful.

You are going to do whatever you want to do. It's your body and I'm not fussed and wont lose any sleep no matter how much damage happens to you.
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #484 on: April 12, 2017, 04:17:12 PM »
Very limited sun exposure but in the modern age in the first world, the need for sun exposure can be rendered irrelevant anyway. And if you are white, incidental sun exposure is enough to grab your vitamin D needs (such as driving in a car or going to your mailbox)

It is one thing to have sun exposure on skin which has adapted to receiving it. And something completely different to sun exposure inside your eyes which has never evolved to deal with it. What exactly do you think you will gain that can not be obtained any other way?

'Sun gazing' or whatever nicer sounding term you want to name it has zero benefits and plenty of detriments. Get yourself an IR lamp, shut your eyes and from a distance that doesn't heat up the inside of your eyeball so much, 'look' at the lamp for a few seconds (the IR waves will penetrate the thin eyelid skin). THAT is far better looking directly at the sun.
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #485 on: April 14, 2017, 09:40:53 AM »
Very limited sun exposure but in the modern age in the first world, the need for sun exposure can be rendered irrelevant anyway. And if you are white, incidental sun exposure is enough to grab your vitamin D needs (such as driving in a car or going to your mailbox)

Sun exposure can be rendered irrelevant?

What nonsense.

There is no artifical replacement.


Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #486 on: April 14, 2017, 02:07:27 PM »
See? You admit sun exposure is healthy and cleansing.

So why are you such an angry tool?
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #487 on: April 14, 2017, 05:07:03 PM »
See? You admit sun exposure is healthy and cleansing.

So why are you such an angry tool?
Maybe a bit :P too much sun  :P!
Now I know Liberace said "Too much of a good thing is wonderful"

But . . . . . . . . . !

I know I've been accused of not having much of a sense of humour,
But, I think that, Arealhumanbeing is probably the first with none, zilch, nada or whatever!

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #488 on: April 17, 2017, 09:08:21 AM »
Looking at the sun is good for you.  :)

Seriously.

Im not trying to do anything other than spread the good knowledge I have obtained through experience.

Stare at the sun at sun up and sun down.

It cleanses your pineal gland.

Your third eye.

IT IS REAL.

It is the MINDS EYE.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #489 on: April 17, 2017, 02:56:21 PM »
Lets say for arguments sake that your pineal gland could be 'cleansed' by looking at the sun......

Is it worth bombarding every cell and nerve in your eyeball to damaging UV radiation? Is it the UV radiation that does its magic to the pineal gland or some other pathway that can be replicated without the sun.

Your eye is a lens, in the same way holding a lens in the sun on an ant cooks the ant by focusing the heat in a narrow point, the same thing works inside your eyeball.

Just because someone masquerading as a health specialist says sun staring is good and cleanses the pineal gland, doesn't mean that it does. If it really does, please point me in the direction of peer reviewed research articles stating this. Surely Mercola would have, if it is indeed true and if he was a REAL doctor.

the only thing REAL is that UV radiation is damaging to our cells and especially our eyes.

You're still young. I was once a fan of the likes of Mercola and Mike Adams myself. Then age gave me a little wisdom and then I realised that they are the ones who's advice is doing the real harm in society and that they are frauds and fear mongering for a quick and easy buck.
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #490 on: April 17, 2017, 03:53:51 PM »
Im not making any money by sitting here and typing this.

What I say is true.

The government wants your third eye shut, so they can take advantage of your blindess.

Many truths such as sun gazing, Earths shape, and the existence of God are intentionally hidden from you.

Knowldge is power.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #491 on: April 17, 2017, 04:26:25 PM »
Almost every government uses God and was founded on the ideals of God and make no secret about it. Some unlucky countries mandate the belief in God or you will be executed. I'm not sure where you are going with that one.

