Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency

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In a 97-1 vote, the Senate acted decisively Wednesday to override President Barack Obama's veto of Sept. 11 legislation that would allow families of victims to sue Saudi Arabia for the kingdom's alleged backing of the hijackers. (Sept. 28) AP

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WASHINGTON — The House and Senate Wednesday voted to reject President Obama's veto of legislation allowing lawsuits against foreign sponsors of terrorism in the first successful override of a presidential veto since Obama took office.

The president had vetoed the legislation Friday because he said the bill — known as the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, or JASTA — would infringe on the president’s ability to conduct foreign policy. It was the 12th veto of his presidency.


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Why Obama doesn't want 9/11 families suing Saudi Arabia

But after an intense, lengthy push by 9/11 survivors and families of victims who want to sue Saudi Arabia based on claims the country played a role in the 2001 terror attack, even Obama’s Democratic allies on Capitol Hill voted to override his veto.

The House voted 348-77, well above the two-thirds majority needed. The final vote tally in the Senate was 97-1. Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-.Nev., cast the sole vote against override.

"In our polarized politics of today, this is pretty much close to a miraculous occurrence," said  Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. Democrats and Republicans in both chambers have agreed, he said, that the bill "gives the victims of the terrorist attack on our own soil an opportunity to seek the justice they deserve.".

The top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said he shared some of Obama's concerns but said the victims' rights outweighed them.

"We cannot in good conscience close the courthouse door to those families who have suffered unimaginable losses," Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., said.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest decried the override as the "single most embarrassing thing the United States Senate has done possibly since 1983."

"Ultimately these senators are going to have to answer their own conscience and their constituents as they account for their actions today," he said, adding that Reid showed "courage" in opposing it.

The measure was approved in the House by voice vote earlier this month and sailed through the Senate by unanimous consent in May. In recent weeks, however, there had been some pushback against the bill, which would create an exception to sovereign immunity, the doctrine that holds one country can’t be sued in another country’s courts.

Former ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton and former U.S. Attorney Michael Mukasey, both of whom served under President George W. Bush, warned in a Wall Street Journal op-ed earlier this month that the legislation could open Americans to such suits abroad.

“An errant drone strike that kills non-combatants in Afghanistan could easily trigger lawsuits demanding that U.S. military or intelligence personnel be hauled into foreign courts,” they wrote.

Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash., ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee, and committee Chairman Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, reached out to colleagues in recent days asking them to reconsider support for the bill. Thornberry sent them a letter saying that in addition to putting Americans abroad in legal jeopardy, the move undermines the United States’ reliability as an ally.

“We must work with other nations, even imperfect ones,” he wrote. “Requiring their government officials to participate in and give testimony in lawsuits — even when nothing has been proven — will create tensions and lead to less cooperation. I believe the net result will harm our security.


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House approves bill letting 9/11 families sue Saudis

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As recently as Tuesday, some lawmakers had said they may have been wavering in their support. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a co-sponsor of the legislation, told USA TODAY he was still “thinking about it.”

“I’m not sure that I want to — I just have to think it through, that’s all,” he said at the time.

Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said he had “concerns about what this bill’s going to mean to America.”

“This isn’t to me about Saudi Arabia, it’s the blowback to us because we’re the most involved in the world,” Corker said. “What you really do is you end up exporting your foreign policy to trial lawyers.”

Still, he conceded the veto would be “handily overridden” and said he hoped to revisit the issue when Congress returns from recess after the November elections.

Both Corker and Hatch voted to override Obama's veto.

Terry Strada, national chairwoman for 9/11 Families & Survivors United for Justice Against Terrorism, had called the override votes a “tremendous test of our democracy.”

“I mean, do we have a democracy or does Saudi Arabia own us?” she said. Her group sent a letter to Congress on Tuesday urging lawmakers to override "the President's unjustifiable veto."

Strada, whose husband was a Cantor Fitzgerald bond trader who died when the World Trade Center collapsed on 9/11, drove to Washington on Tuesday from her home in New Jersey to continue lobbying for the override vote.

In his unusual three-page veto message to Congress last week, Obama said he has "deep sympathy" for the families of victims of terrorism.

"I recognize that there is nothing that could ever erase the grief the 9/11 families have endured," Obama wrote. "Enacting JASTA into law, however, would neither protect Americans from terrorist attacks nor improve the effectiveness of our response to such attacks."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/09/28/senate-poised-override-obama-veto-911-bill-allowing-saudi-suits/91184976/

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Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 12:15:44 AM »
I don't get it. Who's the "dirty killer"? Obama, Hatch, Strada, Corker, Rosie O'Donnell?

