All those who claim that faking the Moon "landings" in 1969-1972 was impossible but making the Moon landings in 1969-1972 possible, are essentially saying that warpdrives and Death Stars must be real.
[Non sequitur meme]
Indeed, the idea that staging moon landings is insanely impossible but making moon landings is perfectly possible is a non sequitur.
1969 - computer - size of a house
Also rare, expensive, difficult to use, and, compared to what many people routinely carry in their pocket today, not powerful at all.[/quote]
Indeed. So the idea that a small flimsy LM could house that is ridiculous.
This is strong evidence against the "CGI" some claim was used to fake the moon landings, but was still more than adequate to do the calculations necessary for a moon landing.
CGI didn't exist in 1969-1972. Front screen projection did. And that's what they used obviously. Your non sequitur is getting boring.
Who cares if an IBM System/360 was the size of a house if you had a large building to keep it in?
People who think some steps further than just accepting a lie.
1969 - filmstudios - everywhere available
No. They were rare, expensive, and limited in capabilities compared to modern CGI, which wasn't available at the time.
Film studios were rare, expensive and limited in capabilities.
Going on a journey into the craziness of space was not rare, not expensive and not limited.You see, your non sequitur is dooming your position, not mine.
1969 - no experience having been 380,000 kms from home
1968 - Apollo 8. 381,681 km from home on the evening of 24 Dec. Distance to moon (from central North America), 379,800 km + 1781 km radius of moon + 100 km orbital height.
Apollo 8 did not leave System Earth, just as Apollo 11-17 didn't.
And even taking that as true; 1 journey to the Moon (without landing) was enough to perform 7 successful (6 with landing) journeys afterwards. Sure, then it wasn't difficult. Controlling the LEM in the well-known desert of the US was too hard for Clumsy Neil, but two weeks later a perfect landing on a celestial body, never done before was no problem. Your non sequiturs are dropping like micrometeorites.
1969 - Kubrick had experience staging space films
2001: A Space Odyssey was a fun science-fiction film for the time. No one would confuse it for a documentary, however. The moon scenes made good visuals for a popular film, but had too many technical details wrong to pass muster as remotely close to realistic due to the limitations of special effects in films and simulation of conditions on the moon in a film studio on earth.
Of course, the deal was to make 2001 not too perfect, so the film stage hoax wouldn't be too obvious. The technical details of the "Moon landings" were even greater, pointed out by many reviewers, from Kaysing to McGowan, Sibrel and White (2 of them). And back.
The list is endless and every year that passes since those Nixon Nonlandings the whole scam becomes more laughable.
The "moon-landing hoax" arguments seem to have stalled a couple of decades ago after being thoroughly debunked. Ignorance is apparently endless, however, since some still claim to believe them.
The problem of believers is, that they think they "debunk" something just by quoting the same liars who staged the whole thang.
Ignorance indeed is apparently endless, good you acknowledge your failures. That's the first step, now you have to take the big leap.
Jan 13, 2167: Mama, can we go to the Moon for summer holidays?
No son, they did it 6 times between 1969 and 1972 with medieval technology, but now we can't anymore
Sadly, this may come to pass. There seems to be no compelling short-term economic or political reason to put in the money and effort,
There are more motives than just economic and political. Scientific investigation is one of them.
"There seems to be" is just regurgitating the lies of the ones who have proven to lie all the time. Doesn't impress.
or take the risk - and it is expensive, difficult, and risky. All of that is needed to make a manned moon landing possible.
Apparently it wasn't difficult and risky in 1969-1972. So today it would be even less difficult and risky.
The Wright brothers had a difficult and risky task at hand and they made it happen for a few seconds. That's why now you can fly almost anywhere on the planet. The summer holidays on the Moon will not. 44.5 years and counting.
The best chance of it happening again? China may press to attempt manned moon landing(s) for prestige and to hone technical capabilities. If they do so, the US may decide that it's worth it again, too, because there is still a lot to learn, but mostly we won't want to be upstaged by China. We can hope!
You name "prestige" and "still a lot to learn", which are good points, and then mask them again by pouring the sauce of the liars over it.
The Chinese government!
Those commies can be trusted of course. Just like the Soviets could be trusted.