I don't believe you make money from spouting ignorance on here but the people that suckered you in sure hope it nets them more publicity and thus more money. You are unknowingly working for them

Not looking at the sun doesn't 'close your mind' and there is no secret government agenda designed to keep you in the dark on issues. I know this may comes as a bit of a shock but to the uber wealthy, elites and the government, you are insignificant, unimportant and unknown.



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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #492 on: April 17, 2017, 07:30:28 PM »
Im not making any money by sitting here and typing this.

May I please correct the rest of your post?
Arealhumanbeing claims, "What I say is true."
Arealhumanbeing claims that, "The government wants your third eye shut, so they can take advantage of your blindess."
Arealhumanbeing claims that, "Many truths such as sun gazing, Earths shape, and the existence of God are intentionally hidden from you."
Arealhumanbeing claims that, "Knowldge is power."
I think that "Knowledge is power."
But how you connect "Earth's shape" with this I'll never work out.

The earth has been considered a Globe for thousands of years and many in the early church were very explicit about that!
I can assure you that the group Creation Ministries is a very strongly anti-evolution, young earth creation group,
but they are almost as strongly anti-flat earth as they are anti-evolution.
For all that, they do not condemn people that believe differently the way you do.

I do believe that they have researched this matter very thoroughly. Just take a look at:
Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Earth Is Not Spinning « Message by rabinoz on January 23, 2016, 05:13:17 PM » containing this
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The flat earth’s two main proponents were obscure figures named Lactantius (c. 240 – c. 320) and Cosmas Indicopleustes (6th century; the last name means “voyager to India”). However, they were hugely outweighed by tens of thousands of Christian theologians, poets, artists, scientists, and rulers who unambiguously affirmed that the earth was round. Russell documents accounts supporting earth’s sphericity from numerous medieval church scholars such as friar Roger Bacon (1220–1292), inventor of spectacles; leading medieval scientists such as John Buridan (1301–1358) and Nicholas Oresme (1320–1382); the monk John of Sacrobosco (c. 1195–c. 1256) who wrote Treatise on the Sphere, and many more.

One of the best-known proponents of a globe-shaped earth was the early English monk, theologian and historian, the Venerable Bede (673–735), who popularized the common BC/AD dating system. Less well known was that he was also a leading astronomer of his day.

And here is what Bede said about the shape of the earth—round “like a ball” not “like a shield”:
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We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth’s circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe. … For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides.”

From Creation.com, The flat earth myth

But you, Arealhumanbeing, think that you are so much wiser than all these real humans beings, and claim that the Globe is a modern invention of someone, maybe NASA, Freemasons or who I can't fathom.

By the way, in the time of Paul the Apostle, who was Saul of Tarsus,
it seems that the Hebrews would have believed that the earth was flat and the Greeks that it was a Globe, agreed?
Yet Paul could say,
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There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
He makes no mention of those Greeks having to give up all these ideas of a Globe earth.
Surely if the shape of the earth was so vital an issue he would have mentioned it somewhere.
Yes, I know that he also wrote
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For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
But there is nothing to connect this with the shape of the earth, other that the so-call wisdom of some people.

But you, in your modern wisdom, completely ignore all this.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #493 on: April 18, 2017, 09:04:18 AM »
For the same reason that people who dont get enough sun become depressed.

What makes you think that it's the UV radiation that affects depression?
A light therapy box mimics outdoor light. Researchers believe this type of light causes a chemical change in the brain that lifts your mood and eases other symptoms of SAD.

Generally, the light box should:

    Provide an exposure to 10,000 lux of light
    Emit as little UV light as possible
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #494 on: April 19, 2017, 07:49:48 AM »
But you, Arealhumanbeing, think that you are so much wiser than all these real humans beings, and claim that the Globe is a modern invention of someone, maybe NASA, Freemasons or who I can't fathom.

Please, show me where I claimed the globe to be a modern invention.

Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #495 on: April 19, 2017, 08:04:24 AM »
I suggest you stare at the sun at noon  :)

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #497 on: April 19, 2017, 08:22:35 AM »
I suggest you stare at the sun at noon  :)

No, dont do that. Only gaze at sun up or sun down, near the horizon.

