GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?

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jasonb

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GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« on: November 03, 2016, 08:29:41 AM »
I want to know why we can always get a GPS signal no matter were we are on the planet? See if it is like a cell phone tower would we not have issues like we do with the radios on a cell tower? The flat earth model says there cannot be a satellite and that is the tech behind how GPS works.  Please explain why and how GPS works around the world.

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 08:36:09 AM »
I guess the search button is still broke.

We have a few threads going on this already.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=68271.0
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jasonb

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 08:47:09 AM »
Thank you.
How come there is so much sarchasm from people here. I was reading through the post and people are just down right rude to people. =(
Thanks again,

-Jason

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Crouton

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 09:00:05 AM »
Thank you.
How come there is so much sarchasm from people here. I was reading through the post and people are just down right rude to people. =(
Thanks again,

-Jason

The nature of this forum is inherently combative.  Many rounders come to this forum outraged at the notion of a flat Earth but without the scientific and logical tools to argue their case.  Many flatties hear the same thing over and over again that eventually they stop being polite at times.  Also a few flatties are just masquerading because it's a fun way to troll people. 

Try not too take it too seriously and just have fun.

Welcome btw.
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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 09:05:00 AM »
Thank you.
How come there is so much sarchasm from people here. I was reading through the post and people are just down right rude to people. =(
Thanks again,

-Jason
I think it's safe to say most people are here for the entertainment, and the occasional math/science/physics/astronomy. There are some very intelligent people here, along with a variety of very rude and/or angry people. Personally, I have learned more than I ever thought I would that solidify the argument the earth is round.
And then there's Intikam...

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jasonb

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 09:09:53 AM »
Thanks guys. So not trying to hijack my own thread, But here goes. I started watching YouTube about the High Jump mission and ended up on Flat earth Videos. honestly hadn't heard about this except for the part in History where this was an early belief.  So I have spent literally 20 hours watching videos on the subject.  I did so with an open mid and as I was watching I was hit with questions. Not to disprove it honestly but to make sense of it all. So I figured I've watched enough on the Youtube lets go find some answers where people can interact with me. So I google Flat earth Form and,well here I am.

Thanks again for the welcome,

-Jason

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 09:42:51 AM »
Welcome to the forum, Jason. 

Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 11:21:59 AM »
I want to know why we can always get a GPS signal no matter were we are on the planet?
The premise of your question is false. 
You can NOT get a GPS signal no matter where you are on the planet.

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 11:35:21 AM »
Last time I drove across Tennessee, I could not get a GPS lock for most of the state.  I had a navigator and both myself and my son had cellphones, yet none of the three devices could tell us where we were.  Why do the "satelites" pick and choose where they will work? 

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 05:04:07 PM »
I want to know why we can always get a GPS signal no matter were we are on the planet?
The premise of your question is false. 
You can NOT get a GPS signal no matter where you are on the planet.

So where doesn't it work?  Evidence please.


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jasonb

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2016, 05:40:20 PM »
I want to know why we can always get a GPS signal no matter were we are on the planet?
The premise of your question is false. 
You can NOT get a GPS signal no matter where you are on the planet.

So where doesn't it work?  Evidence please.

I'm saying GPS no matter were you are you can get sat signals and start locking in satellites, baring you are not obstructed by structure weather man made or natural.

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frenat

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2016, 05:42:00 PM »
I want to know why we can always get a GPS signal no matter were we are on the planet?
The premise of your question is false. 
You can NOT get a GPS signal no matter where you are on the planet.

So where doesn't it work?  Evidence please.

I'm saying GPS no matter were you are you can get sat signals and start locking in satellites, baring you are not obstructed by structure weather man made or natural.
I know.  I was replying to Charming Anarchist

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2016, 10:56:15 PM »
Last time I drove across Tennessee, I could not get a GPS lock for most of the state.  I had a navigator and both myself and my son had cellphones, yet none of the three devices could tell us where we were.  Why do the "satelites" pick and choose where they will work?
No, they probably pick and choose who they work for:P These new "Smartelites" sense whether or not the user believes in satellites  :P.

But, more seriously I can't explain your problems.

I can say that I have various GPS units, mainly Garmin, starting with a Garmin etrex VISTA (in 2002) to my current Garmin nuvi 3790 - bit long-in-the-tooth now.

I have travelled over a large part of inland Australia, in many cases hundreds of miles from any mobile phone services. The GPS units worked everywhere.

I also had a satellite phone but did not use it much (cost $2.00/min a lot then), but the few times we did need it we certainly had service, except once!
We were right at the tip of Cape York (yes GPS worked fine but![1]) and we thought we'd be smart and took the bulky Sat phone, so we could call our folk and say we were calling from the top end of Australia!

That fell flat! THE Sat phone took 20 minutes to find a satellite and others in the group had ordinary CDMA phones and had signal from Bamaga! Checking later we found that the northern part of Cape York was outside the footprint of the Globalstar satellite we were using in 2003, so yes, I am sure that the the satellite phone did not get its signal from those phone towers!

[1] The but is that the GPS coordinates dud not agree with the coordinates on the marker post at the tip of Cape York. They were using the previous WGS84 datum, but the GPS was. Traps for new GPS users, though modern maps would use the modern mapping reference.

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Re: GPS how does this work in a flat earth model?
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2016, 09:40:54 PM »
On a FE model, with no satellites in space, a GPS set up would require a coordinated network of ground-based radio transmitters, not much more distant than 20 miles apart depending on altitude.  This would be prohibitively expensive in most of the world, and in vast parts of North America - and impossible in all the oceans.  That GPS receivers work in mid-ocean is PROOF that the satellites are working.