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Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 04:23:10 AM »
Intikam is retarded. Don't waste your time with his bullshit.
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Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016, 05:25:54 AM »
I don't get it. Who's the "dirty killer"? Obama, Hatch, Strada, Corker, Rosie O'Donnell?

Who is created and supporting terrorist groups in Syria and Iraq like ISIS, PYD, al qaida (al nusra), ahraru something, is a dirty killer. Who is supporting the dictators as Erdoghan (will be King Erdoghan at near next), "King Hamad", "King Salman",  " King Abdullah", and others and trying to down to democratic leaders as "Beshar Esad" (not King Esad), is a dirty killer.

he is trying to convert Syria to "democratic regime" also have an democratic system by a few country like Saudi Arabia and Qatar already are kingdoms and needs to be converted to democracy and a country as Turkey is already had a democratic system and converted by the hand of Obama to a dictatorship! he and his advisors are nothing but idiots. They are doing something oppositely they said by mentality!

He killed out our democratic - laic republic in Turkey and by his support converted a dictatorship. God damn him. He seems like a head cutter and heart-eater killer / satan like ISIS terrorists in my opinion. He and who conducts the US politics like consultants and think tanks, God damn them all.
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Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016, 07:51:46 AM »
You have been watching entirely too much fox news
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You are all fall in a trap. The congress just performed to their master's order. It's a step to create a financial crash. Only the plot hadn't been carried out. Wait for next time. They still reserve the method of "Saudi dumping US treasury" as justification for a financial collapse.

925. US avoided a D-DAY (10/11/2016)

My wife and my daughter had a trip to North Europe from 9/23 to 10/2. I think it was arranged by the feds(FBI and DEA). To my experience, it used to be arranged with murder plot. (Both on me and my relatives) Also if the murder plot had been successful, there would be big events taking place to distract public's attention from a small killing case in California. On 6/11/2001, they used the execution of McVeigh as distraction.

So when on 9/25 there was a warning of D-day (9/30) - two days before my wife's returning, I naturally thought of that could be the distraction of the plot. I wrote about it in #923 on 9/25.

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Friday, September 30th, 2016:

D-DAY
FOR THE U.S DOLLAR
On Friday, September 30th...
a new kind of "world money" goes live.

The D-DAY big financial collapse didn't happen because the Feds failed to murder me at that time. I still would say my perspective is very correct.

Two news prove it.

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Financial Hell might break loose tomorrow. Congress OVER-RIDES Obama Veto of Saudi Arabia Lawsuit Bill! Saudis may retaliate by pulling Billions out of Markets and Billions more out of Banks.

Post by Newsroom  - Sep 28, 2016

Saudi Arabia made clear that if this Bill was passed, it would withdraw what they claimed would be seven-hundred and fifty BILLION dollars of assets that the Kingdom has in the United States, so as to protect those assets from being seized under the lawsuit provisions.

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/business/2126

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U.S. Congress passes funding bill; averts government shutdown

Reuters   September 28, 2016


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Congress on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved and sent to President Barack Obama legislation preventing government shutdowns at the end of this week by temporarily funding federal agencies through Dec. 9.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-congress-passes-funding-bill-averts-government-shutdown-020955146--business.html

Watch the date of these two news. If the Congress had't passed the funding bill and Saudi dumped US treasury. Then the D-DAY would have become true.



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Sep 28, 2016 - In a vote of 97-1 (the only rebel being Minority Leader Harry Reid), the Senate voted to override President Obama's veto of the Justice Against ...

Senate and Congress passed the override to Obama's veto on same day. They were in hurry to enable their master to create a 9/30 D-DAY.

Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2016, 03:25:03 PM »
I wrote #923 when I saw 9/11 D-DAY warn on 9/25.


923. Killing plot goes on (9/25/2016)

My wife and my daughter are having a trip in North European from 9/23 to 10/2. I think it was arranged by the Feds.(FBI and DEA) It's easy for them to create accident in a trip.

The roofing contract was finished on Aug. 2nd. The ground vibration feeling was hardly felt or weakened for a little while but recovered strongly recently. I allege the Feds is still going to create a roof falling death - at the time when my wife is absent.

Then who will be that victim falling from the roof? The Westshore company said within one month after the work finished, a city inspector will come to examine the job. That inspector would be a sacrifice, I think. This is how the Feds to frame their target in a death incident.   

Something big will happen from 9/23 to 10/2. In internet, there's a pop-up warning:

Friday, September 30th, 2016:

D-DAY
FOR THE U.S DOLLAR
On Friday, September 30th...
a new kind of "world money" goes live.

http://katsung.forumotion.com/t8-acoustic-weapon-killing