I was being sarcastic

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #498 on: April 19, 2017, 08:51:56 AM »
Im not making any money by sitting here and typing this.

May I please correct the rest of your post?
Arealhumanbeing claims, "What I say is true."
Arealhumanbeing claims that, "The government wants your third eye shut, so they can take advantage of your blindess."
Arealhumanbeing claims that, "Many truths such as sun gazing, Earths shape, and the existence of God are intentionally hidden from you."
Arealhumanbeing claims that, "Knowldge is power."
I think that "Knowledge is power."
But how you connect "Earth's shape" with this I'll never work out.

The earth has been considered a Globe for thousands of years and many in the early church were very explicit about that!
I can assure you that the group Creation Ministries is a very strongly anti-evolution, young earth creation group,
but they are almost as strongly anti-flat earth as they are anti-evolution.
For all that, they do not condemn people that believe differently the way you do.

I do believe that they have researched this matter very thoroughly. Just take a look at:
Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Earth Is Not Spinning « Message by rabinoz on January 23, 2016, 05:13:17 PM » containing this
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The flat earth’s two main proponents were obscure figures named Lactantius (c. 240 – c. 320) and Cosmas Indicopleustes (6th century; the last name means “voyager to India”). However, they were hugely outweighed by tens of thousands of Christian theologians, poets, artists, scientists, and rulers who unambiguously affirmed that the earth was round. Russell documents accounts supporting earth’s sphericity from numerous medieval church scholars such as friar Roger Bacon (1220–1292), inventor of spectacles; leading medieval scientists such as John Buridan (1301–1358) and Nicholas Oresme (1320–1382); the monk John of Sacrobosco (c. 1195–c. 1256) who wrote Treatise on the Sphere, and many more.

One of the best-known proponents of a globe-shaped earth was the early English monk, theologian and historian, the Venerable Bede (673–735), who popularized the common BC/AD dating system. Less well known was that he was also a leading astronomer of his day.

And here is what Bede said about the shape of the earth—round “like a ball” not “like a shield”:
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We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth’s circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe. … For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides.”

From Creation.com, The flat earth myth

But you, Arealhumanbeing, think that you are so much wiser than all these real humans beings, and claim that the Globe is a modern invention of someone, maybe NASA, Freemasons or who I can't fathom.

By the way, in the time of Paul the Apostle, who was Saul of Tarsus,
it seems that the Hebrews would have believed that the earth was flat and the Greeks that it was a Globe, agreed?
Yet Paul could say,
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There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
He makes no mention of those Greeks having to give up all these ideas of a Globe earth.
Surely if the shape of the earth was so vital an issue he would have mentioned it somewhere.
Yes, I know that he also wrote
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For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
But there is nothing to connect this with the shape of the earth, other that the so-call wisdom of some people.

But you, in your modern wisdom, completely ignore all this.
Shillinoz would you really take all the time to type all this bs if you weren't getting paid for it..
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #499 on: April 19, 2017, 12:00:21 PM »
I suggest you stare at the sun at noon  :)

No, dont do that. Only gaze at sun up or sun down, near the horizon.
Lucky the earth is round then isn't it?  Otherwise you wouldn't have an horizon.
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #500 on: April 19, 2017, 12:43:06 PM »
Is the the claim also that proper sun gazing can help when a person already wears glasses and their correction is getting worse in one eye or both?

I haven't seen this discussed specifically, but I could have missed it...



 

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #501 on: April 19, 2017, 06:04:19 PM »
Here is something I found which is complete and utter garbage

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_sol67.htm

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Safe Sungazing Practice
 
 Sungazing is a one-time practice of your lifetime usually for a period of 9 months.

 

You can break up the practice in three phases. 0 to 3 months, 3-6 months and 6- 9 months. You have to walk barefoot for 45 minutes for the rest of your life. Food makes us commit the maximum pain to others and exploit others. The practice entails looking at the rising or setting sun one time per day only during the safe hours. No harm will come to your eyes during the morning and evening safe hours.

 

The safe hours are anytime within 1-hour window after sunrise or anytime within the 1-hr window before sunset. It is scientifically proven beyond a reasonable doubt that during these times, one is free from UV and IR rays exposure, which is harmful to your eyes.

 

To determine the timings of sunrise or sunset, you can check the local newspaper, which also lists the UV Index as 0 during these times. Both times are good for practice - it depends on individual's convenience. Sun gazing also has the added advantage of getting vitamin A and D during the 1-hour safe period window.

 

Vitamin A is necessary for the health of the eye, the only vitamin that the eye requires. If you sungaze, the spectacles and the associated power in the eye will go away and this will provide better eyesight without glasses.

 For those who cannot initially sungaze during the safe periods, sunbathing is an effective method for receiving the sun energy at a slower pace until one is able to sungaze. Best times to take sunbath is when the UV index is lower 2 or below.

 

This usually occurs within the 2-hour window after sunrise or before sunset. Sun bathing during the day is to be avoided, except for during the winter months, when the UV index usually remains at 2 all throughout which is safe for sunbathing. Check your local newspaper to see the published results for UV Index to be sure.

 

Also do not use sunscreen. When body gets heated up you perspire and sweat is a waste product and needs to go out of the body.

 

When you are painted or coated with lotions and creams - they get degenerated and the chemicals enter your body. It is our malpractice - our wrong use - why we blame the sun for skin cancers.


Throwing in 'walking barefoot for 45 minutes everyday for the rest of your life' for good measure. Not sure what it has to do with sun gazing but probably to do with the pseudoscience of 'grounding'. If your kitchen tap is metal, just touch it and the job is done.

Saying that the sun is FREE from UV rays up to 1 hour after sunrise and 1 hour before sunset. Really NO UV??? He even suggests there are no IR rays either!!!

So no heat and no UV. And if IR rays are damaging to our eyes, what about the visible light spectrum??

Suggesting that you can create Vitamin A for your eyes by looking at the sun????

He suggests that sun screen prevents you from sweating.

There's a lot more but it's just spouting ignorance. It really is a shame that people actually fall for this and that people irresponsibly use a platform like the internet to perpetuate dangerous and ignorant advice on subjects they know nothing about. Poor impressionable youths like 'arealhumanbeing' read it, sounds rebellious and badass and follow it because some stranger they never met, said it.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #502 on: April 20, 2017, 05:40:33 PM »
Is the the claim also that proper sun gazing can help when a person already wears glasses and their correction is getting worse in one eye or both?

I haven't seen this discussed specifically, but I could have missed it...

Absolutely. My vision has never been stronger.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #503 on: April 20, 2017, 05:49:14 PM »
Is the the claim also that proper sun gazing can help when a person already wears glasses and their correction is getting worse in one eye or both?

I haven't seen this discussed specifically, but I could have missed it...

Absolutely. My vision has never been stronger.

People who take placebo pills claim they have never felt better. So what's your point? You may be looking at it when the UV index is low and for a short time, but UV damage is cumulative. The power of your mind telling you that its great may overcome the slow but accumulating damage that is happening.

Also consider, skin cancer doesn't happen immediately after a specific sun exposure. It can take years before it happens. Your eyes are far less resistant so while you may think you are doing good for your eyes (and for arguments sake, lets say there was a minor benefit), does the risk of cancer outweigh this miniscule benefit?

Also ask yourself can this benefit be attained by any other means.

Reduce the hazards, reduce the risk.

I still have not received any idea or input from you in what part of sun gazing does the benefit come from. Is it the UV or IR?

Or even, could it be that many of the kind of people who do gaze at the sun, also mediate, are more relaxed in general and look after their well being in terms of diet. Looking at the sun is just some weird thing they do, but if they didn't do it, they would still feel the same thanks in part to other aspects of their lifestyle.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #504 on: April 20, 2017, 05:54:37 PM »
Is the the claim also that proper sun gazing can help when a person already wears glasses and their correction is getting worse in one eye or both?

I haven't seen this discussed specifically, but I could have missed it...

Absolutely. My vision has never been stronger.

People who take placebo pills claim they have never felt better. So what's your point? You may be looking at it when the UV index is low and for a short time, but UV damage is cumulative. The power of your mind telling you that its great may overcome the slow but accumulating damage that is happening.

Also consider, skin cancer doesn't happen immediately after a specific sun exposure. It can take years before it happens. Your eyes are far less resistant so while you may think you are doing good for your eyes (and for arguments sake, lets say there was a minor benefit), does the risk of cancer outweigh this miniscule benefit?

Also ask yourself can this benefit be attained by any other means.

Reduce the hazards, reduce the risk.

I still have not received any idea or input from you in what part of sun gazing does the benefit come from. Is it the UV or IR?

Or even, could it be that many of the kind of people who do gaze at the sun, also mediate, are more relaxed in general and look after their well being in terms of diet. Looking at the sun is just some weird thing they do, but if they didn't do it, they would still feel the same thanks in part to other aspects of their lifestyle.

People who take placebo pills dont show signs of improved vision at the optometrist.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #505 on: April 20, 2017, 06:07:18 PM »
I never looked at the sun and growing up and I got ever increasing scores at the optometrist. It happens. Vision can improve or deteriorate.

Still, tell me.... Do you think it is the UV doing the positive effects or the IR?

What else do you do in your lifestyle that could contribute to good health and wellbeing which probably has a more positive impact on the health and state of your eyes than looking at the sun would.
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #506 on: April 22, 2017, 07:06:30 AM »
I never looked at the sun and growing up and I got ever increasing scores at the optometrist. It happens. Vision can improve or deteriorate.

Still, tell me.... Do you think it is the UV doing the positive effects or the IR?

What else do you do in your lifestyle that could contribute to good health and wellbeing which probably has a more positive impact on the health and state of your eyes than looking at the sun would.

Before I started sun gazing, I stopped drinking fluoridated water.

Which sadly also meant not eating out at restaurants, for they cook their beans, make their rice and simmer their soups in fluoridated water.

Maybe my cleared thoughts from a poison free diet led me to understand how beneficial sun gazing is.

The body cannot survive without the mind. And the mind cannot survive without the body.

They must both be healthy for a healthy human being.

Watch what you eat, watch what you do!

Sun gazing will benefit you nothing if you spend your entire day eating cake and watching movies in bed, well maybe a little, you might enjoy that cake and the movies more...

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #507 on: April 22, 2017, 10:15:27 PM »
I have ditched fluoridated water myself, with a whole house water filter followed by an undersink reverse osmosis filter which then gets remineralised with calcium and magnesium. Had it like that for a few years now. I especially thought about it when I got children. When my son was just born, I questioned the logic why a baby with no teeth, needs sodium fluoride. What you get in nature is calcium fluoride but we get our water supply deliberately contaminated with toxic waste that needs to get rid of.

I get that it may help teeth albeit marginally. Nothing will help teeth - fluoridated water or not in the junk food lifestyle where people eat ridiculous amounts of sugar and washed down with acidic soda.

I still don't buy the sun gazing argument. You have yet to tell me the mechanism of how it works. Are you not concerned you are following a controversial practice and have no idea how its supposed to do what it does?
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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #508 on: April 24, 2017, 04:14:29 PM »
Reverse osmosis is a waste of energy, distilling water removes fluoride far better and home distillers are easy to make and more readily available to buy.

You can not believe that sungazing provides benefits all you want, but the fact is it does.

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Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« Reply #509 on: April 24, 2017, 08:53:36 PM »
You still have not given the mechanism behind how it works
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